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openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Scheduler enhancements for Share Replication https://review.openstack.org/277545 | 03:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Share Replication API and Scheduler Support https://review.openstack.org/238572 | 03:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Scheduler enhancements for Share Replication https://review.openstack.org/277545 | 03:02 |
openstackgerrit | Csaba Henk proposed openstack/manila: gluster*: clean up volume option querying https://review.openstack.org/277141 | 03:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Add tempest tests for Share Replication https://review.openstack.org/244843 | 03:49 |
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openstackgerrit | venkatamahesh proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Abbreviate e.g to "for example" https://review.openstack.org/278862 | 05:10 |
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openstackgerrit | venkatamahesh proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Abbreviate e.g to "for example" https://review.openstack.org/278862 | 05:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: LXC/LXD driver https://review.openstack.org/245751 | 09:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Implement admin network in generic driver https://review.openstack.org/278699 | 09:51 |
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rraja | jcsp: ping | 10:15 |
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openstackgerrit | John Spray proposed openstack/manila: Add Ceph Native driver https://review.openstack.org/270211 | 10:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: LXC/LXD driver https://review.openstack.org/245751 | 11:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Implement admin network in generic driver https://review.openstack.org/278699 | 12:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Move Share Migration code to Data Service https://review.openstack.org/250515 | 12:19 |
openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Add new Share migration API functions https://review.openstack.org/259642 | 12:21 |
openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Add ZFSonLinux share driver https://review.openstack.org/277192 | 12:28 |
ganso | bswartz: ping | 12:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Implement update_access() method in generic driver https://review.openstack.org/256281 | 13:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Add ZFSonLinux share driver https://review.openstack.org/277192 | 13:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Ramana Raja proposed openstack/manila: Fix cephx rule tempest tests https://review.openstack.org/275518 | 13:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: LXC/LXD driver https://review.openstack.org/245751 | 14:09 |
openstackgerrit | Csaba Henk proposed openstack/manila: glusterfs: introducing Heketi layout https://review.openstack.org/279090 | 14:10 |
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openstackgerrit | John Spray proposed openstack/manila: Add Ceph Native driver https://review.openstack.org/270211 | 14:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Csaba Henk proposed openstack/manila: glusterfs: introducing Heketi layout https://review.openstack.org/279090 | 14:15 |
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bswartz | ganso: pong (sorry for high latency) | 14:31 |
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bswartz | vponomaryov: I'm confused about your references to the FUSE version of ZFS | 14:36 |
bswartz | when I run the devstack plugin from your patch on trusty, I end up with the native version of ZFS | 14:37 |
bswartz | how is it possible that the gate would get something different? It must use the same devstack plugin... | 14:37 |
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vponomaryov | bswartz: it already has ZFS | 14:40 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: and doe snot install it in Devstack | 14:40 |
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bswartz | the dsvm nodes have zfs-fuse pre-installed? | 14:41 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: yes | 14:42 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: you can see it in any other CI run in "dpkg" list | 14:42 |
bswartz | that seems bad... | 14:43 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: why? | 14:43 |
bswartz | because then the gate tests will always be FUSE-based which won't match what real users will do | 14:44 |
bswartz | do you have any idea why they have those packages? | 14:44 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: I did not investigate why, but we can make install kernel version | 14:44 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: forcibly | 14:45 |
bswartz | would it be very bad to "apt-get remove zfs-fuse" in our devstack plugin? | 14:45 |
* mkoderer would never use any fuse driver in production :) | 14:45 | |
vponomaryov | bswartz: not sure we need to remove it, we just need to install kernel version | 14:46 |
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bswartz | I bet the 2 would conflict | 14:46 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: one of two my labs with kernel version has both | 14:47 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: "ubuntu-zfs" is set of packages | 14:47 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: and fuse one of them | 14:47 |
bswartz | vponomaryov: when you have both installed, how do you decide which one gets used? | 14:47 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: kernel used if it is available | 14:48 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: no one asks me | 14:48 |
bswartz | hmm | 14:48 |
bswartz | I like the idea of force-installing the native package then | 14:48 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: ok, will update | 14:48 |
bswartz | I still don't understand why the user-space tools for export management are so funky | 14:48 |
mkoderer | bswartz: is zfs officialy supported by U | 14:49 |
bswartz | the solaris-like syntax for sharenfs is pretty insane | 14:49 |
mkoderer | sry supported by Ubuntu LTS | 14:49 |
mkoderer | bswartz: seems a special PPA needs to be activated? | 14:49 |
vponomaryov | mkoderer: yes | 14:49 |
vponomaryov | mkoderer: yes for PPA | 14:49 |
bswartz | mkoderer: PPA is needed for trusty -- for wily and later it's in standard distro | 14:50 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: have you seen my answer about naming of driver? | 14:50 |
bswartz | vponomaryov: I just read it | 14:51 |
bswartz | I think in the short term we will not test on Solaris or BSD, but in the future if someone wanted to support those platforms, they would be much better off extending this driver instead of writing a new one | 14:52 |
bswartz | so we should name the driver with possible future extensions in mind | 14:52 |
bswartz | I agree we need to clearly distinguish from zfssa | 14:52 |
bswartz | maybe "plainzfs"? or "unixzfs"? | 14:53 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: None, "unix" is not supported OS, plain is unclear | 14:54 |
bswartz | I just know once it merges it will get very hard to change the name | 14:54 |
bswartz | and I can see someone adding BSD support with fairly small effort in future release | 14:54 |
bswartz | or Solaris | 14:55 |
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vponomaryov | bswartz: yes, need just to think how to call Solaris, BSD and Linux stuff under one word | 14:55 |
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vponomaryov | bswartz: how to name their similarity | 14:55 |
bswartz | typically people use the term "UNIX" even though it's technically incorrect, or sometimes "UNIX-like" | 14:56 |
mkoderer | LiUnixZFS | 14:56 |
bswartz | mkoderer: lol | 14:56 |
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vponomaryov | ZfsONix, ZFSonNix | 14:57 |
tbarron | unix-like | 14:58 |
tbarron | nixish | 14:58 |
tbarron | :) | 14:58 |
mkoderer | tbarron: we definitly need to vote in the manila meeting :) | 14:59 |
tbarron | mkoderer: short agenda, huh? | 14:59 |
tbarron | naming is too important to be done democratically | 15:00 |
ganso | bswartz: Could you please approve? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/data-service-migration | 15:00 |
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openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/manila: Manage and unmanage snapshot https://review.openstack.org/249542 | 15:03 |
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bswartz | csaba: #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:36 |
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openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/manila: oManage and unmanage snapshot https://review.openstack.org/249542 | 15:50 |
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openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/manila: Manage and unmanage snapshot https://review.openstack.org/249542 | 15:57 |
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xyang_ | gouthamr: ping | 16:02 |
gouthamr | xyang_: pong | 16:02 |
gouthamr | xyang_: hi! | 16:02 |
xyang_ | gouthamr: hi, regarding your comment, I added explanation, did you see it? | 16:02 |
gouthamr | xyang_: didn't see that.. i wasn't sure if driver_private_storage is meant only to be used with snapshots.. | 16:03 |
gouthamr | xyang_: also, is that meant to be an "admin" level API? | 16:04 |
xyang_ | gouthamr: I discussed this with bswartz, cknight, vponomaryov, initially they asked me to submit a separate patch for driver private data, but then bswartz he is ok if they put them in one patch | 16:04 |
xyang_ | gouthamr: yes, admin api, not just for snapshots | 16:05 |
xyang_ | gouthamr: I need to do some cleanup in the patch to remove some code I added in snapshot views | 16:05 |
gouthamr | xyang_: okay, if there's general agreement, its good :) | 16:05 |
xyang_ | gouthamr: thanks | 16:05 |
gouthamr | xyang_: yep. I can help by reviewing it.. | 16:05 |
xyang_ | great | 16:06 |
xyang_ | bswartz, cknight, vponomaryov: can you also take a look of the driver private data API I added in the patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249542/ | 16:06 |
xyang_ | WIP, but I'd like to get some early feedback | 16:07 |
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cknight | xyang1: yes | 16:11 |
cknight | vponomaryov: ping | 16:12 |
vponomaryov | cknight: pong | 16:12 |
cknight | vponomaryov: Did you define any standard keys for export location metadata? Such as a key to identify preferred vs. non-preferred paths? | 16:12 |
vponomaryov | cknight: no | 16:13 |
vponomaryov | cknight: only wto - "user" and "admin" | 16:13 |
cknight | vponomaryov: Ben recalls suggesting we do that, but I guess we didn't, then. I'm going to use 'preferred': True/False, and we can discuss a standard for that later. | 16:14 |
vponomaryov | cknight: it si up to the EL metadata | 16:14 |
vponomaryov | cknight: I didn't implement specific keys | 16:14 |
cknight | vponomaryov: I also noticed that the EL metadata isn't returned from the REST interface. Any reason why? | 16:14 |
xyang_ | cknight, vponomaryov: uri is driver_private_data/<host>/<entity_id> | 16:14 |
vponomaryov | cknight: they can be easily added | 16:14 |
vponomaryov | cknight: it is intentional | 16:15 |
vponomaryov | cknight: each "agreed" key should be added explicitly | 16:15 |
vponomaryov | cknight: to API view | 16:15 |
cknight | vponomaryov: but what's the harm in also returning anything in the metadata dictionary? | 16:15 |
vponomaryov | cknight: https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/b1b723ad0b8a61eef296977c03ef2bb244e90e27/manila/api/views/export_locations.py#L31 | 16:16 |
vponomaryov | cknight: API stability contract? | 16:16 |
cknight | vponomaryov: Yeah, I saw that. OK, something to discuss later, then. I have the basic EL metadata working in my drivers. So far, so good. | 16:17 |
vponomaryov | cknight: so, it is question of APi versioning, that's all, DB structure will not be changed since we have ELM | 16:18 |
vponomaryov | xyang_: you say it is WIP? | 16:19 |
vponomaryov | xyang_: what exactly are you planning to add? | 16:19 |
vponomaryov | xyang_: or what is unfinished yet on your opinion? | 16:19 |
xyang1 | vponomaryov: can you take a look of driver_private_data files | 16:20 |
vponomaryov | xyang1: it will take a while | 16:20 |
xyang_ | vponomaryov: manila/api/v2/driver_private_data.py, manila/api/views/driver_private_data.py, manila/api/v2/router.py | 16:20 |
xyang_ | vponomaryov: sure. I just want to know if the API looks ok | 16:21 |
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xyang_ | vponomaryov: so right now it requires host and entity_id | 16:22 |
vponomaryov | xyang_: where is list of all entities? | 16:23 |
vponomaryov | xyang_: planned, no? | 16:23 |
xyang_ | vponomaryov: I didn't add that. that is a question too | 16:23 |
xyang_ | vponomaryov: we have db.driver_private_data_get which requires host and entity_id | 16:23 |
xyang_ | vponomaryov: do we want a more general one that retrieves all? | 16:24 |
xyang_ | vponomaryov: and host and entity_id will be filter? | 16:24 |
xyang_ | that is the part I need feedback | 16:24 |
vponomaryov | xyang_: if we do not have use case for it, then, maybe no | 16:24 |
xyang_ | vponomaryov: or we can have this now and expand later if there is use case | 16:25 |
vponomaryov | xyang_: right now there is only one use case - make "manage snapshot" feature work in a good way | 16:25 |
xyang_ | vponomaryov: ok | 16:26 |
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tpsilva | vponomaryov: ping | 16:33 |
vponomaryov | tpsilva: pong | 16:33 |
rraja | /nick rraja|afk | 16:38 |
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ganso | tpsilva: ping | 16:54 |
tpsilva | ganso: pong | 16:54 |
tpsilva | vponomaryov: my irc is acting funny, so I don't know if you got my messages, so here it goes | 16:55 |
tpsilva | vponomaryov: When you have time, could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279164/? It's that patch that adds the separate process for the data service. It's not quite ready for reviews yet, but I would like to know if that approach would be ok | 16:55 |
tpsilva | vponomaryov: it's really small, so it shouldn't take much time :) | 16:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Tiago Pasqualini da Silva proposed openstack/manila: Fixed Hitachi HNAS slow test https://review.openstack.org/279187 | 17:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Tiago Pasqualini da Silva proposed openstack/manila: Add separate process for Data Service copy https://review.openstack.org/279164 | 17:07 |
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bswartz | vponomaryov: see my latest note? | 17:34 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: yes, agree, and already working on it | 17:35 |
bswartz | ok | 17:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Tiago Pasqualini da Silva proposed openstack/manila: Fixed Hitachi HNAS slow test https://review.openstack.org/279187 | 17:49 |
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ganso | bswartz: ping | 17:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Add ZFSonLinux share driver https://review.openstack.org/277192 | 18:08 |
tpsilva | zhongjun: ping | 18:08 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: fixed your concerns and uploaded new PS | 18:09 |
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gouthamr | vponomaryov: any further review/concerns about: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238572/ ? | 18:40 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: quotas? | 18:41 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: working on a separate patch for that.. | 18:41 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: so, you will be able to finish it before FPF? | 18:42 |
gouthamr | bswartz thought we might need some more discussion around quotas | 18:42 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: yes sir | 18:42 |
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* gouthamr checks calendar - FPF is next week.. | 18:42 | |
gouthamr | :) | 18:42 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: if we implement quotas after replication, then we will have some problems with API versioning | 18:43 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: it will be possible to use replication microversion to bypass quotass | 18:43 |
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gouthamr | vponomaryov: not really. This won't be an APIImpact; | 18:44 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: so, if it is implemented as separate patch, then it should be same microversion anyway | 18:44 |
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gouthamr | vponomaryov: yes, it will be the same microversion for the quotas.. | 18:44 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: it will be security hole | 18:44 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: perhaps a different microversion for the admin APIs.. perhaps.. | 18:44 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: then ok | 18:44 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: thanks.. appreciate your review. | 18:45 |
gouthamr | cknight, xyang1, bswartz, ganso, toabctl, markstur: could you please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238572/ | 18:47 |
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vponomaryov | gouthamr: have you tested it with some driver that supports replication? NetApp? | 18:48 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: latest version | 18:49 |
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gouthamr | vponomaryov: yes | 18:59 |
gouthamr | the functional tests here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244843 have been run on it | 18:59 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: managed share does not get "replication_type" value | 18:59 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: only created one gets | 19:00 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: you mean the API? | 19:00 |
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vponomaryov | gouthamr: if I manage share with share-type and host that support replication, managed share has "None" value for replication_type | 19:01 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: and it is bug | 19:01 |
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gouthamr | vponomaryov: you mean, if the share-type has replication_type extra-spec on it? | 19:02 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: also, after its fix, need add tempest "mange" tests and verify in them that "manged" share has same value for "replication_type" as source one | 19:03 |
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vponomaryov | gouthamr: yes | 19:03 |
vponomaryov | s/mange/manage/ | 19:03 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: so extra_specs aren't getting copied in case of manage currently.. | 19:06 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: isn't that true about snapshot_support too? | 19:06 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: "snapshot_support" looks ok | 19:07 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: from firs sight | 19:07 |
vponomaryov | s/firs/first/ | 19:07 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: i was trying to run through the manage code; the extra_specs seem to not be copied to the share model like we're doing in case of create | 19:08 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: you confirm presense of the bug? | 19:09 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: i'll test it and file the bug if it exists | 19:09 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: don't want to upload new patch-set? )) | 19:09 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: downstream CI is broken for the moment.. regression testing any changes I make would have latency :S | 19:10 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: downstream CI ? | 19:11 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: broken? | 19:11 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: @NetApp, we use a fancy system ;) | 19:11 |
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bswartz | vponomaryov: we run all kinds of netapp-specific tests that can't go in upstream tempest because they do white box testing or test features that only exist in netapp driver | 19:15 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: so, you are ok merging replication commit with already known bugs? | 19:16 |
bswartz | other than lack of quotas, what known bugs are you thinking of? | 19:17 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: the one above -> managed shares do not get "replication_type" value | 19:17 |
bswartz | ah | 19:17 |
bswartz | yes I consider those 2 things missing features rather than bugs | 19:18 |
bswartz | it's experimental -- it's more important to have it usable so we can get feedback than to have everything perfect | 19:19 |
bswartz | the most important thing is that it doesn't break any existing feature | 19:19 |
bswartz | users who choose not to use replication should see NO negative impact from gouthamr's patch | 19:20 |
bswartz | if they do, then that's a bug that needs to be fixed | 19:20 |
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vponomaryov | bswartz, gouthamr: +2'ed replication | 19:24 |
gouthamr | thanks vponomaryov.. investigating the manage feature; will file a bug if i find one against existing code.. or submit a blueprint to make changes to mine. | 19:24 |
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dustins | gouthamr: Been looking at the patch myself, only thing that was glaring was the lack of DocImpact tag in the commit message | 19:40 |
dustins | Still going through, but I wanted to get that in before it got lost in the mix | 19:41 |
gouthamr | dustins: we're writing the adminref, devref, userguide, adminguide and api_site docs currently.. | 19:43 |
bswartz | tbarron: ping | 19:44 |
gouthamr | dustins: do you still think a DocImpact is necessary? | 19:44 |
dustins | gouthamr: I think so, just so it doesn't fall through the cracks | 19:44 |
dustins | Nice to have tracking on such things as well | 19:45 |
gouthamr | dustins: sure thing. will add it | 19:45 |
openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Share Replication API and Scheduler Support https://review.openstack.org/238572 | 19:45 |
dustins | gouthamr: Thanks! | 19:49 |
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openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/manila: Manage and unmanage snapshot https://review.openstack.org/249542 | 22:01 |
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openstackgerrit | ting wang proposed openstack/manila: replace string format arguments with function parameters https://review.openstack.org/278425 | 22:52 |
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