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| krotscheck | #startmeeting StoryBoard | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 2 15:00:32 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is krotscheck. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: StoryBoard)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | o/ | 15:01 |
| krotscheck | Hey there SergeyLukjanov. Anyone else here? | 15:01 |
| fungi | lurking | 15:01 |
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| krotscheck | Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard#Agenda | 15:01 |
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| krotscheck | Last Meeting’s agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard#Last_Meeting | 15:02 |
| NikitaKonovalov | Hi | 15:02 |
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| krotscheck | Ok, so we have 4 specs out there waiting for approval. Unfortunately, nobody in StoryBoard can actually approve storyboard specs. | 15:02 |
| krotscheck | Or rather, StoryBoard Core can’t approve storyboard specs. | 15:03 |
| krotscheck | Which means we’re more or less dead in the water. | 15:04 |
| krotscheck | Options are: | 15:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | krotscheck, I found NikitaKonovalov :) | 15:04 |
| krotscheck | SergeyLukjanov: Thanks for finding him :) | 15:04 |
| krotscheck | Options are: | 15:04 |
| krotscheck | 1- Annoy infra-core so that they approve things | 15:04 |
| krotscheck | 2- Just make sure we have consensus on code contributors and start dev anyway. | 15:05 |
| krotscheck | 3- Create storyboard-specs. | 15:05 |
| krotscheck | I’m sure there are others. | 15:05 |
| krotscheck | #topic Specs | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs (Meeting topic: StoryBoard)" | 15:05 | |
| * krotscheck forgot the subject | 15:05 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, we have storyboard-core team that add ttx, krotscheck and NikitaKonovalov to the infra-core folks | 15:05 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | current position re -specs repos is to have per-program specs repo | 15:06 |
| krotscheck | SergeyLukjanov: Do you have any alternatives? | 15:06 |
| * SergeyLukjanov thinking now | 15:07 | |
| krotscheck | I understand that there are certain in-place policies. I’m saying that as a result of these policies, nobody actually working on storyboard has design approval rights on storyboard. | 15:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I'm ok with the infra-specs | 15:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I didn't expect specs DDoS for storyboard | 15:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, #1 lgtm | 15:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | correction - #1 + #2 | 15:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, like if we have enough positive marks from sb-core than start working | 15:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and than someone from infra-core will approve | 15:09 |
| krotscheck | Ok, I’ll put that on the infra meeting agenda | 15:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | (probably, we should wait for approval anyway to avoid last min -1's) | 15:09 |
| krotscheck | To be honest, I feel that infra-core is intentionally making our work hard so that we build the tools to make their existing toolchain obsolete. | 15:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yup, krotscheck, please, add it to the infra meeting agenda | 15:09 |
| krotscheck | Alright. | 15:10 |
| NikitaKonovalov | should we set a special topic for our specs? | 15:10 |
| NikitaKonovalov | that whould make searching easier | 15:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | krotscheck, sb isn't making infra toolchain obsolete, only lp-related stuff | 15:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it's a very small part | 15:10 |
| krotscheck | SergeyLukjanov: We’ve just had two pushbacks from infra-core. One on using screenshot markup tools that aren’t in storyboard, now specifications. | 15:11 |
| krotscheck | Well, pushback is a strong word | 15:12 |
| krotscheck | I think the spec thing was an unintended consequence. | 15:12 |
| krotscheck | Anyway: NikitaKonovalov- I like that idea. | 15:12 |
| krotscheck | NikitaKonovalov: Any suggestions? | 15:12 |
| NikitaKonovalov | git review -t storyboard | 15:12 |
| NikitaKonovalov | and search with project:infra-spec topic:storyboard | 15:13 |
| krotscheck | That works for me. | 15:13 |
| krotscheck | Any objections? | 15:13 |
| krotscheck | That’ll at least make it easier until tuesday | 15:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ++ for topics | 15:14 |
| NikitaKonovalov | krotscheck: what's going to happen in tuesday? | 15:14 |
| NikitaKonovalov | on | 15:14 |
| krotscheck | NikitaKonovalov: Infra meeting. | 15:14 |
| NikitaKonovalov | got it | 15:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | -specs has been created because people want to have review tool for specs and it's not clear when it'll be possible in sb (or even will it possible or not) | 15:14 |
| krotscheck | #agreed Submit storyboard specs with “-t storyboard" | 15:15 |
| krotscheck | We have 4 specs out there right now. Does anyone want to bring up a specific specification, or shall we leave discussion in gerrit? | 15:16 |
| krotscheck | I have a +1 from Nikita on Storyboard subscription, and a comment +1 from Thierry both on channel and in the history. Does anyone have any objection to us considering that spec approved? | 15:17 |
| krotscheck | Actually, that’s voteworty | 15:18 |
| * krotscheck can never remember that syntax | 15:19 | |
| NikitaKonovalov | here it is http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html#voting | 15:19 |
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| krotscheck | #startvote Consider #95307 ready for development? Yes, No, More Discussion | 15:20 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Consider #95307 ready for development? Valid vote options are Yes, No, More, Discussion. | 15:20 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 15:20 |
| krotscheck | Urm, let’s assume “More” == “More Discussion” and ignore that last vote. | 15:21 |
| krotscheck | #vote Yes | 15:21 |
| NikitaKonovalov | #vote Yes | 15:21 |
| krotscheck | #endvote | 15:21 |
| openstack | Voted on "Consider #95307 ready for development?" Results are | 15:21 |
| openstack | Yes (2): NikitaKonovalov, krotscheck | 15:21 |
| krotscheck | Ok. We’ve got two other specs that I feel are high priority, search and tagging. | 15:22 |
| krotscheck | Everyone try to make some time to look over those. | 15:22 |
| krotscheck | #topic Ongoing Work | 15:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | IMO we should decide after tomorrow's discussion @ infra meeting re handling specs | 15:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ongoing Work (Meeting topic: StoryBoard)" | 15:22 | |
| krotscheck | SergeyLukjanov: We can always backtrack. | 15:23 |
| krotscheck | #topic Ongoing work (krotscheck) | 15:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ongoing work (krotscheck) (Meeting topic: StoryBoard)" | 15:23 | |
| krotscheck | Ok, so I’ve been doing approvals, rebases, minor tweaks and specs, but not a whole lot of code last week. | 15:24 |
| krotscheck | I did commit a new puppet module for puppet-storyboard though | 15:24 |
| krotscheck | I still have to backport that. | 15:24 |
| fungi | for the record, the lack of specs approval at this point shouldn't block actually working on things defined in those specs. we're still debating the layout of the specs repo in https://review.openstack.org/94440 which is why *none* of the actual infra specs have been approved yet. it's not an attempt to make things hard on anyone, it's just that it's not ready for use yet | 15:24 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Fair point | 15:25 |
| krotscheck | No real other updates for me. | 15:25 |
| krotscheck | My hope is that I’m going to get the puppet module backported this week, as well as initial work on the subscriptions. | 15:26 |
| krotscheck | #topic Ongoing Work (NikitaKonovalov) | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ongoing Work (NikitaKonovalov) (Meeting topic: StoryBoard)" | 15:26 | |
| NikitaKonovalov | I've been reviewing code and specs | 15:27 |
| NikitaKonovalov | Some minor fixes also | 15:27 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I've updated the refresh token support on the client side | 15:27 |
| NikitaKonovalov | now it is based on a $timeout, not an $interval | 15:27 |
| krotscheck | Cool. | 15:28 |
| NikitaKonovalov | So my plan is to start working on search | 15:28 |
| krotscheck | Scanning.... | 15:29 |
| krotscheck | That query string format is from oslo’s array notation? | 15:29 |
| krotscheck | Or is that a pecan thing? | 15:29 |
| NikitaKonovalov | well, it's neither | 15:30 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I think we should discusll it | 15:30 |
| krotscheck | I agree. | 15:30 |
| krotscheck | Ok, cool, I’ll comment there. | 15:30 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I was thinking about gerrit style search | 15:31 |
| NikitaKonovalov | but that may appear to be a bit complicated to implement | 15:31 |
| krotscheck | Well, your approach leaves us open to easily adding search-by-tag once Thierry’s spec solidifies. | 15:31 |
| krotscheck | It’s definitely something to discuss | 15:32 |
| krotscheck | #action Everyone Go look at the search spec and discuss there. | 15:32 |
| krotscheck | Anything else? | 15:32 |
| NikitaKonovalov | that's all I guess | 15:32 |
| krotscheck | Cool. | 15:33 |
| krotscheck | #topic Ongoing Work | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ongoing Work (Meeting topic: StoryBoard)" | 15:33 | |
| krotscheck | I think ttx is traveling | 15:33 |
| krotscheck | Also, yolanda is in spain and likely at home already | 15:33 |
| krotscheck | #topic Open Discussion | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: StoryBoard)" | 15:34 | |
| krotscheck | Anything? | 15:35 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I think I can make some more auth improvements, like remove tokens on logout | 15:36 |
| krotscheck | You mean an explicit destroy method? | 15:36 |
| NikitaKonovalov | And may be a button "Log out on all devices" | 15:36 |
| NikitaKonovalov | The OAuth spec says that there should be a way to revoke both access and refresh tokens | 15:37 |
| NikitaKonovalov | So if a User clicks Log Out it means his token should no longer be usable | 15:37 |
| krotscheck | That makes sense. Perhaps adding DELETE and GET /? to oauth/token to allow more generic management? | 15:38 |
| NikitaKonovalov | yep, something like that | 15:38 |
| krotscheck | I agree that that’s a good idea. | 15:38 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I'll make a story for that | 15:39 |
| krotscheck | Awesome. | 15:39 |
| krotscheck | The “Hiring someone else for storyboard” has taken a twist, I’m currently interviewing interns. | 15:39 |
| krotscheck | 2 more candidates this afternoon, after which I’ll send my report to our recruiter. | 15:40 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | krotscheck, cool, new blood for sb :) | 15:40 |
| krotscheck | Indeed. | 15:40 |
| krotscheck | I can’t go into more detail because of Lawyer things. | 15:41 |
| krotscheck | Oh, one note: The initial UX team meeting is in 2 hours. | 15:41 |
| krotscheck | If you have the time, take a look :) | 15:42 |
| krotscheck | Anything else? | 15:42 |
| * NikitaKonovalov has no more ideas for today | 15:42 | |
| krotscheck | Alrightey | 15:43 |
| krotscheck | #endmeeting | 15:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 2 15:43:04 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-06-02-15.00.html | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-06-02-15.00.txt | 15:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-06-02-15.00.log.html | 15:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thanks folks | 15:43 |
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| adi | hi all | 16:58 |
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| jcoufal | #startmeeting UX | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 2 17:00:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jcoufal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: UX)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ux' | 17:00 |
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| jcoufal | Hi all! | 17:00 |
| adi | hello! | 17:00 |
| jrist | o/ | 17:01 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 17:01 |
| jackib | Hi! | 17:01 |
| Toshi | Hi! | 17:01 |
| gothicmindfood | o/ | 17:01 |
| davlaps | o/ | 17:01 |
| jcoufal | #topic Welcome | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Welcome (Meeting topic: UX)" | 17:02 | |
| jcoufal | I would love to welcome you all to the historically first OpenStack UX meeting. | 17:02 |
| jcoufal | It's great to see all of you here and I hope it will help us to organize our efforts better and to move things forward | 17:03 |
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| lblanchard | hi all!! | 17:03 |
| krotscheck | o/ | 17:04 |
| jcoufal | As long as this is our first meeting, let me just mention few facts how this is supposed to look like: | 17:04 |
| jcoufal | 1) Meetings are going to happen twice a month. At this moment it is scheduled for 1st and 3rd Monday in a month at 1700 UTC at this channel. | 17:04 |
| julim | hi all | 17:04 |
| jcoufal | There is a possibility for a change (alternating) which we will discuss later today | 17:04 |
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| jcoufal | 2) Agenda for each meeting is always available at this link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/UX | 17:05 |
| jcoufal | Feel free to add any topic which you are interested in and which you want to discuss at the following meeting | 17:05 |
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| jcoufal | 3) At the end of each meeting there will be space for open discussion where we can discuss any topics which were not scheduled | 17:06 |
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| jcoufal | 4) Log for our meetings will be stored at following address: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ux/ | 17:07 |
| jcoufal | That's all from the introduction. Does anybody have any question regarding meeting organization? | 17:08 |
| lblanchard | all sounds good to me! | 17:08 |
| jcoufal | Great, let's move on | 17:09 |
| jcoufal | #topic Meeting Time | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Meeting Time (Meeting topic: UX)" | 17:09 | |
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| jcoufal | So based on the poll (http://doodle.com/3m29dkn3ef2em5in) I selected this time as the candidate for our meetings | 17:09 |
| jcoufal | though there are still people who can't make it this time | 17:09 |
| jcoufal | I also asked people to fill themselves into timezone overview, so we can make the time the most convenient to all | 17:10 |
| jcoufal | here is the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ux-meetings | 17:10 |
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| jcoufal | We have very wide range of timezones | 17:10 |
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| jcoufal | for example for adi, it is pretty late night at this very moment | 17:11 |
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| jcoufal | so the suggestion is to alternate the times | 17:11 |
| adi | 22:41, still not bad ;) | 17:11 |
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| lblanchard | adi: ooo that's pretty late :) | 17:11 |
| jcoufal | 1st monday in a month at 1700 UTC, 3rd wednesday in a month at 1500 UTC | 17:12 |
| jcoufal | with alternating mondays and wednesday we should cover all interested participants and still majority of us should be able to attend | 17:12 |
| jcoufal | thoughts? | 17:12 |
| stevedoll | those work for me | 17:12 |
| jackib | works for me! | 17:12 |
| GregHint | Works for me! | 17:12 |
| david-lyle | +1 | 17:13 |
| adi | works | 17:13 |
| lblanchard | +1 | 17:13 |
| Toshi | +1 | 17:13 |
| gothicmindfood | +1 | 17:13 |
| lblanchard | although I might miss a few just due to pure confusion on my part ;) | 17:14 |
| julim | +1 but may miss some based on timing | 17:14 |
| jcoufal | Looks like one voice agreement :) | 17:14 |
| jcoufal | lblanchard, julim: I will try to remind the meetings at least from the beginning | 17:15 |
| jcoufal | also mention next meeting time at the end of each meeting | 17:15 |
| lblanchard | jcoufal: sounds great…we can all try to do the same in the UX channel maybe | 17:15 |
| julim | that would be good jcoufal | 17:15 |
| jacalcat | OK for me. | 17:15 |
| jcoufal | perfect | 17:15 |
| lblanchard | jcoufal: plus the wiki will show next meeting | 17:15 |
| jacalcat | Would it be possible to send out meeting invitations as well? | 17:16 |
| jcoufal | #action jcoufal to reflect meeting times in wiki, ical, etc. | 17:16 |
| jcoufal | jacalcat: if you add to the etherpad your e-mail addresses, I can add you as participants | 17:16 |
| david-lyle | jacalcat: you can sync with the openstack meetings calendar as well | 17:16 |
| lblanchard | jacalcat: I haven't seen meeting invites within OpenStack much at all…I've normally just created personal ones for my calendar | 17:16 |
| jcoufal | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ux-meetings | 17:16 |
| lblanchard | david-lyle: ah right openstack calendar! | 17:16 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: yeah, though it is pretty full :) | 17:17 |
| lblanchard | david-lyle: I did that once and got flooded with them all…but maybe there is a way to only choose uX | 17:17 |
| david-lyle | https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/bj05mroquq28jhud58esggqmh4@group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics | 17:17 |
| david-lyle | just decline the ones you don't want | 17:17 |
| jcoufal | small reminder - currently we have just mondays, I need to arrange the change for mon&wed | 17:18 |
| david-lyle | advantage is all invite times are in UTC and work correctly even over DST switches | 17:18 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: yeah, that is much safer option | 17:18 |
| jcoufal | those time shifts are sometimes confusing | 17:18 |
| jcoufal | #link https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/bj05mroquq28jhud58esggqmh4@group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics - meetings calendar if you want to sync up on meeting times | 17:19 |
| jcoufal | great, all agreed let's move on | 17:19 |
| jcoufal | I will jump a little bit in the agenda and get back to the second topic later | 17:20 |
| jcoufal | #topic StoryBoard and UX | 17:20 |
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| krotscheck | HI | 17:20 |
| jcoufal | Hey krotscheck | 17:20 |
| krotscheck | Sorry, I’m interrupting. Go ahead. | 17:20 |
| jcoufal | Np. We already discussed using StoryBoard at the Summit and we agreed that we can jump to using it right away | 17:21 |
| jcoufal | The advantage for storyboard is that we can provide usability feedback | 17:21 |
| jcoufal | And we have nothing to loose if we switch from current launchpad to storyboard now | 17:21 |
| lblanchard | +1 to that, unless anyone has been poking around and has found that there are major blockers that we have in Launchpad that don't exist in Storyboard today | 17:21 |
| lblanchard | but I didn't find anything…current Storyboard looks great to me! | 17:22 |
| jcoufal | Apart from some small suffering as Thierry mentioned :) | 17:22 |
| jcoufal | So we have also blessing from infra team | 17:22 |
| lblanchard | jcoufal: what's the small suffering? Getting items into Storyboard? | 17:22 |
| jcoufal | It is just matter of allowing UX project in StoryBoard which got a bit complicated | 17:22 |
| jcoufal | lblanchard: I guess he meant usability :) | 17:23 |
| lblanchard | jcoufal: haha | 17:23 |
| krotscheck | The biggest hurdle seems to be that the existing project configuration automatically creates a git repository. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96549/ | 17:23 |
| lblanchard | krotscheck: hmm yes, we probably don't need that…is this an issue? Or can is just remain empty? | 17:23 |
| david-lyle | I think a git repo actually would be useful | 17:23 |
| david-lyle | for storing finalized designs | 17:24 |
| lblanchard | david-lyle: that gets into the discussion of where we store our files :) | 17:24 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: it was objected, that git might be problematic for larger binary files | 17:24 |
| krotscheck | lblanchard: Depends on who you ask. I’m ambivalent, I just want to see you guys squared away and happy. | 17:24 |
| krotscheck | jcoufal, lblanchard, david-lyle: I can see a case being made for a docs-style repo (similar to *-specs) where persona work can go, but I’m not certain the toolchain is UX friendly. | 17:25 |
| jcoufal | lblanchard: I know that Jim was against setting a git repo if it is not needed | 17:25 |
| krotscheck | Aside: Current story for UX team features is here: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/85 | 17:25 |
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| david-lyle | jcoufal, because of versioning?? | 17:25 |
| lblanchard | jcoufal, david-lyle, krotscheck: Perhaps we could use it for our design templates? It would be a small number of files, wouldn't get huge. | 17:26 |
| jcoufal | david-lyle: I believe it was mostly because of user experience when storing and requesting changes | 17:26 |
| jcoufal | krotscheck: is there a problem in setting a project without git repo and if we decide to store files there to add one later? | 17:26 |
| david-lyle | krotscheck: my concern is the finalized design documents now live on an askbot server not maintained by openstack, this is problematic | 17:26 |
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| krotscheck | jcoufal: The problem is that the toolchain doesn’t know how to do that yet, and I don’t know enough about jeepyb yet to make that happen. | 17:27 |
| lblanchard | david-lyle: +1 we have decided to stop askbot for final designs…but have come back to using personal storage and links in ML for now…which isn't a great final solution either | 17:27 |
| david-lyle | I don't know that the iteration takes place using git, but the result could be stored, but it could get large | 17:27 |
| jcoufal | krotscheck: and the problem with having an empty repo? | 17:27 |
| krotscheck | jcoufal: I don’t know. | 17:28 |
| krotscheck | jcoufal: Ask on infra? | 17:28 |
| jcoufal | will do | 17:28 |
| jcoufal | #action jcoufal discuss git repo issues so we can move UX project under StoryBoard | 17:29 |
| jcoufal | after that we should be able to migrate things from launchpad and smoothly move to StoryBoard | 17:29 |
| jcoufal | everybody is in favor of storyboard? :) | 17:30 |
| jcoufal | (I guess I should have asked earlier) :) | 17:30 |
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| Toshi | Sure! | 17:31 |
| lblanchard | +1 | 17:31 |
| jcoufal | alright, moving on | 17:32 |
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| jcoufal | #topic Wireframes Review Tool | 17:32 |
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| jcoufal | There is suggestion that we can start using InVision for reviewing our wreframes | 17:33 |
| jcoufal | Couple of people already used it in the past | 17:33 |
| adi | okay | 17:33 |
| lblanchard | has anyone else worked with this tool? | 17:33 |
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| lblanchard | it isn't opensource…so I didn't know if that would be a blocker | 17:33 |
| jackib | yep, I have | 17:33 |
| julim | do we all need to use the same tool, or would it make sense for any tool to be used but to publish to a common format, e.g. JPG, PDF, etc. | 17:33 |
| lblanchard | or if anyone has used any opensource tool similar for reviewing designs and having comments, history | 17:34 |
| lblanchard | julim: no, this is just uploaded images | 17:34 |
| julim | ah lblanchard | 17:34 |
| Toshi | Can we use it free of charge? | 17:34 |
| jackib | there is a chance we could get a free version donated to the community | 17:34 |
| lblanchard | this tool is just for the review piece | 17:34 |
| julim | Auto-Awesome (works on several browsers) would be fairly easy (free) too | 17:34 |
| julim | and allows annotation | 17:34 |
| lblanchard | julim: keeps history of versions? | 17:34 |
| julim | lblanchard - I don't believe so | 17:35 |
| jcoufal | julim: I don't think we *have to* use the same tool, but it would be easier for people - they will be used to the same workflow | 17:35 |
| adi | as far as review goes, its okay. I thought InVision was pretty complex to design | 17:35 |
| julim | ok jcoufal. makes sense if folks are collaborating on the same design to use the same tool. | 17:36 |
| lblanchard | adi: have you found anything that would work better? | 17:36 |
| jcoufal | this is the tool btw: http://www.invisionapp.com/ | 17:36 |
| lblanchard | I'm definitely open to any tool…this seemed to be the front-runner…then I noticed krotscheck was using it for storyboard too | 17:37 |
| gothicmindfood | there have been some rumblings about people not wanting to use non-open-source tooling at all | 17:37 |
| lblanchard | krotscheck: did you all try any other tools? | 17:37 |
| gothicmindfood | for an open-source project | 17:37 |
| lblanchard | gothicmindfood: I'm happy to use an open-source tool for this | 17:37 |
| lblanchard | gothicmindfood: just haven't found one :( | 17:37 |
| gothicmindfood | lblanchard: yeah, when I've heard the rumblings, I've pointed that out :) | 17:37 |
| krotscheck | lblanchard: Nope, I got an invite from piet, and said “Good enough, back to work" | 17:37 |
| jcoufal | I used it some time ago, didn't check how far away actually it evolved | 17:37 |
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| lblanchard | krotscheck: ah okay | 17:37 |
| jackib | We could look at what ubuntu does. I think they use some combo of balsamic and wiki | 17:38 |
| lblanchard | well maybe folks can keep an eye out and do some research on open-source tools in this space? | 17:38 |
| jackib | so all designs and I think older versions along with critique is in one place | 17:38 |
| lblanchard | jackib: +1 Although I think balsamic is $$ | 17:38 |
| adi | i've used balsamiq and pencil | 17:38 |
| jackib | yep it is | 17:38 |
| lblanchard | but great idea to try and understand what other opensource designers are doing | 17:38 |
| jackib | FYI - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Design | 17:39 |
| lblanchard | adi: I tried pencil out…but it's more for wireframing | 17:39 |
| lblanchard | rather than sharing/reviewing | 17:39 |
| jcoufal | the same for balsamiq I would say | 17:39 |
| adi | correct. like i said, invision is fine for reviewing | 17:39 |
| jcoufal | Regarding open-source: One of the things is, that if they decide to shut down the service, we are going to lose all history | 17:39 |
| jcoufal | It is always better if we can host the tool on openstack servers | 17:40 |
| jcoufal | though as lblanchard we havn't found any suitable open-source tool yet | 17:40 |
| jackib | that is a big downside | 17:40 |
| lblanchard | krotscheck: perhaps a feature of storyboard :) :) | 17:41 |
| lblanchard | comments on images, revision history of images? | 17:41 |
| gothicmindfood | in my industry, we like to call that scope-creep lblanchard ;) | 17:41 |
| lblanchard | gothicmindfood: haha | 17:41 |
| lblanchard | gothicmindfood: yes, and wishful thinking on my part | 17:41 |
| krotscheck | lblanchard: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/85 | 17:42 |
| gothicmindfood | krotscheck did allow for asset upload in that story ^^ | 17:42 |
| jackib | but we need something. maybe a few people can do a bit of research on alternatives/pros/cons? | 17:42 |
| jcoufal | I tend to say - keep searching, we can use whatever works for everybody until we find something | 17:42 |
| jcoufal | is there anybody willing to do the research? | 17:42 |
| adi | i can | 17:43 |
| * gothicmindfood would but I'm a ux n00b | 17:43 | |
| jackib | I have little time right now. But I can contribute what I already use/know about | 17:43 |
| gothicmindfood | adi: would love to help out to help me learn more! | 17:43 |
| adi | gothic: alright | 17:43 |
| jcoufal | great! we have volunteers | 17:44 |
| lblanchard | if someone identifies some tools, I'm happy to review a few of them to help out | 17:44 |
| Toshi | Basic question, what is the requirement for that tools compared to pdf wireframe review? | 17:44 |
| jcoufal | will you guys cooperate (probably in some etherpad) and put something together? | 17:44 |
| adi | jcoufal - yes | 17:44 |
| jcoufal | Toshi: great point, we should start with listing the requirements down | 17:44 |
| gothicmindfood | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uxtools | 17:44 |
| adi | yes, requirements / parameters against which we do the research | 17:44 |
| gothicmindfood | let's do it there ^^ | 17:45 |
| jcoufal | awesome! | 17:45 |
| Toshi | Great! | 17:45 |
| jcoufal | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uxtools - UX tools research | 17:45 |
| jcoufal | #action adi, gothicmindfood to keep the ball rolling on wireframing review tool research | 17:46 |
| jcoufal | everybody else is ofcourse welcome to contribute | 17:46 |
| jcoufal | we need feedback from everybody | 17:46 |
| jcoufal | moving on | 17:47 |
| jcoufal | #topic UX in CLI and API | 17:47 |
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| jcoufal | UX is broad area | 17:47 |
| jcoufal | we are contributing the most in GUI | 17:47 |
| jcoufal | but there is need for UX also in CLI, API, DX (dev exp), etc | 17:48 |
| adi | interesting | 17:48 |
| jackib | we are so short handed already though | 17:48 |
| jcoufal | it was mentioned multiple times on both previous summit as well | 17:48 |
| jcoufal | people are asking for help there | 17:48 |
| gothicmindfood | jcoufal: which projects in particular? | 17:49 |
| lblanchard | nova is definitely interested | 17:49 |
| jcoufal | but as jackib mentioned, we don't have enough people | 17:49 |
| adi | Question: What do you mean by UX for CLI - Does it mean translating CLI requests (inputs) via UX? | 17:49 |
| jackib | there's a big need and I think it's cross project. like getting consistency | 17:49 |
| jcoufal | gothicmindfood: well if we talk about API's experience, I would say definitely all should be interested because of consistency | 17:49 |
| gothicmindfood | that makes sense | 17:50 |
| jcoufal | but lblanchard mentioned, nova is an example | 17:50 |
| jcoufal | adi: mostly consistency | 17:50 |
| lblanchard | yes, another example would be helping the OpenStackClient project… | 17:50 |
| jcoufal | at least that's the start | 17:50 |
| lblanchard | they already have HCI guidelines: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStackClient/HumanInterfaceGuidelines | 17:50 |
| lblanchard | but we could help here…as well | 17:50 |
| jcoufal | because at the moment, if you look at listing function, nova, glance and heat have different commands for it | 17:51 |
| jcoufal | if I remember correctly | 17:51 |
| lblanchard | so it's a matter of…does anyone have time? Should we try to evangelize UX in these groups somehow where we wouldn't have to focus 100% on it… | 17:51 |
| jcoufal | lblanchard: good question | 17:51 |
| jcoufal | Is there anybody interested and willing to work on APIs and/or CLIs? | 17:51 |
| jackib | we have a developer advocacy group at rackspace interested in this. maybe they can help out | 17:52 |
| lblanchard | I'm also wondering if there is a way to ask folks on each team if anyone has interest in UX | 17:52 |
| jcoufal | Or at least start with evangelization, talking about it, gathering people together with same interest | 17:52 |
| lblanchard | jcoufal: +1 | 17:52 |
| jackib | +1 | 17:53 |
| jcoufal | I can start the ball rolling by sending some mails to the mailing list and we can see if there is somebody willing to help, join | 17:53 |
| Toshi | +1 | 17:53 |
| julim | +1 | 17:53 |
| jcoufal | any other suggestions about what we can do more? | 17:53 |
| lblanchard | it would be a huge step for the component teams to know that we don't just focus on GUI/Horizon and would be happy to at least give small feedback in other areas (since we don't have enough people to have someone focus 100% on it) | 17:53 |
| jcoufal | jackib: would be great - can you talk to them if they are willing to help? | 17:53 |
| jcoufal | lblanchard: +1 | 17:54 |
| jackib | sure thing | 17:54 |
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| jcoufal | perfect | 17:55 |
| jcoufal | #topic Open Discussion | 17:55 |
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| jcoufal | any other topics to discuss in remaining 4 minutes? | 17:55 |
| jackib | jcoufal - thanks for setting this up | 17:56 |
| lblanchard | wow, great job everyone on getting through those 4 major topics in an hour! | 17:56 |
| adi | jcoufal : im good for nwo | 17:56 |
| lblanchard | jcoufal++ | 17:56 |
| jcoufal | thanks everybody for attending and your participation | 17:57 |
| jcoufal | Next meeting: Wednesday, June 18th, 1430 UTC (half an hour earlier because of conflicts), #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:57 |
| adi | thanks people. talk to you soon! | 17:58 |
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| lblanchard | catch you all 2 weeks from Wednesday! | 17:58 |
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| jcoufal | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 2 17:58:28 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ux/2014/ux.2014-06-02-17.00.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ux/2014/ux.2014-06-02-17.00.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ux/2014/ux.2014-06-02-17.00.log.html | 17:58 |
| david-lyle | Thanks jcoufal | 17:58 |
| jcoufal | Thanks all, it was great and I will talk to you in about 2 weeks | 17:58 |
| jcoufal | if we find this useful and more topics to discuss, we can make it weekly | 17:58 |
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| Toshi | Thanks guys! | 17:59 |
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| gothicmindfood | thanks! | 17:59 |
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