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| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add spec for Scenario tests https://review.openstack.org/374731 | 11:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Marc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: Remove tempest.test usage from manila tests https://review.openstack.org/374719 | 11:46 |
| mkoderer | vponomaryov: btw I am trying to get rid of as much tempest dependencies as possible - I started with tempest.test | 11:48 |
| mkoderer | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374719/ | 11:48 |
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| vponomaryov | mkoderer: direct call of testtools is too long | 11:57 |
| vponomaryov | mkoderer: better to port it to our base class | 11:57 |
| vponomaryov | that is imported always | 11:57 |
| mkoderer | vponomaryov: you mean the decorator is too long? | 11:58 |
| vponomaryov | mkoderer: yes | 11:58 |
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| mkoderer | vponomaryov: I could just import testcase .. would be shorter | 11:59 |
| mkoderer | or I'll put it to the base | 12:00 |
| mkoderer | let's see | 12:00 |
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| ganso | gouthamr: ping | 13:44 |
| gouthamr | ganso: hey Rodrigo! | 13:44 |
| ganso | gouthamr: Hi Goutham! good morning | 13:44 |
| ganso | gouthamr: so you had a question for me yesterday? | 13:44 |
| gouthamr | ganso: Goodmorning! yes.. :) | 13:44 |
| ganso | gouthamr: np, I have a few for you today :P | 13:45 |
| gouthamr | ganso: so, in the migration API, we don't allow shares with snapshots to be migrated | 13:45 |
| gouthamr | ganso: haha | 13:45 |
| ganso | gouthamr: yes, we don't | 13:45 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: if driver assisted migration is chosen, we *should* be able to move snapshots too.. | 13:46 |
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| ganso | gouthamr: if all drivers are able to do that, yes... | 13:46 |
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| mkoderer | means the end-user has to delete all snapshots in case of the generic implementation? | 13:47 |
| gouthamr | mkoderer: yessir | 13:48 |
| mkoderer | and also the shares created with --snapshot-id? | 13:48 |
| gouthamr | mkoderer ganso: in case of driver-assisted too, for the moment.. i was hoping we can get that sorted in Ocata :) | 13:49 |
| ganso | gouthamr: so, we have the problem of guaranteeing that all drivers are capable. Then, if we want the driver-assisted and host-assisted to have a consistent API, then we cannot have this feature if host-assisted is not capable of, even if driver-assisted is | 13:49 |
| gouthamr | mkoderer: no such restriction applies at the API.. | 13:50 |
| gouthamr | mkoderer: you should be able to move data from a share created through a snapshot, with host and driver assisted modes.. | 13:50 |
| gouthamr | ganso: yeah, this is almost like preserve-metadata, no? | 13:51 |
| ganso | yes, it is a totally new and considered to be independent share | 13:51 |
| ganso | gouthamr: yes, could be seen as similar to preserve-metadata | 13:51 |
| ganso | gouthamr: but we would need to control it | 13:51 |
| ganso | gouthamr: like '--preserve-snapshots' | 13:52 |
| gouthamr | ganso: sure i think that's sane.. with replication though, the design states that you need to be able to take snapshots to replicas.. | 13:53 |
| ganso | gouthamr: replication is solely dependent on drivers | 13:53 |
| gouthamr | ganso: true.. | 13:54 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: replication doesn't need to support snapshots... | 13:55 |
| gouthamr | ganso: thanks.. we can discuss this with any improvements in Ocata... It would be nice to have; | 13:55 |
| ganso | gouthamr: we will definitely have a few improvements to do in Ocata | 13:55 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: replication just has to support on the replicas everything the active replica supports | 13:55 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: true.. i mean, if snapshots are supported, they should be replicated.. | 13:55 |
| ganso | gouthamr: thanks for the feedback :) | 13:55 |
| bswartz | yes | 13:55 |
| gouthamr | ganso: np! your turn.. | 13:56 |
| ganso | gouthamr: lol ok | 13:56 |
| ganso | gouthamr: so I was creating the share migration docs | 13:56 |
| ganso | gouthamr: started with the devrefd | 13:56 |
| ganso | gouthamr: *devref | 13:56 |
| gouthamr | nice... | 13:57 |
| ganso | gouthamr: my understanding is that the devref is aimed at developers which would like to understand how the feature works to implement in their driver or to contribute | 13:57 |
| gouthamr | ganso: yes.. | 13:58 |
| ganso | gouthamr: but most of the devref docs I've seen seems targeted at operators/administrators and don't describe many details that should be more relevant to developers | 13:58 |
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| gouthamr | ganso: true.. as vponomaryov mentioned, we're also using our devref as scratch-space before taking content to user guide/admin guide/config ref in the openstack-manuals project | 13:59 |
| ganso | gouthamr: ok so I assume I am in the right direction... and I will prepare a different version aimed at administrators | 14:01 |
| gouthamr | ganso: this aims at driver authors: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/manila/devref/share_replication.html | 14:01 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I noticed there is a folder admin-ref, I will upload the admin one to that | 14:01 |
| gouthamr | ganso: sure.. eventually user/admin facing documentation needs to go into the respective guide in openstack-manuals.. | 14:01 |
| ganso | gouthamr: weird, where is that document hosted? it isn't https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/doc/source/devref/share_replication.rst, right? | 14:03 |
| gouthamr | ganso: it is.. but github's rst rendering can't understand sphinx.. | 14:04 |
| gouthamr | ganso: look at the raw file for any missing content. | 14:04 |
| ganso | gouthamr: hummm, yea I noticed that it is expanded on docs.openstack.org | 14:04 |
| ganso | gouthamr: cool | 14:04 |
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| ganso | gouthamr: ok, other question | 14:05 |
| ganso | gouthamr: there is a very big problem in regards to using update_access only as "sync" as we discussed wrt that access_rules bugfix | 14:06 |
| ganso | gouthamr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1626523 | 14:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1626523 in Manila "Share is writable during host-assisted migration" [High,New] - Assigned to Rodrigo Barbieri (rodrigo-barbieri2010) | 14:06 |
| gouthamr | ganso: i was going to push up an update to that change shortly.. | 14:07 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I am trying to fix this problem in a proper way | 14:07 |
| gouthamr | ganso: "If you are quick enough, try to write some data in the share to confirm it is read only" | 14:07 |
| gouthamr | ganso: what does that mean.. | 14:08 |
| ganso | gouthamr: but I found out that the current design prevents that | 14:08 |
| ganso | gouthamr: what happens is that migration-start changes the access_rules to read-only only in the driver, not in the DB | 14:08 |
| * gouthamr wonders if he can be quick enough | 14:08 | |
| ganso | gouthamr: this works until a later request runs update_access again | 14:09 |
| ganso | gouthamr: update_access gets everything from DB and pass to driver, so it applies the RW rules back | 14:09 |
| ganso | gouthamr: at first, there is no problem because the API is blocked during 'migration' status | 14:09 |
| ganso | gouthamr: but the Data Service dodges the API and uses update_access to add a rule | 14:10 |
| gouthamr | ganso: oh.. so, any existing R/W rules are preserved/reverted if an update_access call comes in | 14:10 |
| ganso | gouthamr: yes | 14:10 |
| ganso | gouthamr: for drivers that do not use recovery mode all the time, this is ok, since only the new rule will be added | 14:10 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I did not detect this problem with the generic driver | 14:10 |
| ganso | gouthamr: because it is not affected | 14:11 |
| ganso | gouthamr: but other drivers are | 14:11 |
| gouthamr | ganso: so, it feels like this needs to be handled in the method that's changing all the access rules to read/only.. i.e, use a db helper to cast any existing r/w rules to read-only before calling update-access ? | 14:11 |
| ganso | gouthamr: yes, that was my first thought | 14:11 |
| ganso | gouthamr: except for the fact that the call should be async because it is coming from another service (the Data Service) | 14:12 |
| ganso | gouthamr: so the Data Service waits until the share_instance_access_rules_status is back to active | 14:12 |
| ganso | gouthamr: that's why it is following the approach of creating that rule in DB | 14:12 |
| ganso | gouthamr: so, by touching the DB, there are many things that must be done, which are done by access.update_access_rules, that's why it is invoked | 14:13 |
| ganso | gouthamr: like removing from db on deny, setting the instance status back to active, etc | 14:14 |
| ganso | gouthamr: so I am thinking of a way of fixing this but also not compromising your goal design | 14:14 |
| ganso | gouthamr: if the migration helper does all of this, having a lot of duplicated code, it will fix the issue | 14:15 |
| ganso | gouthamr: but it will be harder to maintain | 14:16 |
| gouthamr | ganso: hmmm, so you want to be able to invoke the API to allow_access_to_instance, and have the read-only rules committed to the database as well? | 14:17 |
| ganso | gouthamr: if update_acccess does this, to fix it right now, there is the possibility of adding a parameter that introduces this custom behavior to update_access when needed... it is less code and it is maintained along with other fixes and future designs, although it is a not a good looking approach | 14:17 |
| gouthamr | ganso: the parameter would be 'cast-to-readonly'? | 14:18 |
| ganso | gouthamr: no, the read-only rules do not need to be committed to the database, only the data service access rule | 14:18 |
| ganso | gouthamr: something like that | 14:18 |
| gouthamr | ganso: sounds reasonable.. but how will we be able to tell the difference between the data service IP and the rest of the rules? | 14:19 |
| gouthamr | ganso: you mean to make two separate RPCs? | 14:19 |
| ganso | gouthamr: the Data Service IP can be read only as well, it does not need to be different | 14:19 |
| gouthamr | ganso: oh yes, true.. cool, works for me.. i'll push up with the changes we discussed.. we can make a follow on patch for this bugfix dependent on this patch, where we have a new parameter to cast existing rules to read-only.. | 14:20 |
| ganso | gouthamr: ok, I should have the patch pushed up today as well | 14:21 |
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| mkoderer | dustins: dmellado: I started to reduce the tempest dependency in manila tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374719/ | 14:30 |
| mkoderer | dustins: dmellado: let me know if you guys want to help me on that and then we can use the etherpad to coordinate | 14:30 |
| dustins | mkoderer: This is part of the transition to using tempest.lib as well, yeah? | 14:31 |
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| dustins | mkoderer: and I'd love to help out if I can! | 14:37 |
| gouthamr | bswartz: hi! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355257/ needs your attention.. | 14:43 |
| gouthamr | and looking forward for someone to take pity and +W https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359491/ :P | 14:43 |
| ganso | gouthamr: I haven't +W'ed so other people could take a look | 14:45 |
| gouthamr | ganso: yes :) thanks for the review.. i was hoping i could ask for volunteers to play around with our installation instructions on the ML - the core projects are being covered by the docs team.. | 14:46 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov, tbarron, cknight, markstur, xyang_, ganso: ^ | 14:51 |
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| xyang_ | bswartz: thanks | 14:54 |
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| dustins | Hey all, I finished up the Etherpad for all of the docs that we need to have a look at | 19:19 |
| dustins | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton_documentation_blitz | 19:19 |
| dustins | I'll be sending out an email to the list to get a wider audience, but if you wanna jump on the bandwagon now, all the better :) | 19:19 |
| dustins | Of top priority are the installation guides for openSuse/SLES, RHEL and CentOS, and Ubuntu, as well as the "Steps to Perform" section of the Administration Reference | 19:20 |
| dustins | Please let me know if you have any questions! | 19:20 |
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| jay-mehta | xyang_, bswartz , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369763/ Since this patch does not have string translation now, can it merge in newton | 21:36 |
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| jay-mehta | xyang_, thank you for reviewing. I think the patch does not have +1 for workflow and so it getting merged. Am I right? | 21:58 |
| jay-mehta | so it is NOT * | 21:58 |
| xyang_ | jay-mehta: need to ask bswartz about it. It looks okay to me. | 21:59 |
| xyang_ | jay-mehta: bswartz had asked us to be careful on what to be merged, so I need to check with him before merging anything | 21:59 |
| xyang_ | jay-mehta: also this will be merged in master. you'll need to backport to get to newton | 22:00 |
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| jay-mehta | xyang_, thanks | 22:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Fix share writable in host-assisted migration https://review.openstack.org/375047 | 22:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila-ui: Fix migration-start id-dependent form https://review.openstack.org/375164 | 23:49 |
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