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| openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila: Huawei manila driver code refactoring https://review.openstack.org/176637 | 02:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Igor Malinovskiy proposed openstack/manila: [Debug] Try manila-service-image with public-key auth https://review.openstack.org/187550 | 09:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: [DEBUG] Test Rally CI jobs with Manila https://review.openstack.org/188029 | 14:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: [DEBUG] Test Rally CI jobs with Manila https://review.openstack.org/188029 | 14:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Igor Malinovskiy proposed openstack/manila: Implement extend_share() method in Generic driver https://review.openstack.org/182383 | 14:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Igor Malinovskiy proposed openstack/manila: Implement tempest tests for share extend API https://review.openstack.org/183497 | 14:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: Transform share and share servers statuses to lowercase https://review.openstack.org/186520 | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/188095 | 17:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/188095 | 17:33 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/188115 | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/188095 | 17:44 |
| ganso_ | cknight: ping | 17:45 |
| ganso_ | vponomaryov: ping | 17:51 |
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| markstur | u_glide, Don't you need to create a manila_image_elements project in PyPI? | 17:59 |
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| cknight | ganso_: pong | 18:19 |
| ganso_ | cknight: Hi, do you know by any chance a link to a resource that lists the updated list of minimum requirements for a driver to be accepted in Manila Liberty? I remember that for Kilo, snapshots was a minimum requirement | 18:20 |
| cknight | ganso_: We haven't created that list yet, but I believe shrink was to be the first optional API. Everything else is required and will be covered in CI by Tempest. | 18:21 |
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| ganso_ | cknight: ok! Thank you very much! :) | 18:24 |
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| cknight | ganso_: np! | 18:24 |
| ganso_ | cknight: sorry, hehe, got another question, just remembered | 18:25 |
| cknight | ganso_: shoot | 18:25 |
| ganso_ | cknight: Do security services are a must to be implemented by the drivers? I am not aware of any driver that implements support to all of them. Also, I think it is still mandatory that drivers must support either one of both driver modes, they do not need to support both, right? | 18:26 |
| cknight | ganso_: Correct, there isn't a requirement for a driver to support both modes. | 18:27 |
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| cknight | ganso_: And if you don't need or can't support security services, those would probably not apply either. Ben could provide more color. | 18:27 |
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| ganso_ | cknight: great! thanks a lot! I will talk to bswartz about creating this list and putting on the wiki, it will certainly help a lot of people that are developing driveres! :) | 18:29 |
| ganso_ | /s/driveres/drivers | 18:29 |
| cknight | ganso_: Sounds good, thanks. We do need the wiki to point to as a source of objectivity. | 18:30 |
| bswartz | ganso_: you can talk to me now | 18:30 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: hey! how are things? has baby liberty been born? :D | 18:31 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: I haven't seen you around lately | 18:31 |
| bswartz | yes the baby was born Monday morning | 18:32 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: congrats! :) | 18:32 |
| bswartz | her name is Amelia | 18:32 |
| bswartz | the name Liberty didn't sit well with my wife | 18:32 |
| bswartz | ganso_: ty | 18:33 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: hehe that's nice :) | 18:33 |
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| gregsfortytwo | congrats | 18:33 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: I was just asking cknight if he knew or had a link to a list of minimum requirements that drivers must implement to be accepted | 18:33 |
| gregsfortytwo | you could have called her Liberty in OpenStack circles for privacy ;) | 18:33 |
| bswartz | heh | 18:34 |
| bswartz | that's a good point | 18:34 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: like we talked last release and you told me snapshots was a minimum requirement | 18:34 |
| gregsfortytwo | (I've seen eg some authors do that "This is my baby Oot. That's not really his name, but I want to talk about him") | 18:34 |
| bswartz | ganso_: that's a difficult subject | 18:34 |
| bswartz | the "official" set of required features will be whatever is tested by tempest | 18:34 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: I am coordinating development for a new driver here and I am looking for this list, since we do not have it, I asked cknight about driver modes, security services, share extend/shrink, etc | 18:35 |
| bswartz | that may be too hard to understand/control though | 18:35 |
| bswartz | perhaps tempest tests are a necessary but not sufficient part of making a feature required | 18:36 |
| ganso_ | the Manila API is tested by tempest, but they are not required to be implemented | 18:37 |
| bswartz | we should document the list of feature the core team intends to be required, but the way that we determine if a driver implements them or not should be through automated testing | 18:37 |
| ganso_ | sorry, security services, forgot to mention ^ | 18:37 |
| bswartz | we could end up in a situation where drivers implement a feature, but fail to meet the contract specified by the API | 18:37 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: hi | 18:38 |
| bswartz | for example I could write a driver that implement snapshots with a no-op | 18:38 |
| bswartz | gregsfortytwo: I like your idea | 18:38 |
| bswartz | as far as the openstack community is concerned, the baby is named Liberty | 18:38 |
| * bswartz waves to mkoderer | 18:39 | |
| mkoderer | bswartz: I'd like to make scenario test voting. I never saw them failing... | 18:39 |
| bswartz | ganso_: optional features still need tempest test coverage but they definitely need config options to make them skippable | 18:39 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: and I propsed Manila to be the first user of the Tempest plugin interface | 18:39 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: I opened a BP on the Manila side: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/tempest-plugin-interface | 18:40 |
| bswartz | mkoderer: that's good news! | 18:40 |
| bswartz | mkoderer: I thought that we were using tempest-lib for our CLI tests -- is the tempest plugin interface different than tempest-lib? | 18:40 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: ok, I will start compiling a list from looking at the driver code and tempest tests... and then check back with you, so we can a have an easy link in the wiki page | 18:40 |
| cknight | ganso_: Thanks! | 18:41 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: yeah it's a bit more complicated.. currently Tempest does not have a clean interface for plugins like devstack | 18:41 |
| ganso_ | cknight: :) | 18:41 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: e.g. the client exceptions and scenario manager extensions | 18:41 |
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| mkoderer | it's all about the big tent stuff.. :) | 18:42 |
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| mkoderer | spec on the Tempest side: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184992/ | 18:43 |
| bswartz | mkoderer: I'm in favor of this | 18:43 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: can you approve the bp? I hope we get it done till L-2 | 18:44 |
| bswartz | do you propose that the scenario tests use the plugin interface, or the funcitonal tests, or both? | 18:44 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: all test need to use it | 18:44 |
| bswartz | mkoderer: have you spoken with vponomaryov? I consider him the expert on manila tempest tests | 18:45 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: I think I spoke to him before the summit.. but would be great to get vponomaryov feedback on it | 18:46 |
| mkoderer | it will make rebasing of our tempest tree much easier | 18:47 |
| mkoderer | since we will just use tempest-lib | 18:47 |
| bswartz | yes that was always the goal | 18:49 |
| bswartz | tempest-lib has taken longer to become usable than we expected at the beginning of kilo | 18:49 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: yep.. I know.. :) | 18:50 |
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| ganso_ | bswartz: I forgot to mention that I will be on holidays this Thursday and Friday. I can attend to the weekly meeting but I will not be on IRC for other discussions. I sent an email to the mailing list attempting to drive our ID discussion forward. | 19:03 |
| bswartz | ganso_: okay. I saw that ML post, I haven't read it yet. enjoy your vacation | 19:04 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: thanks! :) | 19:04 |
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