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| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Add possibility to filter back ends by snapshot support https://review.openstack.org/211222 | 09:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/212257 | 09:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: New Manila HDS HNAS Driver https://review.openstack.org/204692 | 13:33 |
| alyson_ | vponomaryov: ping | 13:34 |
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| vponomaryov | alyson_: pong | 13:39 |
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| alyson_ | vponomaryov: would you mind having a look at the change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204692 | 13:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Add possibility to filter back ends by snapshot support https://review.openstack.org/211222 | 13:48 |
| vponomaryov | alyson_: sure, but it is not small | 13:51 |
| vponomaryov | alyson_: all coners were addressed? | 13:51 |
| vponomaryov | s/coners/concerns/ | 13:51 |
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| alyson_ | our coverage in unit test is now 99%-100%. And we have more asserts to mocked stuff | 13:55 |
| vponomaryov | alyson_: nice to read =) | 13:58 |
| ganso_ | bswartz: ping | 14:00 |
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| crobertsrh | Hello. I'm working on integrating Sahara with Manila. Have any of you seen the following error when trying to create a share? SSHException: Check whether private key or password are correctly set. Error connecting via ssh: not a valid EC private key file | 14:28 |
| crobertsrh | I see the same error even when I try to ssh to a manually created service instance. | 14:28 |
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| crobertsrh | But if I use the manila-service keypair for a cirros instance, I am able to log in. | 14:29 |
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| vponomaryov | crobertsrh: is it similar to your - https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1480870 ? | 14:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1480870 in Manila "tempest scenario job is unstable" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Valeriy Ponomaryov (vponomaryov) | 14:49 |
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| dustins | so, where were we... | 16:01 |
| ameade | vponomaryov: yeah probably | 16:01 |
| bswartz | please continue the test discussion here | 16:01 |
| vponomaryov | so, I agree, that test independence is "what" we should be trying to do if we can" | 16:02 |
| vponomaryov | but not in case of Manila shares and its share servers | 16:02 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: but those are the things that I'm most concerned about | 16:02 |
| vponomaryov | either our tests will take lots of time or we reuse resources | 16:02 |
| ameade | yeah if things ran faster then it's a no brainer | 16:02 |
| akerr | is there a way to make the generic driver faster? | 16:03 |
| vponomaryov | make Nova and CInder faster =) | 16:03 |
| dustins | I'm only one man :P | 16:03 |
| akerr | do we really need nova and cinder? can't we just do loopback from the test node? | 16:03 |
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| ameade | +1 | 16:04 |
| vponomaryov | also, our "shared" shares are used for "read" operations | 16:04 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: do you have real example of a problem having shared resources in our case? | 16:05 |
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| dustins | vponomaryov: one thing that caught my eye was the update tests in share_actions | 16:05 |
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| dustins | It's possible that if those run first, they could affect the tests above it (the list with details tests) | 16:06 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: it is point against of your idea | 16:07 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: we exactly should not be sure that it works in parallel | 16:08 |
| vponomaryov | no "not" =) | 16:08 |
| bswartz | sorry I got distracted and I'm reading back | 16:08 |
| dustins | I'm not sure I follow, we'd want the tests to be independent (or as independent as possible), but that seems to not do that | 16:09 |
| dustins | Where the tests can modify the shares that are being examined in another class | 16:09 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: what do you mean by "independent" then? You mentioned two things - order of test runs and share resources | 16:09 |
| bswartz | it sounds like the underlying problem here is that our tests are designed to make running gate jobs in the generic driver tolerable, and the generic driver has severe performance limitations which causes us to compromise on test design | 16:09 |
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| dustins | bswartz: so it seems | 16:10 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: it is not a problem to eliminate such cases | 16:10 |
| * akerr thinks of suppress_errors_on_cleanup | 16:10 | |
| vponomaryov | dustins: when we have influence of "other existing resources that are changed somehow" | 16:10 |
| bswartz | the only way I can see to get out of jail here would be to add a new first party driver which doesn't have performance limitations | 16:11 |
| bswartz | and to use that new driver for gate tests | 16:11 |
| dustins | bswartz: that sounds like no small undertaking | 16:11 |
| bswartz | should we dust off the old "Manila LVM driver"? | 16:11 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov, you probably remember that old driver | 16:12 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it is the same as generic driver with DHSS=False | 16:12 |
| bswartz | we deleted it during icehouse I think | 16:12 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: we should consider the most expensive case - DHSS=True | 16:12 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: I thought the Manila LVM driver didn't depend on cinder and nova -- it ran NFS on the physical node with no virtualization | 16:12 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: I mean absense of share servers | 16:13 |
| bswartz | yes that driver could never support share servers which was why we deleted it | 16:13 |
| bswartz | but then during Kilo we specifically added support for DHSS=false drivers | 16:13 |
| bswartz | so we could bring it back now | 16:13 |
| dustins | DHSS is what exactly? | 16:13 |
| bswartz | driver_handles_share_servers | 16:13 |
| vponomaryov | it is driver mode | 16:14 |
| dustins | bswartz: gotcha | 16:14 |
| ameade | lvm volumes could be 1 to 1 with share servers | 16:14 |
| ameade | and then shares are exports within those | 16:15 |
| bswartz | so we could possibly bring back that driver and get fast gate test runs for the no_share_servers test job | 16:15 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: so, IMHO, it is bad test that can be broken by other and just should be fixed | 16:15 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: Agreed | 16:15 |
| bswartz | however I think vponomaryov is right that as long as we want coverage of all the share_server logic in the gate, we need the generic driver | 16:15 |
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| vponomaryov | dustins: and it does not mean that we can not use approach of shared resources | 16:15 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: I may not like it, but if it means the difference between an hour run and a several hour run... | 16:16 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: in conclusion - Tempest tests can have bugs in themselves that just should be fixed | 16:16 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: we have 300+ tests | 16:17 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: Absolutely | 16:17 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: I think dustins/akerr were getting at something more basic though | 16:17 |
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| vponomaryov | dustins: share creation with DHSS=True can take upto 2 minutes | 16:17 |
| dustins | O_O | 16:17 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: bigger part of it - server creation | 16:17 |
| dustins | 300 * 2minutes == a LOT OF MINUTES | 16:18 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: if the tests were designed to create/delete shares in each test then drivers which could do that quickly would get far easier to understand test results | 16:18 |
| dustins | Yeah, because the generic driver creates a Nova instance, yeah? | 16:18 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: yes, it does | 16:18 |
| bswartz | I wonder if it would be possible to make reuse of shares optional in tempest | 16:19 |
| dustins | bswartz: It could be an option that could be specified in tempest.conf | 16:19 |
| dustins | enabling the option makes the resources essentially a class-scoped singleton | 16:19 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: could be, but it is big set of efforts - rewrite everything =) | 16:20 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: yeah that's my concern | 16:20 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: I'm not opposed to helping out with that | 16:20 |
| bswartz | if someone is motivated to "rewrite everything" though we shouldn't say no | 16:20 |
| bswartz | we should understand what the goals are and what the current limitations are, so this discussion is a good one | 16:20 |
| dustins | It is a very large undertaking, but I'm not opposed to doing it | 16:20 |
| bswartz | dustins: so much for 5 minutes... | 16:21 |
| dustins | hahaha | 16:21 |
| dustins | We could start with a simple audit of "what're we doing now?" and see where we could improve | 16:21 |
| dustins | It sounds like we have two things on that list already | 16:21 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: improve - look at scenario tests | 16:22 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: they do everything in one line | 16:22 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: such as create two VMs - create one, wait its success ,then create second | 16:22 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: I'll have to have a look at them, I haven't gotten around to them! | 16:22 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: this is the field to spend time is better | 16:22 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: you mean the scenario tests serialize all their actions when they could be parallelized? | 16:23 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: Indeed, it seems like there is a lot of focus across the QA folks to emphasize Scenario tests | 16:23 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: yes | 16:23 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: our scenario tests can be improved greatly | 16:23 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it can take less time greatly | 16:23 |
| dustins | doesn't mean we shouldn't have our functional tests and keep them up to muster, but you're right | 16:23 |
| bswartz | gate-manila-tempest-dsvm-neutron-scenario SUCCESS in 51m 38s (non-voting) | 16:24 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it is 4 tests | 16:24 |
| bswartz | I just picked a random change and it seems scenario took 51 minutes | 16:24 |
| bswartz | and that job is parallelized with the other jobs so it doesn't actually slow down the jenkins +1 vote | 16:24 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: ideally, we current 4 tests it should take 30 minutes | 16:24 |
| vponomaryov | s/we/tith/ | 16:24 |
| bswartz | 51 minutes for 4 tests is a long time | 16:24 |
| dustins | bswartz: They're doing some heavy lifting in the background (booting instances, creating security groups, etc) | 16:25 |
| dustins | but even then, that seems like a long time | 16:25 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: it is done there one by one | 16:26 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: instead of all at once | 16:26 |
| bswartz | okay I've got to run to lunch | 16:26 |
| bswartz | bbl | 16:26 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: also, tests can be splitted to different classes to be able to run each test in parallel | 16:26 |
| dustins | Yeah, I'm looking at the test_mount_share_one_vm test case now | 16:26 |
| dustins | Seems pretty straightforward | 16:26 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: Indeed, another thing I wanted to have a look at was that | 16:27 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: also, adding support of DHSS=False to scenario tests is must-have, IMHO | 16:27 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: that is just not implemented yet | 16:28 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: perhaps that DHSS=False into the scenario tests thing is something that we could focus on going into Mitaka? | 16:28 |
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| dustins | It sounds like I've got some work cut out for me: I'm gonna keep track of some places we could improve as I go through more of the Tempest tests | 16:30 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: it is more preffered in any case against "adding possibility to create separate resources for each test" | 16:30 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: yeah, I'll keep that in mind, it seems to be expensive to do so | 16:31 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: also extending with new tests | 16:31 |
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| dustins | (I might try a per-test share creation on the shares_actions tests to see how big of an impact they'd have) | 16:31 |
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| dustins | vponomaryov: No new functional tests? | 16:32 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: so, in easy words, it is not the most bad monster we suffer from =) | 16:32 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: hahaha | 16:32 |
| dustins | Seems like Scenario tests might be on the testing side, and the generic driver's reliance on Nova and Cinder in another | 16:33 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: what do you mean by "no new func tests"? | 16:33 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: it is always welcome | 16:33 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: ah, I misread what you typed above | 16:33 |
| dustins | I thought you were implying that it was preferred not to add new tests | 16:33 |
| dustins | But yes, I'll go through the rest of the tests and see what I can find that we can reasonably improve upon and present it at a future Manila meeting | 16:35 |
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| dustins | vponomaryov: and let me know if there's anyway I can help you out with anything QA! | 16:36 |
| dustins | Now I'm gonna grab some lunch, all this typing has worked up an appetite :) | 16:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-manila: api: require ::keystone::python https://review.openstack.org/212680 | 17:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-manila: acceptance: bump to Liberty release https://review.openstack.org/209293 | 17:46 |
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| crobertsrh | vponomaryov: Yes, that does sound a lot like my problem. | 18:50 |
| crobertsrh | Sorry, I was away for awhile and missed your reply from a few hours ago. | 18:50 |
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| crobertsrh | vponomaryov: I'm seeing the bug just by running devstack and then immediately trying to spin-up a share. (fedora 22) | 18:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clinton Knight proposed openstack/manila: Implement Manila REST API microversions https://review.openstack.org/207228 | 19:51 |
| crobertsrh | Maybe this will ring a bell for someone. SSHing to my service insance seems to be failing. Upon some tweaking and inspection, it looks like /home/manila/.ssh/authorized_keys does not exist. Has anyone seen this? Any solutions? | 19:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shaun Edwards proposed openstack/manila: Fix for Isilon driver failing to connect https://review.openstack.org/212847 | 23:49 |
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