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al-maisan | flaper87: Good morning -- are you joining us for the call at 17:00 CEST? | 09:27 |
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flaper87 | al-maisan: #FuckYeah | 09:27 |
flaper87 | :D | 09:27 |
al-maisan | great!! | 09:28 |
al-maisan | how is the rain in Como? | 09:28 |
al-maisan | ;) | 09:28 |
flaper87 | al-maisan: It rained pasta & pizza yesterday but today we've got a beatiful, sunny, not so hot, perfect weather day | 09:29 |
flaper87 | :D | 09:29 |
flaper87 | Does that make you jealuos enough ? | 09:29 |
flaper87 | :D | 09:29 |
al-maisan | he-he | 09:29 |
flaper87 | I spent my sunday coding at home | 09:29 |
al-maisan | nothing beats the fine Zurich drizzle ;) | 09:30 |
flaper87 | well, I'd have done the same even if it was sunny | 09:30 |
flaper87 | al-maisan: lol | 09:30 |
al-maisan | the "sunday coding at home" bit *does* make me jealous | 09:30 |
flaper87 | Mission Accomplished | 09:31 |
flaper87 | :D | 09:31 |
* flaper87 spent his sunday fixing Rust bugs and discussing `select` based timers | 09:32 | |
flaper87 | al-maisan: do you work remotely or at RAX office? | 09:32 |
flaper87 | (assuming there's one in Zurich) | 09:32 |
al-maisan | yeah, I wanted to ask you about Rust .. what is it that attracts you to it? | 09:32 |
* al-maisan is in the Zurich office today | 09:32 | |
al-maisan | tomorrow: remote work | 09:33 |
flaper87 | al-maisan: Rust's memory management and type inference it's pure poetry | 09:38 |
flaper87 | The syntax is nice, there are a couple of things I'd change but it's under heavy development | 09:38 |
flaper87 | towards a 1.0 stable release and hopefully production ready | 09:38 |
al-maisan | Wow! After your glowing endorsement I'll need to take a look :) | 09:43 |
flaper87 | al-maisan: :D | 09:43 |
* flaper87 used to read poems in high school, he now reads code. | 09:44 | |
flaper87 | actually, that last msg deserves a tweet | 09:44 |
al-maisan | hmm .. hmm .. reading good code can be very enjoyable .. but maybe not at a poem level :) | 09:45 |
al-maisan | he-he | 09:45 |
al-maisan | :) | 09:45 |
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acabrera | Good morning. :) | 12:34 |
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flaper87 | yo yo yo | 13:44 |
acabrera | flaper87: o/ | 13:47 |
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flaper87 | acabrera: gooood morning | 13:51 |
acabrera | I read the openmic that were featured in, flaper87. When I saw the gummy bears surrounding the coffee mug, I had no doubt it was you. :P | 13:52 |
acabrera | Also, I thought - "Man, that's an awesome wall paper!" | 13:52 |
flaper87 | :D | 13:53 |
flaper87 | gummy bears, it's like, like, like, like.... Can't even describe them. Superb... :D | 13:53 |
* flaper87 depends on those things | 13:53 | |
flaper87 | btw guys, I submitted a patch for ddt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46702/ | 13:54 |
flaper87 | it just got approved | 13:54 |
flaper87 | BUT | 13:54 |
flaper87 | I was suggested to use testscenarios which is what other projects use and seem to work better than ddt | 13:54 |
flaper87 | Can any of you take care of that migration before tests using ddt get bigger? | 13:54 |
acabrera | testscenarios - hmmm... | 13:55 |
flaper87 | I've never used it | 13:55 |
flaper87 | so, I'd love to know what you guys think | 13:55 |
acabrera | I need to read up on that a little more. The PyPI docs on it made me a little weary. | 13:55 |
malini | I am looking at it now | 13:55 |
acabrera | They were a bit scattered. :x | 13:55 |
acabrera | IMHO, anyway. | 13:55 |
acabrera | malini: awesome! | 13:56 |
malini | the testscenarios doc make ddt docs look like bible ^o) | 14:03 |
flaper87 | ^^ | 14:03 |
acabrera | lol | 14:05 |
malini | flaper87: do you know of any openstack history with pytest? | 14:05 |
flaper87 | malini: not at all | 14:06 |
flaper87 | :( | 14:06 |
* flaper87 is so waiting for that ddt patch to land | 14:11 | |
flaper87 | damn it | 14:11 |
malini | http://pytest.org/latest/contents.html | 14:14 |
malini | is cool!! | 14:14 |
flaper87 | yeah, py.test is cool | 14:14 |
malini | But I'll try testscenarios first ..so we conform to OS | 14:15 |
flaper87 | it's not that we have to | 14:15 |
flaper87 | but, you know, other projects are using it, there's to be a why | 14:15 |
flaper87 | so to speak :D | 14:16 |
malini | yeah..thts what I thought too | 14:16 |
malini | there might be a reason why others arent using something common like pytest | 14:16 |
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acabrera | testscenario was developed in 2009. It might have solved a problem that was really bad at that time. I'd love to hear what problem it solves now. It's definitely maintained, as I observed from the launchpad/PyPI page, and it supports Python 3 (+1), but if we don't need it... | 14:23 |
acabrera | As for pytest, I'm not sure on that one. I've done mild comparisons of it to nose in the past. IMO, they're on equal footing. If you need a test runner, pick one of the two and run with it. :) | 14:24 |
malini | pytest seems to be have better support for tests that are beyond the scope of unit tests | 14:25 |
acabrera | [pytest v. nose]: The reason one is chosen over the other might be familiarity, in that case. Or it might be plugin compatibility (does pytest work with testr?) | 14:25 |
flaper87 | acabrera: plus, nosetest has been used since the very beginning | 14:29 |
flaper87 | there's some hate around nose anyway | 14:29 |
flaper87 | but you know, migrating all projects would be a real adventure | 14:29 |
acabrera | nose hate, flaper87? I haven't heard of it. What's being said? | 14:29 |
* acabrera curious about pain points | 14:30 | |
malini | I will play around with pytest & chk on testr compatibilty & stuff | 14:30 |
flaper87 | mmh, TBH, dunno what are the arguments against it but I know there's some | 14:30 |
acabrera | ahh, alright. If you knew the specifics, I'd love to hear them. :) | 14:31 |
flaper87 | acabrera: I know mordred doesn't like nose that much | 14:32 |
acabrera | thanks - I may bug him about it at some point! | 14:34 |
acabrera | For the moment, I'm going to check the review queue. | 14:34 |
acabrera | There's some rebasing I need to do on proxy patches, and I'm sure there's things that need reviewing. | 14:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Alejandro Cabrera proposed a change to openstack/marconi: feat: marconi-proxy forwarding https://review.openstack.org/44364 | 14:40 |
openstackgerrit | Alejandro Cabrera proposed a change to openstack/marconi: feat: define interfaces for proxy storage https://review.openstack.org/46328 | 14:40 |
openstackgerrit | Alejandro Cabrera proposed a change to openstack/marconi: WIP: add mongo driver for marconi proxy storage https://review.openstack.org/46375 | 14:41 |
malini | yayy..new home ..https://github.com/openstack/marconi | 14:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhihao Yuan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: test(proxy): partition related endpoints https://review.openstack.org/46362 | 14:52 |
kgriffs | flaper87: did you already register a bug re ddt => testscenarios ? | 14:52 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: erm, nope :( sorry about that | 14:53 |
kgriffs | ok, just trying to keep track of things. Could you do that real quick? | 14:53 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: btw, dunno if you noticed it, I wen ahead and marked bugs with Fix Committed as Fix Released | 14:53 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: I'll do that | 14:53 |
kgriffs | flaper87: yeah, saw that. I guess we can just do that until we have our first real release | 14:54 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/marconi/+bug/1226081 | 14:55 |
flaper87 | malini: ^ | 14:55 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: correct | 14:55 |
malini | flaper87: thanks! I assigned me to it | 14:55 |
flaper87 | malini: awesome, thanks for taking care of it | 14:56 |
zyuan | ChanServ: what's the purpose of having multiple url for each node? | 14:56 |
flaper87 | lol | 14:56 |
zyuan | acabrera: ^^ | 14:56 |
acabrera | zyuan: :P | 14:56 |
acabrera | I'll explain that. | 14:56 |
zyuan | -_-||| | 14:56 |
acabrera | The reason for having multiple URLs registered for each partition is to improve availablity. For example, if those URLs were merely haproxy nodes, then marconi-proxy can remove a failed haproxy node from that nodes list and still have a fallback available while the deployer fixes the haproxy problem. | 14:58 |
zyuan | it might be better to have some HA selection algo instead of having back-up urls... | 14:58 |
zyuan | i'm not familiar with these. but i got it. | 14:59 |
acabrera | it's something to revisit later. Primarily, I'd love to leave complex HA logic out of marconi-proxy to the greatest extent possible, while allowing marconi-proxy to be pluggable into an HA deployment. | 15:00 |
flaper87 | al-maisan: kgriffs 2 secs, I'll get my ipad | 15:01 |
kgriffs | flaper87: not seeing al-maisan online? | 15:06 |
amitgandhi | kgriffs: flaper87: you guys talking foghorn? | 15:06 |
kgriffs | we were going to, but I am starting to wonder if the calendar invite got flubbed | 15:06 |
al-maisan | yes | 15:06 |
al-maisan | kgriffs: ready now | 15:07 |
kgriffs | o hai! | 15:07 |
al-maisan | hello :) | 15:07 |
kgriffs | btw, I don't use my @rackspace account for google much - better to use my @gmail - sffirgk | 15:08 |
al-maisan | ok | 15:09 |
amitgandhi | mind if i join too? | 15:09 |
al-maisan | amitgandhi: please do .. | 15:09 |
amitgandhi | G+ ? | 15:09 |
al-maisan | amitgandhi: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/f907922009c3fda8e281884e7a5faaed0c451b63?hl=en | 15:09 |
al-maisan | kgriffs: gotcha | 15:09 |
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amitgandhi | https://github.com/amitgandhinz/cloud_notifications | 15:30 |
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al-maisan | amitgandhi: thanks! | 15:31 |
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al-maisan | flaper87: can you please give me the meetup link as well? | 15:31 |
amitgandhi | it was just something i did as a concept for the last hackday so its very rough | 15:31 |
flaper87 | al-maisan: http://www.meetup.com/Geneva-MongoDB-User-Group/events/137764672/ | 15:31 |
al-maisan | amitgandhi: understood! | 15:32 |
al-maisan | thanks flaper87 ! | 15:32 |
* flaper87 will talk about MongoDB in Marconi | 15:32 | |
flaper87 | The title of the outline is: "Steps out of hell" | 15:32 |
flaper87 | .... | 15:32 |
zyuan | acabrera: found another tiny issue | 15:34 |
zyuan | the url can not have a trailing / | 15:35 |
zyuan | like http://...:port/ | 15:35 |
zyuan | intentional? | 15:35 |
kgriffs | flaper87: LOL | 15:36 |
al-maisan | flaper87: that's gotta be a hot talk ;) | 15:36 |
al-maisan | or .. "a hell of a hot talk" :-P | 15:37 |
acabrera | zyuan: it's unintentional. | 15:38 |
flaper87 | what the hell is going on with the gate | 15:38 |
flaper87 | T_T | 15:39 |
zyuan | hmm, and there is no way to clean up catalog after a test -- unless i do a flushdb() from redis | 15:39 |
zyuan | either i refactor it or just add the call for now... | 15:39 |
acabrera | zyuan: That's right. You're going to need to make that part of teardown. | 15:39 |
zyuan | acabrera: i usually send DELETE | 15:40 |
kgriffs | reminder: teem mtg in 15 mins over in #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:45 |
acabrera | flaper87: If I wanted to set an oslo.config option via tinkering in the CLI (to interact with oslo.cache), how would I achieve that? :x | 15:45 |
kgriffs | is it just me, or is pypi acting up again? | 15:58 |
kgriffs | https://jenkins02.openstack.org/job/gate-requirements-install/167/console | 15:58 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: back, sorry | 15:58 |
Alex_Gaynor | kgriffs: yes, it's know that pypi is acting up, see dstufft and I in -infa | 15:58 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: what Alex_Gaynor said | 15:59 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: re oslo.config | 15:59 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: Is conf.register_cli_opts() what you need? | 15:59 |
kgriffs | flaper87: I believe acabrera was looking for that | 16:00 |
flaper87 | that'll register the option as a CLI parameter and as a config parameter | 16:00 |
flaper87 | damn | 16:00 |
flaper87 | sorry | 16:00 |
flaper87 | acabrera: ^ | 16:00 |
flaper87 | :D | 16:00 |
kgriffs | i think he wants to set it on the fly from pdb, tho | 16:00 |
kgriffs | (set a value) | 16:00 |
acabrera | from python-cli, specifically. | 16:00 |
acabrera | Doing a little experimentation with oslo.cache and oslo.cfg is getting in the way. D: | 16:00 |
kgriffs | mtg time | 16:01 |
acabrera | flaper87, kgriffs: I'll look at this some more after the meeting. I'm migrating marconi-proxy to use oslo.cache today. | 16:01 |
malini | flaper87: Some of the queue tests are missing cleanup/teardown eg. https://github.com/openstack/marconi/blob/master/tests/functional/wsgi/v1/test_queues.py#L39 . This was unintentional, rt ? | 16:08 |
kgriffs | malini: ? | 16:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhihao Yuan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: test(proxy): catalog https://review.openstack.org/46769 | 16:37 |
kgriffs | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Marconi/Incubation/Graduation | 16:46 |
acabrera | +1, kgriffs | 16:47 |
acabrera | It solidifies our midterm goals | 16:47 |
openstackgerrit | Zhihao Yuan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: test(proxy): catalog https://review.openstack.org/46769 | 16:47 |
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kgriffs | guys, I was just thinking that we won't be able to get pylru into global-requirements until icehouse opens up - there will be a freeze while havana is cut | 16:52 |
kgriffs | fortunately, simplejson is already in there | 16:53 |
acabrera | hmm, that's unfortunate... | 16:56 |
acabrera | when does icehouse open up? | 16:57 |
acabrera | (we might be able to embed pylru if we need to until then, as a temporary workaround) | 16:57 |
acabrera | kgriffs: ^^ | 16:57 |
kgriffs | not sure on icehouse… I am assuming late october | 16:59 |
kgriffs | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Havana_Release_Schedule | 16:59 |
acabrera | makes sense, given that schedule. | 17:00 |
acabrera | cutting the ice. :) | 17:00 |
kgriffs | embedding it i think would be an OK short-term workaround | 17:01 |
kgriffs | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_License#GPL_compatibility | 17:01 |
kgriffs | heh | 17:01 |
kgriffs | (pylru is GPL) | 17:01 |
kgriffs | "Yes eventlet works well on PyPy, both Marconi and Swift use it." | 17:03 |
kgriffs | w00t | 17:04 |
kgriffs | we REALLY need to load-test that | 17:04 |
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acabrera | oh yes. | 17:05 |
acabrera | also, regarding eventlet | 17:05 |
acabrera | #link https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/6#issuecomment-22100946 | 17:06 |
acabrera | I'm sure I've mentioned it before. :P | 17:06 |
kgriffs | hmm, are they dropping support for 2.6 then? | 17:08 |
kgriffs | afaik we still need that | 17:08 |
acabrera | nah, they shouldn't need to drop 2.6 support | 17:10 |
acabrera | ultimately, it'll be up to the contributor that implements it, but one can get py26, py27, py32, and py33 all running one one codebase. | 17:10 |
kgriffs | fyi, just triaged: https://bugs.launchpad.net/marconi/+bug/1208873 | 17:15 |
openstackgerrit | Kurt Griffiths proposed a change to openstack/marconi: chore: Update Falcon dep to allow version 0.1.7 https://review.openstack.org/46775 | 17:20 |
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acabrera | I won't be making any more changes to the first proxy patches. I'm in agreement with zyuan that we need to start merging these with the caveat that they should not be used yet. | 18:27 |
acabrera | kgriffs, flaper87|afk: ^^ | 18:27 |
acabrera | Having a dependency chain that's >2 patches long is getting rather unwieldly. | 18:28 |
kgriffs | oic | 18:28 |
kgriffs | hmm | 18:28 |
acabrera | If we pursue this route, I'll create an etherpad of issues that the proxy has as-is. | 18:29 |
kgriffs | let's do that as a first step regardless | 18:30 |
acabrera | +1 | 18:30 |
acabrera | https://etherpad.openstack.org/marconi-proxy-issues | 18:30 |
acabrera | kgriffs, zyuan: ^^ | 18:34 |
acabrera | I've noted the most prominent existing issues, as well as the patches I believe we should get merged soon. | 18:43 |
acabrera | I'm tackling the select issues atm. | 18:47 |
acabrera | class RoundRobin, gooooo~ | 18:47 |
malini | GET queues with a bad marker is returning http 200 with the list of queues. I think we agreed on & used to return 204s in this case. Anybody knows if the 200s are intentional ? | 19:09 |
acabrera | that sounds like a bug | 19:12 |
zyuan | it's not a bug | 19:12 |
zyuan | bad marker is regarded as non-existing ones | 19:13 |
malini | zyuan: thts my understanding as well | 19:13 |
malini | shudnt it be a 204 in tht case? | 19:14 |
zyuan | you are not accesing the marker | 19:14 |
malini | zyuan: can u explain further? | 19:14 |
zyuan | wait, i need to take a look at the code. this might be changed | 19:16 |
malini | I think the code changed too.. | 19:17 |
zyuan | the code currently behave as if the marker is not sent | 19:18 |
zyuan | like, disappeared in paramether | 19:18 |
malini | what prompted this change?It used to treat it as non existing & return 204. | 19:19 |
acabrera | hmm... that's some weirdness. | 19:20 |
zyuan | i remembered | 19:22 |
zyuan | yes it looks weird | 19:23 |
zyuan | but the thing it | 19:23 |
zyuan | its | 19:23 |
zyuan | is | 19:23 |
zyuan | it can not be fixed | 19:23 |
zyuan | because there is no way to recognize all invalid markers | 19:24 |
zyuan | at least in mongo | 19:24 |
zyuan | so i implemented it in the trivial way: | 19:24 |
zyuan | compare the marker (None) with others without testing whether it's None or not | 19:25 |
zyuan | and the result is all others are "larger" then None (in database, not Python, don't worry about python 3) | 19:25 |
zyuan | an interesting "feature" related to this is: | 19:26 |
zyuan | you can use marker='a' (where there is no queue named 'a') | 19:27 |
zyuan | to list queues starts with 'a' | 19:27 |
zyuan | sry, the marker=None one only applies to list messages | 19:28 |
malini | zyuan: can you update https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Marconi/specs/api/v1/errors page to reflect the non-existing markers | 19:29 |
kgriffs | malini: can you give an example of a "bad" marker? | 19:29 |
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zyuan | i just realize that no queue marker is "bad" -_- | 19:29 |
malini | kgriffs: non existing marker | 19:29 |
malini | ?marker=nonexisting | 19:30 |
ametts | kgriffs: We get bad markers all the time when people leave the caps off after using the whiteboard. | 19:30 |
zyuan | ametts: -_-||| | 19:30 |
kgriffs | oh man, that's a shame | 19:30 |
kgriffs | sounds like you guys need some more training | 19:30 |
zyuan | oh, btw | 19:30 |
zyuan | biggest reason: | 19:30 |
zyuan | queue can be deleted | 19:30 |
zyuan | and the marker should still work | 19:30 |
kgriffs | malini: so, i think we just do a range comparison | 19:30 |
kgriffs | i.e., "give me everything with marker > 5' | 19:31 |
acabrera | lol ametts - bad markers... | 19:31 |
kgriffs | that being said, we could check to make sure it's an int | 19:31 |
zyuan | kgriffs: you mixed message markers with queue markers too -_- | 19:31 |
kgriffs | ah crap | 19:32 |
kgriffs | you're right | 19:32 |
zyuan | queue markers are just queue names.... | 19:32 |
malini | I am cool with the current behavior. We just need to update the docs to reflect the code https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Marconi/specs/api/v1/errors | 19:32 |
kgriffs | queue "marker" is a name, alphabetical | 19:32 |
kgriffs | btw, what happens when someone lists messages with a non-integral marker? | 19:32 |
kgriffs | should be a 400 | 19:32 |
malini | need to leave now, will be back online in an hour | 19:32 |
zyuan | decode -> None | 19:32 |
kgriffs | ok, let me update that page | 19:32 |
zyuan | id > None? | 19:33 |
zyuan | no | 19:33 |
zyuan | 204 | 19:33 |
zyuan | this one should be 204; i mixed queue markers and message markers at begining -_- | 19:33 |
zyuan | T_T | 19:33 |
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acabrera | I'm almost done preparing the mongo proxy storage driver, from which we can branch and start working on oslo.cache integration. | 19:35 |
zyuan | kgriffs: it's not 400 since the message marker format is opaque; it just happens to be an integral | 19:35 |
zyuan | ametts: O-O | 19:35 |
zyuan | acabrera: O-O | 19:36 |
zyuan | -_ | 19:36 |
zyuan | - | 19:36 |
acabrera | lol auto-complete... | 19:36 |
zyuan | T_T | 19:36 |
zyuan | i want you to immediately change the id back | 19:36 |
acabrera | :P | 19:37 |
zyuan | i @ed my booooss! | 19:37 |
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cppcabrera | zyuan: :D | 19:39 |
zyuan | cppcabrera: thanks ^_^ | 19:39 |
cppcabrera | that should solve the latest set of autocomplete bugs | 19:39 |
zyuan | i realized that i need to create a diamond dependency... | 19:49 |
cppcabrera | zyuan: ? | 19:49 |
zyuan | forward test code depends on 3 proxy patch and my 2 test patches | 19:50 |
zyuan | 1 2 3 | 19:50 |
zyuan | \a b | 19:50 |
cppcabrera | yikes | 19:50 |
cppcabrera | ... | 19:50 |
zyuan | ... | 19:50 |
cppcabrera | all the more reason to get things merged soon. | 19:51 |
zyuan | merge them! | 19:51 |
cppcabrera | I want to run this plan by both kgriffs and flaper87|afk tomorrow morning. | 19:51 |
cppcabrera | after that, I think we can start alleviating this patchy headache. | 19:51 |
zyuan | here is what i want to achive: | 19:52 |
zyuan | merge the existing redis impl and tests | 19:52 |
zyuan | to ensure them work! | 19:52 |
zyuan | then try to refactor and extend them | 19:52 |
cppcabrera | +1 | 19:56 |
cppcabrera | I like the idea, and I'm in a bit of a tough spot, too, since there's proof of concept cruft I need to clean up. | 19:57 |
cppcabrera | Especially relating to how round robin selection works atm. | 19:57 |
cppcabrera | I'm heading home for the day, though. I'll write an email about the situation before I go. | 19:57 |
openstackgerrit | Zhihao Yuan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: test(proxy): partition related endpoints tested https://review.openstack.org/46362 | 20:01 |
zyuan | retry jenkins | 20:01 |
openstackgerrit | Zhihao Yuan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: test(proxy): catalog tested https://review.openstack.org/46769 | 20:05 |
zyuan | retry jenkins | 20:05 |
cppcabrera | I'm out for the night. Take care, everyone. :) | 20:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhihao Yuan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: fix(test): shutdown the server in functional test https://review.openstack.org/46573 | 20:07 |
openstackgerrit | Zhihao Yuan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: test(proxy): catalog tested https://review.openstack.org/46769 | 20:08 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/marconi: Update .gitreview for incubation org move https://review.openstack.org/46628 | 20:58 |
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