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| bswartz | dustins: could you elaborate? | 16:02 |
| dustins | bswartz: Just from my prospective, all of our test stuff internally has to have special cases already for Manila | 16:02 |
| bswartz | dustins: I thought redhat has something outside of tempest for downstream | 16:02 |
| dustins | Our downstream certification tests and such are all tempest-based | 16:03 |
| dustins | Because we don't have UUIDs for the tests, we can't track test cases the same way we can for most other projects | 16:03 |
| bswartz | dustins: including tests for projects that aren't in tempest and use plugins, like manila? | 16:03 |
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| bswartz | what is the purpose of test UUID? | 16:04 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: statistics | 16:04 |
| dustins | To track a test case independent of its implementation | 16:04 |
| dustins | Or location, more importantly | 16:04 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: when we change names of tests without any problems | 16:04 |
| bswartz | does the UUID change if the implementation of the test changes? | 16:04 |
| bswartz | okay | 16:04 |
| dustins | No | 16:04 |
| vponomaryov | but we have difference | 16:04 |
| vponomaryov | we use "ddt" | 16:04 |
| vponomaryov | that multiplies test | 16:04 |
| bswartz | if I split one test into 2, does one of the children get the parent's UUID or do they get re-IDd at that point? | 16:05 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: Cinder does as well, yeah? | 16:05 |
| vponomaryov | and UUId will be only one | 16:05 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: UUID is just decorator with some str | 16:05 |
| dustins | bswartz: I'd imagine two, since the old test case is deprecated and replaced with two new ones | 16:05 |
| bswartz | but you can't have to tests with the same UUID, presumably | 16:05 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: as developer set that wawy it will be | 16:05 |
| bswartz | have two* tests | 16:05 |
| vponomaryov | /wawy/way/ | 16:05 |
| dustins | bswartz: Correct | 16:05 |
| bswartz | so splitting a test must involve changing some ID | 16:06 |
| bswartz | anyways it's interesting, but it doesn't seem tied to tempest | 16:06 |
| bswartz | we could have test UUIDs with os-testr | 16:06 |
| dustins | Indeed, though remember that ostestr (as far as I know) is just a runner | 16:06 |
| vponomaryov | it was point for "special cases" | 16:06 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: do python-manilaclient tests use tempest? | 16:07 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: tempest.lib | 16:07 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: that is stable interface | 16:07 |
| bswartz | is it actually stable or is that something they just claim? | 16:07 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: both, for the moment | 16:08 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: also, in manilaclient we use our own tox job | 16:08 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: so, tempest's test discover does not run | 16:08 |
| bswartz | okay | 16:08 |
| bswartz | could we do something similar to that for manila itself? | 16:08 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it means we do not touch any tempest plugins | 16:08 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: I've had some interesting issues with the test discovery for tempest, haha | 16:08 |
| dustins | It looks like tempest will attempt to load all available plugins regardless of whether or not they're being used in the current test | 16:09 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: we could, but we should have plugin anyway | 16:09 |
| bswartz | all of this comes from the fact that devstack and tempest have broken our stable/liberty branch and I'm annoyed that it will be hard to fix | 16:09 |
| dustins | Caused some real headaches in testing :) | 16:09 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: it is problem of all entry points | 16:09 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: yes, it is ugly | 16:09 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: Yeah, my manila tests kept failing because the Neutron FWAAS tests couldn't load, haha | 16:10 |
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| vponomaryov | dustins: it is two-line fix for tempest source code | 16:10 |
| dustins | Oh? | 16:10 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: for downstream - easy | 16:10 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: yeah, and I faced it too, and was really unhappy to pull LATEST NEUTRON just because of that thing | 16:11 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: and just hacked tempest | 16:11 |
| bswartz | however I will say that I think about tempest alternatives every time they break us | 16:11 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: haha, I had to do a virtual environment with my testing that specifically only had Manila and Tempest to avoid plugin collisions | 16:12 |
| dustins | bswartz: Yeah, I feel you | 16:12 |
| dustins | bswartz: There's something I'm hoping to present a talk about in Barcelona with a QE colleague here | 16:12 |
| dustins | It might be an interesting alternative :D | 16:13 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: actually, we could contribute to tempest at least one small feature, that could allow us to avoid last two breakges | 16:14 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: this feature - possibility to disable /enable tempest plugins via either its config or CLI | 16:14 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: That would be awesome | 16:14 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it would be helpful for lots of people, not just us | 16:15 |
| dustins | I'm actually a bit surprised there ISN'T that functionality | 16:15 |
| vponomaryov | + one more feature - easy usage of test tags instead of ugly regexps | 16:15 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: yeah, no kidding, seeing some of the regexps out there... | 16:16 |
| dustins | Yikes | 16:16 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: if you think we can do that with minimal cost then perhaps it will solve our immediate issue and reduce the chance of future issues | 16:20 |
| bswartz | Regardless I think it's worth understanding the costs vs. the benefits of the current approach | 16:20 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: reduce for lots of people, not just us | 16:23 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: let's do it then | 16:23 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: that is what I really like, even we switch to something it willstay useful | 16:23 |
| dustins | Indeed | 16:25 |
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| xyang1 | gouthamr: can you help review this one again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315266/ | 18:54 |
| gouthamr | xyang1: yep. sure thing | 18:54 |
| xyang1 | gouthamr: thanks! | 18:54 |
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