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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Zhuang proposed openstack/manila: Add EMC Unity Driver for Manila https://review.openstack.org/312423 | 03:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila-ui: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/318468 | 07:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | NidhiMittalHada proposed openstack/manila: Remove retry logic from manage API https://review.openstack.org/315966 | 10:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: [Tempest] Try delete resources in cleanup only once https://review.openstack.org/306332 | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add spec for Share Migration Newton improvements https://review.openstack.org/315707 | 12:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add spec for Share Retype https://review.openstack.org/315708 | 12:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add spec for Share Migration Newton improvements https://review.openstack.org/315707 | 12:15 |
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| ganso | bswartz: ping | 12:57 |
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| zhongjun_ | ameade: ping | 13:54 |
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| ameade | zhongjun_: hey | 14:15 |
| zhongjun_ | ameade: hi, I saw your user message code. Does the driver can use your function to create a user message? | 14:16 |
| ameade | zhongjun_: yeah, it's probably better if the driver raises a specific message up to the manager and have the manager create the message | 14:18 |
| bswartz | zhongjun_: users are not supposed to know anything about the backend and if the backend were emitting specific messages it could break that abstratction | 14:19 |
| bswartz | zhongjun_: I agree with ameade that the manager should be sending the messages and the driver might trigger that through a well-known exception | 14:19 |
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| zhongjun_ | ameade, bswartz: It seems very reasonable. now I agree with ameade too.thanks | 14:25 |
| ameade | :) | 14:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andy Smith proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Add SASL and username oslo.messaging amqp parameters https://review.openstack.org/318720 | 14:42 |
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| DaiDV | hello everyone! Anyone can explain for me: why do we need both of manila and cinder ? can you compare cinder and manila? | 15:17 |
| DaiDV | thanks :D | 15:17 |
| bswartz | DaiDV: there's a meeting going on now -- happy to answer your question after the meeting | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | tbarron: yes that should be something admins can do | 16:00 |
| bswartz | tbarron: but the question is what mechanism | 16:01 |
| * gouthamr gets his lunch to this meeting | 16:01 | |
| vponomaryov | DaiDV: cinder provides "block" storage, manila provides "share file systems" | 16:01 |
| tbarron | so, #2 is admins turn off the 'make visible for all' checkbox. | 16:01 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: you should have had breakfast | 16:01 |
| tbarron | bswartz: that's what you just agreed to, right? | 16:01 |
| gouthamr | haha.. i eat, a lot | 16:01 |
| vponomaryov | tbarron: it is ok to let admins to disable it | 16:01 |
| ganso | tbarron: isn't that box only for admins anyway? | 16:01 |
| bswartz | ganso: no we've supported user-create public shares for a long time | 16:02 |
| ganso | bswartz: O_O | 16:02 |
| bswartz | created | 16:02 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: =) | 16:02 |
| ganso | bswartz: sounds fundamentally wrong | 16:02 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: no | 16:02 |
| bswartz | ganso: all it means is that other tenant can see the share in the REST API | 16:02 |
| vponomaryov | ganso: I am, as user may want to sahre my share to all in the world as readonly | 16:02 |
| bswartz | they can't modify it or necessarily access it -- that's up to the owner of the share | 16:02 |
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| ganso | oh I see, glad they need access. that would be terrible for volumes | 16:03 |
| bswartz | there's an ergonomics problem with listing of public shares -- potentially the list could be huge so you need a way to hide them | 16:03 |
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| bswartz | I think that you only see public shares if you ask to see them though, right?" | 16:04 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes, if everyone shares their share (pun intended), then people end up seeing what they don't want to see | 16:04 |
| bswartz | but to address tbarron's problem -- we need to make sure that there's a policy mechanism to prevent creation of public shares | 16:04 |
| bswartz | and ideally it should be easy to turn off the UI for it too | 16:05 |
| tbarron | so sgotliv will be posting some patches on these two subjects real soon now | 16:05 |
| bswartz | do we have a config file for manila-ui? | 16:05 |
| ganso | bswartz: oh so tbarron wants to remove the capability, not the visibility | 16:05 |
| tbarron | visibility and capability when admin sets config/policy appropriately | 16:06 |
| bswartz | yes he wants to give admins a switch they can use to flip off the public share functionality | 16:06 |
| markstur__ | wants the UI to not show things the users shouldn't see | 16:06 |
| tbarron | yeah, you can see why cloud admins would want this kind of thing. | 16:07 |
| bswartz | hopefully there's a place we can stick a config flag in the UI plugin and the code can just hide that checkbox | 16:07 |
| tbarron | so we'll have some patches to meet actual short term customer needs | 16:07 |
| bswartz | I don't hear any objection to making the UI customizable in this way | 16:07 |
| bswartz | tbarron: sounds like you're good to go | 16:07 |
| tbarron | we'd like to land them in a timely manner and at the same time think through arch issues for longer term if they come up | 16:07 |
| bswartz | DaiDV: okay the meeting is over how can I help? | 16:08 |
| tbarron | bswartz: ty! | 16:08 |
| DaiDV | Ok, I just try to install opensack mitala, and I see option2 : manila with driver. | 16:09 |
| bswartz | DaiDV: regarding cinder and manila -- initially we intended for there to be one project that handled both block storage and share file system storage, however the two types of storage a different enough that we decided it would be more productive to fork the cinder project and start a new project called manila for shared file systems | 16:09 |
| bswartz | tbarron: apologies for not ensuring that topic was first in the agenda -- I forgot about sgotliv's timezone issues | 16:10 |
| bswartz | I should have broken that out into its own agenda item | 16:11 |
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| tbarron | bswartz: not a problem, i appreciate you thinking of us though | 16:12 |
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| bswartz | tbarron: the problem was I didn't think -- if I had I would have done it differently | 16:12 |
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| bswartz | DaiDV: I don't understand if you're trying to deploy openstack or if you're a developer trying to write a driver | 16:13 |
| DaiDV | bswartz, I just try to deploy openstack. | 16:13 |
| DaiDV | bswartz, But if we not consider share a share/volume to multi instances, manila can do anything else that different with cinder? | 16:14 |
| bswartz | DaiDV: then for you it's a question of what type of storage you want for your applications | 16:14 |
| bswartz | DaiDV: there are fundamental differences between block storage and shared file systems | 16:15 |
| bswartz | one in particular is that block storage can be used by at most a single instance whereas shared file systems can be mounted by as many instances as you like | 16:15 |
| bswartz | also, block storage is just a virtual disk which you can format with any filesystem and use inside your OS -- shared file systems rely on network filesystem protocols like NFS or CIFS/SMB | 16:16 |
| bswartz | also the network connectivity for the two types of storage is dramatically different -- block storage is all hidden underneath the hypervisor and shared file system storage goes completely around the hypervisor, requiring the VM to have a network path to the storage | 16:19 |
| bswartz | I hope that helps -- I'm late to my next appointment and will bbl | 16:19 |
| DaiDV | many thanks. | 16:20 |
| DaiDV | I just have a new thing: In future, we can share a Share Instance on multi-cloud and cinder is not allow its! Is right? | 16:22 |
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| bswartz | well both cinder and manila could be used independently of openstack -- so in that sense sharing across clouds is not impossible | 16:44 |
| bswartz | however cinder works best in conjunction with nova providing storage for a single cloud | 16:45 |
| bswartz | manila shares can be access by anything which has a network path to the share | 16:45 |
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| bswartz | s/acccess/accessed/ | 16:45 |
| bswartz | so in practice is probably a lot easier to share data between clouds with something like manila -- although you'd be on you own to figure out the networking part of that | 16:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Add other-requirements.txt for bindep https://review.openstack.org/318805 | 17:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: [Doc] Update quick start guide to Mitaka release https://review.openstack.org/298015 | 17:53 |
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| gouthamr | tbarron: ping | 18:34 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: pong | 18:35 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: hi! have you used manila-ui on RDO? | 18:35 |
| tbarron | no, or at least not in a long time. i think dustins probably has? | 18:36 |
| tbarron | dustins: ^^^ | 18:36 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: i've just been using it w/ devstack | 18:36 |
| gouthamr | oh.. yep, i'm having trouble with integrating it with the horizon that comes installed. | 18:37 |
| gouthamr | dustins: maybe you know? | 18:37 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: what version? | 18:37 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: mitaka | 18:38 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: because it worked for me last time I tried | 18:38 |
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| bswartz | okay I didn't try mitaka | 18:38 |
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| dustins | I have tried it recently! | 18:39 |
| dustins | What's up with it gouthamr? | 18:39 |
| bswartz | dustins: he was doing pip install not yum install | 18:40 |
| gouthamr | dustins: i'll try yum install | 18:40 |
| bswartz | I think yum will work | 18:40 |
| bswartz | dustins: which repo has the manila RPMs? | 18:48 |
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| dustins | They should be in the Extras repo on CentOS | 18:48 |
| bswartz | dustins: command to enable that? | 18:49 |
| dustins | Should be by default, but if not I'll dig through my repos.d files | 18:49 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: sudo yum install openstack-manila-ui ? | 18:50 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: ah! yes | 18:50 |
| bswartz | okay | 18:50 |
| bswartz | those tricky redhat guys and their openstack- prefixes | 18:51 |
| tbarron | heh | 18:53 |
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| dustins | gouthamr: Get everything all situated? | 20:06 |
| gouthamr | dustins: yep... i think we need those steps here though: http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-rdo | 20:07 |
| dustins | For RDO? | 20:07 |
| gouthamr | dustins: yep.. apart from the readme on the github manila-ui repo, i didn't find any documentation to install manila-ui | 20:08 |
| dustins | Oh! | 20:08 |
| dustins | Yeah, there probably needs to be something for installing the UI | 20:08 |
| dustins | Though it's odd, I don't think there's a "generic" way to do so, most distros package it | 20:09 |
| gouthamr | dustins: http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-rdo/horizon-install.html#install-and-configure-components <--- this may be an alternate location too and we can crosslink; | 20:09 |
| dustins | Not a bad idea | 20:10 |
| dustins | Another thing to add to the list :P | 20:11 |
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| Amit_ | Hello Team , I have been having issues installaling openstack Manila on RHEL 7.0 RDO with following error | 20:41 |
| Amit_ | ERROR : Error appeared during Puppet run: 192.168.2.10_manila.pp Error: Could not prefetch glance_image provider 'glance': Execution of '/usr/bin/glance --os-tenant-name services --os-username glance --os-password 36e253b1ace04d10 --os-region-name RegionOne --os-auth-url http://192.168.2.10:35357/ image-show fa5e52ac-8782-466c-9a3e-c739c5091558' returned 1: id | 20:42 |
| Amit_ | following is the command executed | 20:42 |
| Amit_ | packstack --allinone --provision-demo=n --os-neutron-ovs-bridge-mappings=extnet:br-ex --os-neutron-ovs-bridge-interfaces=br-ex:em1 --os-neutron-ml2-type-drivers=vxlan,flat --os-manila-install=y --manila-generic-share-mount-path=MANILA_GENERIC_SHARE_MOUNT_PATH | 20:42 |
| Amit_ | Appreciate Any Help | 20:43 |
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| dustins | Amit_: Seems like a glance issue, can you try running that glance command that errored out just on the command line to see what the error is? | 20:47 |
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