Wednesday, 2015-06-24

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openstackgerritli,chen proposed openstack/manila: Implement versioned object for share export locations  https://review.openstack.org/17369201:37
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csabau_glide: ping07:30
u_glidecsaba: pong07:30
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csabau_glide: can you please let me know which are the tempest test for generic driver? I see now Netapp and HP has their vendor CI sections on the Jenkins list but I can't tell by myself where generic driver is getting tested07:33
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u_glidecsaba: in most tempest tests, your 3rd party CI should run all tests07:36
u_glidecsaba: for example http://dcf901611175aa43f968-c54047c910227e27e1d6f03bb1796fd7.r95.cf5.rackcdn.com/34/177834/13/check/manila-cDOT-no-ss/1cc9f0f/testr_results.html07:37
csabau_glide: that's OK. I'd just like to go through the tempest implementation for generic driver so that I can use that as a base for our drivers.07:38
u_glidecsaba: but you should disable all features, which driver doesn't support via contrib/tempest/tempest/config_share.py config07:38
u_glidecsaba: please look at contrib/ci/pre_test_hook.sh and contrib/ci/post_test_hook.sh in manila07:40
csabau_glide: OK, thx07:40
csabau_glide: I also have questions about manila-server-image.07:41
u_glidecsaba: also https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/jobs/manila.yaml#L158-L20807:41
u_glidecsaba: please go ahead :)07:41
csabau_glide: earlier the relatively big size of a standard distro image was seen as problem. Now, AFAICS, manila-server-image also produces ubuntu based images. Does that mean that focus on the small size is gone?07:42
csaba[ permalink for u_glide's last link: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/3bad17f/jenkins/jobs/manila.yaml#L158-L208 ]07:45
u_glideno, it isn't gone. But reproducibility and  versatility are more important. With new manila-image-elements project we able to produce manila-service-image based on any DISTRO07:45
u_glideit's very useful because manila is distributed by different companies07:46
csabau_glide: just trying to think -- does this mean it implements / operates through a generic mechanism for injecting files to a base image?07:47
u_glidecsaba: yes https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder07:47
u_glidecurrently image is based on minimal ubuntu image07:48
u_glidebut it could be changed07:48
u_glidealso you should understand that we can't produce small image without custom linux-kernel07:49
csabaah OK, I knew of image builder, but earlier I had the superficial impression that it's Ubuntu specific07:50
csabawhat's wrong with using a standard kernel with carefully selected trimmed down set of modules?07:51
u_glidecsaba: default kernel's are extremely large, just consider default trusty kernel package http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-image-generic07:53
u_glideit's ~200Mb07:53
u_glideit's possible to have 5-10Mb kernel without tons of crap :)07:54
u_glidebut it requires additional efforts07:56
csabau_glide: in the package you refer to the vmlinuz image itself is 5.6Mb07:57
u_glideyes, but http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-image-extra-3.13.0-55-generic07:58
u_glideis required dependency07:58
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u_glidecsaba: anyway if you know hot to overcome it, please feel free to hack https://github.com/openstack/manila-image-elements/tree/master/elements/manila-ubuntu-core08:02
u_glides/hot/how08:02
csabahmm OK08:02
csabaI thought of just deploying a custom kernel tarball instead of the full package -- I don't know if that has any difficulties with this framework08:05
u_glidewe couldn't do so with ubuntu08:06
u_glidebecause it volatiles Ubuntu license08:06
u_glidebut we could do so with Debian and probably Fedora08:06
csabau_glide: that's interesting I did not know of a such a legal limitation... what's there in the license that forbids this?08:10
u_glidecsaba: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/licensing08:13
u_glideand http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/intellectual-property-policy08:17
u_glide"Any redistribution of modified versions of Ubuntu must be approved, certified or provided by Canonical if you are going to associate it with the Trademarks. Otherwise you must remove and replace the Trademarks and will need to recompile the source code to create your own binaries. This does not affect your rights under any open source licence applicable to any of the components of Ubuntu. If you need us to approve, certify or provide modified08:17
csabau_glide: ah yeah I see08:25
csabaso the one used in manila-ubuntu-core is an unmodified official image?08:25
csabau_glide: I read there "Provides minimalistic Ubuntu 14.04 LTS based on Ubuntu Core image." -- what's "based on" then and how is then "basing on" legaily feasible?08:25
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csabayeah but at image level, adding extra stuff is still a modification,  even if the packages themselves are not modified...08:26
u_glidecsaba: if my understanding is right, it's not forbidden by ubuntu license08:28
csabau_glide: OK so then, I imply, it would be possible to use an ubuntu based kernel (using those patches + config) if we are willing to go back to the source level and compile ourselves..08:31
u_glidecsaba: probably... I'm not an expert in legal staff08:37
csabau_glide: I wonder that in general what would be the process of finding out about such things... in certain cases that can be quite important and I feel clueless when I don't know if I'm allowed to do what I plan up08:40
u_glidecsaba: I think it's good idea to switch to Debian and do everything we want without any legal issues08:42
u_glideso if you are going to create more minimalistic os-element for manila-image-elements it should be based on Debian08:45
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csabau_glide: OK.. that leads through to the other question: do you have already any  idea about the practice of creating and distributing custom images according to driver specific needs?08:58
u_glidecsaba: yes, I think in future manila will be distributed with vendor specific distros (Cannonical Openstack with Ubuntu, Suse with OpenSUSE and so on)09:00
csabau_glide: I thought of driver specific customizations from which aspect what seems to practical is just to make the necessary changes / additions on a base image instead of switching distros...09:02
u_glideoh, Yes such customizations already available09:03
u_glidehttps://github.com/openstack/manila-image-elements/blob/add7e2ccd0bd7c4e8eaa16cf47301eca9ed4e8e5/bin/manila-image-create#L35-L3609:04
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csabau_glide: thanks for your time and patience. I'll check it, I've got to now!09:09
u_glidecsaba: np09:09
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila: Delete redundant period in ManilaException messages  https://review.openstack.org/19263709:25
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila: Huawei driver support storage pools  https://review.openstack.org/18833209:31
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila: Huawei driver support storage pools  https://review.openstack.org/18833209:33
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openstackgerritSergey Vilgelm proposed openstack/manila: Switch to oslo.service  https://review.openstack.org/19502110:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/manila: Use loopingcall from oslo.service  https://review.openstack.org/19288514:02
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openstackgerritJulia Varlamova proposed openstack/manila: Add PoolWeigher for Manila scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/18405314:05
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openstackgerritSebastien Badia proposed openstack/puppet-manila: keystone/auth: make service description configurable  https://review.openstack.org/19516415:56
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openstackgerritSebastien Badia proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Fix Beaker CI according recent puppetlabs-rabbitmq change.  https://review.openstack.org/19520317:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/manila: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19511419:52
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openstackgerritSebastien Badia proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Fix Beaker CI according recent puppetlabs-rabbitmq change.  https://review.openstack.org/19520322:11
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