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| openstackgerrit | Chris Yang proposed openstack/manila master: Add support for enhanced features to the QNAP Manila driver https://review.openstack.org/509097 | 07:07 |
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| drico_ | Hi | 10:45 |
| drico_ | Could somebody tell me where I can change the absolute limits like maxTotalShareGigabytes ? | 10:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/manila master: WIP: Use constants for microversion values https://review.openstack.org/509152 | 11:33 |
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| drico_ | could it be cinder that put that limit on manila ? | 12:03 |
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| drico_ | ok so I got my answer, cinder is limiting manila thru the service project and apply his quota on it | 12:13 |
| drico_ | shame the documentation says : An administrator can configure limits in the manila.conf file there https://docs.openstack.org/manila/pike/admin/shared-file-systems-quotas.html | 12:14 |
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| tbarron | drico_: that doc is accurate for manila resources but if you use the manila "generic" driver it uses cinder on the back end so cinder's limits apply to those resources | 13:01 |
| tbarron | drico_: make sense? ^^ | 13:01 |
| drico_ | yes now that I figured out it make sense :) | 13:02 |
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| ganso | ping bswartz, tbarron | 14:10 |
| tbarron | ganso: hey, you home now? | 14:11 |
| ganso | tbarron: actually at work, but here in Brazil xD | 14:12 |
| tbarron | ganso: well, that's wheat I meant :) | 14:12 |
| ganso | tbarron: yeah, in my home country | 14:12 |
| tbarron | ganso: hope your trip was easy | 14:12 |
| ganso | tbarron: well it was as good as all flights usually are: not good | 14:13 |
| tbarron | ganso: yeah | 14:13 |
| tbarron | ganso: anyways, what's up? | 14:13 |
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| ganso | tbarron: I really don't want to wait until Thursday to discuss this, would prefer to gather some more opinions on this to move forward | 14:14 |
| ganso | tbarron: I already talked to Goutham and I hope bswartz can chime in as well | 14:14 |
| ganso | tbarron: so, I don't know if you ever saw this: https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/manila/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L3508 | 14:14 |
| tbarron | ganso: i've seen it but I don't understand it | 14:15 |
| ganso | tbarron: that comment is a false statement. Read_deleted does not work like that. It either reads only non-deleted, or only deleted | 14:15 |
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| ganso | tbarron: None is the same as False, so it will never read the deleted entries | 14:15 |
| ganso | tbarron: this causes line 3515 to never work in case of deleted entries, thus the line 3519 will never have the intended effect | 14:16 |
| ganso | tbarron: one solution to this is to not do soft deletes when handling drivers private storage entries | 14:16 |
| ganso | tbarron: in other words, doing hard deletes, which is something we do not do at all in manila | 14:17 |
| ganso | tbarron: so what's your stance on this? | 14:18 |
| tbarron | ganso: is there another potential fix? | 14:18 |
| tbarron | ganso: offhand it seems there should be a way to do what is needed w/o getting rid of soft deletes | 14:19 |
| ganso | tbarron: if we do not want to change to hard deletes, the alternative fix is to not use the generic model_query that always includes a 'deleted' field filter | 14:19 |
| tbarron | is there a downside to that alternative fix? | 14:19 |
| ganso | tbarron: there is a way. Goutham is in favor of hard deletes. Myself am a bit uneasy of changing this behavior and having drivers private storage being a even more special snowflake | 14:20 |
| ganso | tbarron: some code duplication | 14:20 |
| ganso | tbarron: but I agree that soft_deletes do not make sense for drivers_private storage unless we really do want to audit everything the driver has done in the past | 14:21 |
| tbarron | well I'd like to hear from gouthamr why he's in favor of hard deletes for private storage. It isn't so much that I think we *need* soft deletes there but | 14:21 |
| ganso | tbarron: based on u_glide's false assumption, it seems we never intended to really save or audit that because the updates can undelete entries | 14:22 |
| tbarron | ganso: i see | 14:22 |
| tbarron | so if we use hard deletes can we just document that in code comments and maybe in devref for private storage? | 14:23 |
| tbarron | If we can make it "unsurprising" and the end result is cleaner code then I'm OK with hard deletes. | 14:23 |
| tbarron | I don't think there's a use case for soft deletes for private storage, as you say, it's just the inconsistency that would need to be documented | 14:24 |
| ganso | tbarron: yes | 14:24 |
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| tbarron | ganso: so I'm ok with you and gouthamr doing hard deletes and documenting it in code and devref appropriately | 14:25 |
| ganso | tbarron: ok thanks for your opinion on it :) | 14:25 |
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