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| openstackgerrit | yuyafei proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Add __ne__ built-in function https://review.openstack.org/355157 | 08:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila: Implement share backup https://review.openstack.org/343980 | 09:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Erno Kuvaja proposed openstack/puppet-manila: [WIP] Add CephFSNative driver logic https://review.openstack.org/353928 | 09:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Erno Kuvaja proposed openstack/puppet-manila: [WIP] Add CephFSNative driver logic https://review.openstack.org/353928 | 10:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Dai Dang Van proposed openstack/manila: Implement extend and shrink features for glusterfs https://review.openstack.org/331389 | 10:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: Container driver https://review.openstack.org/308930 | 12:31 |
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| mkoderer__ | tbarron: ping | 12:49 |
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| tbarron | mkoderer__: pong | 12:58 |
| mkoderer__ | tbarron: just commented on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308930/78 | 13:03 |
| tbarron | mkoderer__: looking | 13:03 |
| mkoderer__ | tbarron: IMO we need to state that the driver is not for production usage and let it merge | 13:03 |
| mkoderer__ | currently we are blocking features that are network releated since all wait for this driver | 13:04 |
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| tbarron | mkoderer__: yeah, that fits with my understanding, i just want more or less what you said put in the devref for this driver. aovchinnikov already has gotten most of what I asked for. Then it can merge IMO. | 13:06 |
| mkoderer__ | tbarron: +1 | 13:07 |
| tbarron | mkoderer__: aovchinnikov downstream i want to be able to point to the devref when a product manager or customer wants to go a kilo too far with it | 13:07 |
| aovchinnikov | tbarron: ok, let's remove the gate part from known issues then | 13:09 |
| tbarron | mkoderer__: aovchinnikov sure, and would you open a bug for the concurrency issues as mkoderer__ suggests and put it in the commit msg as a related bug? | 13:10 |
| mkoderer__ | aovchinnikov: like here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349506/ | 13:12 |
| mkoderer__ | this fix also waits for the docker driver btw :P | 13:12 |
| tbarron | mkoderer__: point taken :) | 13:12 |
| aovchinnikov | tbarron: somehow I don't like the idea of registering bugs for non-existent features | 13:13 |
| tbarron | aovchinnikov: yeah, i just meant for the concurrency issue | 13:13 |
| tbarron | aovchinnikov: it's not a "feature" that one can run concurrently w/o breakage | 13:13 |
| aovchinnikov | tbarron: yes, but since there is no container driver in the main tree yet how one should refer to it in the bug description? | 13:14 |
| aovchinnikov | that is what I am concerned about | 13:14 |
| aovchinnikov | it seems a bit like "when we merge this feature we'll have this bug" to me | 13:15 |
| aovchinnikov | which probably means that we should not merge this feature in the first place, right? | 13:15 |
| tbarron | aovchinnikov: i see, well i was just trying to log technical debt as we commit. | 13:16 |
| tbarron | aovchinnikov: no, we should merge this but very clearly state its limits currently. | 13:16 |
| mkoderer__ | aovchinnikov: tbarron: was the same for the "MTU feature" - I think the idea is that the bug is already assigned and clear whos doing it | 13:16 |
| aovchinnikov | on the other hand when the driver is in the tree then it is the right time to file it's bugs | 13:17 |
| tbarron | aovchinnikov: well I don't want to get stuck on process here. | 13:17 |
| tbarron | aovchinnikov: mkoderer__ does the devref now state exactly the intended scope for this driver and the known limitations? (I'm in the waiting room for a doc appt and have intermittent connectivity) | 13:18 |
| tbarron | aovchinnikov: mkoderer__ when you are confident we've scoped it right in the doc, let me know, i'll take one more look and very likely +W | 13:19 |
| tbarron | trying work together here - back in 10-20m | 13:19 |
| mkoderer__ | tbarron: thanks! | 13:21 |
| aovchinnikov | also I don't think it is a good idea to label it 'dev-only' in the docs | 13:23 |
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| mkoderer__ | aovchinnikov: would you say it's production ready? | 13:23 |
| gouthamr | I don't see anything wrong with labeling it dev only.. i like the idea until we iron out the concurrency issues that you note.. | 13:24 |
| aovchinnikov | no, it is not, but suppose we label it 'dev-only' now and improve it some time later | 13:24 |
| aovchinnikov | how are we going to undo the first impression? | 13:25 |
| gouthamr | release specific configuration reference, release notes can convey that as we go.. | 13:25 |
| aovchinnikov | so I believe it boils down to choosing of accurate wording | 13:25 |
| mkoderer__ | aovchinnikov: yes it's just about documentation and that's all | 13:26 |
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| mkoderer__ | gouthamr: did you test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355254/1 with a jumbo frame setup? | 13:27 |
| mkoderer__ | gouthamr: I added a user-story for our team to verify it end2end.. | 13:28 |
| gouthamr | mkoderer__: i've verified it sets the MTU value on the VLAN ports; haven't done end to end testing yet.. ONTAP would lie? :) | 13:28 |
| gouthamr | mkoderer__: just kidding.. nice! i actually dunno how to verify jumbo frames are supported. how would you do that? | 13:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: Container driver https://review.openstack.org/308930 | 13:30 |
| aovchinnikov | ok, here it goes | 13:30 |
| mkoderer__ | gouthamr: yeah I think there are way's with pings to verfify packages are not fragmeneted somewhere | 13:30 |
| mkoderer__ | gouthamr: need to ask my network guru's | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Accela Zhao proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Add driver private storage admin API https://review.openstack.org/336581 | 13:32 |
| mkoderer__ | gouthamr: iperf would be also a solution | 13:32 |
| gouthamr | mkoderer__: thanks, will take a look.. | 13:33 |
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| mkoderer__ | gouthamr: ping -M do -s 9000 <NetApp box> | 13:45 |
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| tbarron | bswartz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308930/79 can get your +2 back and prob +W now | 13:59 |
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| bswartz | tbarron: ty | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Accela Zhao proposed openstack/manila: Driver private data admin API https://review.openstack.org/315346 | 14:27 |
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| mkoderer__ | xyang1: ping | 14:49 |
| xyang1 | mkoderer__: hi | 14:53 |
| mkoderer__ | xyang1: I am not sure about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315346/ | 14:54 |
| mkoderer__ | xyang1: do we really want to extend the api with driver specific extra specs? | 14:54 |
| xyang1 | mkoderer__: I think it is useful to have a way to validate those data | 14:55 |
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| mkoderer__ | xyang1: IMHO the openstack API should be seen as abstraction layer for different vendors/drivers | 14:56 |
| xyang1 | mkoderer__: this is an abstraction, one api to retrieve the data | 14:56 |
| mkoderer__ | xyang1: yeah that's the typical vendor trick to lock you in.. just definde the interface broad engough ;) | 14:57 |
| xyang1 | mkoderer__: I don't get what you meant. this is just a generic api to read data | 14:58 |
| mkoderer__ | xyang1: 1.) the data is named "private" and is now availible trough api | 14:59 |
| xyang1 | mkoderer__: it is admin api | 14:59 |
| xyang1 | mkoderer__: admin should be allowed to read private data | 15:00 |
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| mkoderer__ | xyang1: but it's "private" driver data nodody should really care about | 15:00 |
| mkoderer__ | xyang1: 2.) for me changing the api just because of 3rd CI testing isn't a good enough reason | 15:01 |
| xyang1 | mkoderer__: I don't agree nobody should care about it. if it is saved, it is useful | 15:01 |
| mkoderer__ | xyang1: e.g. there is alot in neutron that isn't publish in the api. And all vendor specific tables aren't readable api-wise | 15:03 |
| xyang1 | mkoderer__: I don't know hiw neutron makes decisions, but this api is useful for manila | 15:05 |
| mkoderer__ | xyang1: ok I just wanted to raise my doubts - I am fine if others do see it differently | 15:05 |
| xyang1 | mkoderer__: ok, thanks for reviewing and raises your concerns | 15:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/manila: Fix sample config generation for cinder,nova and neutron opts https://review.openstack.org/355517 | 15:06 |
| mkoderer__ | yeah docker driver is merging :) | 15:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tatiana Ovchinnikova proposed openstack/manila-ui: Additional fields for Create/Update Share Type forms https://review.openstack.org/338504 | 16:46 |
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| bswartz | tbarron: do you know what phusion is? | 19:30 |
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| tbarron | bswartz: no, guessing is it this? https://github.com/phusion/baseimage-docker | 19:33 |
| bswartz | tbarron: yeah it | 19:33 |
| bswartz | tbarron: yeah it's an off-the-shelf container image which has an init system with systemd built in, which we need for the container driver | 19:34 |
| bswartz | it happens to be ubuntu based | 19:34 |
| tbarron | yeah | 19:34 |
| bswartz | I'd love to know if a fedora-based container exists which has an init system like phusion | 19:34 |
| bswartz | or centos even | 19:35 |
| tbarron | yeah, I'll see what I can find out | 19:36 |
| tbarron | so phusion does both upstart and systemd type init? | 19:37 |
| tbarron | I ask b/c in the docker driver review I asked if it works with xenial and that hasn't been checked yet. | 19:37 |
| bswartz | well I don't know that detail, and honestly it's not relevant | 19:37 |
| bswartz | what matters is that there's an init system | 19:37 |
| tbarron | Not a blocker, but when infra wants to convert to Xenial it will be relevant, no? | 19:37 |
| bswartz | it's quite common for containers to be single-app and to have no init system | 19:37 |
| tbarron | right | 19:38 |
| bswartz | but we require an init system for the container behind our manila container driver | 19:38 |
| bswartz | I seriously doubt xenial will cause any issues | 19:38 |
| tbarron | i guess if the init system is inside the contaiiner it's insulaated from what infra does w.r.t. 14.04 vs xenial anyways | 19:38 |
| bswartz | yes | 19:38 |
| tbarron | ok | 19:39 |
| bswartz | aside from the kernel version, very little matters outside the container | 19:39 |
| tbarron | right | 19:39 |
| bswartz | Honestly I'd be more concerned about changes in docker itself between trusty->xenial | 19:39 |
| bswartz | docker is rapidly evolving and could have broken something we depend on | 19:39 |
| tbarron | that makes sense | 19:45 |
| tbarron | so I just put in a request to a guy who left our storage group at redhat to work on containers what he knows and will let you know what I find out. | 19:45 |
| tbarron | It would be cool to be able to run a devstack in fedora or centos or rhel with the container driver in order to be able to work on DHSS=true code w/o having a netapp backend :) but atm that's not a high prio/necessity from my POV. Gate is ubuntu and the main point of the container driver is to enable upstream testing in gate. | 19:48 |
| tbarron | and we don't have any hard dependency issues introduced. | 19:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: Container driver https://review.openstack.org/308930 | 21:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/puppet-manila: Add authtoken class https://review.openstack.org/351792 | 21:05 |
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