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| mkoderer | vponomaryov: hi, can I get a review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346680/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349506/ | 10:45 |
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| mkoderer | ganso: ping | 12:29 |
| ganso | mkoderer: pong | 12:29 |
| mkoderer | ganso: I have a questions to migration from one share_type to another | 12:33 |
| ganso | mkoderer: sure, what is the question? | 12:34 |
| mkoderer | ganso: I think this can be very tricky for drivers since they have to implement for each capability what are the action that need to be performed | 12:34 |
| mkoderer | ganso: not sure if this is possible that easy | 12:35 |
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| ganso | mkoderer: indeed, it may not be that easy for drivers | 12:36 |
| ganso | mkoderer: for fallback it is very easy since it always creates a new share and copies data over | 12:37 |
| mkoderer | ganso: yeah - you know I am not a big fan of the generic way ;) | 12:37 |
| mkoderer | ganso: for us only driver supported migrations look intressting to be honest | 12:37 |
| ganso | mkoderer: for drivers that use replication or data migration mechanisms to migrate the share, when the driver notices that the value "share_type" of the new instance is different than the source, then it may have to do something completely different, like, not use any replication mechanisms, create a new share and copy data... thus being less effective (but | 12:38 |
| ganso | still most likely more effective than fallback) | 12:38 |
| ganso | mkoderer: this may vary from vendor to vendor. For Hitachi, it does not affect at all | 12:40 |
| mkoderer | ganso: yeah it's depending on the driver capabilities | 12:40 |
| mkoderer | but it also mean the migrate api also support a retype action.. = different share_type but same host, backend and pool | 12:41 |
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| ganso | mkoderer: yes, this was discussed at the midcycle | 12:45 |
| ganso | mkoderer: we agreed to allow some properties to be changed during migration, like host, share_network, az, and share_type | 12:45 |
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| mkoderer | tbarron: do you have a sec for a review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349506/ | 14:01 |
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| tbarron | mkoderer: I'm in meetings all morning so it will be more than a "sec" for 300 lines in 17 files :) but I just added it to my todo list for today. | 14:10 |
| mkoderer | tbarron: :) I know the problem | 14:11 |
| bswartz | ganso: what's up | 14:18 |
| ganso | bswartz: Hey Ben | 14:19 |
| ganso | bswartz: I was implementing the removal of 'complete' parameter from migration-start | 14:19 |
| ganso | bswartz: so I stumbled across the possible need for backwards compatibility | 14:19 |
| ganso | bswartz: right now microversion is planned to be 2.20 | 14:19 |
| bswartz | why? it's experimental | 14:19 |
| ganso | bswartz: we've had this discussion in the midcycle, some people mentioned that if it is not much effort, it is preferable to keep backwards compatibility even in experimental | 14:20 |
| bswartz | the whole point of experimental is that we don't guarantee backwards compatibility | 14:20 |
| ganso | bswartz: so this time is actually less effort to be backwards compatible than not to be | 14:20 |
| bswartz | explain how it's less effort | 14:20 |
| bswartz | ultimately we don't want this feature at all | 14:21 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes, but when migration is not experimental anymore, then all backwards compatibility will be wiped, we are not there yet | 14:21 |
| bswartz | the sooner we converge on the correct API the easier it will be to exit experimental | 14:21 |
| ganso | bswartz: the feature is there, it has a default value. Basically in 2.20 I will be removing the code that reads the value, and the default value becomes False, instead of True. That's it | 14:21 |
| bswartz | there's no reason to delay a change if we know we want it eventualy | 14:21 |
| ganso | bswartz: we may want it back later, as we discussed in the midcycle. Although, it will be for sure removed if migration is not experimental anymore while the latest version does not include the 'complete' parameter, as we agreed | 14:24 |
| bswartz | that's not how I recall things | 14:24 |
| ganso | bswartz: sorry, as we discussed in the *weekly meeting last week | 14:25 |
| bswartz | I suggested that the non-experimental version of the API is 2 phase only, and in the future we could bring back 1-phase if there was a strong use case for it | 14:25 |
| ganso | bswartz: exactly | 14:25 |
| bswartz | however to get to that place we need to make the existing API 2 phase only | 14:25 |
| ganso | bswartz: yes, it is 2-phase only now, for 2.20 | 14:26 |
| bswartz | and then we need to bless that API as non-experimental | 14:26 |
| ganso | bswartz: prior to 2.20, it offers possibility to be 1-phase | 14:26 |
| bswartz | okay so then what are we talking about? | 14:26 |
| ganso | bswartz: if I completely remove the code now for 2.20 (experimental), then 2.19 and prior to that will be broken | 14:27 |
| ganso | bswartz: right now changing the default value achieves what we want | 14:27 |
| ganso | bswartz: then, the patch to change it to non-experimental will be slightly bigger | 14:27 |
| ganso | bswartz: because it will be removing the backwards compatibility code as well | 14:27 |
| bswartz | if the code can be left in without affecting the rest API, then why would be remove it later on? | 14:28 |
| bswartz | either the code is harmless or it's not | 14:28 |
| bswartz | if it's harmless, we leave it in forever | 14:28 |
| bswartz | if it's not, then the sooner we remove it the better | 14:28 |
| bswartz | I really don't care about backward compatibility of an experimental feature | 14:29 |
| bswartz | in fact it might be good to make an example of an experimental feature that changes so people understand | 14:29 |
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| tpsilva | cknight: the HSP CI is waiting for the new PS... it'll work in a bit | 17:31 |
| cknight | tpsilva: good thanks. I'd like to see this one merge soon. | 17:31 |
| tpsilva | cknight: thanks for the reviews on both of our drivers, they're really helpful | 17:32 |
| cknight | tpsilva: np, glad to help. | 17:32 |
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