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| carl_baldwin | Hi Neutron L3 team | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 8 15:00:52 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| carl_baldwin | Summit is next week. We will not hold this meeting on the 15th. It will continue on the 22nd. | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | I have updated the team meeting page with summit information partaining to design sessions from this team. There are a number of them. | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | If you have a session, please create an etherpad and post it. | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Juno/Etherpads#Neutron | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | Also, there will be a Neutron mid-cycle meeting in July. There is an etherpad but I’m unable to reach it. | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-juno-mid-cycle-meeting | 15:03 |
| Swami | hi | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: hi | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | Okay, etherpad came up for me now. | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | Looks like it is still between the weeks of the 7th and 14th. | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | Location is between Minneapolis and San Jose. | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | I expect decisions will be made soon. | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Bugs | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:06 | |
| carl_baldwin | I’ll start discussing bugs in the team meeting. Our bugs will be tagged with l3-ipam-dhcp. | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=l3-ipam-dhcp | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | Looks like there are a few High priority but all have owners. I’ll go through the Undecided and try to get them triaged the remainder of this week. | 15:08 |
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| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin to triage undecided bugs | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic l3-svcs-vendor-* | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "l3-svcs-vendor-* (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:09 | |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: hi | 15:09 |
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| carl_baldwin | I added information about your summit session on the page for a little extra visibility. | 15:09 |
| pcm_ | hi | 15:09 |
| pcm_ | thanks! | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything to report? | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | If you’re like me, you’re just busy preparing for the discussion. | 15:10 |
| pcm_ | no. just need to know more about Mark McClain's TaskFlow and how it impacts. | 15:10 |
| * pcm_ very busy | 15:10 | |
| carl_baldwin | Ah, right. That will be good to explore before the discussion a bit. | 15:11 |
| pcm_ | Please look at the etherpad and and anything... | 15:11 |
| pcm_ | and add | 15:11 |
| carl_baldwin | Last I knew, there was no blueprint available for Mark’s. Has be posted something? | 15:11 |
| pcm_ | Didn't check today, | 15:11 |
| pcm_ | but nothing yesterday. | 15:12 |
| Swami | what is this task flow? | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | I’m checking to see if he has an etherpad. | 15:12 |
| pcm_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TaskFlow | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: I see your etherpad and I will have a look. | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | It is linked from our subpage for others to find it too. | 15:13 |
| pcm_ | Swami: Allows you to create tasks for actions, flows (collection of tasks), and engine (how to apply the flow) | 15:13 |
| pcm_ | carl_baldwin: nice | 15:13 |
| pcm_ | Question is whether we'll consider using TaskFlow at a low and/or high level. | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | I will also read through this task flow page. I think this will touch everyone’s work in some way. | 15:14 |
| pcm_ | IOW: to do the flow for one command (validation, persistence, appy), or for one action (create VPN policy, create PSK, and create conneciton) | 15:14 |
| pcm_ | carl_baldwin: yes. need to understand more, have some examples, and discuss how to apply. | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: That is a good question. We should keep that in mind as we review the two subjects. | 15:15 |
| pcm_ | I'm not sure (yet) how TaskFlow can be used with vendors (conditional tasks) | 15:15 |
| pcm_ | where we want to do a vendor validation, based on some flavor. | 15:16 |
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| pcm_ | anyhow, add thoughts/comments/questions.etc on the Etherpad. Will really help. | 15:17 |
| pcm_ | Could use some eyes on the client capabilities BP, as I'm not sure how feasible that is. | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | We’ll use the next week to review and think about it. We can use etherpad and ML to discuss over the next week before the discussion. | 15:17 |
| pcm_ | roger that | 15:17 |
| pcm_ | that's if for me | 15:18 |
| pcm_ | it | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | What is the link for the BP? | 15:18 |
| pcm_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89366/1/specs/juno/l3-svcs-vendor-client-cap.rst | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, I see you have three BPs up now. I had only seen the validation one. | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ll be sure the subteam links to them all. | 15:19 |
| pcm_ | Yeah, 3 BP and 3 specs, all interrelatted. | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: Thanks for your update. You’ve done a lot of work to get that all posted. | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will update subteam page to show all BP and specs. | 15:20 |
| pcm_ | welcome | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic l3-high-availability | 15:20 |
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| carl_baldwin | I don’t see safchain | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | The activity I’ve seen on this is with dvr so we can discuss later. | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | nextone92: hi | 15:22 |
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| nextone92 | Hi! | 15:22 |
| nextone92 | Thank you everyone for providing comments | 15:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | I see you’ve posted a new revision of the bp. | 15:23 |
| nextone92 | I have responded to code review feedback and took down some action items for changes I haven't yet made | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | Great. | 15:23 |
| nextone92 | There was a recommendation from Pedro Marques to consider merging this with VPN blueprint | 15:24 |
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| carl_baldwin | I didn’t see that. | 15:24 |
| nextone92 | It's the first comment BGP L3VPN | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | To me, the two topics are distinct. | 15:25 |
| nextone92 | I believe we have discussed this early in L3 subteam meetings | 15:25 |
| nextone92 | I don't have a strong opposition for more BGP use cases, but think it would be prudent to start slow | 15:25 |
| nextone92 | start *small | 15:25 |
| nextone92 | and then expand to more use cases | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | Yes. I don’t think BGP L3VPN will be the first use case. | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | I guess I had seen his comments on L3VPN. | 15:26 |
| nextone92 | Okay - the next action item are improvement comments from Mark Mcclain - I have responded on the code review and sent him an email from launchpad | 15:27 |
| nextone92 | I haven't heard back and will send him another emaik | 15:27 |
| nextone92 | The last action item is quagga HA question asked by you | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | I recall some discussion in Hong Kong about BGP and L3 VPN. I think there are some who get stuck on L3VPN whenever BGP comes up. | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | We may have to be prepared for that in the discussion. | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | nextone92: You and I are sharing the session on Friday at 4pm. We should probably have a discussion about how we’re going to use that time. | 15:29 |
| nextone92 | Okay, and I will try to see if I can meet Pedro in person and ask more questions | 15:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | That would be great. | 15:29 |
| nextone92 | Yes, my schedule is very open so any time that works for you would work for me. I will private message you. | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | Would you like to talk before Atlanta or in Atlanta? | 15:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | Okay, we’ll discuss privately. | 15:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | Anything else? | 15:30 |
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| nextone92 | I think we can talk about Quagga HA quicklt | 15:31 |
| nextone92 | One approach would be not to HA quagga, but to have multiple servers running quagga with their own uplinks | 15:31 |
| nextone92 | so when one quagga dies, there is a duplicate uplink with corresponding routes | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | nextone92: I totally agree. That is how I envisioned it. | 15:31 |
| nextone92 | Thank you for the clarification | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | BGP kindof has that HA built in to the protocol. | 15:32 |
| nextone92 | Yes, and that seems the easiest approach | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | Just run multiple BGP speakers to the same set of upstream routers. | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | nextone92: Agreed | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything else? | 15:33 |
| nextone92 | The final question that I had is whether there is a routing daemon preference | 15:33 |
| nextone92 | Mark Mcclain has recommended to look into Bird vs Quagga | 15:33 |
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| carl_baldwin | Ah, my only reason for a preference is because I’ve only had experience with Quagga. I’m open to suggestions. | 15:33 |
| nextone92 | Same here, if there are no other recommendations I will follow up with Mark | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | The solution should be pluggable but we’ll need to discuss the options for a reference implementation. | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | nextone92: great. | 15:34 |
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| carl_baldwin | #action nextone92 will follow up with markmcclain about comments and routing daemon. | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic rootwrap-daemon-mode | 15:34 |
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| carl_baldwin | YorikSar: ajo: hi | 15:35 |
| YorikSar | o/ | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | I posted information about the summit session. | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | YorikSar: you will not be at summit, right? | 15:35 |
| YorikSar | carl_baldwin: Right. Roman Popolyaka agreed to represent me there | 15:36 |
| YorikSar | *Podolyaka | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | Great. I also plan to attend. I’ll introduce myself. It will be good to have someone there who is up to date on your work. | 15:36 |
| YorikSar | carl_baldwin: I also haven't came around to post the blueprint yet. I've been wrapped up in Nova scheduler specs... | 15:37 |
| YorikSar | I hope to put together one soon. | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | Okay. Will you have one before the design session? | 15:37 |
| YorikSar | I've also finally made my patch work with Neutron. | 15:37 |
| YorikSar | carl_baldwin: Sure. | 15:38 |
| carl_baldwin | YorikSar: Great. I’d like to test it out. | 15:38 |
| carl_baldwin | I’m sure others will too. | 15:38 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ll grab the patches and give it a go. | 15:39 |
| YorikSar | And I've found weird behavior in DHCP agent. It creates an instance of driver for every action needed to be done which makes it hard to link with rootwrap daemon's client - one daemon instance ends up running for each request. | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | #action YorikSar will post blueprint before summit design talk. | 15:39 |
| YorikSar | I'll file a bug on this topic and put together a fix | 15:39 |
| YorikSar | Oh, my patch is there: | 15:40 |
| YorikSar | #link https://review.openstack.org/84667 | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks for the link. | 15:40 |
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| YorikSar | You can see example of weird behavior here: (traceback for every creation of new Client is there) | 15:41 |
| YorikSar | #link http://logs.openstack.org/67/84667/20/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron/3a7768e/logs/screen-q-dhcp.txt.gz?level=INFO | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | Ah, yeah. Send me the bug number when you’ve filed it. | 15:42 |
| YorikSar | carl_baldwin: Ok. | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | One last thing. Thierry will drive this as part of the Oslo track. As long as they keep sufficient traction in it then we won’t have this on this subteam agenda any more. | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ll watch from the background and try to fan the flames if it starts to die out. | 15:43 |
| YorikSar | Huh... Ok. I guess I'll attend their meetings then | 15:43 |
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| carl_baldwin | I guess we’ll see how the transition goes at the summit discussion. | 15:44 |
| YorikSar | carl_baldwin: It won't. Current overhead of rootwrap actually troubles me :) | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | YorikSar: Me too. :) | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything else? | 15:44 |
| YorikSar | carl_baldwin: Sure. | 15:44 |
| YorikSar | carl_baldwin: I'll also try to put together a patch for Nova next week. | 15:44 |
| YorikSar | carl_baldwin: Nope. That's it. | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | YorikSar: Great work. I’m excited to see this improve rootwrap. | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ovs-dvr | 15:45 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: hi | 15:45 |
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| Swami | hi | 15:46 |
| Swami | Yes DVR work is progressing in fast pace. | 15:46 |
| Swami | We are currently working on the SNAT for the North-South | 15:46 |
| Swami | Hopefully we will complete this work with a couple of weeks. | 15:47 |
| Swami | I will also update the Wiki with the Howto on configuring and running the DVR | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | How close are we to having something the community can test? | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | Ah, great timing for that comment. Exactly what I was after. :) | 15:48 |
| Swami | Some parts of the code was not yet merged with the Master, so will be merging it in the next week or so and should be able to run with the Wiki's help | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | That would be a great thing to have prepared before your summit session. | 15:49 |
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| carl_baldwin | Let’s see. Wednesday at 5:20pm. | 15:49 |
| Swami | Yes our plan was to have all the code as WIP before the summit and then start working on pushing the non-WIP code to upstream by the Juno milestone1 | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | If you have workable code published I might just skip whatever party is that night and go try it out. ;) | 15:50 |
| Swami | That's all I had from my end. | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: Thanks for your report. | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: It is great to see it coming together. | 15:51 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic pluggable-ext-net | 15:51 |
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| Swami | carl: It is a great team effort | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | #link http://junodesignsummit.sched.org/event/562393582543b1a0da0db766a5c4a7b3#.U2fC2K1dVcM | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-neutron-pluggable-external-network | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will start fleshing out the etherpad by the end of the week. | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | This is the sharing I’m sharing with nextone92 | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | That’s all I have. | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic *-dns-resolution | 15:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "*-dns-resolution (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:53 | |
| carl_baldwin | My design topic got bumped at the last minute before the schedule came out. | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | However, there is a lot of interest in having a discussion. Looks like we’ll try to get together late afternoon on Monday. | 15:54 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-dns-neutron-nova-designate | 15:54 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:55 | |
| carl_baldwin | We got through it all. | 15:56 |
| Swami | I think you covered a lot of items today | 15:57 |
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| Swami | I don't have any open items at this time. | 15:57 |
| pcm_ | See you all at the summit! | 15:58 |
| carl_baldwin | I look forward to meeting most of you at the summit. We have some good discussions coming up. | 15:58 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks for all your work. Things are progressing well. | 15:58 |
| Swami | See you , bye | 15:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 8 15:59:07 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-05-08-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-05-08-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-05-08-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
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| davidlenwell | #startmeeting refstack | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 8 17:01:54 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is davidlenwell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 17:01 |
| zehicle_ | o/ | 17:02 |
| davidlenwell | roll call | 17:02 |
| catherineD | Here | 17:02 |
| davidlenwell | agenda: simplified tester, TCUP, api->api authentication, communication channels, refstack meetups at summit. summit sessions | 17:03 |
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| zehicle_ | cool | 17:03 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_: can you think of anything else ? | 17:03 |
| rockyg | o/ | 17:03 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: you missed this : agenda: simplified tester, TCUP, api->api authentication, communication channels, refstack meetups at summit. summit sessions | 17:03 |
| zehicle_ | capabilities page? | 17:03 |
| rockyg | tnx | 17:04 |
| davidlenwell | okay we'll just cover that one first. | 17:04 |
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| davidlenwell | #topic capabilities page | 17:04 |
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| davidlenwell | you have the floor zehicle_ | 17:05 |
| zehicle_ | thanks | 17:05 |
| zehicle_ | the DefCore committee has put out a draft of the capabilities | 17:05 |
| zehicle_ | and I wanted to be able to put it out as a simple render. | 17:05 |
| davidlenwell | I did get your email .. but it seems like troy and I were both unsure who you meant should put that up some place | 17:05 |
| zehicle_ | we have a JSON format that looks OK | 17:05 |
| zehicle_ | sorry about that -I was thinking restack.org | 17:06 |
| zehicle_ | should have been specific | 17:06 |
| davidlenwell | oh.. yeah .. no biggy .. | 17:06 |
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| zehicle_ | if the format of the json is OK then I'll do a patch w/ the HTML page | 17:06 |
| davidlenwell | why don't you commit to the repo with those in the static files folder and link to it on the home page .. I'll pretty up the html if you need me to | 17:06 |
| zehicle_ | and also update the capabilities counts so they are not all 0 | 17:06 |
| zehicle_ | yes please > pretty++ | 17:06 |
| davidlenwell | okay go ahead and do that today .. | 17:06 |
| rockyg | Yeah. the first pass is good enough to approve and get in. | 17:06 |
| zehicle_ | thanks | 17:07 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_: please make sure you don't have dependanies on your commit | 17:07 |
| zehicle_ | can do once I get out from behind the firewall | 17:07 |
| davidlenwell | which reminds me of another agenda item we'll jump to next | 17:07 |
| rockyg | ++ | 17:07 |
| zehicle_ | will do, may ping you to make sure | 17:07 |
| zehicle_ | offline | 17:07 |
| davidlenwell | #topic code reviews | 17:07 |
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| davidlenwell | specifically | 17:08 |
| davidlenwell | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91640/ | 17:08 |
| davidlenwell | needs to be rebased | 17:08 |
| davidlenwell | I'd like to be able to merge it | 17:08 |
| * zehicle_ done | 17:08 | |
| davidlenwell | thank you | 17:09 |
| davidlenwell | there is also a new draft of the v1 api specs I'd like to merge if everyone can review it today. | 17:09 |
| davidlenwell | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90044/ | 17:09 |
| * zehicle_ can do | 17:09 | |
| rockyg | will do | 17:10 |
| davidlenwell | Thank you | 17:10 |
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| davidlenwell | okay this leads nicely into the next topic | 17:10 |
| davidlenwell | #topic simplified tester | 17:10 |
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| davidlenwell | you may have noticed if you were watching that we merged this last night .. | 17:10 |
| davidlenwell | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92552/ | 17:10 |
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| davidlenwell | its actually not finished yet .. I have another patch that will hit it probably tomorrow afternoon that will complete the circle .. but there is enough of the tool finished to prep the env .. and start tests on it .. should be very useful for tcup | 17:11 |
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| rockyg | missed that. saw stuff fly by related. | 17:12 |
| davidlenwell | I have a diagram and some slides for it in the deep dive session | 17:12 |
| rockyg | we gonna sync f2f at summit on tha beforehand? | 17:13 |
| zehicle_ | the sooner the better - we're down to the wire | 17:13 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: we'll get to that in a minute | 17:13 |
| davidlenwell | its an agenda item | 17:13 |
| rockyg | ping us all when code is ready for us to try. | 17:14 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_: you should be able to test with it now | 17:14 |
| zehicle_ | ok, I'll be on #refstack and look for help | 17:14 |
| davidlenwell | the tests won't pass because the cloud prep piece is just a stub | 17:14 |
| rockyg | Sounds like we can try now. | 17:14 |
| zehicle_ | will make my day | 17:14 |
| davidlenwell | but it preps and launches tests.. | 17:14 |
| davidlenwell | then sends them home | 17:14 |
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| davidlenwell | and reports status to the api when it fails .. | 17:14 |
| zehicle_ | I just need to be able to launch - we can iterate in parallel after that | 17:15 |
| davidlenwell | and interactively asks you for any values it needs in env that its missing | 17:15 |
| davidlenwell | so its actually a useful tester more in line with our original specs | 17:15 |
| praveen_dell | let me know if you want me to test any code | 17:15 |
| davidlenwell | praveen_dell: you can test it now | 17:15 |
| zehicle_ | we may need to document the steps | 17:16 |
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| praveen_dell | sure,will do it | 17:16 |
| rockyg | Everyone who has cloud access should try against their cloud. | 17:16 |
| zehicle_ | +1 | 17:16 |
| davidlenwell | some q/a on the parts that are done would be very useful for me to refine it into a finished state | 17:16 |
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| davidlenwell | note* it only works in havana right now | 17:16 |
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| rockyg | And file bugs once they get it working for missing parts, etc. | 17:16 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: ++ | 17:17 |
| rockyg | Can we run afainst others since the test don't run anyway? | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | it does run tests | 17:17 |
| rockyg | kewl. | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | they'll just fail because the config isn't complete | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | I also put in a stub for scrubing results before sending them home | 17:17 |
| catherineD | rockyg: File bug against Tempest Havana | 17:17 |
| catherineD | ? | 17:18 |
| davidlenwell | file bugs on the refstack lp page for the code I just put up | 17:18 |
| davidlenwell | the tester is a central part of refstack | 17:18 |
| davidlenwell | and filed bugs will help me make it stronger | 17:18 |
| rockyg | what david said. | 17:18 |
| davidlenwell | we're at a stage were we'll have to do some q/a passes | 17:19 |
| davidlenwell | I can call it "finished" but it really isn't until we've worked out the kinks .. and that means lots of different people need to use it. | 17:19 |
| davidlenwell | and give feed back | 17:19 |
| catherineD | OK I will get off line with you on how to file bug against Refstack | 17:20 |
| davidlenwell | I know of some kinks off hand .. thats why I'm saying its still a wip | 17:20 |
| davidlenwell | catherineD: just go to launchpad.com/refstack and click file bug | 17:20 |
| catherineD | ok | 17:20 |
| rockyg | Question: I've never seen a way to idenitfy the version in the various openstack projects. Is ther? | 17:20 |
| davidlenwell | im sure we can figure that out later | 17:21 |
| davidlenwell | offline that one | 17:21 |
| davidlenwell | we should move into our next topic .. TCUP | 17:21 |
| zehicle_ | +1 | 17:21 |
| davidlenwell | #topic TCUP | 17:22 |
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| davidlenwell | So with the tester in its current state .. we should be able to get the tcup code in better working order. | 17:22 |
| zehicle_ | basicaslly, nothing since last meeting. I've been blocked on the launcher. | 17:22 |
| zehicle_ | I think we should be able to jump ahead now | 17:22 |
| zehicle_ | are all the pending patches looking good to go? it will help w/ debug and instructions | 17:23 |
| davidlenwell | excelent | 17:23 |
| rockyg | for catherineD, last topic: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/refstack | 17:23 |
| zehicle_ | I can also make sure to hand off to praveen_dell | 17:23 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_: I'll look more closely offline and ping you if I need you to take any action | 17:23 |
| zehicle_ | so he can get an early jump on it | 17:23 |
| zehicle_ | thanks - I'm available this afternoon for TCUP | 17:23 |
| catherineD | Thx Rocku | 17:23 |
| davidlenwell | I will be hyper viligent with code reviews leading up into the summit | 17:24 |
| zehicle_ | praveen_dell, you have time tomorrow AM to try out the latest? | 17:24 |
| praveen_dell | yeah | 17:24 |
| praveen_dell | i will try tomorrow | 17:24 |
| praveen_dell | latest tcup? right? | 17:24 |
| zehicle_ | davidlenwell, we should be in good shape. | 17:24 |
| davidlenwell | good .. | 17:24 |
| davidlenwell | we should move on | 17:25 |
| davidlenwell | #topic api->api authentication | 17:25 |
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| zehicle_ | yes - I may have to give you directions because the patch may not be accepted tomorrow | 17:25 |
| praveen_dell | <zehicle_> ok please ping me tomorrow or send me an email a | 17:25 |
| zehicle_ | praveen_dell, will do! | 17:25 |
| praveen_dell | <zehicle_> thanks | 17:25 |
| davidlenwell | catherineD: rockyg and zehicle_ and I were having a discussion on irc the other day about how to handle auth for the api ->api sync feature | 17:26 |
| davidlenwell | and I think that as an openstack project we should eat our own dogfood and use keystone for this | 17:26 |
| davidlenwell | it ends up openstack already built a tool for just this sort of thing and I think we should use it.. | 17:27 |
| rockyg | The big question for me is whether vendors consider it secure enough to accept it. | 17:27 |
| davidlenwell | So asap I will put a running keystone server on refstack.org | 17:27 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: as I said the other day .. I don't care what they think | 17:27 |
| davidlenwell | if they are openstack vendors they can trust keystone | 17:27 |
| rockyg | We will if they won't send test results. | 17:27 |
| davidlenwell | if they don't trust keystone they should help fix whatever they think is broken in it | 17:28 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: im not aware of any vendors who wouldn't trust it. | 17:28 |
| davidlenwell | please inform me thusly if I am wrong | 17:28 |
| zehicle_ | it's good for a first pass | 17:28 |
| zehicle_ | if there are issues, we can address as they come up | 17:28 |
| rockyg | Yes. Good first pass. | 17:28 |
| davidlenwell | dissagree | 17:28 |
| zehicle_ | ok | 17:28 |
| davidlenwell | I think its the long term solution | 17:28 |
| zehicle_ | davidlenwell, perhaps it is | 17:29 |
| * zehicle_ wants it to be | 17:29 | |
| davidlenwell | I just don't understand why it would be up for debate | 17:29 |
| rockyg | But, whether problems arise with it or not, we have a working solution to demo. | 17:29 |
| zehicle_ | davidlenwell, I don't have issues. was mainly asking for us to hold any issues for later to see if they emerge | 17:30 |
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| davidlenwell | there is a team that works on it full time .. they understand the problem space and are constantly working to keep it secure.. that is way more than we can bring to the problem.. and I won't participate in re-inventing wheels in the openstack ecosystem. | 17:30 |
| catherineD | Maybe this is a topic for the face-2-face. Using Keystone practically we will have 2 Keystone one on refstack.or and the other one on local? How do we sync? Why not using lainchpad? Why do we use launchpad to log in and keystone for others? | 17:31 |
| davidlenwell | period.. so if someone thinks there is a good reason why Vendors woldn't trust there keys in keystone on a foundation run server.. please speak up .. | 17:31 |
| davidlenwell | catherineD: not at all.. the farside will just have the client libs | 17:31 |
| zehicle_ | +1 catherineD on discussion f2f not here | 17:31 |
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| davidlenwell | catherineD: lets talk online .. its actually a topic that should be in a written up spec .. which we are supposed to have in progress for this topic already. | 17:32 |
| catherineD | davidlenwell: +1. Better face-2-face next week | 17:32 |
| davidlenwell | that is why this process is in place .. to refine ideas.. lets use them | 17:32 |
| davidlenwell | this leads me nicely into the next topic of discussion | 17:33 |
| davidlenwell | #topic communication channels | 17:33 |
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| rockyg | David, whether or not ther is an issue, I always prepare for the worst. Having an awareness that we might need to refactor something means we are thinking ahead and may have better solutions, or ways to strengthen current solution to answer concerns. | 17:33 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: I think its the solution.. its how openstack projects authenticate between client and sever .. its ludicris for us to discuss doing it any other way. | 17:34 |
| davidlenwell | discussion over. | 17:34 |
| davidlenwell | we'll work out the how later | 17:34 |
| rockyg | coom channels | 17:35 |
| rockyg | comm | 17:35 |
| davidlenwell | Over a month ago I implimented a new policy called specs | 17:35 |
| davidlenwell | in general we've started to head down the right path with them. working out the how before writing code and having to work in a lot of refactors. | 17:36 |
| davidlenwell | I know its an od idea.. but this is how projects in the ecosystem are dealing with distributed teams .. and for nova and others it has been very effective. | 17:36 |
| davidlenwell | I believe it can be for us.. But we all need to get on board with the work flow. | 17:37 |
| davidlenwell | it is very tempting to just want to work things out in f2f meetings.. | 17:37 |
| davidlenwell | the problem is our team is likely about to grow.. | 17:37 |
| davidlenwell | and almost certainly the people we talk into jumping into the stream with us won't live in the bay area. | 17:37 |
| rockyg | The problem is that until we have a good foundation, we need to determine directions brefore we can drill down to the deail level of specs. | 17:38 |
| davidlenwell | So we cannot rely on those meetings in order for progress to happen | 17:38 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: .. yes you can | 17:38 |
| davidlenwell | write down how you see it and submit it for review | 17:38 |
| davidlenwell | if you are wrong you will be corrected | 17:38 |
| rockyg | No. You casnt'. Until we know the requirements, specs don't mean much because req | 17:38 |
| rockyg | s are the foundation. | 17:38 |
| davidlenwell | the very first part of the spec should be a list of requirements | 17:39 |
| davidlenwell | the problem is this process needs to work async | 17:39 |
| davidlenwell | otherwise we can't be productive .. | 17:39 |
| zehicle_ | IMHO, there's a balance here and part of the reason for having f2f summits is to work out the top level issues and then use specs to make sure we have agreement | 17:39 |
| rockyg | ++ | 17:39 |
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| davidlenwell | zehicle_: rockyg.. the specs work without the agreement | 17:39 |
| catherineD | ++ | 17:40 |
| zehicle_ | davidlenwell, yes but not as quickly | 17:40 |
| rockyg | How many different specs do we have for TCUP? | 17:40 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_: we can't always rely on face to face or phone calls | 17:40 |
| davidlenwell | I hope a lot | 17:40 |
| davidlenwell | thats the point of it | 17:40 |
| rockyg | I mean alreday? | 17:40 |
| davidlenwell | its called a "process" | 17:40 |
| davidlenwell | one spec has been written .. and its been merged | 17:41 |
| zehicle_ | davidlenwell, I agree! I think with the summit looming it's easy to say next week. | 17:41 |
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| davidlenwell | rob didn't need us to tell him what to write in the first version.. he wronte it | 17:41 |
| davidlenwell | then we all jumped in and commented on it | 17:41 |
| davidlenwell | and then he refined it | 17:41 |
| rockyg | And it got trashed. And written aggain. And trashed. And never checked in. | 17:41 |
| davidlenwell | we all have full time jobs and we live all over the world | 17:41 |
| * zehicle_ <3 being the positive role mode *blush* | 17:41 | |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: its merged now | 17:41 |
| davidlenwell | it did get checked in | 17:42 |
| rockyg | We are not working effectively because we don't have enough info to do so. | 17:42 |
| davidlenwell | rather it will be because of how zehicle_ submitted it we have to merge something else first that wasn't rebased the right way .. now thats fixed and its in | 17:42 |
| davidlenwell | if used propperly this allows the team to work async and distributed .. which is how openstack projects work | 17:43 |
| davidlenwell | we are not all under the same roof | 17:43 |
| davidlenwell | we all have different time zones and schedules and personal responsibilites | 17:43 |
| davidlenwell | we can't always sysnc up on the phone or in person and we cannot rely on that to make progress | 17:43 |
| davidlenwell | that is what this process was designed to solve | 17:43 |
| rockyg | I underrstand thaat and have actually worked with teams that weay before. I've managed off shore teams and had them work with teams here. We were very productive. | 17:44 |
| davidlenwell | where there 12 differnet employers involved in 8 time zones ? | 17:44 |
| catherineD | We only have about 15 mins left. I think we should discuss summit meet up and prep for the session ... who is presenting and at the center chair etc ... | 17:44 |
| davidlenwell | thats how openstack projects go | 17:44 |
| davidlenwell | I am | 17:44 |
| rockyg | Becaue we were all on the same page. To get there, we had a foundational understanding of what we were doing. | 17:44 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: lets talk about this offline .. | 17:44 |
| davidlenwell | catherine is right it is time to move on | 17:45 |
| davidlenwell | refstack meetups at summit | 17:45 |
| davidlenwell | #topic refstack meetups at summit | 17:45 |
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| rockyg | I'm going to call the f2f working session at11:30am Monday in the infra pod. | 17:45 |
| davidlenwell | I won't be there | 17:45 |
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| davidlenwell | flight doesn't land until 3pm on monday | 17:46 |
| rockyg | K. | 17:46 |
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| rockyg | There's lots we can work on without you. Not the pres. unless you give us direction for thaat. | 17:46 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: I'd preffer to be present for meetups regarding this project | 17:46 |
| rockyg | We can get supporting stuff together if you give us pointers, though. | 17:46 |
| davidlenwell | its coutner productive otherwise | 17:47 |
| rockyg | No it's not. we can work on specs. | 17:47 |
| davidlenwell | I've got the session it self planned.. | 17:47 |
| rockyg | We can research keystone. | 17:47 |
| davidlenwell | you could do that without a f2f | 17:47 |
| catherineD | davidlenwell: That is good ... so you will be at the center chair and we will be on first row ... | 17:47 |
| davidlenwell | yes | 17:48 |
| davidlenwell | I have slides and diagrams and a whole thing planned .. you'll love it | 17:48 |
| davidlenwell | then we'll do q/a | 17:48 |
| davidlenwell | q and a | 17:48 |
| rockyg | Do you need anything beyond your lapop and a projector for the pres? | 17:48 |
| davidlenwell | no | 17:48 |
| davidlenwell | I do not | 17:48 |
| catherineD | and you have stuff (slide , lauchpad ..) ready ... | 17:48 |
| davidlenwell | yes I do | 17:48 |
| catherineD | that is good .... | 17:48 |
| rockyg | kewl. | 17:48 |
| davidlenwell | still putting images and stuff together for it and refining diagrams | 17:48 |
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| rockyg | Praveen, will you be at summit? | 17:49 |
| davidlenwell | as far as meetups are concerned | 17:49 |
| davidlenwell | I'd be open to a team breakfast .. or us eating lunch together on tuesday before the session | 17:49 |
| zehicle_ | +1 | 17:49 |
| davidlenwell | we also have the session it self to use fot planning and discussion .. that is what it is for | 17:49 |
| rockyg | +1 | 17:49 |
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| zehicle_ | Breakfast w/ the board is Wed. would be cool to have you (all) there too | 17:50 |
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| davidlenwell | also you should all note that at 5:30 pm there is another session that concerns us | 17:50 |
| rockyg | We need to try to get meeting with QA so that we get better comm channels re; tempest | 17:50 |
| catherineD | +1 say we meet for lunch how do we connect and know the table location ? | 17:50 |
| davidlenwell | catherineD: we'll jump into irc and figure it out | 17:50 |
| davidlenwell | since none of us know the venue now its silly to pick a meeting place here | 17:51 |
| davidlenwell | the conf has wifi .. we should all be prepared to use irc while there and probably follow each other on twitter | 17:51 |
| davidlenwell | @davidlenwell is me | 17:51 |
| praveen_dell | ] <rockyg>you didn't approve me for summit | 17:51 |
| praveen_dell | ] <rockyg> sorry my boss didnt approve me for summit :) | 17:51 |
| davidlenwell | boo zehicle_ | 17:51 |
| zehicle_ | was not me | 17:52 |
| rockyg | The pods. Infr has one. We can try to sign up for it Tuesday lunch time on Monday. | 17:52 |
| davidlenwell | well maybe he can come to paris | 17:52 |
| * zehicle_ activities != Dell activities | 17:52 | |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: we don't need a pod | 17:52 |
| rockyg | It's a lovation. | 17:52 |
| davidlenwell | I don't know how much time you ahve spent at a summit | 17:53 |
| rockyg | location. Just sayin | 17:53 |
| davidlenwell | but finding meeting space is really easy | 17:53 |
| davidlenwell | we designed most of tripple o sitting in a hall way in san diego | 17:53 |
| rockyg | Which session 5:30 Tues? | 17:53 |
| davidlenwell | there are hotel lobby's and couches and eating tales all over | 17:53 |
| rockyg | Test natrices and feature parity? | 17:53 |
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| davidlenwell | http://junodesignsummit.sched.org/event/fd84ec7ddc3252270fb73e8e9e09cfba#.U2vEt61dUa0 | 17:54 |
| davidlenwell | yes | 17:54 |
| davidlenwell | #link http://sched.co/1h3Xca9 | 17:54 |
| rockyg | Already in personal schedule ;-) | 17:54 |
| davidlenwell | mine too | 17:54 |
| davidlenwell | I'll see you there | 17:54 |
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| catherineD | So no meeting on Monday? | 17:55 |
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| rockyg | With lots of questions in hand. That may spur the conversattion to better sync us to temprst | 17:55 |
| davidlenwell | I won't be in town until the afternoon .. | 17:55 |
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| davidlenwell | rockyg: we'll just see when we are there | 17:55 |
| rockyg | We can still do Monday. We can work on getting specs cleaned up and filed. Or teesting and filing bugs. | 17:55 |
| davidlenwell | our long term goals are to be an infra project | 17:55 |
| zehicle_ | I need to build a sched but I never manage to get where I'm going | 17:56 |
| davidlenwell | you guys are free to meet up and work without me.. wouldn't consider them meetings | 17:56 |
| zehicle_ | so it's like a tasty desert that I never get to eat | 17:56 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_: I'll rangle you around on tueaday .. covers most of the refstack things | 17:56 |
| rockyg | So that fits meeting should be on tuesday or later. Tuesday is tight so, Wednesday? | 17:56 |
| zehicle_ | once I make it to the design summit, I can usually seek in | 17:57 |
| davidlenwell | what fits meeting ? | 17:57 |
| rockyg | Or we could just announce we'll be hanfging out somewhere for some timeperiod for q/a | 17:57 |
| davidlenwell | lets move offline .. we're out of time in here | 17:57 |
| davidlenwell | #endmeeting | 17:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 8 17:57:58 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-05-08-17.01.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-05-08-17.01.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-05-08-17.01.log.html | 17:58 |
| zehicle_ | gotta drive home and eat. then back in #refstack. nice work davidlenwell | 17:58 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura banix s3wong mandeep: hi | 18:01 |
| banix | hi SumitNaiksatam and all | 18:01 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: hello | 18:01 |
| s3wong | and hello to everyone else | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets get started | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 8 18:01:42 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic GP bp spec review | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89469 | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this was merged | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all for contributing and working towards this | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | an important milestone in the process | 18:02 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: great. thanks to you for all your work as well | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: thanks, great team effort | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we have to transition to the next step for pushing the patches | 18:03 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hi | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we are obviously already working towards that | 18:04 |
| mandeep | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mandeep: hi | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | our PoC is a step in that direction | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets first touch quickly on the model | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Policy Model | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we made some minor tweaks | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am referring to the EPG to Contract relationship change | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | most of you already know this | 18:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | just reiterating here | 18:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the ContractProvider/ConsumerScope is now optional when specifying the relationship | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so you can say EPG X consumes/provides Contract Y (without having to create the relationship object) | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this probably makes it much simpler and easier to incrementally consume this model | 18:07 |
| banix | I agree | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: thanks, yeah i mostly heard everyone in agreement with this change | 18:07 |
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| Louis_ | so a contract can consume a list of EPGs? | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: er…its the other way around | 18:08 |
| mandeep | Yes, agreed | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mandeep: ok | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: EPGs can consume one or more Contracts | 18:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok, just wanted to highlight that change | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if no other thoughts/questions, then moving on | 18:09 |
| Louis_ | ok, so a EPG can provide one or more contracts? | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: yes (and/or consume one or more contracts) | 18:10 |
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| s3wong | we lost SumitNaiksatam | 18:10 |
| Louis_ | is this shown in an updated model diagram? | 18:10 |
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| mandeep | Let us wait for SumitNaiksatam to join | 18:10 |
| Louis_ | is this shown in an updated model diagram? | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sorry, i got bumped out | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: yes | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: see: https://docs.google.com/a/noironetworks.com/presentation/d/1Nn1HjghAvk2RTPwvltSrnCUJkidWKWY2ckU7OYAVNpo/edit?pli=1#slide=id.g1d6aae2d8_5651 | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and: https://docs.google.com/a/noironetworks.com/presentation/d/1Nn1HjghAvk2RTPwvltSrnCUJkidWKWY2ckU7OYAVNpo/edit?pli=1#slide=id.g12c5a79d7_4044 | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: looks okay? | 18:13 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: perhaps we can come back to this | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic PoC Status Update | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info PoC branch is: https://github.com/noironetworks/neutron-group-policy/tree/group-policy-poc | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we are full steam ahead on this | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yesterday we created the first EPG and EP! | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yay! | 18:15 |
| mandeep | +1 | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | baby steps | 18:15 |
| s3wong | amazing | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so as of now, EPG, EP, Contract, Policy Rule, Policy Classifier, and Policy Action resources are implemented | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this is what we will have in the first iteration | 18:16 |
| mandeep | It was a significant integration across devstack, python-neutronclient + CLI, group-policy manager + plugin, ... so a good ene-toend flowe | 18:16 |
| rkukura | also BD and RD | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mandeep: +1 | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, thanks! | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i only keep thining about the app guy! :-P | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *thinking | 18:16 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: need to do a bit more of that myself ;) | 18:17 |
| Louis_ | ok i see the provided_contracts/consumed_contracts list in the EPG REST table | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: we need the balance :-) | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: yes | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | on the model implementation, there are things which are not tested yet | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | like the Contract hierarchy | 18:18 |
| marun | still not on gerrit :p | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: getting there :-) | 18:18 |
| marun | that should be the first step, not the last. | 18:18 |
| marun | I guarantee patch review is going to be more complicated by this path. | 18:18 |
| marun | But, sometimes lessons need to be learned the hard way :) | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: well its not yet ready for gerrit yet, there are many moving peices and we are in teh process validating how well the peices fit | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: hence this is called a PoC | 18:19 |
| marun | disagree entirely | 18:19 |
| marun | but we can agree to disagree | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: we dont want to waste reviewers cycles on things which are not baked | 18:20 |
| marun | 'waste time'? | 18:20 |
| marun | you mark it as 'WIP' | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: absolutely | 18:20 |
| marun | or 'DRAFT' | 18:20 |
| marun | working outside of gerrit limits visibility to the subteam, and that's not a good thing. | 18:20 |
| marun | it also encourages monolithic changes without oversight. | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: disagree | 18:21 |
| marun | all of which will bite in actual review | 18:21 |
| marun | as you will see soon enough :) | 18:21 |
| rkukura | marun: We could push the whole thing as a single WIP review on gerrit, but will probably want to push the real code in smaller chunks for review | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: that sounds more like a threat! | 18:21 |
| marun | take it as you will | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: not a very constructive to phrase it | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:22 |
| marun | I hold all feature additions to the same standards. | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: as does everyone else here | 18:22 |
| marun | If only! | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: over to you on the mapping implementation | 18:22 |
| banix | rkukura: can you give a two line brief description of the mapping work if you don’t mind | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: great progress on the keeping in sync with the model changes | 18:23 |
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| rkukura | ok | 18:24 |
| rkukura | basically, the mapping does two things now: | 18:24 |
| rkukura | first, if an EPG is created without passing in a BD, one is implicitly created for the EPG | 18:25 |
| rkukura | similarly, if a BD is created (implicitly or explicitly) and no RD is passed in, a default RD for the tenant is created/found | 18:26 |
| rkukura | second, the RD is mapped to a neutron router, the BD is mapped to a neutron network, the EPG is mapped to a neutron subnet, and the EP is mapped to a neutron port | 18:27 |
| rkukura | so we were able to use the GP API to create an EPG, create an EP in it, and then get a port for EP and use it to launch a nova VM | 18:28 |
| banix | thanks rkukura for the summary | 18:28 |
| rkukura | that’s basically where the mapping stands | 18:28 |
| rkukura | we’re starting to work on mapping the policy to SG and FW rules | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | also some aspects of the mapping are configuration driven | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: great summary | 18:29 |
| Louis_ | why is there a 1-1 binding and a many-many association between a RD and a router? | 18:29 |
| banix | the BD and RD are created implicitly. right? at least that is the desired workflow? | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: yes | 18:30 |
| rkukura | banix: either implicit or explicit BR and RD creation should work | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: however its possible to provide them explicitly as well | 18:30 |
| rkukura | Louis_: Right now, I think the mapping will use one router per RD | 18:30 |
| banix | ok thanks | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: RD to routers is 1:many | 18:30 |
| rkukura | would be good to know if we really need multiple routers in a single RD | 18:31 |
| Louis_ | i see in the code there is both a binding and an association | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: there might be use cases | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: good question | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: we want to remove the association | 18:32 |
| rkukura | we allow multiple subnets per EPG in order to support adding more EPs than one subnet will hold | 18:32 |
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| s3wong | rkurkura: certainly makes it easier for me to just fetch the router via context | 18:33 |
| rkukura | agreed we should remove both association tables from the DB model if we can | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yeah | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any more thoughts/questions on the mapping? | 18:34 |
| rkukura | s3wong: Unless we have a use case for the PoC, I think we should limit the PoC to one router per RD | 18:34 |
| banix | just a general question on the model: | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, agree | 18:34 |
| Louis_ | wouldn't it be better to remove the binding? | 18:34 |
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| s3wong | rkukura: and I do not disagree with that :-) | 18:34 |
| banix | we had discussed this early on but not recently. what is the connectivity within an EPG? | 18:35 |
| Louis_ | and just have the association? | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: its actually not a many:many to relationship | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: RD to routers, that is | 18:35 |
| rkukura | s3wong: do you see an immediate need for multiple routers in the same RD? If so, we should talk about how we decide which one(s) the EPG’s subnets get connected to, which I’m working on today | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura s3wong: i think in the implicit workflow, one router is good | 18:36 |
| s3wong | rkukura: no, there isn't. We should focus on getting contract done. One per RD is definitely good for PoC | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: EPs within EPG have connectivity | 18:37 |
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| banix | SumitNaiksatam: they do in our implementation but in the model? | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: this behavior can be overriden by setting attributes in teh BD | 18:38 |
| rkukura | s3wong: I see now that you said “I do not DISAGREE with that”, which I read as “I do not AGREE with that” | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: yes, that is the current default semantics in the model as well | 18:38 |
| s3wong | rkukura: sorry - should have cap-lock the word :-) | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: two negatives :-) | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: any concerns with those semantics? | 18:39 |
| rkukura | need to take it easy on us native English speakers ;) | 18:39 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: ok we can disucss more later | 18:39 |
| s3wong | rkukura SumitNaiksatam: my crooked English... :-( | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong rkukura: :-) | 18:39 |
| rkukura | I just need to read more carefully | 18:39 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: not a big concern but in general the app developer expectation may be different | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: ok, any examples? | 18:40 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: app servers in a tier may not need talking to each other | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: ok | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so the proposal was to put attributes in the BD, which can define that behavior | 18:41 |
| rkukura | banix: As I recall, SGs have an implicit rule allowing all traffic within the subnet. Not sure if we’d be able to use the existing SG API to limit this. | 18:41 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: i think in the model we may want to have the default as no connectivity but i realize in the mapping driver we may not be able to do that | 18:42 |
| banix | rkukura: yes i understand | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: we can probably have attribute in the BD, like “ISOLATED” (probably not a a good name) | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: and its setting can be driven by configuration | 18:43 |
| banix | sure let’s discuss at the summit or after the summit | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: if the default BD creation is with this attribute set, then we can support that behavior | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: that way we dont ahve to set it for the ref impl | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: ok | 18:44 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks! | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for the update | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: over to you for the service integration | 18:45 |
| s3wong | Working on the code now. Couple things I want to raise here, to ensure I am on the right path | 18:45 |
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| s3wong | (1) since the API is REDIRECT -> [the actual service UUID]. I don't see a need to add anything on the mapping db | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: agree (at least for PoC) | 18:46 |
| s3wong | so what it amounts to would be writing out the create_policy_action_postcommit | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: well let me take that back | 18:46 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: yes? | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: how would we undo the action, when we remove the contract? | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: never mind, that will still work, becaue the uuid will still be in the contract | 18:47 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: for now? update_firewall to disable it from router | 18:47 |
| s3wong | and yes, the UUID would still be in the db | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: sorry, you are right, i think it will work | 18:47 |
| s3wong | (just not the mapping db) | 18:48 |
| s3wong | (2) this is really question for SumitNaiksatam: is update_firewall the right call to enable FW? | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: yes | 18:49 |
| s3wong | my understanding (via reading FW code yesterday) is, there is one instance of FWaaS per tenant | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: one can also enable at the granularity of the rule level (but not needed here) | 18:49 |
| s3wong | so it would automatically be enable on all the routers belonging to the tenant? | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: yes, one per tenant | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i think default might be that its enabled by default | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: but while creating the firewall, i think you can set the admin state to be down | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: so although the firewall is there on each router, its not enabled | 18:51 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: OK - so it case the policy_action is removed, I just set the admin state of the FW to down to remove the redirect action? | 18:51 |
| rkukura | s3wong: wouldn’t that effect all traffic for the tenant, not just traffic for that one action? | 18:52 |
| Louis_ | but what of mulitple contracts use that FW instance? | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: yes, the iptables rule should get removed | 18:53 |
| s3wong | rkukura: yes - unfortunately we need to complete the work of service insertion and steering to change this behavior | 18:53 |
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| banix | Louis_: i think for now only one contract using the fw is ok | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_, rkukura: yes as s3wong mentioned, this has much broader scope | 18:53 |
| Louis_ | agree for the poc | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the current discussion is in teh context of the PoC | 18:53 |
| s3wong | Louis_: for PoC, I think it is fine | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: yesh | 18:53 |
| mandeep | Louis_: And we need to get started in parallel with the services work that is also still in discussion | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mandeep: yes | 18:54 |
| s3wong | mandeep Louis_: with pretty much the same people in that subteam :-) | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: thats a whole other discussion that is happening in parallel | 18:54 |
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| mandeep | s3wong: :-) | 18:55 |
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| mandeep | s3wong: At least marun will be happy that it is not a monolithic change | 18:55 |
| marun | :) | 18:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic CLI and Client | 18:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Hemanth made greate progress | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *great | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | he could not attend today | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix followed that up with quick progress as well | 18:56 |
| s3wong | banix would have to proxy hemanthravi :-) | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: thanks for jumping in yesterday and pushing out the patch yesterday night | 18:57 |
| mandeep | +1 That was phenomenal, first pass integration ;-) | 18:57 |
| mandeep | +1, thanks banix | 18:57 |
| banix | sure | 18:57 |
| Louis_ | will there be irc meeting next week? | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: no meetings next week | 18:58 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #announcement no Group policy IRC meeting next week | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | before s3wong demands that it be made official :-P | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks mandeep for the cue! | 18:58 |
| Louis_ | but there is design session at summit | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Louis_: yes | 18:59 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | design summit session discussion is on the agenda | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but we have not gotten to it | 18:59 |
| s3wong | one minute to our next meeting :-) | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | got distracted with some unnecessary discsussions earlier! | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is ronak here? | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps not. | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we probably have to yield to the next meeting | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so lets call it a wrap | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all for the awesome work | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | see you at the summit next week | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | safe travels! | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:01 |
| mandeep | thanks | 19:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 8 19:01:09 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-05-08-18.01.html | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-05-08-18.01.txt | 19:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-05-08-18.01.log.html | 19:01 |
| rkukura | thanks SumitNaiksatam! | 19:01 |
| banix | bye | 19:01 |
| rkukura | bye | 19:01 |
| s3wong | thanks! | 19:01 |
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