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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lbaas master: remove unused plugin.get_plugin_name() https://review.openstack.org/557665 | 00:43 |
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| Eugene_ | Can anyone explain, why subnet_id is mandatory on pool's member creation? | 01:03 |
| johnsom | Yes, members can have overlapping IP space or be reachable via a route (not a member) on that subnet | 01:04 |
| Eugene_ | some SDNs like contrail aren't interesting in subnet_id, not saving it with the member and then, don't return it when queried | 01:04 |
| Eugene_ | that in turn is causing problems for automation solutions | 01:04 |
| Eugene_ | johnsom: so, how subnet_id helps for that case? | 01:05 |
| Eugene_ | *aren't interested | 01:05 |
| johnsom | In the contrail case? I'm not sure I follow what is going on with contrail | 01:05 |
| Eugene_ | i mean if you need member which is not on the subnet of the vip, how having subnet_id is helping? | 01:06 |
| johnsom | Or are you asking how subnet IDs solve my examples? | 01:06 |
| Eugene_ | basically i'm trying to understand, if we can make it not mandatory | 01:06 |
| johnsom | Oh, members are almost always not on the vip subnet. We hot plug the member subnets into the network namespace as the members are added | 01:07 |
| Eugene_ | don't you need cidr, rather than the subnet_id? | 01:08 |
| johnsom | No, we need to know what neutron subnet they are a member of so we can plug a port for that subnet. | 01:09 |
| Eugene_ | i see | 01:09 |
| johnsom | I think you are assuming a one-armed load balancer where there is only one network port. That is not how most load balancers are deployed. Typically the vip is on a routable subnet or a frontend network with a floating IP mapped. The members then are on one or more tenant networks. each of which may have one or more subnets | 01:10 |
| johnsom | rm_work cross your fingers, I'm about to launch tempest with the plugins | 01:11 |
| rm_work | lol | 01:11 |
| rm_work | errr | 01:12 |
| rm_work | johnsom / Eugene_: subnet_id is *not* mandatory on pool members | 01:12 |
| rm_work | so i'm not sure what this discussion is anyway? | 01:12 |
| rm_work | https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/octavia/api/v2/types/member.py#L78 | 01:12 |
| rm_work | ^^ not mandatory | 01:12 |
| johnsom | Ha, you are right. I thought it was for some reason. I know we went back and forth on that | 01:13 |
| rm_work | I make members without subnet_id 100% of the time, lol | 01:13 |
| Eugene_ | that's octavia. i was referring to neutron lbaas api v2 | 01:13 |
| rm_work | ah | 01:13 |
| rm_work | Eugene_: bug | 01:13 |
| johnsom | Oh | 01:13 |
| rm_work | I was going to try to fix it | 01:13 |
| johnsom | deprecated | 01:13 |
| rm_work | and then I remembered I don't care and neutron-lbaas needs to die in a fire | 01:13 |
| Eugene_ | hmm | 01:13 |
| Eugene_ | how do you guys integrate with solutions like AVI then? | 01:13 |
| Eugene_ | (i've lost a track of lbaas for a couple of years :) ) | 01:14 |
| johnsom | AVI doesn't integrate with neutron-lbaas, they just replace it all | 01:14 |
| rm_work | actually i think I did try once, but there was pushback because it's technically an API change | 01:14 |
| rm_work | and I didn't care *enough* | 01:14 |
| rm_work | (I am one of the main people here who doesn't use subnet_id on that stuff, so I remember fighting it for a while) | 01:14 |
| Eugene_ | johnsom: i see. | 01:15 |
| Eugene_ | rm_work: thanks for the info | 01:15 |
| rm_work | If you want to propose a patch to make it non-mandatory ... I am fine with that | 01:15 |
| rm_work | it's just convincing people it's ok to make the change | 01:15 |
| rm_work | you're welcome to patch it internally for sure, i see no reason it wouldn't work fine | 01:15 |
| Eugene_ | rm_work: yeah, on the api it's a couple of lines. plus the client... | 01:15 |
| Eugene_ | plus god knows what else :) | 01:16 |
| rm_work | as you assumed, there is no GOOD reason why it's mandatory | 01:16 |
| johnsom | Yeah, all of which is in deprecated status, so not easy to convince people it's a bug vs. feature change | 01:16 |
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| rm_work | i'd +2 it | 01:16 |
| Eugene_ | so... are you saying going forward it will be octavia only? | 01:17 |
| rm_work | but i'd also +2 a can of gas and a lit match | 01:17 |
| johnsom | Yes | 01:17 |
| rm_work | yes | 01:17 |
| johnsom | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/Deprecation | 01:17 |
| Eugene_ | interesting. i wonder how 3rd party vendors are going to adopt | 01:17 |
| johnsom | neutron client went deprecated a long time ago, neutron-lbaas did in queens | 01:17 |
| Eugene_ | if it's gonna be deprecated, i'd probably go with downstream changes - less hassle | 01:18 |
| johnsom | Well some of them contributed to the specification for the new driver interface | 01:18 |
| Eugene_ | i see | 01:18 |
| Eugene_ | well, thank you guys for the quick response, you helped me a lot | 01:19 |
| johnsom | Sure, NP | 01:19 |
| rm_work | yeah, i'd probably recommend downstream in this ONE case, lol | 01:19 |
| Eugene_ | yeah | 01:19 |
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| johnsom | rm_work I'm getting failures | 01:27 |
| johnsom | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/2Ar8r881/ | 01:28 |
| rm_work | hmmmmmmmm | 01:32 |
| rm_work | is your stuff broken? :P | 01:32 |
| rm_work | that seems like a problem with your octavia... | 01:32 |
| johnsom | hmm, five amp vms. Maybe the parallelism is too high | 01:32 |
| rm_work | locally i'd run in -t | 01:32 |
| rm_work | if you're doing non-noop | 01:32 |
| rm_work | because yeah <_< | 01:32 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I need to run it live | 01:33 |
| johnsom | Yeah, qemu is out to lunch, empty console logs | 01:36 |
| johnsom | I LOVE how nova is "ACTIVE" when there is not a single record in the qemu console.log | 01:37 |
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| johnsom | Oh! | 02:03 |
| johnsom | I think I know what it is.... | 02:03 |
| johnsom | It is that qemu issue with nova machine type mis-match. Sigh | 02:05 |
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| johnsom | restacking so I can run my fixnova script | 02:05 |
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| johnsom | yep, that was the issue | 02:17 |
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| johnsom | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jEiqJevR/ | 02:59 |
| johnsom | Commented on the patches with traceback | 03:03 |
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| xuhaiwei | Hi rm_work, I am still strugglling with installing ocata octavia, I got another error: Could not sign the certificate request: Failed to load CA Certificate /e tc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem | 04:17 |
| xuhaiwei | Do I need to create this pem file before start the service? | 04:17 |
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| johnsom | xuhaiwei Hi. I think your certificate configuration is wrong. Maybe looking at how we do it in devstack will help: https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L296 | 05:48 |
| johnsom | Are you using OSA? | 05:48 |
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| AlexStaf | johnsom, https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002055 FYI - the test fails for us due to that reason ( and not only that more are coming :) ) | 09:19 |
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| AlexStaf | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002057 | 09:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZhaoBo proposed openstack/octavia master: UDP jinja template https://review.openstack.org/525420 | 12:20 |
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| rm_work | ah, maybe forgot to mention i'm off today. just an FYI | 15:53 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 16:04 |
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