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| carl_baldwin | Hi, all | 15:00 |
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| haleyb | hi carl | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | I just realized that I never sent a reminder to the ML about the meeting with the agenda. | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll add a recurring calendar item to remind me to do that consistently. | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | nextone92: ping | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | safchain: ping | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: ping | 15:01 |
| nextone92 | Hi Carl! | 15:01 |
| marios | hi all o/ | 15:01 |
| safchain | carl_baldwin, Hi | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | ajo: ping | 15:01 |
| nextone92 | Good morning everyone! | 15:02 |
| xuhanp | hi | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | YorikSar: ping | 15:02 |
| nextone92 | or afternoon or evening :) | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 3 15:02:37 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | The deadline to submit design session topics is April 20th. | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm going to be shifting my energies for the next week to getting a couple of blueprints written and posted so that I can submit mine. | 15:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic l3-high-availability | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "l3-high-availability (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:04 | |
| carl_baldwin | safchain: I saw that there is a conference session on this on the agenda. | 15:05 |
| safchain | carl_baldwin, yes | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | "High availability in Neutron - Getting the L3 agent right" - I look forward to it. | 15:06 |
| safchain | carl_baldwin, I probably lead it with Emilien | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | Any update this week? | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | I know Icehouse has shifted focus away from yours and many others' patches. | 15:07 |
| safchain | nothing this week :( | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks. | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | I don't see Swami on yet. So, I'll skip to dynamic routing. | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bgp-dynamic-routing (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:08 | |
| nextone92 | I've updated the document to reflect the discussion on GatewaySpec | 15:08 |
| nextone92 | the dynamic routing will be used at the edge of OpenStack instead of at each neutron router | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | nextone92: I read mostly through it but have not finished it yet. Had an Icehouse RC1 issue come up. :( | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | Have you received much feedback about that? | 15:09 |
| nextone92 | No problem, I think some of the schema sections may be too detailed and changed as part of the development | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm a fan but I'm curious about others' reactions. | 15:09 |
| nextone92 | I haven't received other feedback about the document... | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | I haven't heard anything at all about the use case descriptions that I posted, either. Maybe it will take until after Icehouse winds down before others want to look at new work. | 15:11 |
| nextone92 | Looking forward to hearing feedback about it | 15:11 |
| nextone92 | I had a quick question about the conference | 15:11 |
| nextone92 | it would be be great to have an opportunity to discuss this document with the Neutron team | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | I was just going to ask about the summit. | 15:12 |
| nextone92 | Could you recommend the best approach to add this document to discussion :) | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm not sure as I've not submitted anything myself. I think that adding some specifics around the use cases we're targeting will help focus the discussion. | 15:13 |
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| nextone92 | Okay, that's a good idea | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | It seems that being too vague about dynamic routing is a pitfall we should avoid. | 15:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think the place to start will be the use case document I created. I need to iterate on that one more time to be sure things are clearly spelled out. Then, maybe you can look at writing a design session proposal? | 15:16 |
| nextone92 | That sounds good Carl! | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will iterate on use case document for clarity and then ping nextone92 | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/DynamicRoutingUseCases | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will finish review of bhp-dynamic-routing blueprint updates | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | nextone92: anything else? | 15:18 |
| nextone92 | I think that's it, I will try to think of any other use cases and discuss with you | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | Great, thanks. | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic L3 Agent Performance with Wrapper Overhead | 15:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | ajo: YorikSar: any updates? | 15:20 |
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| YorikSar | Hi | 15:20 |
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| YorikSar | I've been ironing my first patch to Neutron and tried to push the second one with new rootwrap. | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | YorikSar: I have started a proper review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82787/. I'm sorry that my comments to date have been hasty and not well thought out. | 15:20 |
| YorikSar | I ran into sad problem: Python on Jenkins nodes is really old (2.7.3) and there's a bug preventing use of BaseManager, but I believe I have a workaround for that. | 15:21 |
| YorikSar | And I'm working on exception handling as it looks like xmlrpclib support is very basic in multiprocessing. | 15:22 |
| YorikSar | I've got a lot of useful comments from Rosella for Neutron part. | 15:23 |
| YorikSar | And I'll really appreciate any set of eyes looking at those change requests. | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | Sounds like you're making progress. I just found the second openstack/neutron review that you mentioned. | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84667/ | 15:24 |
| YorikSar | carl_baldwin: Oh... It should've just worked, but Python version struck. | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | I see that you also created a bp for it in both neutron and oslo. "rootwrap-daemon-mode" | 15:25 |
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| YorikSar | Yeah, forgot about blueprint :) | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | So, for those who are following the work: | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/rootwrap-daemon-mode,n,z | 15:26 |
| YorikSar | I think once my second patch will work I'll start pushing changes to other projects to get more feedback there. | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | Wait, this link is better: | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/rootwrap-daemon-mode,n,z | 15:26 |
| YorikSar | All links to all change requests are in blueprint (on etherpad) | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | Great. | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything else this week? | 15:27 |
| YorikSar | Nope. That's all I guess | 15:27 |
| YorikSar | I've dealt with almost all distractions, so I should continue faster now. | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, YorikSar | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: ping | 15:28 |
| Swami | carl: hi | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ovs-dvr | 15:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "neutron-ovs-dvr (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:28 | |
| carl_baldwin | Any updates? | 15:28 |
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| Swami | Hi we have posted the first WIP code for the DVr | 15:28 |
| Swami | This will address the extensions to the L3 plugin to support the DVR | 15:29 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84223/ | 15:29 |
| amuller | Hooray :) | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | Great work! | 15:29 |
| Swami | By next week we will have the L2 Agent code and L3 Agent code up | 15:29 |
| Swami | I have already received some review comments and I will address this by this week. | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | I hope feedback will be constructive. | 15:30 |
| Swami | We have completed the East-West and moving on to the North-South implementation. | 15:30 |
| Swami | Yes early feedback will be very helpfull for us to refine. | 15:30 |
| Swami | Thats all I have from the DVR team. | 15:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | Thanks for the update. Good progress. I think seeing the WIP gives the community a great deal of confidence in the progress being made. | 15:32 |
| Swami | carl: Yes that is right. | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:33 | |
| carl_baldwin | No updates on any other agenda items that I have. | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | That is all I have this week. | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks everyone for your work. Have a great week. | 15:35 |
| safchain | carl_baldwin, Thx you too | 15:36 |
| Swami | carl: Thanks | 15:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:37 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 3 15:37:03 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-04-03-15.02.html | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-04-03-15.02.txt | 15:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-04-03-15.02.log.html | 15:37 |
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| davidlenwell | Hello refstack! | 17:02 |
| zehicle_at_dell | davidlenwell, you want to start the meeting? | 17:02 |
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| zehicle_at_dell | so you can manage the topics | 17:03 |
| davidlenwell | #startmeeting Refstack | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 3 17:03:10 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is davidlenwell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Refstack)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 17:03 |
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| davidlenwell | roll call? | 17:03 |
| zehicle_at_dell | o/ | 17:05 |
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| boris-42 | hi all | 17:06 |
| davidlenwell | HI boris-42 | 17:06 |
| fcarpenter | Morning, all. | 17:06 |
| praveen-dell | Hello all | 17:06 |
| davidlenwell | So we have some late arrivals this morning .. this is the first week at this time.. | 17:06 |
| davidlenwell | we'll get started and hopedully they show up | 17:07 |
| zehicle_at_dell | +1 | 17:07 |
| davidlenwell | #topic Introductions and team identification | 17:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Introductions and team identification (Meeting topic: Refstack)" | 17:07 | |
| davidlenwell | wanted to introduce everyone to boris-42.. he's ptl of rally.. we're going to be keeping them in our loop for the time being .. the hope is that our projects can find a way to colaborate on some of our shared requirments | 17:08 |
| boris-42 | davidlenwell sure | 17:08 |
| davidlenwell | usually I'd have several more people to introduce to you right now .. but alas I think we'll loop back around to that when they show up . | 17:09 |
| * zehicle_at_dell welcome boris-42 | 17:09 | |
| boris-42 | zehicle_at_dell hi there | 17:09 |
| davidlenwell | So I'll just move right into the next topic | 17:09 |
| davidlenwell | #topic Rally > Refstack Collaboration | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rally > Refstack Collaboration (Meeting topic: Refstack)" | 17:09 | |
| davidlenwell | for those of your who haven't .. take some time later and review the readme on the rally repo . its well done! .. https://github.com/stackforge/rally | 17:10 |
| davidlenwell | you will notice right away their process has a "validation" step that uses tempest tests.. which should seem very familure | 17:10 |
| boris-42 | davidlenwell wiki one is better=) | 17:10 |
| davidlenwell | good to know | 17:10 |
| boris-42 | davidlenwell yep we are trying to bind all existing tools | 17:11 |
| boris-42 | davidlenwell to make live of devops/devs/qa simpler | 17:11 |
| davidlenwell | next wednesday boris-42 and I have a google hangout call for some show and tell of each of our projects.. after which we'll have some discussions on how we might work together | 17:11 |
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| zehicle_at_dell | cool! | 17:12 |
| zehicle_at_dell | will you send out a general invite? | 17:12 |
| boris-42 | zehicle_at_dell pls share email | 17:13 |
| boris-42 | zehicle_at_dell so I'll send | 17:13 |
| boris-42 | zehicle_at_dell davidlenwell yep I think that it's good for first step | 17:13 |
| davidlenwell | boris-42: maybe we can chat the day before and work out a loose agenda | 17:13 |
| boris-42 | zehicle_at_dell davidlenwell to understand what we are doing and how to colobarate | 17:13 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_at_dell: do you have rockyg's phone number .. maybe we can text her .. I wanted her to pay attention to the next part of this meeting | 17:14 |
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| zehicle_at_dell | davidlenwell, working on it | 17:14 |
| boris-42 | zehicle_at_dell davidlenwell so guys | 17:15 |
| boris-42 | btw here is a high level roadmap | 17:15 |
| boris-42 | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cAgyueiQ__tZ_MG5oOxe4q49tyPQcm-Y1469lmeERq8/edit?usp=sharing | 17:15 |
| boris-42 | for Juno | 17:15 |
| boris-42 | I am writing with community now | 17:15 |
| boris-42 | so only topics are ready | 17:15 |
| davidlenwell | it is interesting that you shared that now .. my next meeting topic is "Specs" | 17:15 |
| davidlenwell | #Specs | 17:16 |
| davidlenwell | #topic Specs | 17:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs (Meeting topic: Refstack)" | 17:16 | |
| davidlenwell | In an effort to reign things in. I am implementing something that a lot of the community(nova and others) are doing and use more defined specs when designing features and assigning work. They are doing it with a separate repos like nova-specs (https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs). We're going to keep things in a single repo for now. I don’t want to create extra places for things. | 17:16 |
| zehicle_at_dell | +1 | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | The idea is to allow you and others to submit features as detailed specs that go through normal code review process so that all future work is thought out on a higher level and can be approved by proper channels before being implemented. | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | I’ve committed a readme, template and the first proposed spec here; | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | folder with template and read me.. https://github.com/stackforge/refstack/tree/master/specs | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | #link https://github.com/stackforge/refstack/tree/master/specs | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | first spec for the gearman workflow.. #link https://github.com/stackforge/refstack/blob/master/specs/proposed/refstack-org-gearman-tester.rst | 17:18 |
| davidlenwell | I also thought it would be useful for members of the defcore committee to get credit in stackalytics for designing features and defining use cases. | 17:18 |
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| zehicle_at_dell | +1 | 17:19 |
| davidlenwell | any questions? I'm sure later when ibm people and rockyg show up they will have a million questions .. I'll be available in #refstack all day and am happy to talk about it. | 17:20 |
| boris-42 | davidlenwell zehicle_at_dell guys I am bit busy in moment (so see you later) | 17:20 |
| davidlenwell | boris-42: thanks for stopping by .. will catch you later | 17:20 |
| boris-42 | davidlenwell anyway I'll read meeting logs | 17:20 |
| zehicle_at_dell | boris-42, looking forward to future collaboration! | 17:20 |
| zehicle_at_dell | davidlenwell, I think you're on the right track. we need more of a quorum for finalize process | 17:21 |
| davidlenwell | exactly | 17:21 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I think we should move foward since this conforms to community best practice | 17:21 |
| davidlenwell | #agreed moving forward with specs | 17:21 |
| davidlenwell | #topic Refstack design session in Atlanta. | 17:22 |
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| praveen-dell | interesting topic | 17:22 |
| davidlenwell | if rocky were here .. she's share this #link http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/197 | 17:23 |
| davidlenwell | catherine at ibm has emailed around some additions for it .. we'll need rockyg to update that with the details asap.. I'll email around today with some more notes on the subbject .. | 17:23 |
| davidlenwell | since nobody is here to talk about it .. we'll move on.. | 17:24 |
| davidlenwell | #topic Pending Code Reviews: | 17:24 |
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| davidlenwell | zehicle_at_dell: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84337 I'm reviewing this now | 17:24 |
| * zehicle_at_dell added comment to Rocky's post | 17:24 | |
| davidlenwell | thank you rob | 17:25 |
| zehicle_at_dell | cool - I'm about to work on changes to execute_test that allow it to pick up the environement variables | 17:25 |
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| davidlenwell | okay .. zehicle_at_dell lets make sure your code gets reviewed by waiman and ted to make sure we arne't breaking anything | 17:25 |
| zehicle_at_dell | +1 | 17:26 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I'm planning for it to be it's own patch, not added to the existing TCUP one | 17:26 |
| davidlenwell | waiman: wanna take a minute and read the scroll back.. we'll loop around to open discussion in a few | 17:26 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_at_dell: good thinking .. | 17:26 |
| waiman | so far, davidlenwell: code is in a different folder, so won't break any existing code. | 17:26 |
| davidlenwell | waiman: maybe you missed the part where he said he was going to edit execute_test.py | 17:27 |
| waiman | i mean zehicle_at_dell: tcup code is in a separate folder. | 17:27 |
| waiman | oh.. i don't see that. | 17:27 |
| davidlenwell | its going to be in a different review | 17:27 |
| waiman | ok. will watch out for that... | 17:27 |
| davidlenwell | after this topic I'll go back to specs.. | 17:28 |
| davidlenwell | waiman: are other members of ibm joining us? | 17:28 |
| waiman | i don't see them online... Catherine has a doctor appointment | 17:28 |
| davidlenwell | ah .. okay .. we'll just catch her up later on | 17:29 |
| davidlenwell | So lets talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84320/ | 17:29 |
| davidlenwell | waiman and ted took the time yesterday to make us some flow charts detailing how things work here.. | 17:29 |
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| davidlenwell | I haven't had a chance to read them yet but I'll take a look | 17:29 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: read the scroll back .. and we'll loop around to specs and open discussion shorttly | 17:30 |
| waiman | #link https://www.lucidchart.com/documents/view/efd2ff41-8269-45e1-8950-30ce09bd2061 | 17:30 |
| rockyg | Don't have the scroll back because was disconnected fro net. | 17:30 |
| waiman | #link https://www.lucidchart.com/documents/view/ed40cb3e-18a6-4121-a990-6d87a7310378 | 17:30 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: sorry .. (not everyone has persistant irc.. I must remember this) | 17:30 |
| waiman | i don't have the scroll back neither. | 17:30 |
| davidlenwell | okay.. | 17:30 |
| davidlenwell | lets finish this topic and I'll just loop around | 17:31 |
| rockyg | cool | 17:31 |
| davidlenwell | waiman: I'm going to reivew your drawings and will leave some feed back in your code review .. | 17:31 |
| waiman | good. | 17:31 |
| waiman | has anyone had a chance to run it? | 17:32 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg waiman.. I'll let you read the meeting log to catch the introduction and rally part of the discussion .. | 17:32 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I tied but ran into python dependencies | 17:32 |
| davidlenwell | we'll now go back to Specs.. | 17:32 |
| davidlenwell | #topic Specs .. again | 17:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs .. again (Meeting topic: Refstack)" | 17:32 | |
| davidlenwell | In an effort to reign things in. I am implementing something that a lot of the community(nova and others) are doing and use more defined specs when designing features and assigning work. They are doing it with a separate repos like nova-specs (https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs). We're going to keep things in a single repo for now. I don’t want to create extra places for things. | 17:32 |
| davidlenwell | The idea is to allow you and others to submit features as detailed specs that go through normal code review process so that all future work is thought out on a higher level and can be approved by proper channels before being implemented. | 17:32 |
| davidlenwell | I’ve committed a readme, template and the first proposed spec here; | 17:33 |
| davidlenwell | folder with template and read me.. https://github.com/stackforge/refstack/tree/master/specs | 17:33 |
| davidlenwell | first spec for the gearman workflow.. https://github.com/stackforge/refstack/blob/master/specs/proposed/refstack-org-gearman-tester.rst | 17:33 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: this should lead to good raw material for documentation | 17:34 |
| davidlenwell | #topic specs q and a | 17:34 |
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| zehicle_at_dell | davidlenwell, do you expect to have more directories after proposed? like "accepted" and "completed" ? | 17:34 |
| davidlenwell | yes . | 17:34 |
| davidlenwell | when something is final and we've agreed on it .. it will move to accepted | 17:35 |
| waiman | so, we should have the specs approved, before coding (or at least checking in, right?) | 17:35 |
| davidlenwell | when its dinished comleted | 17:35 |
| davidlenwell | waiman: idealy we'd have specs approved before writing any code .. | 17:35 |
| waiman | +1 | 17:35 |
| davidlenwell | it will save us a lot of wasted efforts and re-writes if the group decideds to go another way | 17:35 |
| zehicle_at_dell | +1 | 17:35 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I'm assuming we'd use this time to approve/discuss specs? | 17:36 |
| davidlenwell | yes | 17:36 |
| davidlenwell | it will be a regular meeting topic | 17:36 |
| rockyg | And, we can enforce updating the specs before moving to completed. | 17:36 |
| zehicle_at_dell | +1 | 17:36 |
| davidlenwell | as well as using the code review process to refine the specs | 17:36 |
| davidlenwell | waiman: I also can't see the comments you tried to make on my proposed spec .. | 17:37 |
| davidlenwell | so we can discuss that offline if you like | 17:37 |
| waiman | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84957/ | 17:37 |
| waiman | i added 4 inline comment in patch set 2 | 17:37 |
| davidlenwell | oh I see it .. thanks | 17:37 |
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| davidlenwell | good call on the using the test status message | 17:38 |
| davidlenwell | I'll add that to the spec | 17:38 |
| davidlenwell | are there any other questions about specs ? | 17:38 |
| waiman | are you going to use the execute_test.py on the gearman worker? | 17:39 |
| davidlenwell | yes | 17:39 |
| zehicle_at_dell | are you going to have a list of items that need specs? | 17:39 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_at_dell: right now that is all of our open blue prints | 17:39 |
| davidlenwell | and I will likely create blueprints and empty specs and assign them to people to flush out | 17:39 |
| zehicle_at_dell | so, I'm infering, we need one for TCUP | 17:39 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_at_dell: absolutely | 17:40 |
| zehicle_at_dell | +1 | 17:40 |
| rockyg | +10 | 17:40 |
| davidlenwell | anyone wanna take the first pass at the tcup spec ? | 17:40 |
| davidlenwell | the template is pretty easy to follow | 17:40 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I'm willing to do it | 17:40 |
| davidlenwell | okay.. excelent | 17:40 |
| rockyg | Thanks! | 17:40 |
| zehicle_at_dell | we should possibily agree that there are mutiple TCUPs right now | 17:41 |
| davidlenwell | #agreed zehicle_at_dell will take the first pass at the tcup spec | 17:41 |
| zehicle_at_dell | and break it into the different cases | 17:41 |
| rockyg | Agreed. | 17:41 |
| davidlenwell | rob .. I believe my drawing gave us a good seperation between the use cases | 17:41 |
| zehicle_at_dell | yes | 17:41 |
| davidlenwell | feel free to use it in your spec | 17:41 |
| zehicle_at_dell | thanks | 17:41 |
| davidlenwell | try to cover one use case per spec | 17:41 |
| waiman | where is the drawing? | 17:41 |
| davidlenwell | #link https://www.dropbox.com/s/sfx7e8ehlogdpk1/refstack%20high%20level%20flow%20chart.png | 17:42 |
| davidlenwell | waiman: its the one we were reviewing at the f2f | 17:42 |
| zehicle_at_dell | is there a prefered way to create these drawings? and, where do you want to keep their source/image output | 17:42 |
| davidlenwell | we're using lucid chart | 17:42 |
| waiman | good...we were looking for that everywhere in the wiki... :) | 17:43 |
| davidlenwell | the free account is sufficient | 17:43 |
| davidlenwell | and for my spec I uploaded the image to the wiki | 17:43 |
| davidlenwell | and linked it in the rst | 17:43 |
| rockyg | Request: Can we put all the docs in one (or two) location? DropBox is also a non-starter in corporate network here and I'm not sure how they'd take to having the client on this machine. | 17:43 |
| davidlenwell | you can view the source of my rst to see that in action | 17:43 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: we'll use the openstack wiki | 17:43 |
| davidlenwell | thats just were I had mine for now | 17:43 |
| rockyg | I'll link to the stuff in the wiki. I'll get that done today. | 17:44 |
| davidlenwell | great | 17:44 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. next topic .. | 17:44 |
| davidlenwell | #topic Refstack design session in Atlanta. | 17:44 |
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| davidlenwell | again | 17:44 |
| rockyg | Yes! | 17:44 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: you didn't see it .. but I linked your session thing | 17:44 |
| davidlenwell | rob left a comment on it .. | 17:44 |
| davidlenwell | if we can make that a priority to get populated with real info asap.. like today maybe | 17:45 |
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| davidlenwell | I would be a very happy camper | 17:45 |
| rockyg | Can do. Any comments on catherineD's verbage? | 17:45 |
| davidlenwell | I will reply to that email with my comments | 17:45 |
| davidlenwell | later today | 17:45 |
| rockyg | Great. I'll get that out today, too. | 17:46 |
| davidlenwell | awesome! | 17:46 |
| davidlenwell | #agreed rockyg will update the session details here .http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/197 | 17:46 |
| rockyg | It'll be nice not to be struggling with Sphinx for a bit ;-) | 17:46 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: I think this spec thing is a good thing for you to focus your energy on | 17:46 |
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| rockyg | Agreed. | 17:47 |
| davidlenwell | #agreed david will email the group later with comments on catherines verbage for the design session | 17:47 |
| davidlenwell | #topic Open Discussion | 17:47 |
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| rockyg | The cool thing is that we can use the spec docs as wiki sections. | 17:47 |
| davidlenwell | absolutely | 17:48 |
| davidlenwell | its the same format | 17:48 |
| rockyg | Just an FYI. I've been struggling with docs mostly because I've been on the corporate net, so no access to Architecture drawing, and realizing that the details of a lot of this from a user perspective are still extremely fluid. | 17:49 |
| waiman | a question: is the project name "Refstack" or "RefStack" ? | 17:49 |
| davidlenwell | Refstack | 17:49 |
| zehicle_at_dell | good to know! I've been using S | 17:49 |
| rockyg | So, off network today until I've collected all the stuff needed into the wiki. davidlenwell: Me, too. | 17:50 |
| davidlenwell | http://refstack.org/ clearly isn't capitolized ;) | 17:50 |
| davidlenwell | just look at the logo | 17:51 |
| davidlenwell | thats another topic of discussion .. I'm goign to take a design pass before the summit.. | 17:51 |
| rockyg | Yeah, but look at the page title. | 17:51 |
| davidlenwell | ha ha .. I see .. | 17:51 |
| davidlenwell | we are anything but consistant here with refstack | 17:51 |
| davidlenwell | see I just did it again | 17:52 |
| davidlenwell | no caps | 17:52 |
| waiman | and in #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/RefStack | 17:52 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I've been doing it RefStack - so that's me | 17:52 |
| rockyg | That's my bad. I'll fix it today. | 17:52 |
| zehicle_at_dell | you may mess up the deep linking | 17:52 |
| waiman | ok. so "Refstack" is official. | 17:52 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I think the wiki is case sensitive | 17:52 |
| davidlenwell | it is | 17:52 |
| davidlenwell | you can leave it .. | 17:53 |
| davidlenwell | I don't actually care if its capitolized at this point | 17:53 |
| zehicle_at_dell | #agree Refstack is official | 17:53 |
| davidlenwell | I'd rather focus on the work at hand | 17:53 |
| zehicle_at_dell | can we agree to not try and fix retroactively? | 17:53 |
| rockyg | Wiki is. I might have to leave the link and link another page with the correct capitalization | 17:53 |
| zehicle_at_dell | opportunistic fixes please | 17:53 |
| rockyg | zehicle_at_dell: Yup. | 17:54 |
| davidlenwell | so back to our layout and ui for a moment | 17:54 |
| waiman | +1 | 17:54 |
| zehicle_at_dell | davidlenwell, one of my kids is playing with it | 17:54 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I can send you a draft tonight | 17:54 |
| waiman | we need a better way to display clouds and tests... | 17:54 |
| davidlenwell | So I'll publish a spec with the ux requirment including some wireframes of layout changes and a flow chart showing how things will link together | 17:54 |
| zehicle_at_dell | +1 (he's playing w/ CSS not flow) | 17:55 |
| davidlenwell | waiman: we had talked in person that time about integrating the cloud / test lists in a colapsable menu | 17:55 |
| waiman | right. | 17:55 |
| rockyg | Great. Can we ping the UX team to take a look (Jaromir and someone else?) | 17:55 |
| davidlenwell | I think thats a good call .. | 17:55 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I was talking w/ Boris R (board member) about the Driver Test work. | 17:55 |
| waiman | and now we will have tests doesn't belong to any cloud, uploaded from TCUP. | 17:55 |
| zehicle_at_dell | that should be a topic for next week | 17:55 |
| rockyg | Oh, also. Outside of functionality, does Refstack want to also run what security tests we have for the core? | 17:56 |
| davidlenwell | waiman: do you mean test results that are anonymous ? | 17:56 |
| waiman | davidlenwell: yes | 17:56 |
| davidlenwell | waiman: for now we are not making those results public | 17:57 |
| waiman | ok | 17:57 |
| davidlenwell | they are for data collection for defcore only | 17:57 |
| davidlenwell | we'll likely need to build some reporting tools into the sites admin | 17:57 |
| waiman | +1 | 17:57 |
| davidlenwell | I'll put that on the agenda for next week | 17:57 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. so I think we've covered all of it .. | 17:57 |
| rockyg | Security testing -- next week? | 17:58 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg waiman please read the meeting log when we're done .. catch anything we missed | 17:58 |
| davidlenwell | yes rockyg | 17:58 |
| rockyg | will do. | 17:58 |
| catherineD | me too miss the new irc time | 17:58 |
| davidlenwell | its okay .. | 17:58 |
| catherineD | do we need to have a call to go over the lfow charts | 17:59 |
| davidlenwell | I am going to commute into the office now.. then we have a scrum meeting and lunch.. but I'll be in irc all day and would love to talk about specs and flow charts .. | 17:59 |
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| rockyg | +1 | 17:59 |
| zehicle_at_dell | OpenStack board meeting today | 17:59 |
| davidlenwell | catherineD: get caught up on what a spec is .. and we'll discuss your flow charts this afternoon | 17:59 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I'll be online but trying to focus there | 17:59 |
| catherineD | ok | 17:59 |
| davidlenwell | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 3 17:59:48 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-04-03-17.03.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-04-03-17.03.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-04-03-17.03.log.html | 17:59 |
| zehicle_at_dell | looking forward to final review comments from davidlenwell | 17:59 |
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