Wednesday, 2025-09-17

opendevreviewMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia stable/2025.2: Fix Amphora controller IP list update  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/96142501:55
opendevreviewMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia stable/2025.1: Fix Amphora controller IP list update  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/96142601:56
opendevreviewMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia stable/2024.2: Fix Amphora controller IP list update  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/96142701:56
tobias-urdini might have asked this before, but if a barbican secret is removed but is still referenced in default_tls_container_ref for a listener the LB goes into an error state08:22
tobias-urdinand it's impossible to recover as an user, a cloud operator must fix that since user cannot update a LB when provisioning_status is error so they cannot unset default_tls_container_ref to "fix" the listener/LB08:23
tobias-urdinany workarounds or ideas on a solution that would allow users to solve the issue themselves when it occurs?08:23
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gthiemongetobias-urdin: there's a long term solution which relies on barbican secrets consumers, johnsom worked on it, but AFAIK there were still some issues in barbican when we wanted to merge the feature https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/86430814:22
opendevreviewGregory Thiemonge proposed openstack/octavia master: Add missing update_amphora_config_flow to the flow diagrams  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/96148714:26
tobias-urdingthiemonge: thanks! great to hear that there is a possible solution. i will read up on consumers14:53
johnsomtobias-urdin Yeah, so short summary. Registered consumers work for containers, but not secrets. They "fixed" it in the barbican client so you can't delete a secret with a registered consumer, but you can still delete it via the API. That is the outstanding bug in Barbican. There was push back in fixing the API as it would be a "API behavior change" but to me, it's a fundamental bug in the implementation.15:04
opendevreviewTobias Urdin proposed openstack/octavia master: Add Barbican secrets consumers  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/86430815:11
gthiemongetobias-urdin: another related story https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/201031415:19
gthiemongeI worked on a patch that ignores missing certs but only on delete: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/85938715:20
johnsomI wish I had a tool to search the PTG etherpads, we have raised the topic there multiple times15:21
johnsom#startmeeting Octavia16:00
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johnsomHi everyone16:01
johnsom#topic Announcements 16:02
johnsomWe are post RC116:02
johnsomI think on Octavia we will do an RC2 to get at least one bug fix in16:03
johnsomAny other announcements16:03
johnsom?16:03
gthiemongenothing from me16:03
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review16:04
johnsomI had some vacation time, but mostly I am focusing on reviews and making sure we have the right patches in Flamingo16:05
gthiemongenot directly related to octavia, but I reported a bug against diskimage-builder, after building an image, the permissions of /dev/kvm are incorrect, and it breaks nova, there's a workaround: restore the group (kvm) of /dev/kvm16:06
gthiemongehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/212390616:06
johnsomI did look to see if there were other merged fixes that didn't make it into RC1, I didn't see any, so if there is something we want to push for, please raise it here16:06
gthiemongeIDK if the dib folks will fix it, we may have to add a workaround in the devstack plugin16:06
johnsomYeah, that issue took me a while to figure out what was going wrong. There are multiple groups involved and permissions. At first I thought it was a stack user issue....16:07
johnsomI'm not 100% sure it's DIB though, I thought I hit it on a fresh VM after I ran the updates. But, maybe I am remembering wrong16:08
johnsomIt's definitely a possibility though as I know they map /dev into the chroot16:09
gthiemongeit doesn't affect the CI, because, I think, the structure of the host and the chroot are really close and the GIDs are the same in both contexts16:09
gthiemongebut we cannot guarantee that it will not break the CI in the next months16:10
johnsomYep16:10
gthiemongeI also remove unused code from the controller:16:11
gthiemongehttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/96060116:11
gthiemonge(some leftovers of the spare pool removal)16:11
johnsomYep, looks like it. Is this something you think we need in flamingo or post?16:12
gthiemongenot in flamingo16:12
johnsomAck16:12
johnsomI also noticed we have a backlog in dashboard of patches, I plan to take a look at that list this week as well.16:13
johnsom#topic Open Discussion 16:14
johnsomIf you didn't see it, we had our first user do a mariadb upgrade then upgrade Octavia and run into the character set/collation change issue.16:15
johnsomThe TC has been discussing this a lot recently. I will need to catch up on that conversation.16:15
johnsomOctavia does not have an opinion on the character set, it will use the defaults set in the mariadb config/database config.16:16
johnsomThe issue is mariadb is changing that default, which means the existing tables will have one character set and any future tables would have a different one, causing foreign keys to raise errors.16:17
johnsomI need to research the recommended "migration path" for mariadb. I assume with such a breaking change they have a tool to migrate all of your tables to the "new" defaults. I'll see.16:18
johnsomPlease let me know if you have any patches you think should get into Flamingo today. I plan to cut RC2 this week (tomorrow likely).16:20
gthiemongeack thanks johnsom 16:21
johnsomAny other topics today?16:21
gthiemongeno16:22
johnsomAll right, thank you for joining!16:22
johnsom#endmeeting16:22
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whershberger@gthiemonge Sorry to miss the meeting; if you're around would you be able to drop a +2 on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/957536? I hate to keep bothering you folks but we'd really appreciate getting these backports taken care of. Thanks so much16:31
johnsomwhershberger Please don't worry about bugging us, we are stretched over a number of projects, so letting us know is helpful16:32
johnsomwhershberger are you going to need a release too or just having it on the branch good enough?16:34
whershbergerHaving it on the branch is good enough; we just need the guarantee that it will be in the next point release in order to push it through to the Ubuntu LTS16:36
johnsomOk, thanks. That helps me with timing of a stable branch release. 16:36
whershbergerNp, appreciate your help with this16:36
gthiemongewhershberger: done16:37
gthiemongeyeah don't hesitate to ping us :D16:37
whershbergerThanks much! I'll come around next week if the others haven't made their way in yet :)16:38
opendevreviewVadim Sizov proposed openstack/octavia master: Update amphora-netns.systemd  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/96140618:13
opendevreviewVadim Sizov proposed openstack/octavia master: Update amphora-netns.systemd  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/96140618:45
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opendevreviewMerged openstack/octavia stable/2025.1: Reduce tune.ssl.cachesize for HTTPS terminating listeners  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/95753621:39
opendevreviewMerged openstack/octavia stable/2025.2: Fix Amphora controller IP list update  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/96142521:39

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