Sunday, 2014-05-11

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vkmckgriffs|afk, Should 'Your first review' contain information about how to do a review... or about how to submit a patch to review?00:29
vkmcCurrently is the latter00:29
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vkmckgriffs, ^^01:10
kgriffshmm, let me think01:10
kgriffshow to do a review. It should say something about how much we need and rely on everyone to help review code. It's the cheapest way to discover bugs01:11
kgriffsbasically, I want new contributors to know what a good, thorough review i01:11
kgriffsis01:11
kgriffsand give them tips like, try to say something nice01:11
vkmcSo... the idea is to provide tips on how to review code... not on how to submit code for review01:12
kgriffstalk about how a -1 is common just to flag a review as "here are some comments you should look at01:12
kgriffsvkmc: correct01:12
vkmcSomething like this? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReviewChecklist01:12
kgriffsand if you are the patch author, respond to comments and then just use a score of "0"01:13
vkmcCool :)01:13
kgriffsvkmc: yeah, that page is a good foundation. We should recommend they read that01:13
kgriffsand then give them more advice01:13
kgriffs:)01:14
kgriffsalso, if there is anything unique to marconi, we should talk about that.01:14
vkmcYeah... we can set it up so we have some content for Tuesday01:14
kgriffsit may take a few weeks of tweaking, and adding stuff as we think of it during our day-to-day work01:14
vkmcAnd continue polishing later01:15
vkmcSure!01:15
kgriffsvkmc: sounds good, let's get a good start there. and then just keep thinking about it. be observant and when you notice things we do as a team and normally take for granted, let's document that01:15
kgriffssame goes for all of these docs, really01:15
kgriffs:)01:15
vkmcWill do!01:16
kgriffsjust thought of one thing you can include01:16
vkmcAnd yeah... docs are hard to keep updated, but we can do it01:16
kgriffsthe reviewer should check that if a patch is changing the API, the client should also be updated01:16
vkmcGood point01:17
kgriffsso, stuff like that. all the tribal knowledge needs to get documented01:18
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kgriffsI want us to lead by example there01:18
kgriffsshow other programs how to be more inclusive of "outsiders"01:18
* kgriffs has all kinds of hidden agendas ;)01:18
vkmcYeah, in the end those little things are the most important01:18
vkmc+101:19
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vkmcIs awesome that Marconi does that... it's a true open-source project :)01:20
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kgriffsyou need open minds to build an open cloud. :)01:31
kgriffsactually, let me rephrase01:31
kgriffsyou need open arms to build an open cloud01:31
vkmcI vote for both!01:32
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