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| alcabrera | Good morning! | 13:46 |
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| flaper87 | alcabrera: goood morning! | 13:52 |
| flaper87 | how are you doing? | 13:52 |
| flaper87 | Any plans for tonight? | 13:52 |
| alcabrera | flaper87: I'm doing great! No particular plans for tonight. Maybe going out for coffee with my wife. :) | 13:55 |
| alcabrera | How about you? | 13:55 |
| flaper87 | I'm doing fine, I finally fixed my broken OS and it seems to be back to normal | 13:57 |
| alcabrera | yaaaay | 13:57 |
| alcabrera | I'm glad. | 13:57 |
| flaper87 | I guess I'll go downtown and check the fireworks | 13:57 |
| alcabrera | 2044 dup'd packages -> 0 | 13:57 |
| flaper87 | haha, yeah... that was a really painful process | 13:57 |
| alcabrera | cool. If you do, take pictures with your awesome new camera! ;) | 13:58 |
| flaper87 | I ended up with an algo that would group them by name, reinstall them for fed20 and uninstall the f19 one | 13:58 |
| flaper87 | it was a long process, not all of them could be grouped and some had really nasty dependency chains | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | anyway, it's over now | 13:59 |
| alcabrera | yes, yes. At that point, I would've backed up my configs and data and just reformatted the thing. :P | 13:59 |
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| flaper87 | hahaha, something tells me I'll end up doing that... I'm way too paranoid | 14:03 |
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| alcabrera | The python 3 discussion is getting pretty exciting. | 14:13 |
| alcabrera | All sorts of talk about reconsidering Python 2.8, using 3to2, providing an interpretter that runs in dual-mode - I think this means we're getting close to a tipping point. :) | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | yeah | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | 2 things that I don't like, though | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | 1) This was mentioned way back, I think even before saying 2.7 was going to be the last version release for the 2.X series | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | 2) This now looks like: "It took us long to figure out something was wrong, lets fix it by 'patching' the bridge with a new release" | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | don't get me wrong, I think the idea kinda makes sense | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | however, that makes me think that some times communities are led by 'popularity' instead of 'objectiveness' | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | sometimes* | 14:18 |
| alcabrera | I agree. | 14:18 |
| alcabrera | Evolving a language is a hard thing. | 14:19 |
| alcabrera | It's an API, only larger than that. | 14:19 |
| alcabrera | Doing a major version jump is no small order, since it will affect all programs written in that language. | 14:19 |
| alcabrera | The art of making that jump is still being discovered, I think. | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | but that's my honest opinion. I personally never spoke up about the whole Py3K issues but I really hate to see things moving because of some folks popularity | 14:19 |
| alcabrera | I haven't spoken up about it very much, other the occasional comment on using compatible syntax. | 14:21 |
| alcabrera | I'm happy to see the discussions happening again. | 14:21 |
| alcabrera | The blogosphere exploded last night about it;. | 14:22 |
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| malini | good morning!! | 15:10 |
| flaper87 | malini: goooood morning | 15:11 |
| malini | flaper87: you are almost at 2014!! | 15:11 |
| flaper87 | malini: I am! I'm 8h away from it! | 15:12 |
| malini | to finish up 2013, can I get some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63449/ ;) ? | 15:12 |
| flaper87 | I'll let you know what it looks like as soon as I get there | 15:12 |
| malini | only +1s plzzzz :D | 15:12 |
| flaper87 | :D | 15:12 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: could you pls review this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60223/ | 15:12 |
| malini | Its the tempest patch & nobody in the QA world has looked at it | 15:12 |
| flaper87 | ykaplan's laste patch depends on that | 15:12 |
| flaper87 | malini: looking at it | 15:13 |
| malini | I am planning to start bugging QA folks if I can get a few +1s | 15:13 |
| malini | flaper87: awesome..thanks!! | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | why did you change the cinder part? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63449/6/etc/tempest.conf.sample | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | I mean, was that you or the script? | 15:13 |
| malini | flaper87: tht was the script's doing | 15:14 |
| flaper87 | malini: kk | 15:14 |
| malini | it looked weird to me too :) | 15:14 |
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| flaper87 | malini: are the setUpClass and tearDownClass really needed? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63449/6/tempest/api/queuing/base.py | 15:14 |
| flaper87 | I really discourage using them | 15:15 |
| flaper87 | TBH | 15:15 |
| malini | flaper87: you prefer a test case level setup? | 15:15 |
| flaper87 | it looks like it could be done with setUp / tearDown | 15:15 |
| flaper87 | yeah, messing with the class tends to break tests isolation | 15:15 |
| flaper87 | which scares me most than earthquakes | 15:16 |
| flaper87 | and yes, earthquakes scare the hell out of me :D | 15:16 |
| malini | flaper87: thts a valid argument.. | 15:16 |
| malini | Let me chk if other tempest tests have setUp/tearDown - just to make sure they dont have anything against it :) | 15:17 |
| flaper87 | If they have something against it, let me know, I'll happily speak up! | 15:17 |
| flaper87 | I'm dropping a comment there, anyway | 15:18 |
| flwang | wow, I assume i'm the last one working on this time | 15:18 |
| flaper87 | flwang: yeah :D | 15:18 |
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| malini | flwang: you are wayy ahead of us :) | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | malini: is everything a class method there? | 15:19 |
| malini | flaper87: yes | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | I mean, in tempest | 15:19 |
| flwang | flaper87: oh, no, you're here always | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | oh boy | 15:19 |
| flwang | :D | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | malini: that's really ugly | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | flwang: :D | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | What could I possibly be doing? | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | and by "I" I actually meant "a workaholic" | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | malini: ah, but that's just the base class | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | nevermind, I thought that was kind of a tempest rule | 15:20 |
| flwang | flaper87: i need some new tasks | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | malini: If you can avoid using setting things in the class, it's better | 15:20 |
| malini | flaper87: I think it makes sense to keep the config, setting up client etc. can live in the setupClass | 15:20 |
| malini | flaper87: But stuff like creating queues can be in the setUp/tearDown | 15:21 |
| flaper87 | malini: cool | 15:21 |
| flaper87 | flwang: want to work on the client ? | 15:21 |
| flwang | flaper87: it's ok for me :) | 15:22 |
| flwang | flaper87: i'm looking at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/marconi/+bug/1258618 | 15:22 |
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| flaper87 | flwang: that looks critical indeed | 15:23 |
| flaper87 | flwang: stab that one then :D | 15:23 |
| flwang | flaper87: does it mean we need a way to update the shard status after the mongo db is updated/removed/xxxx? | 15:24 |
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| cpallares | are we not having a meeting today? | 15:26 |
| flaper87 | if you want to work on the client, you can download this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63426/ and help me with implementing the health endpoint in the queue | 15:26 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: I don't think so | 15:26 |
| cpallares | hi flaper87! | 15:27 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: heeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyy | 15:27 |
| cpallares | :D | 15:27 |
| flwang | flaper87: did you mean a separate patch depends on yours? | 15:28 |
| flaper87 | flwang: yup | 15:29 |
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| flwang | flaper87: ok, will take a look, need sometime to warm up | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Kurt Griffiths proposed a change to openstack/marconi: chore: Sync local (marconi) requirements with global reqs. https://review.openstack.org/64556 | 15:33 |
| flaper87 | flwang: no worries, you've got until next year to do that | 15:33 |
| flaper87 | :D | 15:33 |
| flaper87 | o.0 kgriffs_afk ? | 15:34 |
| flwang | flaper87: yep, new task for 2014 | 15:34 |
| flwang | flaper87: I'm still outside the Marconi's gate | 15:34 |
| * alcabrera catches up, missed ~80 messages or so | 15:35 | |
| flwang | flaper87: I think I need to dedicate sometime on that to pick it up | 15:35 |
| cpallares | good morning alcabrera! | 15:35 |
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| * alcabrera is now caught up | 15:36 | |
| alcabrera | cpallares: good morning! :) | 15:36 |
| alcabrera | malini, flaper87: I learned something interesting about (setup|teardown)Class a bit ago. | 15:37 |
| alcabrera | I believe testtools doesn't support them at all, and just ignores them. | 15:37 |
| malini | alcabrera: really? | 15:37 |
| alcabrera | The whole notion of *Class was introduced in Python 2.7 | 15:37 |
| alcabrera | for the unittest module | 15:37 |
| alcabrera | I have to double check on testtools, but I know python 2.6 doesn't support it. :/ | 15:38 |
| malini | It makes sense to use setUpClass for setting up http client, reading config etc. | 15:39 |
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| alcabrera | malini: nvm, I verified testtools supports setUpClass. | 15:43 |
| alcabrera | Now I'm concerned as to why I have this memory. | 15:43 |
| alcabrera | :( | 15:43 |
| alcabrera | malini: http://paste.openstack.org/show/58994/ (just swap testtools for unittest - works for both) | 15:45 |
| alcabrera | flaper87: now reviewing. :D | 15:45 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: awesome, thanks! | 15:46 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: you already +1'd it | 15:47 |
| alcabrera | flaper87: changed my review slightly. | 15:50 |
| alcabrera | I'm ready to +2, once the commit message is updated. | 15:50 |
| alcabrera | "Partially implements blueprint sql-thing" | 15:50 |
| alcabrera | ykaplan: ^ | 15:50 |
| alcabrera | ykaplan: also, thanks for working on this! | 15:50 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: that's indeed a good point | 15:50 |
| flaper87 | :D | 15:50 |
| alcabrera | :) | 15:51 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: added the same comment to the new one | 15:51 |
| flaper87 | :D | 15:51 |
| flaper87 | thanks for noticing | 15:51 |
| flaper87 | kk, stepping out for a bit | 15:52 |
| alcabrera | thanks, flaper87! | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/marconi: DRY queues storage error message format https://review.openstack.org/62701 | 16:51 |
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| flaper87 | stepping out for the night guys | 16:56 |
| flaper87 | Happy new year to everyone! | 16:57 |
| alcabrera | flaper87: you, too! Take care and enjoy! :D | 16:57 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: Thanks a lot, you too! | 16:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cindy Pallares proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Added a request and response file to common https://review.openstack.org/61476 | 17:06 |
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| JayF | If I'm running multiple marconi instances against a single backend DB, should I also configure them with a shared memcached cluster? | 19:06 |
| JayF | And if so, what's the syntax for the config to specify multiple memcached backends? Doesn't appear to be a lot of operational documentation on running marconi that I can find :/ | 19:08 |
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| kgriffs | JayF: oz_akan_ has some experience deploying Marconi. I have been bugging him to write up a guide. :p | 19:41 |
| oz_akan_ | we plan to open source salt formulas where how we deploy it is clearly seen and for sure some documentation on top of it would be helpful, lets make it 2014 resolution | 19:43 |
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| JayF | 2014 resolutions are nice, but I'm hoping to ship this into a staging environment in 2 weeks ;) | 20:53 |
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| JayF | Perhaps someone could even help out by adding some additional comments and some missing config directives/examples to the example config? For instance, the cache backend stuff isn't even documented here at all: https://github.com/openstack/marconi/blob/master/etc/marconi.conf-sample -- the only reason I knew it existed was from the configs for a docker image here https://github.com/bentwire/marconi-simple/blob/master/marconi.conf | 20:58 |
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| kgriffs | JayF: good idea | 21:01 |
| kgriffs | oz_akan_: I can haz patch for that? | 21:01 |
| kgriffs | ;) | 21:01 |
| kgriffs | flaper87|afk: ^^^ | 21:02 |
| JayF | also if any of you are interested, I have a standalone marconi docker image that I spun up against trusty, using mpanetta's as a starting point -> https://index.docker.io/u/jayofdoom/trusty-marconi-standalone/ -- that's what we're developing our product against right now, if anyone would find it useful please use it, and PRs accepted to make it better :) | 21:03 |
| kgriffs | cool | 21:04 |
| kgriffs | JayF: I'll rally the troops when everyone gets back from vacation | 21:04 |
| JayF | Well I'm going to try to get a staging-happy copy of this deployed in the next week or two, so I might have to feel my way through for starters :) | 21:05 |
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| JayF | FWIW; for anyone maybe reading this backlog later; looks like memcached is only useful if you're sharding, which I'm not, so I'm running without a shared cache backend :) | 21:29 |
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