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| openstackgerrit | jay.xu proposed openstack/manila: Add gateway in network_info https://review.openstack.org/306990 | 08:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tatiana Ovchinnikova proposed openstack/manila-ui: Clean Shares modal forms https://review.openstack.org/330475 | 08:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tatiana Ovchinnikova proposed openstack/manila-ui: Extend Share and Add Rule modals refactoring https://review.openstack.org/330504 | 09:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Marc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: Add neutron driver for binding https://review.openstack.org/283494 | 09:35 |
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| DaiDV | Hi, I proposed a new blueprint "resize-glusterfs-share". But I don't know how can I discuss with community about this blueprint? Please? | 09:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhaohua proposed openstack/manila: Implement replication support in huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/331586 | 09:54 |
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| zhongjun_ | DaiDV: You could add a topic in IRC meeting. link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 10:04 |
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| DaiDV | MSG zhongjun_ hi | 10:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramana Raja proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add spec for storing auth secrets in access map https://review.openstack.org/322971 | 10:37 |
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| mkoderer___ | vponomaryov: can you have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283494/17 - I added some more unit tests for the admin/single network part | 10:53 |
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| ganso | vponomaryov: | 13:21 |
| ganso | vponomaryov: ping | 13:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: Add user_id and project_id to snapshot APIs https://review.openstack.org/323547 | 13:26 |
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| mkoderer | cknight: about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283494/ - can you check my comment? I tried to not touch the other neutron classes as much as possible to ensure the old setup works fine | 13:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/331168 | 16:56 |
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| ganso | bswartz: ping | 19:52 |
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| bswartz | ganso: pong | 20:04 |
| ganso | bswartz: Hi Ben | 20:05 |
| ganso | bswartz: I just found a problem in mitaka migration code | 20:05 |
| bswartz | what kind of problem? | 20:05 |
| ganso | bswartz: which prevents any driver from properly implementing 2-phase optimized migration | 20:05 |
| ganso | bswartz: the fix requires adding an additional parameter to the API migration_complete | 20:06 |
| ganso | bswartz: it is missing the 'host' | 20:06 |
| ganso | bswartz: fallback migration does not need it | 20:06 |
| ganso | bswartz: but drivers do | 20:06 |
| ganso | bswartz: are we allowed to backport experimental API changes? | 20:06 |
| bswartz | but in Mitaka no driver actually implemented the optimized code path, right? | 20:06 |
| bswartz | so we can just fix this in newton | 20:07 |
| ganso | bswartz: sure, but what if vendors want to provide their customers with side-loaded drivers? | 20:07 |
| ganso | bswartz: in Mitaka | 20:07 |
| bswartz | ganso: then the side-loaded driver could also include the backported API change from newton | 20:08 |
| bswartz | I think an API change like what you're suggesting would be viewed as a feature | 20:09 |
| bswartz | even if we argued that it should have been there, the fact is that its absence isn't breaking anything upstream | 20:09 |
| ganso | bswartz: possibly, in gerrit it would be linked with a launchpad bug entry... and the description would state that it is impossible to use the feature without this fix | 20:09 |
| ganso | bswartz: indeed, it is not, because no drivers implemented it upstream | 20:10 |
| bswartz | so I think any backports of that feature/bugfix should also not go upstream -- but they can be made available to user and distros | 20:10 |
| ganso | bswartz: how would they be made available to user and distros if not merged in stable/mitaka? | 20:11 |
| bswartz | distros sometimes backport directly from master | 20:11 |
| bswartz | and sideloaded drivers can come from anywhere | 20:11 |
| ganso | bswartz: humm I see | 20:12 |
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| ganso | bswartz: ok, for newton, I believe this would imply a microversion bump, correct? | 20:13 |
| bswartz | yeah any API change should bump the microversion so that clients which expect to depend on the new argument can find out if the server understands that argument | 20:13 |
| bswartz | that applies to experimental and non-experimental features | 20:14 |
| ganso | bswartz: (I believe this microversion bump would make it even more complicated to backport) | 20:14 |
| bswartz | that's another argument against backporting | 20:14 |
| ganso | bswartz: ok, thanks! | 20:15 |
| bswartz | if someone wanted to do a backport downstream they'd have to play games with the microversion | 20:15 |
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| ganso | bswartz: I believe they would definitely not want to do that | 20:30 |
| ganso | bswartz: btw, the fix itself requires a bump, but I am already bumping with another major newton patch that would come later | 20:30 |
| ganso | bswartz: this fix would only allow drivers to immediately work on their implementation in advance | 20:31 |
| ganso | bswartz: so that would be two microversion bumps... or have only one patch that includes the fix and comes later in newton along with all the major changes | 20:31 |
| ganso | bswartz: what do you think? | 20:32 |
| ganso | bswartz: I am thinking there may hardly be any point for vendors to need this fix while there are so many changes incoming. There is a workaround that drivers can do. | 20:35 |
| bswartz | 2 microversion bumps is no big deal | 20:37 |
| bswartz | every patch that changes the API should bump the version | 20:37 |
| bswartz | we could have 10 migration patches with 10 microversions in Newton and that shouldn't give anyone heartburn (except maybe we'd wonder why the API needed so many changes...) | 20:38 |
| bswartz | so go ahead and split the changes and push the small one in first | 20:38 |
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| ganso | bswartz: ok | 20:47 |
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