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openstackgerrit | Matt Fischer proposed openstack/puppet-manila: fix module install reference https://review.openstack.org/199811 | 01:16 |
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openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/manila: Support for oversubscription in thin provisioning https://review.openstack.org/192044 | 02:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Xiaohua Yuan proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Move rabbit/amqp_durable_queues setting to oslo_messaging_rabbit section https://review.openstack.org/199837 | 02:52 |
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openstackgerrit | zhaohua proposed openstack/manila: Huawei manila driver support multi RestURLs https://review.openstack.org/197828 | 03:31 |
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openstackgerrit | jay.xu proposed openstack/manila: EMC VNX: Fix the total capacity for dynamic Pool https://review.openstack.org/190533 | 05:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Wang proposed openstack/manila: Add access-level support in VNX Manila driver https://review.openstack.org/199929 | 07:41 |
openstackgerrit | Peter Wang proposed openstack/manila: Add access-level support in VNX Manila driver https://review.openstack.org/199929 | 07:42 |
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openstackgerrit | zhaohua proposed openstack/manila: Huawei manila driver support multi RestURLs https://review.openstack.org/197828 | 09:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Wang proposed openstack/manila: Add access-level support in VNX Manila driver https://review.openstack.org/199929 | 11:16 |
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openstackgerrit | zhaohua proposed openstack/manila: Huawei manila driver support multi RestURLs https://review.openstack.org/197828 | 12:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Prepare 6.0.0 release https://review.openstack.org/200063 | 13:00 |
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lpabon | bswartz: ping | 14:33 |
bswartz | lpabon: pong | 14:33 |
lpabon | Quick question (i've been out for a little while). Is manila going to support shrink volume size? | 14:33 |
lpabon | not only expand? | 14:33 |
bswartz | lpabon: yes | 14:33 |
bswartz | toabctl: ping | 14:34 |
lpabon | ah ok. Do all drivers need to support that? | 14:34 |
toabctl | bswartz: hey | 14:34 |
toabctl | bswartz: back since today :) | 14:34 |
bswartz | wb! | 14:34 |
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bswartz | toabctl: I just became aware of this change: https://github.com/openstack/manila-ui/commit/9a4769dbb0c9e18d49a064acdf8df99dd0727f96 | 14:34 |
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bswartz | my question for you is, does this change require some new horizon feature from liberty? or can we backport it to kilo? | 14:35 |
toabctl | bswartz: I think that works for Kilo (maybe even Juno). let me check.... | 14:36 |
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bswartz | toabctl: no way it works for juno -- the plugin feature was implemented late in kilo | 14:36 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: manila-ui does not have juno branch antway | 14:38 |
vponomaryov | *anyway | 14:38 |
lpabon | bswartz: vponomaryov: On resize, is it defined by manila if the volume can go offline while resizing? I'm just asking while reviewing the generic driver shrink patch | 14:39 |
bswartz | vponomaryov, toabctl: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200130/ | 14:39 |
vponomaryov | lpabon: it just should be documented | 14:40 |
bswartz | lpabon: yes unfortunately some drivers have to disconnect the share briefly to expand/shrink | 14:40 |
bswartz | it's something that should be avoided but in the case of generic it seems unavoidable | 14:40 |
bswartz | lpabon: if you have an idea for how to implement it without that limitation please suggest an enhancement! | 14:41 |
lpabon | bswartz: np, but i agree with vponomaryov, it probably should be noted in the API what the expected behavior should be. | 14:41 |
bswartz | lpabon: I interpreted vponomaryov's comment to mean documented in the driver docs | 14:42 |
lpabon | From a user standpoint (not as a storage developer), I wouldn't want to have my volume go offline while it being resized, but the reality is that different implementations may do different things | 14:42 |
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lpabon | ah, yes, that should be noted there. But quick question.. If an admin has multiple driver vendors providing manila shares to users... | 14:43 |
lpabon | The users of the shares may get incosistent behavior while resizing volumes | 14:43 |
bswartz | I agree, I'm not thrilled about it | 14:44 |
bswartz | but I don't see an alternative | 14:44 |
bswartz | no implementing expand doesn't make sense (not implementing shrink I could live with) | 14:44 |
bswartz | and the generic driver needs to implement all the features | 14:44 |
lpabon | yeah, just thinking about the user experience when some of their shares have different behaviors.. | 14:45 |
lpabon | but i agree, i am not sure of the answer, unless we say that resizing a share WILL make them offline until resize has finished | 14:46 |
lpabon | that would guarantee behavior, but may make some vendors concerned that their feature is not reflected accordingly | 14:46 |
lpabon | What happens today on Cinder resize of volume? Is it an online or offline operation? | 14:47 |
vponomaryov | lpabon: detach / resize, reattach | 14:48 |
lpabon | ah ok, so it is expected to go offline | 14:48 |
lpabon | My $0.02 opinion, is that the expected behavior should be the same across Manila shares resize operations | 14:49 |
vponomaryov | it is eisier for Cinder because volumes attached only to one VM | 14:49 |
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lpabon | So it would be expected to go offline | 14:49 |
lpabon | vponomaryov: yeah, Cinder always has it easier :-D, but I think understanding and having behavior expectation is really important | 14:49 |
bswartz | lpabon: the problem is that nearly all the other (non-generic) backends can easily resize online | 14:50 |
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bswartz | and it's a much better user experience to resize online | 14:50 |
lpabon | bswartz: i think the real problem is that *nearly* is not all | 14:50 |
bswartz | yes | 14:50 |
bswartz | thus my ask for a possible solution to make this better in generic | 14:50 |
lpabon | i think if all supported that the expected behavior is corrct | 14:50 |
lpabon | i think until that is done, the expected behavior should be to have the mount go offline until all drivers can support the same behavior | 14:51 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: it means make better Cinder =) | 14:51 |
bswartz | vponomaryov: that's no the only way | 14:52 |
bswartz | not* | 14:52 |
bswartz | we could use a filesystem that supported online size changes inside the generic driver | 14:52 |
bswartz | nowhere is it written that we're stuck with the limitation of ext4 | 14:52 |
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u_glide | bswartz: fs change doesn't help, because it's cinder requirement | 14:58 |
bswartz | u_glide: I can imagine ways to work around that | 14:59 |
bswartz | like combining multiple cinder volumes with RAID0 | 14:59 |
bswartz | but it would be added complexity | 14:59 |
u_glide | actually new linux kernels and ext4 support online resizing | 15:00 |
bswartz | u_glide: how new exactly? | 15:01 |
bswartz | don't want something too new | 15:01 |
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u_glide | bswartz: 2.6+ :) | 15:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/puppet-manila: Move rabbit/amqp_durable_queues setting to oslo_messaging_rabbit section https://review.openstack.org/199837 | 15:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/manila: Add Windows SMB share driver https://review.openstack.org/200154 | 15:41 |
lpetrut1 | Hi guys. I just submited a first draft for the Windows SMB share driver implementation. I would be very thankfull if anyone could take a look. I've marked it as WIP as I have to add unit tests | 15:45 |
bswartz | toabctl: looks like my cherrypick of your change is unclean or the kilo branch might be broken https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200130/ | 15:48 |
bswartz | lpetrut1: that's great! | 15:48 |
toabctl | bswartz: hm. seems to be a problem with pbr | 15:50 |
bswartz | toabctl: is it obvious to you what the problem is? I can debug this but help is appreciated | 15:53 |
ganso_ | u_glide: ping | 16:00 |
bswartz | toabctl: do we need to change setup.cfg to have a 1.0.1 version to make pbr happy? | 16:01 |
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toabctl | bswartz: good question. I don't know... | 16:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Ben Swartzlander proposed openstack/manila-ui: Update version to 1.0.1 https://review.openstack.org/200166 | 16:07 |
bswartz | toabctl: ^ | 16:07 |
openstackgerrit | Petrut Lucian proposed openstack/manila: Add Windows SMB share driver https://review.openstack.org/200154 | 16:08 |
ganso_ | u_glide: Hi, I am off work today, I reviewed your share instances PoC, I still need to test fetch and test it with share migration. There is one item that is not clear to me, I left a comment in gerrit change. | 16:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/puppet-manila: Prepare 6.0.0 release https://review.openstack.org/200063 | 16:26 |
toabctl | bswartz: hm. patch is in merge conflict now | 16:29 |
toabctl | bswartz: I'll have a look tomorrow... | 16:29 |
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lpetrut1 | vponomaryov: Thanks a lot for taking the time to review the Windows driver implementation | 16:52 |
vponomaryov | lpetrut1: you inherit generic driver, but have you tested all inherited things? | 16:53 |
vponomaryov | lpetrut1: like manage/unmanage, etc? | 16:53 |
vponomaryov | lpetrut1: different networking configurations? | 16:54 |
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lpetrut1 | vponomaryov: the manage/unmanage operation is one of the operations that I haven't tested yet. At some point, I was raising NotImplementedError in this case but it seems that this slipped way from the code. At the moment, I've tested the basic operations, including AD integration and setting permissions. I thought about sending the implementation as it is now just to see if I'm on the right track. I'm going to make sure that all the features suppo | 17:10 |
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bswartz | markstur: ping | 18:27 |
markstur | bswartz, pong | 18:27 |
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bswartz | xyang_ xyang1: ping | 18:55 |
xyang_ | bswartz: hi | 18:56 |
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bswartz | markstur xyang_ toabctl cknight: please take another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200130/ which is a backport to make installing manila-ui much easier (original change should have been a bugfix because the install method is broken in kilo) | 19:17 |
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xyang_ | bswartz: sure | 19:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Ben Swartzlander proposed openstack/manila-ui: Switch to post-versioning https://review.openstack.org/200234 | 19:52 |
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openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/manila: Change "volume" to "share" in filter and weigher https://review.openstack.org/200243 | 20:27 |
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openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/manila: Change "volume" to "share" in filter and weigher https://review.openstack.org/200243 | 20:44 |
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