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openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Base Data Copy changes https://review.openstack.org/329174 | 00:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Driver Data Service Helper https://review.openstack.org/295836 | 00:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add spec for Share Migration Ocata improvements https://review.openstack.org/392291 | 00:26 |
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openstackgerrit | zhongshengping proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Fix common options position in params.pp https://review.openstack.org/394704 | 00:36 |
openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs: Manila db purge utility https://review.openstack.org/392406 | 00:45 |
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openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add the ability to check the tenant quota in detail https://review.openstack.org/390052 | 02:46 |
openstackgerrit | TommyLike proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add the ability to check the quota-set in detail https://review.openstack.org/390052 | 02:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Pony Chou proposed openstack/manila: Add QNAP Manila Driver https://review.openstack.org/394703 | 03:33 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/394094 | 03:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Zhuang proposed openstack/manila: Add "update_access" interface support for VNX. https://review.openstack.org/395404 | 05:27 |
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openstackgerrit | zhongshengping proposed openstack/manila: Change cfg.set_defaults into cors.set_defaults https://review.openstack.org/395418 | 06:48 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila-ui: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/395425 | 07:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Pony Chou proposed openstack/manila: Add QNAP Manila Driver https://review.openstack.org/394703 | 07:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Tiago Pasqualini da Silva proposed openstack/manila: Fix share manage tempest test cleanup https://review.openstack.org/394388 | 10:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Marc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: DNM Use tempest-plugin service client registration https://review.openstack.org/334596 | 12:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Tiago Pasqualini da Silva proposed openstack/manila: Fix share manage tempest test cleanup https://review.openstack.org/394388 | 12:17 |
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TommyLikeHu | hey guys, anyone would like to review this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390034/ | 12:26 |
TommyLikeHu | this bp intends to add a query paramter to the existing API get-pools | 12:27 |
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openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add the ability to check the tenant quota in detail https://review.openstack.org/390052 | 13:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Tiago Pasqualini da Silva proposed openstack/manila: Fix share manage tempest test cleanup https://review.openstack.org/394388 | 13:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Deprecate rabbitmq connection parameters https://review.openstack.org/395151 | 14:46 |
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tpsilva | gouthamr: Hello Goutham! I changed the create as well, if you could take a look when you have some time! thanks | 15:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Deprecate rabbitmq connection parameters https://review.openstack.org/395151 | 16:02 |
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cknight | toabctl, markstur: Any further feedback on this spec? It appears to be winning in a landslide: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391049/ | 16:27 |
toabctl | cknight, lgtm | 16:28 |
cknight | toabctl: thanks! | 16:28 |
markstur | cknight: we have specs??? | 16:28 |
cknight | markstur: :-) Indeed we do. | 16:29 |
* markstur has some catching up to do | 16:30 | |
cknight | markstur: Lots of reviews happening already, quality of all is improving: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-ocata-spec-review-focus | 16:30 |
markstur | Yes. I should be able to make progress on spec reviews today. Saving them for nighttime reading hasn't worked. | 16:32 |
markstur | WIll look at ^ now. It looks like an easy one. | 16:32 |
markstur | cknight: So the default will be no snapshots? | 16:40 |
markstur | cknight: The out-of-the-box manila with a lazy default share type has no snapshot support | 16:41 |
markstur | and "don't care" means you can't do it | 16:41 |
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markstur | cknight: So we could default snapshot_support to true. That would be nice but... | 16:56 |
markstur | cknight: then we'd still not know what you can do with the snapshot... | 16:57 |
markstur | which I think is OK because often it'll just be usable from "./snapshot/..." dir | 16:57 |
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markstur | but the revert or create-from would either be unavailable or would depend on the backend capability | 16:58 |
markstur | and I guess this kind of "bonus" feature that you may or may not get depending on the backend is considered bad. | 16:58 |
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bswartz | yeah we don't allow bonus features | 16:59 |
markstur | So for newbies. Snapshots might seem like an advanced thing that they won't get until they learn how to turn it on | 17:00 |
markstur | even tho it is something almost all drivers will do | 17:01 |
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cknight | markstur: Yeah, bswartz has been adamant (and I agree) that bonus features aren't a good thing, because they make the cloud experience non-deterministic. The tenant (or application) must know what features will or won't be available, and admins need to be able to set pricing models based on known feature combinations. Thanks for reviewing! | 17:49 |
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markstur | Yep. I don't really have a great suggestion to make it better. I _guess_ I'd lean toward snapshot_support true by default, but after that we still have the problem of whether you can do anything with them | 18:00 |
markstur | thin/thick is almost similar. If you say don't care... | 18:01 |
markstur | You might get lucky and get a share that eats less disk space ($$$ chargeback?) | 18:02 |
markstur | Or you might get lucky and get a share that you can actually fill w/o running out of disk space | 18:02 |
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markstur | but the big difference there is that the behavior is mostly hidden unlike snapshot UI etc | 18:03 |
markstur | out-of-disk or billing $$$ is necessarily completely hidden but is definitely different from end user major action availability | 18:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila-specs: Create share from snapshot extra spec https://review.openstack.org/391049 | 18:09 |
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markstur | ^ http://i.coastingfish.com/i/2016/02/19/84e8e45c227eba202d4170a662887b1c.png | 18:11 |
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gouthamr_ | markstur: i was typing out a looong reply :P | 18:29 |
gouthamr_ | #internetissues | 18:29 |
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markstur | gouthamr: bring it | 18:31 |
markstur | ^ ooh. Now that I'm into gifs and emojis I really missed an opportunity there ^ | 18:32 |
gouthamr | markstur: discarded it by accident when i saw the +W.. gifs and emojis: slack? | 18:32 |
bswartz | lack of gif/emoji support in IRC is by design, and not a defect | 18:34 |
markstur | Slack and using "Lime" on my mac makes links like above show an image | 18:35 |
bswartz | mercifully, the rest of us just see a URL | 18:36 |
markstur | But other than knowing when to add a smiley to a comment that might otherwise sound wrong. I will hopefully not make a habit of it | 18:36 |
openstackgerrit | Clinton Knight proposed openstack/manila: Add create_share_from_snapshot_support extra spec https://review.openstack.org/356682 | 18:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Denis Cavalcante proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Add support to configure Hitachi NAS Platform driver with Manila shares. https://review.openstack.org/395759 | 18:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Mauricio Lima proposed openstack/manila-specs: Spec for openstack client support https://review.openstack.org/395775 | 19:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Ben Swartzlander proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add Stochastic Weighing Scheduler https://review.openstack.org/395777 | 19:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Clinton Knight proposed openstack/manila: Add create_share_from_snapshot_support extra spec https://review.openstack.org/356682 | 21:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/puppet-manila: Remove old authtoken options https://review.openstack.org/394752 | 21:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Deprecate rabbitmq connection parameters https://review.openstack.org/395151 | 21:59 |
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