| say3no | hi | 07:00 |
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| masahito | o/ | 07:00 |
| do-gyun | hi | 07:01 |
| noonedeadpunk | o/ | 07:02 |
| say3no | #startmeeting masakari | 07:02 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Mon Dec 22 07:02:12 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is say3no. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:02 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:02 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 07:02 |
| say3no | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/masakari_restart_2025_12_22 | 07:02 |
| say3no | I’ve been an OpenStack user for a long time, but I’m still new as a contributor, so I may not be following the right etiquette. If I’m missing anything or doing something incorrectly, please let me know. | 07:03 |
| noonedeadpunk | no worries at all :) | 07:03 |
| masahito | np, thanks for the reboot activity :) | 07:04 |
| say3no | Thanks for joining today. I’ve listed a few topics for the Masakari reboot on the Etherpad. If you’re attending, please also add your name to the “Attendees” section. | 07:04 |
| noonedeadpunk | ++ | 07:04 |
| say3no | Okay, so I don’t need to include my company affiliation. Got it—learned something today. | 07:05 |
| hi-koba | sorry... please post the etherpad URL. | 07:05 |
| noonedeadpunk | well, you can if you want to | 07:05 |
| say3no | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/masakari_restart_2025_12_22 | 07:06 |
| noonedeadpunk | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/masakari_restart_2025_12_22 | 07:06 |
| hi-koba | thank you! | 07:06 |
| noonedeadpunk | (hashtag is better highlighted in logs) | 07:06 |
| say3no | For today’s timekeeping: let’s take about 10 minutes first to read through the Etherpad. Please add any thoughts or notes you have. After that, we’ll go through the discussion topics and spend roughly 5–10 minutes on each item. | 07:08 |
| masahito | got it. | 07:08 |
| masahito | FYI: the meeting log is stored under the https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/masakari/ link and the hashtag creates the meeting summary page. | 07:09 |
| masahito | nova team sample: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-12-15-16.03.html | 07:09 |
| masahito | full meeting log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-12-15-16.03.log.html | 07:10 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/masakari master: Replace deprecated warn method https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/masakari/+/971198 | 07:11 |
| say3no | At 16:15, we’ll move on to the discussion topics. | 07:13 |
| noonedeadpunk | timezone is really confusing here :D | 07:15 |
| say3no | sorry | 07:15 |
| say3no | It’s now 16:15 JST (07:15 UTC), so let’s start going through each topic. | 07:16 |
| say3no | First, I suggest we set the IRC meeting schedule to bi-weekly on Mondays, 07:00–08:00 UTC (16:00–17:00 JST). | 07:18 |
| do-gyun | good | 07:18 |
| masahito | +1 | 07:19 |
| noonedeadpunk | one small downside on bi-weekly meetings is that it's harder to keep track of them | 07:19 |
| noonedeadpunk | but it seems there's not many actions anyway expected in the meanwhile, so makes total sensde | 07:19 |
| noonedeadpunk | *sense | 07:20 |
| say3no | In the short term, we can keep it bi-weekly and consider switching to weekly if needed. | 07:20 |
| say3no | Second, merge rule: | 07:21 |
| say3no | I agree with reflecting diversity across affiliations in our merge process | 07:21 |
| say3no | but I’m wondering whether there’s any way to enforce that as a mechanical rule in Gerrit/Zuul. For now, should we handle it as a guideline and rely on operational practice? | 07:22 |
| noonedeadpunk | no, there's none | 07:22 |
| noonedeadpunk | it's pretty much administrative-only thing for other projects as well | 07:22 |
| masahito | yup | 07:23 |
| say3no | ok | 07:23 |
| masahito | i guess only you have +2 privildge, so if you wait other's +1, it's no problem. | 07:24 |
| masahito | s/privildge/privilege/ | 07:25 |
| say3no | OK—I’ll use my core privileges responsibly. | 07:26 |
| say3no | Next, How to drive feature development | 07:26 |
| say3no | To be honest, there isn’t much room for discussion here—this is more of a confirmation that “this is really the only practical way to do it,” right? | 07:27 |
| noonedeadpunk | Maybe while there're not enough core reviewers available, I think it would be reasonable to say that some trivial fixes and patches are fine to self-merge even... | 07:27 |
| say3no | If that need ever comes up, I’ll make sure to raise it properly in this forum. | 07:29 |
| noonedeadpunk | ++ | 07:30 |
| noonedeadpunk | I can't really comment on features so far as well as what are ppl struggling with | 07:30 |
| noonedeadpunk | one thing I could never understood, why not to use more "default" things for hostmonitor | 07:30 |
| noonedeadpunk | like tooz or oslo.messaging | 07:31 |
| noonedeadpunk | and require third party clusters, which are not only opinionated, but also all have limitations - if not scale-wise, but then license-wise or anything else | 07:32 |
| masahito | imo, ptg is a place to discuss ONLINE for a deep discussion. so as long as the upstream members are ok some feature development can skip the ptg discussion. | 07:33 |
| noonedeadpunk | I'd say it's too late for development this cycle anyway.... | 07:33 |
| masahito | right | 07:34 |
| noonedeadpunk | But to add smth for ptg and for upcoming discussion, it might be fine to through some ideas around | 07:34 |
| masahito | gazpacho schedule is here. https://releases.openstack.org/gazpacho/schedule.html | 07:34 |
| noonedeadpunk | so everyone could think on what they want and how they see the project going on :D | 07:34 |
| masahito | the feature freeze is Feb-23rd. almost two months till the date | 07:35 |
| do-gyun | I think so too about host monitor. I'm actually using Kubernetes drivers for licensing issues. | 07:35 |
| masahito | i'd say we can keep talking the ideas all of us are thinking and running house-cleanup tasks are good for the G release cycle. | 07:36 |
| masahito | instead of big feature development now. | 07:37 |
| say3no | indeed | 07:38 |
| say3no | In any case, I’m happy to see that we’re having this kind of discussion about Masakari and the related membership software. | 07:38 |
| say3no | That said, I think we need to focus on steadily rebooting Masakari for now. | 07:39 |
| say3no | By the way, I’m drafting this while translating with an LLM, so the nuance might be a bit off—sorry about that. | 07:40 |
| say3no | We touched on this briefly, but I’d like to align on our short-term goals leading up to the Gazpacho release. | 07:41 |
| say3no | For now, I think our goal is to make sure Masakari is in good shape for the Gazpacho release—essentially, to do the maintenance work needed so it can be included. | 07:44 |
| say3no | As a first step to bring the project back to life, I’d like to complete the “housecleaning” tasks by February. | 07:44 |
| say3no | I know many of you have topics along the lines of “this part isn’t great” or areas you’d like to improve. For those, I’d like us to continue discussing them on IRC and through specs. | 07:44 |
| do-gyun | Yes, I also want to actively participate. | 07:47 |
| say3no | :) | 07:47 |
| say3no | Alright, let’s move on to closing. | 07:50 |
| masahito | ah, is next meeting Jan-5th? | 07:52 |
| say3no | yes | 07:52 |
| do-gyun | ok | 07:52 |
| masahito | got it. I'll be PTO till the 7th. so I'll join the meeting on 19th next time :) | 07:53 |
| say3no | I’d like to send an email to the PTL and to openstack-discuss with the following points, and then wait for the PTL’s response before proceeding: | 07:55 |
| say3no | Regular IRC meeting schedule / cadence: bi-weekly on Mondays, 07:00–08:00 UTC (16:00–17:00 JST) | 07:55 |
| say3no | We’ll consider switching to weekly if needed. | 07:55 |
| say3no | Merge rule: | 07:55 |
| say3no | The patch author and the reviewer/merger should be from different affiliations whenever possible. As a core reviewer (me), I will wait for a +1 from someone else before merging. | 07:55 |
| say3no | If self-merge ever becomes necessary, I will raise it in the IRC meeting. | 07:55 |
| say3no | Short-term goal: do project maintenance leading up to the Gazpacho release. | 07:55 |
| masahito | #agree Regular IRC meeting schedule / cadence: bi-weekly on Mondays, 07:00–08:00 UTC (16:00–17:00 JST) | 07:56 |
| masahito | #agreed The patch author and the reviewer/merger should be from different affiliations whenever possible. As a core reviewer (me), I will wait for a +1 from someone else before merging. | 07:56 |
| masahito | #agreed Regular IRC meeting schedule / cadence: bi-weekly on Mondays, 07:00–08:00 UTC (16:00–17:00 JST) | 07:56 |
| masahito | #agreed Short-term goal: do project maintenance leading up to the Gazpacho release. | 07:56 |
| masahito | hastag is useful to record :) | 07:57 |
| noonedeadpunk | ++ | 07:57 |
| say3no | Next time, let’s use hashtags like agree or vote. | 07:58 |
| say3no | That concludes today’s meeting. Thank you all for joining. | 07:59 |
| say3no | #endmeeting | 07:59 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Mon Dec 22 07:59:53 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:59 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/masakari/2025/masakari.2025-12-22-07.02.html | 07:59 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/masakari/2025/masakari.2025-12-22-07.02.txt | 07:59 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/masakari/2025/masakari.2025-12-22-07.02.log.html | 07:59 |
| masahito | thanks. | 08:00 |
| *** tkajinam_ is now known as tkajinam | 09:45 | |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/masakari master: Declare Python 3.13 support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/masakari/+/971611 | 12:12 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/python-masakariclient master: add pyproject.toml to support pip 23.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-masakariclient/+/971615 | 12:14 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/python-masakariclient master: Update supported python versions https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-masakariclient/+/971616 | 12:14 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/masakari-monitors master: add pyproject.toml to support pip 23.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/masakari-monitors/+/971617 | 12:15 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/python-masakariclient master: Remove support for Python 3.8 and 3.9 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-masakariclient/+/961495 | 12:26 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/masakari-dashboard master: Remove unicode prefix from code https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/masakari-dashboard/+/954157 | 12:26 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/python-masakariclient master: Remove unnecessary hacking from test reqs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-masakariclient/+/961496 | 12:31 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/python-masakariclient master: add pyproject.toml to support pip 23.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-masakariclient/+/971615 | 15:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/masakari-monitors master: add pyproject.toml to support pip 23.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/masakari-monitors/+/971617 | 15:33 |
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