Thursday, 2014-02-27

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carl_baldwinHi15:00
haleybhi carl15:00
carl_baldwinWell, let's get started.  I'm not sure how this is going to go.15:01
carl_baldwin#startmeeting neutron_l315:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 27 15:01:48 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'15:01
carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam15:02
carl_baldwinI don't have anything to announce so I'll go in to the agenda15:02
carl_baldwin#topic DVR15:02
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carl_baldwinIs Swami around today?15:03
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carl_baldwinThere was nothing new from the DVR meeting yesterday as Swami had a conflict15:03
haleybi don't see swami on any channels15:03
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carl_baldwinhi Swami15:04
Swamihi15:04
carl_baldwinYou're right on time.  Anything you want to say about DVR?15:04
SwamiWe are working on the Design doc.15:04
SwamiThe L2 design doc is probably ready for review, but still we need to complete the L3 design doc15:05
SwamiI am planning to push at least the L2 design doc by the end of this week for the community review.15:05
carl_baldwinGood progress.  I'll be watching for it.15:06
SwamiI don't have anything else from my side.15:06
carl_baldwinI'm anxious to see it.15:06
carl_baldwinThank you.15:06
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SwamiCarl: Thanks for running the DVR meeting yesterday15:06
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carl_baldwinIt was lonely.  :'(15:07
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SwamiYes I did see the logs.15:07
carl_baldwin#topic HA Routers15:07
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carl_baldwinIf I'm not mistaken, safchain is on vacation still.15:07
carl_baldwinReview of the HA routers code is in progress.15:08
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/l3-high-availability,n,z15:08
carl_baldwin#help Reviews needed.15:09
Swamicarl: I will review it.15:09
carl_baldwinsafchain has stopped in from time to time to respond to reviews.15:09
carl_baldwinThere was proposal by amuller to follow up with active/active.  It is worth a peak.15:10
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carl_baldwinLet me find the link.15:10
carl_baldwin#link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UsmwdNST1Ni_UP8nhewKdKkNre3MkZ9fO481l-fRjnA/edit15:11
Swamicarl: I had a question related to the HA for routers. When DVR is available the current router HA will be of limited use other than the HA for the Service node where we have the default SNAT, how do we address this.15:11
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carl_baldwinI've wondered that myself.  I think it depends on the usefulness of other services that require a centralized L3 component like SNAT and VPN.15:13
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Swamiprobably it would be a great idea for the Juno summit to have a discussion on what are the components that have to be centralized and we can work on HA for those components or services.15:14
carl_baldwinI would like to have that discussion.  Do you think that HA for those components would build off of the current HA routers proposal?15:15
SwamiI was thinking on those lines, but I need to validate15:16
carl_baldwin#idea Have a discussion at the Juno summit about HA for centralized L3 services.15:16
SwamiThe HA infrastructure can be utilized.15:16
SwamiI will try to write up some content for the HA in centralized service nodes.15:17
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carl_baldwinIt does raise a question about the usefulness of the active/active proposal ^ as well.  Will that work for all centralized services?15:18
carl_baldwinThanks Swami15:18
carl_baldwin#topic L3 Agent Consolidation15:18
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carl_baldwinIs yamahata around?15:19
yamahatayes15:19
yamahataThe code is ready.15:19
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carl_baldwinI started a review of your code but need to finish.  I will review this week.15:19
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57627/15:20
carl_baldwinyamahata: Anything else to add?15:20
yamahatanothing else.15:20
carl_baldwin#help review code15:20
carl_baldwin#topic Service Type Framework15:21
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Swamiswami: will do15:21
carl_baldwinIs Gary around?15:21
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carl_baldwinDoesn't look like it.  I'll defer discussion about this until next week.  I hope I got his irc handle correct.15:22
carl_baldwin#topic Dynamic Routing15:23
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carl_baldwinThis is a topic I've been interested in.  I wanted to see if we could get any momentum on it for the Juno summit.15:24
Swamicarl: Is there a sub-team currently working on Dynamic routing, I thought that this was not the path that we were taking based on the icehouse summit discussions.15:24
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carl_baldwin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/bgp-dynamic-routing15:25
carl_baldwinI remember the discussion at the summit was a bit unfocused and it was decided that it was not ready.15:25
carl_baldwinMark's note on the blueprint was that it should be deferred.15:26
Swamithe decision at that time was to use the VM footprint and have all the dynamic routing handled in the VM.15:26
carl_baldwinThat may work for some use cases.15:27
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carl_baldwinAs I recall, there was no agreement at the summit about what use case we were all talking about.15:28
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carl_baldwinI think what needs to be done is to clarify the use case that the above blueprint is addressing and then create new bps for other use cases.15:30
Swamisounds good15:30
carl_baldwin#action carl_baldwin will clarify the description of the use case in the current bp to avoid the same confusion.15:31
carl_baldwinThe use case I've got interest in is different.  It is announcing floating ips to northbound routers on ext-net.  At least a few people at the summit had this in mind as well.15:32
Swamisounds reasonable15:34
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carl_baldwinSwami: thanks for the information.  I'll start working on that in a separate blueprint.15:34
carl_baldwin#topic DNS lookup of instances15:35
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carl_baldwinThis is the last topic that I have for today.15:35
carl_baldwinIt has been a pain point for us and I noticed a discussion about it in #openstack-neutron15:36
carl_baldwin#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/%23openstack-neutron.2014-02-21.log15:36
carl_baldwin^ See conversation around 2014-02-21T00:19:2015:36
carl_baldwinI'd like to generate some interest around working on two things:15:37
carl_baldwin1.  Reconciling instances hostnames and DNS names possibly with nova display name15:37
carl_baldwin#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/117521115:38
carl_baldwin2.  Integrate floating ip create/update/delete with external DNS service (e.g. DNSaaS)15:38
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carl_baldwinI have started thinking about it on my own and will begin working on a bp.  If anyone reading this now or later from the logs has interest, contact me.15:40
Swamicarl: i need to drop off15:40
carl_baldwinSwami: no problem.  I think we're about finished.15:40
Swamithanks15:40
carl_baldwin#topic General Discussion15:40
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carl_baldwinIs there anything anyone would like to bring up?15:41
carl_baldwinIf there is nothing else, I will wish you all well.  Until next time.15:44
carl_baldwin#endmeeting15:44
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