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| carl_baldwin | Greetings, all. L3 sub team meeting about to start. | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 6 15:01:52 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #info Daylight savings time for US starts this weekend. Next week’s team meeting will shift by an hour in the US. | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | Watch for your local daylight savings time for when the meeting will shift in your geography. | 15:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic l3-high-availability | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "l3-high-availability (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:04 | |
| carl_baldwin | Is safchain around? | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | Review of the code is still in progress. safchain has posted recent updates to the patches. | 15:05 |
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| Swami | hi carl | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | Hi Swami. Thanks for joining. | 15:05 |
| Swami | sorry I was a bit late | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | #info We've added some guides to reviewing and testing the l3-high-availability code. Available from the sub team page. | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic neuron-ovs-dvr | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "neuron-ovs-dvr (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:08 | |
| Swami | Hi carl | 15:08 |
| Swami | Yes we have uploaded the L2 design doc | 15:08 |
| Swami | Thanks Carl for bringing it to the ML2 teams attention | 15:08 |
| Swami | We will be providing feedback on any comments on the doc | 15:08 |
| Swami | I saw your comments and I will address all your comments | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | Happy to help. There were a few questions brought up in the meeting. | 15:09 |
| Swami | We are working on the L3 agent doc and will share with the team when it is ready | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | Great, looking forward to it. | 15:09 |
| Swami | In our meeting yesterday we also discussed about the utilizing the L3 VRRP HA for the DVR | 15:09 |
| Swami | Safchain mentioned that it should work. | 15:09 |
| Swami | By next week we might be able to split the tasks and start adding tasks to the Launchpad | 15:10 |
| Swami | That's all from my end. | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | Great to see the progress. Thank you. | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bgp-dynamic-routing (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:11 | |
| carl_baldwin | Is Artem around? I'm not sure what your IRC nickname is. | 15:12 |
| nextone92 | Good morning! | 15:12 |
| nextone92 | It's just 'nextone92' | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | Hi. Great. Now I know. | 15:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | There has been some interesting discussion on the blueprint this week. | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | Is there anything that you would like to highlight or discuss? | 15:13 |
| Swami | carl: is there a separate meeting on this. if so can you include me on that | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: No, but I should provide a link to the document. | 15:13 |
| Swami | carl: thanks | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://docs.google.com/a/ecbaldwin.net/document/d/1wUcgL6ZTqB14DsiNvGaA1Ao2Try5i5E7_VAzcavzTbY/edit#heading=h.l8nz0xz5ct46 | 15:14 |
| nextone92 | The basic use case for the dynamic routing is to automatically negotiate routes to/from OpenStack | 15:14 |
| Swami | I had one suggestion because the "BGP" is also used by the VPN service, can this be abstracted and then either used by the L3 service or by the VPN service | 15:14 |
| nextone92 | But it's written not to limit other use cases within OpenStack | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: I do recall that was brought up as a use case at the summit. My impression is that it is out of scope for this use case but I wonder what sort of abstraction can allow for that. | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | nextone92: Any thoughts on the VPN question? | 15:16 |
| Swami | There were couple of more blueprints that address the BGP support for the VPN services. | 15:16 |
| Swami | If we can combine all those and that create an abstract for the BGP then it would be great and it can be used against any services. | 15:16 |
| Swami | With respect to API/CLI we don't need to redo anything. | 15:17 |
| nextone92 | Swami, Carl - could VPN connection be abstracted as a gateway router? | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: Do you happen to have links handy for those bps? If not, could you add links to them to the sub team page? I'd like to review them. | 15:17 |
| Swami | ok will do | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | #action Swami will add links to BGP bps to sub team page under dynamic routing section. | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | I would like to review those and give it some thought. Maybe we can continue that discussion next week. | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will review BGP bps. | 15:19 |
| Swami | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-bgp-mpls-vpn | 15:19 |
| nextone92 | That sounds great! | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | nextone92: What are your thoughts on whether to peer individual neutron routers with upstream routers or to aggregate them in to fewer peers from the Neutron side? | 15:20 |
| nextone92 | For the purposes of connecting to the upstream networks/routers, I think the latter would be more efficient | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | I agree. It removes the scaling concerns that I had. | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | If that is the direction then I think the API changes section needs some work. | 15:22 |
| nextone92 | Would it be to scandalous to talk about a concept of "provider" routers? | 15:23 |
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| nextone92 | For example, a tenant router using a bgp enabled "provider" router for communication outside of OpenStack network | 15:23 |
| Swami | So in this case the bgp is not enable inside the openstack cloud and only enabled by the provider router. | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | nextone92: I think that should be considered. We would still need an open source implementation, no? | 15:24 |
| nextone92 | Absolutely | 15:25 |
| Swami | So it is just connecting your service node to a provider router. | 15:25 |
| nextone92 | Maybe a "provider" router could be an instance of quagga performing dynamic route exchange but not the actual traffic forwarding | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | nextone92: That is along the lines of what I was thinking but I wasn't thinking of it as a "provider router". I thought of it more as just a dynamic routing process. | 15:27 |
| Swami | Hi nextone92 could you please add an use case in your blueprint with a picture and a description on what you are proposing with respect to the provider router. | 15:27 |
| Swami | Also there was already a provider router blueprint out there. May be we need to take a look at that also. | 15:28 |
| nextone92 | Swami, that sounds good. I will add a more clear description of the main use case and try not to make it too restrictive so it can't be reused with the blueprint you have posted (neutron-bgp-mpls) | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | #action nextone92 will update bp. | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything else for this week? | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic l3-agent | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "l3-agent (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:30 | |
| carl_baldwin | Does anyone have anything to discuss (e.g. l3-agent-consolidation, l3-router-service-type-framework) | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | I did not have anything in mind... | 15:31 |
| Swami | Hi carl: Yesterday I saw a message from Mark that Agent consolidation was moved to Juno and it did not make the cut through for the Icehouse | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: Yes, he did add a note to the bp. Thanks for the reminder. | 15:32 |
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| carl_baldwin | There is code to review. It is linked to the blueprint. | 15:33 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic DNS | 15:34 |
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| carl_baldwin | This is one that I'm working on. I have a blueprint nearly done. I need to have my company review and approve but hopefully I can have it ready to review next week. | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | The basic idea is to reconcile DNS names in neutron with instance names. Then, integrate with DNSaaS. | 15:35 |
| Swami | sounds good | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin to finish blueprint for DNS instance lookup | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 15:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | markmcclain: Hi, anything for the L3 sub team? | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | Also, anyone else bring anything to discuss? | 15:38 |
| markmcclain | carl_baldwin: nothing from me | 15:38 |
| Swami | carl: nothing to add | 15:38 |
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| carl_baldwin | markmcclain: No problem, just saw you'd joined the room. | 15:38 |
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| carl_baldwin | If there is nothing else, I'll run off to another meeting. | 15:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | Thank you to those who joined. Until next week. | 15:41 |
| nextone92 | Thanks | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 15:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 6 15:41:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-03-06-15.01.html | 15:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-03-06-15.01.txt | 15:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-03-06-15.01.log.html | 15:41 |
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| Swami | thanks carl, bye | 15:42 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: bye and thanks for joining and contributing to discussions. | 15:42 |
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| lcheng | jomara: ping | 19:44 |
| jomara | lcheng: hey | 19:48 |
| lcheng | jomara: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70222/10/openstack_dashboard/dashboards/project/stacks/forms.py got a quick comment | 19:48 |
| jomara | oh sure | 19:49 |
| jomara | checking | 19:49 |
| lcheng | jomara: code looks good, just wanted to confirm if the label is right. | 19:49 |
| jomara | i dont think so, its in the middle of a sentence? | 19:49 |
| jomara | unless it should always be capitalized | 19:49 |
| lcheng | ah right, for line 164 should the label be "environment' ? | 19:51 |
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| jomara | lcheng: oh hell, yes it should | 20:11 |
| jomara | lcheng: good call | 20:11 |
| lcheng | jomara: other than that, everything looks good. | 20:11 |
| jomara | lcheng: thanks! ill fix that right now | 20:15 |
| lcheng | jomara: np, just wanted to get the bp earlier since the build jobs has been swamped lately. | 20:18 |
| lcheng | thanks! | 20:18 |
| jomara | understood, thanks for all of your help with my git/gerrit shenanigans too | 20:21 |
| jomara | yesterday was complicated :) | 20:21 |
| jomara | lcheng: however, i dont want to screw it up again - am i safe to just update this environment patch (which is now the 1st dependency), or do i need to update it, then cherry pick +2 on top of it, and git-review that? | 20:23 |
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| lcheng | jomara: I think just amending the current patch should be fine. I haven't really tried pushing patches with dependencies due to the complication. :-) | 20:29 |
| lcheng | I might be wrong. But I think just amending it should be okay. | 20:29 |
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| jomara | lcheng: i am a little gun-shy, i think that is how i got into th emess yesterday | 20:31 |
| jomara | lcheng: im asking in #opensstack-infra so i dont screw it up | 20:32 |
| lcheng | jomara: good idea! | 20:33 |
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| jomara | lcheng: fungi showed me the light, its not bad | 20:40 |
| fungi | could be worse! | 20:40 |
| jomara | much worse! | 20:40 |
| jomara | lcheng: updated, now its puppy time, brb | 20:41 |
| lcheng | jomara: sweet! thanks fungi | 20:45 |
| fungi | my pleasure | 20:46 |
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| jomara | lcheng: failed | 22:21 |
| jomara | lcheng: naturally i didnt check pep8 because i just hcanged a word, | 22:21 |
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| jomara | it made the line too long | 22:21 |
| * jomara cries | 22:21 | |
| lcheng | jomara: oh uh, I would have missed that too. :-( | 22:23 |
| jomara | im fixing it now | 22:23 |
| jomara | but yeah, stupid mistake | 22:23 |
| jomara | and obviously it brekas all the dependent patches :) | 22:24 |
| lcheng | good news is, it didn't take that long for the check job to finish. | 22:24 |
| jomara | true | 22:24 |
| jomara | im running ALL the tests this time just to be sure.... | 22:24 |
| jomara | ok, repushed | 22:26 |
| jomara | sorry about that | 22:26 |
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