Wednesday, 2017-04-12

gouthamrtommylikehu: via the REST API00:00
gouthamrtommylikehu: i don't see filtering here: https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/data-protection-orchestration/v1/index.html00:01
gouthamrtommylikehu: only see pagination...00:01
tommylikehuIf we advertise that since xx.xx the filter xxx would change into non-exact.filter00:02
tommylikehu?00:02
gouthamrtommylikehu: what do i do to filter exactly then?00:02
tommylikehuId00:03
tommylikehukarbor is non-exact filter for some column by default00:03
tommylikehuWe are.not.going to change everything00:03
tommylikehuEvery column00:04
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gouthamrtommylikehu: it seems simpler than you think.. we've to process filters anyway in the API... we can split the fields on ('-like') and treat these as non-exact filters00:05
tommylikehuAre you talking about my draft code?00:07
gouthamrtommylikehu: nope... i'm talking about implementation for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44777500:07
tommylikehuIt seems you idea is actually what I had done in cinder00:08
gouthamrtommylikehu: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445440 ?00:10
tommylikehuYes00:11
gouthamrtommylikehu: you're converting name and description to non-exact filters there...00:11
tommylikehuOk that's the difference we first have00:12
tommylikehuHow about this00:12
tommylikehuSupport name=123 and name~123 and no more prefix00:13
gouthamrtommylikehu: ah, i suggested that, and thought it was more confusing for encoding's sake.00:13
gouthamrtommylikehu: name=123 name=%7E12300:14
tommylikehuYou also suggested some regex operator00:14
tommylikehuThe idea name_like=123 is a little strange00:15
tommylikehuI am not sure whether our client and api framework support key value in the format of name=%12300:16
tommylikehuBut anyway zhongjun_  and I will talk about this00:18
tommylikehugouthamr: thanks00:18
gouthamryw!00:19
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tommylikehuhey gouthamr , we accept resource name with format %share_101:00
tommylikehuso the possible format for like query is name%=%share01:01
tommylikehuright?01:01
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/45593304:13
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila-image-elements master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/45593404:13
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila-ui master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/45593504:13
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-manilaclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/45599704:21
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for change ensure share to make startup faster  https://review.openstack.org/44649404:59
openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Enhance update shares  https://review.openstack.org/45355305:02
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: maintain shares  https://review.openstack.org/45355305:04
openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Maintain shares  https://review.openstack.org/45355305:06
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for infinite share  https://review.openstack.org/45209707:46
openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for infinite share  https://review.openstack.org/45209707:47
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vponomaryovgouthamr, tommylikehu: read your conversation, and from CLI point of view it may be good to implement argument that accepts key-value pairs. Like metadata of share type extra specs setting10:36
getlasterrorhi all, I'm developing a manila driver from a devstack machine, to close the loop I want to set up the networking so I could mount a share from a vm, can anyone guide me through? :)10:36
vponomaryovs/of/or/10:38
vponomaryovgetlasterror: setting up networking by driver or for it?10:38
vponomaryovgetlasterror: manila has two driver modes, with and without networking handling10:38
getlasterrorwithout handling servers10:39
getlasterrorI have an NFS server that has connectivity to the devstack node using a 2nd interface10:39
vponomaryovgetlasterror: then it is question of having network connectivity between manila node and Nova VMs?10:39
getlasterrorI'd like to set up neutron to allow a vm to access it and I'm also asking what is the proper way to do it in production10:39
getlasterrorI'm using devstack which is running all the services10:40
getlasterrorI'm concerned about the connectivity between a running instance and the actual nfs server10:40
vponomaryovgetlasterror: ok, but why are you asking it in manila channel?10:41
tommylikehuHey vponomaryov  you are talking about like filter right?10:41
vponomaryovtommylikehu: message for you - yes10:41
getlasterrorvponomaryov, I'd like to know what is the proper way to do it in production10:41
getlasterrorShould the user instances have 2 nics?10:42
vponomaryovgetlasterror: different production solutions have different requirements, and hence, different setups10:42
getlasterrorshould I use floating ip?10:42
tommylikehuActually even we have this kind of CLI we should consider how to deal with gouthamr's concern10:42
tommylikehuAlso10:43
vponomaryovgetlasterror: it depends on lots of things , whether it is public or private cloud , and so on10:43
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vponomaryovtommylikehu: there is no point of rconcern with it10:43
vponomaryovtommylikehu: it is solution10:43
getlasterrorlet's say it is a private cloud10:43
vponomaryovgetlasterror: in private cloud where you trust anybody? )10:44
vponomaryovs/in//10:44
tommylikehuvponomaryov:  so you added another preset if we wanna have that feature in manila10:44
vponomaryovgetlasterror: then it is the simpliest networking )10:45
vponomaryovgetlasterror: you decide10:45
getlasterroralso, manila has ACLs using ip addresses, what ip addresses should be used then?10:45
getlasterrorwhat are my options :)10:45
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getlasterrorCan I allow access to a single IP address on the provider network?10:46
tommylikehuBecause manila doesn't have the ability to filter resources like manila list --filters key=value10:46
vponomaryovgetlasterror: any amount of addressed10:46
vponomaryovs/addressed/addresses/10:46
tommylikehuvponomaryov: right10:46
tommylikehu?10:46
vponomaryovtommylikehu: look, you were discussing spec -> feature proposal10:46
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tommylikehuYes?10:47
vponomaryovtommylikehu: I provided opinion on addressing appeared concern10:47
vponomaryovtommylikehu: sure, it does not have feature that is being proposed10:47
vponomaryovgetlasterror: access can be granted to whole word - 0.0.0.0/010:48
vponomaryovs/word/World/10:48
tommylikehuvponomaryov:  you are right, that is exact what I plan to do10:49
tommylikehuIt's more natural and easy to use10:49
vponomaryovtommylikehu: so, variant "$manila list --filters key=value --some-old-key=exact-value" is completely ok10:50
vponomaryovtommylikehu: then, if you agree, better to update spec with CLI part and how are you going to handle it on API level10:51
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tommylikehuvponomaryov: I like to add some symbol right after the filter key BTW10:51
vponomaryovtommylikehu: because, from API level point of view you need to keep old approach and introduce new one in addition10:51
tommylikehuvponomaryov: surely I will10:52
tommylikehuvponomaryov: also I think manila needs more care and more change to reach that goal than cinder10:54
vponomaryovtommylikehu: let's assume, what does it change?10:55
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tommylikehuPlus refactor in CLI plus what we already have10:56
tommylikehuBettet refactor the filter logic in manila as well10:57
vponomaryovvponomaryov: still the same question, does it affect behavior somehow?10:58
vponomaryovtommylikehu: ^10:58
openstackgerritMerged openstack/manila-specs master: Optimize the link address  https://review.openstack.org/45552910:59
tommylikehuWill affect the way we use list command in CLI10:59
tommylikehuvponomaryov: 😃10:59
openstackgerritDeepak Jon proposed openstack/manila master: Added example to plugin stable branch  https://review.openstack.org/45616810:59
vponomaryovtommylikehu: gouthamr's concern is exactly to keep old one and just extend possibilities11:00
vponomaryovtommylikehu: so, it should not affect11:01
vponomaryovtommylikehu: it should provide one more way11:01
tommylikehuHe is more concern about the RestAPI11:01
vponomaryovtommylikehu: ok, just update spec as you plan to implement it, APi and CLI parts, that's all11:02
tommylikehuvponomaryov: cool!11:03
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Maintain shares  https://review.openstack.org/45355312:23
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Maintain shares  https://review.openstack.org/45355312:32
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Maintain shares  https://review.openstack.org/45355312:33
openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for updating shares without manila share service restart  https://review.openstack.org/45355312:35
Zhongjun__bswartz: ping12:36
tommylikehu他建议cinder的方式12:43
tommylikehugouthamr, tommylikehu: read your conversation, and from CLI point of view it may be good to implement argument that accepts key-value pairs. Like metadata of share type extra specs setting12:43
tommylikehuZhongjun__:  please take a look12:43
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Zhongjun__vponomaryov, tbarron, gouthamr, tommylikehu: ping, could we discuss about like filter spec?12:44
Zhongjun__tommylikehu: ok, looking12:44
vponomaryovZhongjun__: we can try12:45
Zhongjun__tommylikehu: It(key-value) is better than we have12:46
gouthamrZhongjun__: pong12:46
tommylikehuso we may all agree that we should introduce new mirror key represent the like operation12:47
tommylikehusomething like name_xx= 12312:47
gouthamrtommylikehu: either that, or suggest using ~ as the like operator12:47
tommylikehugouthamr, vponomaryov Zhongjun__  the rest part is how we deal in the CLI12:48
Zhongjun__vponomaryov, tbarron, gouthamr, tommylikehu: Do we support key-value pairs in manila list filter12:48
vponomaryovZhongjun__: filtering with metadata12:48
tommylikehuso the final command would be : manila list --filters name1=key1 name2~=key2, correct?12:49
vponomaryovZhongjun__: and extra specs12:49
gouthamrtommylikehu: name2=~key212:49
Zhongjun__such as: manila list --filter name=1231 ?12:49
vponomaryovtommylikehu: in case of "key=value" pairs no, no "~" symbol12:49
tommylikehuvponomaryov:  what's your suggestion on that?12:50
Zhongjun__vponomaryov: Could you show us your CLI look like?12:50
gouthamri'm okay with either "name-like=xyz" or "name=~xyz" as long as we implement it consistently across shares, networks, types, groups..12:50
vponomaryov"$manila list --share-type foo --inexact-filters name=foo description=bar"12:50
tommylikehuwhy?12:51
tommylikehuit seems a little more complicated12:51
vponomaryovwhy do you think it is complicated?12:52
tommylikehufrom a view of a user12:52
vponomaryovwe already have search by key-value pairs12:52
tommylikehuif I am the user12:52
vponomaryovI do not see anything complicated for user from CLI view I wrote above12:52
tommylikehuvponomaryov, your point is more about don't break the current CLIs12:53
vponomaryovand implement nice new one12:53
tommylikehuthat could be a little strange12:53
Zhongjun__We need to distiguish which key-value is inexact and witch key-value is exact in CLI12:53
tommylikehuplease take a look at this spec12:54
vponomaryovZhongjun__: old keys stay the same and new ones will be explicitly defined12:54
tommylikehuvponomaryov: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441516/12:54
gouthamrwhy are you guys opposed to name=~xyz?12:54
tommylikehuwhy don't unify them12:54
gouthamrtommylikehu: +112:54
Zhongjun__because it like  regex  filter12:54
gouthamrZhongjun__: there is no regex filter, until we build one12:55
tommylikehugouthamr: maybe we could, I am not much care about the symbol, I can get used to it :)12:55
tommylikehubut my point is how we could reach a agreement12:55
tommylikehuZhongjun__: +1 the user could get a little confused that we give them a regex operator and act only like a like operator12:56
gouthamrtommylikehu: vision: manila list --filters name=xyz,is_public=True --fields id,name,created_at --limit 10 --sort id12:56
tommylikehugouthamr:  come on12:57
tommylikehuno12:57
tommylikehugouthamr:  we are rebuilding the sql in our CLI12:58
gouthamrtommylikehu: lol, why? that's what jgriffith's proposal is on the cinder side, i'm only adding column and pagination12:58
tommylikehuwhere is the fields part, did I missed it?12:58
gouthamrtommylikehu: we support column filtering directly on the CLI now.. i don't care if the API supports direct column filtering, as long as i have a way to do it.12:59
Zhongjun__vponomaryov: Do you agree with  manila list --filter  name=xyz  name_xxxx( name_like, name% or something else)=xyz12:59
tommylikehugouthamr: oh, yes, I didn't notice that13:00
tommylikehumanila is fantastic13:01
vponomaryovZhongjun__: I prefer to avoid change of key13:02
Zhongjun__Now, there are two ways : 1.manila list --filter  name=xyz  name_xxxx( name_like, name% or something else)=xyz   2.  manila list --share-type foo --inexact-filters name=foo description=bar13:02
Zhongjun__Which one do you agree? :D13:03
tommylikehuvponomaryov:  he answered13:03
tommylikehuZhongjun__:13:03
Zhongjun__others?13:03
vponomaryovOthers Pacha Ravi? ))13:04
tommylikehusorry, that is for you13:04
tommylikehuZhongjun__:13:04
Zhongjun__ganso, bswartz, tbarron: Could you take a look at this?13:07
Zhongjun__gouthamr: Do you agree with  "manila list --share-type foo --inexact-filters name=foo description=bar" , I will change to this way if you also agree with this.13:08
vponomaryovZhongjun__: isn't following is his answer? -> (15:56:31) gouthamr: tommylikehu: vision: manila list --filters name=xyz,is_public=True --fields id,name,created_at --limit 10 --sort id13:09
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Zhongjun__Maybe he also agree with you suggestion13:11
vponomaryovZhongjun__: црфе фищге нщг,13:11
vponomaryovZhongjun__: what about you?13:12
tommylikehuvponomaryov:  have you read jgriffith's spec?13:16
tommylikehuwhy you refused to take that step:)13:17
Zhongjun__I like your way, It could do less change. :D    acutually, I think may the unify them will more suitable for user, it could let user use CLI command more easily13:17
gouthamrэто весело13:17
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tommylikehugouthamr:  say something we could understand :)13:18
Zhongjun__это весело I can not understand this :D13:19
Zhongjun__gouthamr:13:19
gouthamrtommylikehu: :) fun to learn new things..13:19
gouthamrhttps://translate.google.com/#en/ru/this%20is%20fun13:19
tommylikehuvponomaryov: let's assume this case if one end user would like to filter the share with exact match he would use manila list --name 121313, right?13:19
tommylikehuthen he changed his mind, so he would use manila list --inexact-filter name=12121213:20
tommylikehugouthamr: 欢迎来中国玩13:20
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gouthamrtommylikehu: 这更有趣 (hope translate isn't messing up what i mean)13:23
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gouthamrZhongjun__: just testing your intent here... is "like" the only thing you want to implement or is this the first step in many search improvements?13:24
gouthamrzhongjun_: i ask because jgriffith's spec seems like the way we've always wanted filtering to work (he's missing inexact search), but we never got around to doing it that way13:24
tommylikehugouthamr: I will try to add my spec into his consideration13:25
gouthamrtommylikehu: thank you...13:25
* gouthamr there are two zhongjun_ Zhongjun__ 13:26
Zhongjun__gouthamr: I am here,  The first step: "like" is the only thing I want to implement13:26
Zhongjun__zhongjun_ from company13:26
Zhongjun__zhongjun__ from home13:27
tommylikehuZhongjun__:  I like the irccloud13:27
Zhongjun__come from13:27
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Zhongjun__I am stay in irccloud now :)13:28
vponomaryovgouthamr: you like to study foreign languages? ))13:35
vponomaryovtommylikehu: no, I haven't read jgriffith's spec13:36
vponomaryovtommylikehu: then, about your last question for me13:37
tommylikehuyes13:38
Zhongjun__gouthamr: So, in first step, Coud we just add   --filter --name_like=xyz   or   --inexact-filter=xyz ?13:38
vponomaryovtommylikehu: yes, sounds ok for me13:38
vponomaryovZhongjun__: key-value group name is debatable, but I don't see a reason to change key's name13:39
vponomaryovZhongjun__: so, "name" and "name_like" is not obvious for me13:40
vponomaryovZhongjun__: not obvious that it refers to single model attribute13:40
Zhongjun__s/--inexact-filter=xyz/ --inexact-filter  name=xyz13:42
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vponomaryovZhongjun__: also, need to make it plural as it can contain lots of pairs13:42
Zhongjun__s/--inexact-filter  name=xyz/--inexact-filters  name=xyz13:43
vponomaryovyes ^_^13:43
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Allow to filter resources by inexact value matching in 'list' APIs  https://review.openstack.org/44777514:16
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Allow to filter resources by inexact value matching in 'list' APIs  https://review.openstack.org/44777514:23
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Zhongjun__vponomaryov, gouthamr: address your comments in like filter spec, Thanks :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447775/14:35
gouthamrZhongjun__: ack. thanks!14:35
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for infinite share  https://review.openstack.org/45209715:22
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila master: Add quotas per share type  https://review.openstack.org/45215816:56
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila master: Add quotas per share type  https://review.openstack.org/45215817:41
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Restarting Gerrit for our weekly memory leak cleanup.21:25
openstackgerritTom Barron proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Update tox.ini to be inline with our other repos  https://review.openstack.org/45639821:34
openstackgerritTom Barron proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Update tox.ini to align with other manila repos  https://review.openstack.org/45639821:36
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openstackgerritTom Barron proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add support for blockdiag  https://review.openstack.org/45640422:07
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for change ensure share to make startup faster  https://review.openstack.org/44649423:11
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for updating shares without manila share service restart  https://review.openstack.org/45355323:37
openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for updating shares without manila share service restart  https://review.openstack.org/45355323:38
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