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| openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila: Fix not use provided version for "manage" tempest test https://review.openstack.org/305006 | 03:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila: Fix not use provided version for "manage" tempest test https://review.openstack.org/305006 | 06:59 |
| openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila: Add user_id echo in manila show/create/manage API https://review.openstack.org/298115 | 07:09 |
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| wangqun | Hi all, Can manila now plugin to docker container as docker storage? | 08:16 |
| wangqun | Can anyone tell me? | 08:17 |
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| wangqun | ping lpetrut | 08:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Add snapshot instances admin APIs in CLI https://review.openstack.org/304449 | 08:32 |
| wangqun | ping zhongjun | 08:41 |
| lpetrut | wangqun: Hi | 08:48 |
| wangqun | Hi | 08:48 |
| wangqun | Can manila now plugin to docker container as docker storage? | 08:48 |
| wangqun | Do you know? Thanks | 08:49 |
| lpetrut | basically, you mean using docker containers as share servers, right? | 08:51 |
| vponomaryov | tbarron, gouthamr: just use "manila list --all- --columns name,project_id" | 08:52 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: manila project does not have "docker" driver yet | 08:52 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: it is under development now | 08:52 |
| wangqun | No | 08:53 |
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| wangqun | I want to make manila project to mount to docker host. | 08:53 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: you can mount any manila share to any place where you have network connectivity | 08:54 |
| wangqun | Make manila project to mount to docker host as docker backend share storage. | 08:54 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: your question is for "docker" project then | 08:54 |
| wangqun | Yes | 08:54 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: or its configuration | 08:54 |
| wangqun | I now don't know how to mount manila to docker host. | 08:55 |
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| vponomaryov | wangqun: why manila? you mount shares | 08:55 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: manila is the "thing" that creates "shares" for you | 08:55 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: then you use it elsewhere you want | 08:56 |
| wangqun | Ohh.. | 08:56 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: and "manila share" has no real difference than manually created share on some machine | 08:56 |
| wangqun | Is it that I can mount the share manila created to docker ? | 08:57 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: are you familiar with "shares" concept ingeneral? | 08:57 |
| wangqun | a little | 08:58 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: if docker can use shares, than it can use any share, manila created ones too | 08:58 |
| wangqun | Yes. I know it. Manila can help us to create the different kind share. | 08:59 |
| wangqun | I can use the share to mount to the docker. | 08:59 |
| wangqun | Am I right? | 09:00 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: itis not correct to say "mount to docker" | 09:01 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: to docker "container" - you should be able mount any share for which you have appropriate client installed | 09:01 |
| vponomaryov | wangqun: like "NFS client" | 09:01 |
| wangqun | Yes. I know | 09:02 |
| vponomaryov | then what is the question? )) | 09:02 |
| wangqun | Thanks to tell me these. I know it. | 09:02 |
| wangqun | Thank you vponomaryov to explain it. | 09:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila-image-elements: Add tox job for building Docker image https://review.openstack.org/305681 | 09:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Add Grenade support to Manila https://review.openstack.org/302801 | 10:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Add Grenade support to Manila https://review.openstack.org/302801 | 10:46 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz, madorn: latest horizon and manila UI works OK as of today | 11:47 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: did you fix something or do you think something is wrong with madorn's config? | 12:23 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: I verified that it works | 12:23 |
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| bswartz | any idea what could have caused the issue he saw in horizon logs? "ImportError: No module named manila_ui.dashboards" | 12:24 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: incorrectly set up env, the cause for "incorrect set up" should be debugged | 12:25 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: horizon does not have it in its env | 12:26 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: so, manual setup of manila_ui in horizon's env should fix problem | 12:26 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: to get it working fast | 12:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Add Grenade support to Manila https://review.openstack.org/302801 | 12:39 |
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| ganso | vponomaryov: ping | 12:51 |
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| vponomaryov | ganso: hello | 13:21 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: Hi Valeriy. Could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299332 when you have some free time? I addressed your concerns | 13:22 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: as you wish | 13:23 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: done | 13:33 |
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| ganso | vponomaryov: thanks! :D | 13:39 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: ping | 13:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: Fix doc build if git is absent https://review.openstack.org/304994 | 13:43 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: pong (in a meeting if slow ...) | 13:43 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: oh.. np.. goodmorning! was just scrolling through irc logs and found this: "vponomaryov tbarron, gouthamr: just use "manila list --all- --columns name,project_id"" | 13:43 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: vponomaryov: yes, ty ^^^^ | 13:44 |
| gouthamr | yes, ty vponomaryov | 13:44 |
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| vponomaryov | glad to share some more kung-fu )) | 13:45 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: vponomaryov: i think it's still worth displaying project-id (and probably user id) for shares when --all-tenants is chosen (without having to list the columns) | 13:45 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: haha | 13:45 |
| tbarron | that way we don't have to keep telling mortal cloud admins the kung-fu all the time | 13:46 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: i agree.. it would be worth it... | 13:46 |
| tbarron | but now not urgent issue | 13:46 |
| bswartz | tbarron: this implies there's no problem with the server -- it's just a client bug | 13:46 |
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| tbarron | bswartz: agree | 13:46 |
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| vponomaryov | tbarron: kung-fu is unavoidable in the OpenStack world | 13:48 |
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| vponomaryov | tbarron: but I agree it would be really nice to have "projct_id" exactly in case of "all-tenants" | 13:48 |
| tbarron | vponomaryov: yes, vponomaryov-san :-) | 13:49 |
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| vponomaryov | actually it is our technical debt - other client have it | 13:49 |
| vponomaryov | s/client/clients/ | 13:50 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: quick q regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299332/ | 13:51 |
| bswartz | you know kung-fu is a Chinese art, and -san is a Japanese suffix.... | 13:51 |
| tbarron | bswartz: i was mistakenly thingking kung-fu was japanese, my bad. | 13:52 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: ping | 13:55 |
| ganso | gouthamr: pong | 13:55 |
| gouthamr | ganso: hi! quick q regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299332/ | 13:56 |
| ganso | gouthamr: shoot | 13:56 |
| gouthamr | ganso: when migration_start is implemented by a driver and the migration goes through fine.. do you expect the new 'host' field to be set as part of the model update? | 13:57 |
| ganso | gouthamr: yes | 13:58 |
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| tbarron | on the subject of tech debt, imo it would be helpful to have a 'manila quota-usage' command as there | 13:58 |
| tbarron | is in cinder | 13:58 |
| tbarron | vponomaryov: bswartz: gouthamr: make sense ^^^ ? | 13:58 |
| gouthamr | ganso: ah.. okay.. suggest adding a note to the driver.py docstring.. could be another patch.. | 13:58 |
| ganso | gouthamr: feel free to downvote | 13:59 |
| * tbarron has a customer who is pushing him into murky quota-land | 13:59 | |
| vponomaryov | tbarron: agree, nice-to-have too | 14:00 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: +1 | 14:00 |
| gouthamr | ganso: actual q regarding this patch.. you don't create a new share instance unless it is generic migration | 14:00 |
| gouthamr | ganso: is that correct? | 14:00 |
| ganso | gouthamr: yes | 14:01 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: awesome, thanks.. i'll add a note to the existing patch :) | 14:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila: Fix microversion usage in share manage functional tests https://review.openstack.org/305006 | 15:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Make devstack functions support grenade https://review.openstack.org/305952 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Make devstack functions support grenade https://review.openstack.org/305952 | 15:52 |
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| ganso | gouthamr: ping | 16:07 |
| gouthamr | ganso: pong | 16:07 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I saw your comments in the migration patch | 16:07 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I partially disagree about the LOG.debug that should be changed to LOG.info | 16:07 |
| gouthamr | ganso: sure.. why :) | 16:08 |
| ganso | gouthamr: from the user point of view it should not really matter if generic migration or driver optimized migration is used | 16:08 |
| gouthamr | ganso: you mean administrator? | 16:08 |
| ganso | gouthamr: yes | 16:08 |
| gouthamr | ganso: that could be true.. | 16:09 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: i care, administrator may not.. agree. | 16:09 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I believe admin will at first look for the succeed message (which is info) or error messages, the debug is additional detail | 16:09 |
| gouthamr | ganso: true... but debug logging may be disabled.. | 16:10 |
| ganso | gouthamr: yup, and that seems ok to me to not print that message in that case | 16:10 |
| gouthamr | ganso: if administrators should not need that detail, it can be debug.. | 16:10 |
| ganso | gouthamr: that's what I thought when I was codin | 16:10 |
| gouthamr | ganso: makes sense.. | 16:11 |
| ganso | gouthamr: also, regarding the model updates | 16:11 |
| ganso | gouthamr: possibly very paranoid of me | 16:11 |
| ganso | gouthamr: but I preferred to do that because I was more fond of updating the model where the fields are not proxified | 16:12 |
| gouthamr | ganso: but that one is.. | 16:12 |
| gouthamr | ganso: 'task_state'.. | 16:12 |
| ganso | gouthamr: it is not | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Make devstack functions support grenade https://review.openstack.org/305952 | 16:13 |
| ganso | gouthamr: share_update for task_state, and share_instance_update for status | 16:13 |
| ganso | gouthamr: status is not in share model (proxified) | 16:13 |
| ganso | gouthamr: and task_state is only in share model, not share_instance (not proxified, does not exist at all) | 16:13 |
| gouthamr | ganso: oh darn. my bad.. | 16:14 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I have not tried, but I think your suggestion would not work | 16:14 |
| ganso | gouthamr: at first I thought you were suggesting a share_update, but then I looked again | 16:14 |
| gouthamr | ganso: no.. you're right.. i assumed task_state was part of the instance. | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Add Grenade support to Manila https://review.openstack.org/302801 | 16:17 |
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| ganso | gouthamr: btw, have you ever thought that the Manager should be in charge or performing the model update that changes the host? | 16:20 |
| gouthamr | ganso: i would think so.. yeah.. because delegating that to the driver would involve policing the driver in a code review.. (as is the case with some replication actions) | 16:21 |
| gouthamr | ganso: this may not be one of those cases.. but when we wrote stuff for 'writable' style of replication, i was always wary of how much tempest tests could deliver in terms of drivers not updating something.. | 16:22 |
| ganso | gouthamr: back then when I coded this, inspired by cinder, the manager was not doing such model update... now it is... and I agree that the manager should do it | 16:23 |
| gouthamr | ganso: yep.. cinder does a lot of model updates.. | 16:23 |
| gouthamr | ganso: but then we were also thinking of a possibility of extending a db handle to drivers to do the necessary updates.. | 16:24 |
| ganso | gouthamr: this has been discussed in Manila in the past | 16:25 |
| ganso | gouthamr: but it seems it hasn't needed that much | 16:25 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: yes, came up again with replication and snapshots | 16:25 |
| gouthamr | ganso: we could allow the model update, but specifically update things the manager knows need updating.. such as the host, status, task_state in this case.. | 16:26 |
| ganso | gouthamr: yes, like "db_helper.update_host(value)" | 16:27 |
| ganso | gouthamr: most likely update_host(share_id, value) hehe | 16:27 |
| gouthamr | ganso: yep.. that would be very simplistic and might serve some purposes.. like in cases where we have a series of actions that the driver performs for something and would like to keep updating some values in the DB.. (as it makes sense) | 16:28 |
| gouthamr | ganso: you mean update_host(id, value) <-- share_id is a nono , lol | 16:29 |
| ganso | gouthamr: well lol I think we would need to figure out a way to restrict | 16:30 |
| gouthamr | ganso: sure thing. can add to austin discussion. | 16:30 |
| ganso | gouthamr: same for private storage... IIRC, after a recent change, driver can now change value of other driver if it knows the key | 16:30 |
| gouthamr | ganso: yep.. | 16:31 |
| ganso | gouthamr: evil drivers xD | 16:31 |
| gouthamr | ganso: this paranoia is justified when you have that one out-of-tree driver that wants to do things differently 8) | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Jin Li proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Add Unit Tests for manila_config type https://review.openstack.org/304955 | 16:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Trevor McCasland proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Deprecate managing of rabbitmq resources https://review.openstack.org/305981 | 16:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Fix Share status when driver migrates https://review.openstack.org/299332 | 17:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Add doc for Share Replication https://review.openstack.org/300018 | 18:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Add doc for Share Replication https://review.openstack.org/300018 | 18:20 |
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| bswartz | tbarron: ping | 19:29 |
| tbarron | bswartz: pong | 19:29 |
| bswartz | tbarron: you're alluded to the dark world of quotas a number of times | 19:29 |
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| bswartz | I just realized we have a working session in Austin to discuss quotas, and no leader currently | 19:29 |
| bswartz | s/you're/you've/ | 19:30 |
| bswartz | do you have your own issues to bring to that session? | 19:30 |
| bswartz | do you have any interest in leading the session? | 19:30 |
| tbarron | well, I'm just learning how it works. manila inherited from cinder which inherited from nova. each have gone their own ways to some extent. it would be good to review reasons for conscious divergences that manila has taken, | 19:31 |
| tbarron | while recognizing that some of what is there is likely just historical or accidental. | 19:32 |
| bswartz | I don't think we've consciously diverged at all | 19:32 |
| bswartz | Any divergence is likely to be accidental | 19:32 |
| tbarron | I can lead the session but I don't know if my own exploration of likenesses and differences and puzzles I have will be of general interest. | 19:33 |
| tbarron | but sure, sign me up. Others can add agenda stuff as they care to. | 19:33 |
| bswartz | cknight: I've copied the "executive summary" from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/design/manila-generic-groups into the official description for your fishbowl session | 19:34 |
| bswartz | tbarron: vponomaryov and I already have a bunch of quota topics | 19:34 |
| bswartz | but vponomaryov won't be present to lead the session | 19:34 |
| bswartz | and I'm lazy..... | 19:34 |
| bswartz | lol | 19:34 |
| tbarron | cool, I like learning kung fu anyways | 19:34 |
| bswartz | if you're interested in leading the session I might chat with you beforehand | 19:35 |
| tbarron | yeah. I could probably drop by netapp next week sometime if that would be useful. | 19:35 |
| tbarron | you are of course welcome to visit my office, or we could bluejeans conference, etc. | 19:36 |
| dustins | I think I still owe bswartz lunch for something or other, if that sweetens the deal for our office :) | 19:41 |
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| bswartz | dustins: actually I think I owe you something | 19:42 |
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| dustins | bswartz: I can't remember any more, haha | 19:49 |
| dustins | bswartz: At the least, we'll have to grab a beverage in Austin | 19:50 |
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| bswartz | yes! | 19:55 |
| tbarron | dustins: I was inviting ben to my office, not the Tower. You are invited too. | 19:56 |
| dustins | tbarron: Either way, I'm in! | 19:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Add doc for Share Replication https://review.openstack.org/300018 | 20:12 |
| ganso | gouthamr: ping | 20:16 |
| gouthamr | ganso: pong | 20:16 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I noticed that in your document, in some places you use :term:`manila and in others just "manila", in the same file | 20:17 |
| ganso | gouthamr: like " replication type that manila supports" | 20:17 |
| ganso | gouthamr: shouldn't it use :term:`manila' everywhere? | 20:17 |
| gouthamr | ganso: do you prefer that? | 20:18 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I am not sure of which I prefer lol I am not picky about this | 20:18 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I just got confused by your change | 20:18 |
| gouthamr | ganso: im not happy about using :term: manila in the glossary a bunch of times.. | 20:18 |
| gouthamr | ganso: maybe i just link it once, the wikipedia way | 20:18 |
| gouthamr | :P | 20:18 |
| ganso | gouthamr: and I am now curious if it should or should not be | 20:18 |
| gouthamr | ganso: now that's an existential crisis, no? | 20:19 |
| ganso | gouthamr: lol no, I just don't have an opinion | 20:19 |
| gouthamr | ganso: :D | 20:19 |
| gouthamr | ganso: alright will make things consistent | 20:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: Add doc for Share Replication https://review.openstack.org/300018 | 22:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tin Lam proposed openstack/manila: [Doc] Update quick start guide to Mitaka release https://review.openstack.org/298015 | 23:51 |
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