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mnaser | rm_work but im just thinking that if someone hit /v1 anyways when we expose it, it'll be an issue | 00:22 |
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mnaser | so certainly some work would have to be done to make sure no one can access v1, except lbaas | 00:23 |
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rm_work | mnaser: right, you can expose the API via a LB or something | 00:31 |
rm_work | you can also run them separately | 00:32 |
rm_work | so, one box runs the API with v1 enabled, and is ACL'd to specifically the neutron-lbaas boxes | 00:32 |
rm_work | and a different box/VM runs the api with only v2 enabled | 00:32 |
mnaser | rm_work yeah that's a way around it | 00:32 |
mnaser | we run stuff in nspawn containers so tha tshould be easy to do | 00:33 |
rm_work | yep | 00:33 |
mnaser | we run master octavia alongside newton and its working nicely now, just have some patches to magnum and it'll be working really nicely | 00:33 |
johnsom | Good to hear | 00:34 |
rm_work | we're running master octavia alongside liberty :P | 00:35 |
rm_work | we should actually maybe put a recommendation somewhere for that | 00:36 |
rm_work | like ... we recommend you ignore the version of the cloud you're running, and always run the newest release of octavia | 00:36 |
johnsom | A full install guide is on my "wish I had time to do that now" list | 00:36 |
rm_work | johnsom: my patch IS going to need a recheck anyway, I kinda want to put in the comment you asked for | 00:38 |
johnsom | Ok | 00:38 |
rm_work | johnsom: do you know if there's a bug to link from haproxy/ubuntu? | 00:38 |
rm_work | I think you said you'd seen one | 00:38 |
johnsom | It was in the release notes | 00:38 |
rm_work | ugh k | 00:40 |
rm_work | well whatever i'll just comment | 00:40 |
johnsom | I'm looking to see if I can find the bug | 00:40 |
johnsom | Nah, I'm not going to dig | 00:42 |
rm_work | k | 00:43 |
rm_work | just needs the +2 again then | 00:43 |
openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: Properly handle more states from HAProxy health messages https://review.openstack.org/487671 | 00:43 |
johnsom | Done | 00:44 |
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rm_work | rechecking some others >_> | 00:47 |
rm_work | ugh yeah that's gonna take a while | 00:58 |
rm_work | test nodes dropped significantly and queue spiked to 8k | 00:58 |
rm_work | funtimes | 00:58 |
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rm_work | down to about 4k... | 01:58 |
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openstackgerrit | yanpuqing proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Add "delay" value determination for health monitor https://review.openstack.org/489584 | 03:08 |
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rm_work | why are the gates soooo broken T_T | 04:49 |
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openstackgerrit | yanpuqing proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Add "delay" value determination for health monitor https://review.openstack.org/489584 | 06:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia master: Properly handle more states from HAProxy health messages https://review.openstack.org/487671 | 07:30 |
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rm_work | these failures on the multinode are perplexing | 08:23 |
nmagnezi | rm_work, kinda like lottery as a service | 08:24 |
rm_work | ah this one is different | 08:24 |
nmagnezi | rm_work, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487565 one minor comment here | 08:24 |
rm_work | is it just me or is the error message here a little ... weird | 08:25 |
rm_work | http://logs.openstack.org/78/489678/2/check/gate-octavia-v1-dsvm-py3x-scenario-multinode/b2a843b/logs/screen-o-cw.txt.gz#_Aug_02_06_05_53_773124 | 08:25 |
rm_work | "Max retries exceeded" | 08:25 |
rm_work | like ... 40 times? uhh | 08:25 |
rm_work | someone doesn't know what "max" means | 08:26 |
nmagnezi | O_o | 08:27 |
openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/python-octaviaclient master: Remove reqs from test-req that exist in req https://review.openstack.org/487565 | 08:27 |
rm_work | (that was not actually the problem) | 08:28 |
nmagnezi | rm_work, possibly this has something to do with how we use requests https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/b3506fa3ebdd48806d80e42f15c612412412a160/octavia/amphorae/drivers/haproxy/rest_api_driver.py#L271 | 08:32 |
rm_work | hmmm | 08:32 |
rm_work | looks like nova barfed on a create of one of the test members (not even an amp) >_> | 08:33 |
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rm_work | http://logs.openstack.org/78/489678/2/check/gate-octavia-v1-dsvm-py3x-scenario-multinode/b2a843b/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz#_Aug_02_06_00_36_074096 | 08:34 |
nmagnezi | yikes | 08:34 |
rm_work | maybe happens more often on multi-node? | 08:34 |
nmagnezi | that's a question for the infra folks i guess | 08:35 |
rm_work | i guess it really starts at http://logs.openstack.org/78/489678/2/check/gate-octavia-v1-dsvm-py3x-scenario-multinode/b2a843b/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz#_Aug_02_06_00_13_991464 | 08:35 |
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rm_work | multinode is failing on my other patch too >_> | 08:44 |
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rm_work | ugh the issue is different EVERY time | 09:09 |
rm_work | one time it just stopped in the middle of the install and failed | 09:09 |
rm_work | one time it failed building a VM in nova | 09:10 |
rm_work | one time curl died while downloading the base amp image for DIB | 09:10 |
rm_work | one time it just ... lost connection to one of the other nodes in the multinode group | 09:10 |
rm_work | http://logs.openstack.org/15/489015/4/check/gate-octavia-v1-dsvm-scenario-multinode/0171086/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2017-08-02_05_36_25_315 | 09:11 |
nmagnezi | rm_work, maybe file a bug and ask for some advise @ #openstack-infra ? | 09:20 |
rm_work | i think it's just that shit is unstable right now and we're getting hit by a variety of issues... probably just need to let things settle | 09:20 |
rm_work | gonna go to bed and check it out in the morning | 09:22 |
rm_work | ugh, meeting in ~7.5h | 09:22 |
rm_work | hopefully will be there... | 09:23 |
nmagnezi | rm_work, good night :) | 09:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: WIP: Floating IP Network Driver (spans L3s) https://review.openstack.org/435612 | 09:30 |
rm_work | night :P | 09:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Rajat Sharma proposed openstack/octavia master: Stop using deprecated CORS.set_latent() https://review.openstack.org/489169 | 11:16 |
openstackgerrit | Nir Magnezi proposed openstack/octavia master: Stop using deprecated CORS.set_latent() https://review.openstack.org/489169 | 11:39 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia master: Barbicanclient is refactoring, this fixes one of our bad tests https://review.openstack.org/489678 | 11:55 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-octaviaclient master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/488171 | 12:27 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: We have disable infracloud-vanilla due to the compute host running mirror.regionone.infracloud-vanilla.o.o being offline. Please recheck your failed jobs to schedule them to another cloud. | 13:57 | |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-octaviaclient master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/488171 | 15:25 |
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johnsom | Octavia meeting starting soon on #openstack-meeting | 16:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: Correct status for disabled members (honest abe edition) https://review.openstack.org/489015 | 17:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Santhosh Fernandes proposed openstack/octavia master: Adding exabgp-speaker element to amphora image https://review.openstack.org/490164 | 19:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Santhosh Fernandes proposed openstack/octavia master: [WIP] Adding exabgp-speaker element to amphora image https://review.openstack.org/490164 | 20:11 |
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rm_work | yes another different multinode failure: http://logs.openstack.org/54/485254/4/gate/gate-octavia-v1-dsvm-py3x-scenario-multinode/052d1e0/logs/screen-o-cw.txt.gz#_Aug_02_19_13_24_674444 | 20:23 |
rm_work | multinode has been failing like 3/4 of the time for the past day | 20:23 |
rm_work | but it's always different | 20:23 |
johnsom | We have been seeing that 404 for a while. Some of the other recent failures I have seen are libvirt/qemu crashing again | 20:24 |
johnsom | I have that 404 on my list to investigate. On the surface it looks like the interface is never added by the kernel. I mostly see it on non-multinode jobs though. | 20:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Santhosh Fernandes proposed openstack/octavia master: [WIP] Adding exabgp-speaker element to amphora image https://review.openstack.org/490164 | 20:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: WIP: Floating IP Network Driver (spans L3s) https://review.openstack.org/435612 | 21:03 |
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openstackgerrit | German Eichberger proposed openstack/octavia master: Ignore 404 amphora error when deleting resources https://review.openstack.org/487232 | 21:35 |
xgerman_ | most of the people doing work are not known well in the org | 21:38 |
xgerman_ | I think they just made him a tetconic core… | 21:38 |
johnsom | xgerman_ Wrong channel | 21:38 |
mnaser | is there a way to get the list of IPs that a LB can have? | 21:42 |
mnaser | it seems that when using octavia in active_standby, the traffic obviously doesnt come from the vip | 21:43 |
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mnaser | k8s by default has some firewalling so only allow the loadbalancer ip | 21:43 |
mnaser | so.. it blocks traffic | 21:43 |
johnsom | Yeah, the source should come from the base port IP. It's going to be dhcp'd or assigned by neutron when the LB is created from the subnet/network specified when the LB is created. | 21:44 |
johnsom | For testing/manual, when you nova list as the octavia user or admin, the base port IP is listed | 21:45 |
mnaser | johnsom is there a way to get that somehow exposed or automated | 21:46 |
mnaser | cause i dont think a user would be able to see it, would they? | 21:47 |
johnsom | Well, the thing to note is if that amp fails over, that IP can change | 21:47 |
johnsom | No, that detail is hidden from an end user | 21:47 |
mnaser | johnsom bummer. i have to try and figure out how to make this work, k8s filters traffic from the vips (i guess it assumes traffic will only come from that ip) | 21:48 |
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johnsom | You could make a patch that causes the traffic to come from the VIP IP. | 21:48 |
johnsom | Your case is you are relying on the VIP network default route right? No member subnets? | 21:49 |
mnaser | johnsom yes, its all in the same l2 domain | 21:49 |
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johnsom | Yeah, because member subnet source IPs are also allocated by neutron, so would be a problem too | 21:50 |
mnaser | if i can send traffic with the source being the vip, that's good enough for me | 21:50 |
mnaser | technically i should be able to because i assume octavia creates allowed_address_pairs | 21:50 |
johnsom | Yeah, give me a minute to find the setting that will need to go into the haproxy config | 21:51 |
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johnsom | http://cbonte.github.io/haproxy-dconv/1.6/configuration.html#5.2-source | 21:53 |
johnsom | That will need to be added to the jinja template, then code added to set it to be the vip IP | 21:53 |
mnaser | oooo nice | 21:53 |
johnsom | If you are going to upstream that, we need to think about how to a) make it an operator option, b) only do it for members that have the same subnet as the VIP. | 21:54 |
rm_work | yeah, the jinja templates are configurable without *patching* too, I think right? | 21:54 |
rm_work | we made it a path in config | 21:54 |
rm_work | IIRC | 21:54 |
rm_work | so it's a deployer choice thing | 21:55 |
mnaser | rm_work they are i believe | 21:55 |
mnaser | haproxy_template | 21:55 |
rm_work | yes | 21:55 |
rm_work | so any deployer (you) can do whatever special sauce they need | 21:55 |
rm_work | this qualifies i think | 21:55 |
mnaser | (im searching through the code) | 21:55 |
johnsom | Yeah, the VIP IP should already be a variable for jinja, so probably no code change needed if you do it local | 21:55 |
rm_work | though MAYBE this could be useful for others | 21:55 |
mnaser | well i would prefer to upstream because i dont want to maintain a custom template that might deviate with new updates | 21:55 |
mnaser | i could implement it as a config option | 21:56 |
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johnsom | https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/octavia/common/jinja/haproxy/templates/macros.j2#L142 | 21:56 |
mnaser | johnsom if we add it for all, wouldnt the traffic return through the default route so it should be okay? | 21:57 |
mnaser | vip: 10.0.0.1/24, vms: 10.1.0.0/24, traffic sent to 10.1.0.0 from 10.0.0.1 will go through router (there has to be one in the first place if they dont share l2) | 21:58 |
mnaser | vm in 10.1.0.0/24 doesnt have direct route, falls back to default (the router) and then router sends to vip | 21:58 |
johnsom | That setting will force the backend connection, for that member, to have a source IP of the VIP IP. For most deployments, that is bad. | 21:58 |
mnaser | i guess i'm not seeing the other use cases, in k8s the load balancers sits entirely in the same subnet/network | 21:59 |
mnaser | and relies on floating ips to get public ip | 21:59 |
mnaser | but im starting to see where you're getting at | 21:59 |
mnaser | public ip for vip, members in a private network, bad things | 21:59 |
johnsom | I.e. member subnet is 10.1.0.0/24 and vip is 10.2.0.0/24, a source IP of 10.2.0.1 on subnet 10.1.0.0/24 will get dropped/ignored | 22:00 |
johnsom | Yep, you got it | 22:00 |
mnaser | i could do the source for same l2 only | 22:00 |
openstackgerrit | German Eichberger proposed openstack/octavia master: ACTIVE-ACTIVE Topology: Initial Distributor Driver Mixin https://review.openstack.org/313006 | 22:01 |
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xgerman_ | you can also change K8 to accept a netmask | 22:07 |
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mnaser | xgerman_ LoadBalancerSourceRanges are specified in the spec of the service and make poor user experience | 22:08 |
mnaser | for example using something like helm.. you'd have the whole automation gone | 22:09 |
xgerman_ | I don’t follow but I also never have used helm — my understanding is K8 creates LB to forward traffic to their nodes… so if anything it should be an operator setting in K8 | 22:12 |
xgerman_ | another thing I have heard about is that people wanted to restrict which traffic can enter the VIP… | 22:12 |
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mnaser | xgerman_ im going to do a bit more reading and check.. kubernetes creates a bunch of complicated iptables rules so let me rule them out | 22:14 |
xgerman_ | yeah, they use iptable rules so all those service ports are proxied around | 22:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia master: Fix haproxy_check_script for delete listener https://review.openstack.org/485254 | 22:32 |
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