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| ttx | o/ | 15:02 |
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| krotscheck | #startmeeting storyboard | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 30 15:02:38 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is krotscheck. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:02 |
| NikitaKo_ | o/ | 15:02 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:02 |
| krotscheck | Good morning, everyone! | 15:02 |
| * krotscheck failed at updating the agenda in time. | 15:03 | |
| krotscheck | So in the interests of keeping things up to date, I’m going to edit it during the meeting. | 15:03 |
| krotscheck | #topic Specifications | 15:03 |
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| krotscheck | ttx, you’ve got another comment on tags, anything interesting? | 15:04 |
| ttx | I did a new version of it, just got a review asking for adependency to be added | 15:05 |
| ttx | If that's the only feedback i'll run a new version with that rolled in | 15:05 |
| ttx | krotscheck: made progress on your alternate proposal ? | 15:06 |
| krotscheck | ttx: I think that’s the only thing. I had some time to consider the alternate proposal last week, and I ran a quick performance test, and it’s pretty much the worst idea in the world. | 15:06 |
| krotscheck | So I’m going to pass on my alternate proposal. | 15:06 |
| ttx | it's technically attractive, but yeah, i can see how it can quickly get out of control | 15:06 |
| krotscheck | Yeah, a single table for all indexes is a bit harsh. | 15:07 |
| ttx | OK, then I'll push a new patchset to address Nikit'as concern | 15:07 |
| krotscheck | Alrightey. | 15:07 |
| krotscheck | NikitaKo_: Did you see my updates to the use cases in search? | 15:08 |
| NikitaKo_ | I've seen that | 15:08 |
| NikitaKo_ | The spec is more clear about browse vs search now | 15:08 |
| NikitaKo_ | and that's great | 15:08 |
| krotscheck | Yeah. Which brings us back to the question of ‘is search global or resource-specific’? | 15:08 |
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| krotscheck | Because ultimately, that UI I put together I’d like to eventually pull aside into a ‘Query builder” with which people can design their own dashboards. | 15:09 |
| krotscheck | And leave search to be true search, more freeform. | 15:09 |
| krotscheck | And that can either be global or resource specific. | 15:10 |
| NikitaKo_ | I think it's more natural when one endpoint returns one type of resource | 15:10 |
| NikitaKo_ | so I'd prefer to keep them separately | 15:11 |
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| krotscheck | NikitaKo_: I agree. ttx? | 15:11 |
| NikitaKo_ | The UI however should query all of them by default | 15:11 |
| ttx | krotscheck: +1 | 15:11 |
| krotscheck | Alright, that settles it. | 15:12 |
| ttx | I think that UI will shine in advanced searchg | 15:12 |
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| NikitaKo_ | one more question here is what are those resources? | 15:12 |
| krotscheck | To be honest, writing up the use cases for search really let me focus in on what the UI should be doing. | 15:12 |
| NikitaKo_ | Now we have stories tasks and users | 15:12 |
| krotscheck | NikitaKo_: And projects? | 15:12 |
| NikitaKo_ | yep and projects | 15:12 |
| NikitaKo_ | do we need search for events or comments? | 15:13 |
| krotscheck | Right. So that’s an interesting question. Let’s say we search for something which is semantically a subresource: Example, comments on a story. Should we be searching stories? Or should we be searching on comments? | 15:13 |
| krotscheck | Actually, better question: What should the API do vs. what should the client do? | 15:14 |
| mordred | o/ | 15:14 |
| ttx | krotscheck: I'd say if you search stories, you'd query subresources | 15:15 |
| krotscheck | I feel that the API contract should be consistent across all primary resources. It’s subresources I’m not certain of. | 15:15 |
| mordred | krotscheck: hrm. excellent question - my old zope background would say "comments are owned by stories, so you should search stories" | 15:15 |
| ttx | but if you eoecifically search comments, you should not search stories as well ? | 15:15 |
| ttx | specifically* | 15:15 |
| mordred | krotscheck: but my non-zope present says "that means I have to know too much about the data model to use the API" | 15:16 |
| * ttx needs a new keyboard | 15:16 | |
| * jeblair boxes up a model-m for ttx | 15:16 | |
| krotscheck | …oh man, those things are indestructible. | 15:17 |
| krotscheck | Ok, so any disagreement with all primary resources having the same API contract (barring differences in filter fields)? | 15:17 |
| ttx | jeblair: i could certainly use one :) | 15:18 |
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| ttx | krotscheck: no | 15:18 |
| krotscheck | I feel that the use case here would be: “I am searching for a thing, and that thing may be in a comment somewhere”. From a UI perspective I’m going to take the user straight to the story on which that comment is, preferably with an autoscroll to that same comment. | 15:19 |
| ttx | krotscheck: +1 | 15:19 |
| NikitaKo_ | krotscheck: +! | 15:19 |
| mordred | ++ | 15:19 |
| krotscheck | Righto. | 15:20 |
| krotscheck | So given that from a UI perspective, I don’t know what story I’m searching on when I issue the search, I need either one of two things: | 15:21 |
| krotscheck | 1- comments as a primary resource that I can search on, and extract the story ID from the comment | 15:21 |
| krotscheck | 2- Story search index includes comments. | 15:21 |
| krotscheck | But even then.... | 15:21 |
| krotscheck | How important is it to indicate that a search hit was on a comment rather than on a story? | 15:21 |
| krotscheck | Consider the UI: “Hey we found our search on a comment” | 15:22 |
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| krotscheck | Also there’s the whole “What’s easy to do right now”, because comments might end up on more than one resource type. | 15:23 |
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| ttx | krotscheck: I think it's hinier if you autoscroll, but it's also OK if you don't | 15:23 |
| NikitaKo_ | My vote is for 1 here | 15:23 |
| ttx | shinier | 15:23 |
| mordred | I think ultimately 1 sounds richer - because as you said, there may be more things that have comments | 15:24 |
| NikitaKo_ | the comments endpoint is pretty similar to any other, and since there is going to be a SqlAlchemy implementation it should be pretty easy | 15:24 |
| krotscheck | I have no disagreements with 1. | 15:25 |
| krotscheck | Yeah, actually, the more I think about it the more I prefer it. | 15:25 |
| krotscheck | So, it sounds like search is a feature of all primary resources, and ‘subresource’ implementations end up more as convenience filters? | 15:26 |
| krotscheck | (which makes everything a primary resource) | 15:26 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: i think the presentation of the results can help with that | 15:27 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: before displaying the story and autoscrolling to the comment | 15:27 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: you're probably going to display a list of results, and in that, i'm bettinng you can make it clear the hit was on a story or comment or ... | 15:27 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: (i'm slightly laggy and responding to several minutes old text) | 15:28 |
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| krotscheck | I think everyone should go look at the new search/browse UI :) | 15:28 |
| krotscheck | This one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99975/ | 15:28 |
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| ttx | krotscheck: ok, added to todo | 15:29 |
| NikitaKo_ | krotscheck: I've already did, and it looks great | 15:29 |
| krotscheck | NikitaKo_: Yeah, and after the discussion this morning I’m way happier with having comments. | 15:30 |
| krotscheck | (Fair warning for everyone, I’ve since built on that UI to add things like auto-tab-focus) | 15:30 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: No worries. Honestly, we’ll test the autoscroll and see how people respond before approving that. | 15:31 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Autoscroll to me is one of those ‘It could be awesomely bad if built incorrectly’ features. | 15:31 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: The new search UI actually clearly separates the resources on which you got a hit. | 15:31 |
| krotscheck | Anyway: Any more comments on search? I think we know where we’re going at the moment. | 15:32 |
| krotscheck | NikitaKo_: Do you still want me to add comments as a blank resource, given that the UI won’t ever show that section if the results are hardcoded to []? | 15:33 |
| NikitaKo_ | krotscheck: I guess no | 15:33 |
| jeblair | that's a very big change | 15:33 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: Believe me, I tried to break it up. | 15:33 |
| NikitaKo_ | the browse.js means it does browsing through resources, we will need something like search.js to handle them | 15:34 |
| NikitaKo_ | and actually to query search endpoints when they are ready | 15:34 |
| NikitaKo_ | The WIP change is here btw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101476/ | 15:35 |
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| krotscheck | Ok.... | 15:37 |
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| krotscheck | Oh good, he’s back | 15:37 |
| NikitaKo_ | something strange is going on with my irc client | 15:37 |
| krotscheck | It’s probably MI-6 | 15:38 |
| krotscheck | Any more comments on specifications? | 15:38 |
| krotscheck | Else we can move on to ongoing work. | 15:38 |
| NikitaKo_ | There is a new one | 15:38 |
| NikitaKo_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103106/ | 15:39 |
| * krotscheck makes a note to look at that. | 15:39 | |
| NikitaKo_ | This is for teams API | 15:39 |
| NikitaKo_ | The main idea there is that user teams could be synced from Gerrit | 15:39 |
| krotscheck | Hrm... | 15:40 |
| krotscheck | Does this include some of the original permissions spec? | 15:40 |
| NikitaKo_ | krotscheck: are you referring to the etherpad with permissions? | 15:41 |
| krotscheck | Yeah | 15:41 |
| NikitaKo_ | It does not right now, but it's a good idea to add that stuuff | 15:42 |
| jeblair | we used to sync launchpad and gerrit teams, and then we stopped | 15:43 |
| NikitaKo_ | jeblair: why? | 15:43 |
| jeblair | it was extremely difficult to do correctly | 15:43 |
| jeblair | and as it turns out we needed different teams in the different tools | 15:43 |
| jeblair | the closest thing to an overlap where the tools might use the same teams are using gerrit core reviewers when dealing with security bugs | 15:45 |
| jeblair | ttx: what's the current thinking on that? ^ | 15:45 |
| jeblair | (but in generaly, bug triagers are not necessarily core reviewers, and vice-versa) | 15:45 |
| NikitaKo_ | is there any other source to get core members except Gerrit group? | 15:46 |
| ttx | jeblair: the only thing we use launchpad groups for is now for subscription to private bugs and permissions granting | 15:46 |
| jeblair | and drivers (people who can set milestone targets on bugs or blueprints [stories]) don't have much to do in gerrit | 15:46 |
| * krotscheck makes a note to transfer permissions specification to infra-specs | 15:46 | |
| ttx | and those are largely disjoint from gerrit groups | 15:46 |
| ttx | so the pain of syncing was no longer worth the benefit | 15:46 |
| ttx | err... the other way around | 15:47 |
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| jeblair | my inclination would be that we should make sure that we have a good api so that people (maybe us in the future, even) can sync mebership automatically with external tools... | 15:47 |
| jeblair | but not to depend on them directly, and not expect us to do any automated syncing in the near future | 15:47 |
| NikitaKo_ | then we need to decide which kind of groups StoryBoard should have | 15:48 |
| NikitaKo_ | more Gerrit-like, or Launchpad-like | 15:48 |
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| krotscheck | So, what is a group? | 15:48 |
| NikitaKo_ | A group of users with a set of permissions | 15:49 |
| ttx | krotscheck: I'd say, an entity permissions can be granted to | 15:49 |
| ttx | AND a set of people you'd like to add to a private bug ACL | 15:49 |
| ttx | but that's not the immediate use case | 15:49 |
| NikitaKo_ | possibly assign a task to a group? | 15:50 |
| ttx | and that can be considered a "permission" too | 15:50 |
| ttx | NikitaKo_: I'm not sure we want to encourage that | 15:50 |
| ttx | NikitaKo_: but yes, that was possible in LP | 15:50 |
| krotscheck | Sounds like we need to do some requirements gathering on this. Can I ask everyone to write up their concept of what a “team” and/or “group” is and send it to NikitaKo_ ? | 15:50 |
| ttx | I can take that | 15:50 |
| krotscheck | Alright | 15:50 |
| krotscheck | Send it to ttx then :) | 15:51 |
| ttx | unless you need it for tomorrow | 15:51 |
| krotscheck | I dunno, NikitaKo_: When do you need it by? | 15:51 |
| ttx | TC handling bogged me down last week | 15:51 |
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| NikitaKo_ | By the moment we start protected tags or something like that | 15:51 |
| ttx | NikitaKo_: ok | 15:52 |
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| ttx | should that be a specs, or more a wiki page ? | 15:52 |
| krotscheck | ttx: Eeehhh,… I’m leaning more wiki right now? Spec is more detailed and implementation specific. | 15:53 |
| ttx | krotscheck: ++ | 15:53 |
| krotscheck | I want the eventual output to be sortof like the use case section I added to NikitaKo_ ’s search spec. | 15:53 |
| ttx | let's call it a brainstorming wikipage | 15:53 |
| krotscheck | Awesome. | 15:53 |
| krotscheck | Any other specs thoughts? | 15:54 |
| krotscheck | #topic Ongoing work! | 15:55 |
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| krotscheck | Everyone gets a minute! | 15:55 |
| krotscheck | Reverse alphabetical order! | 15:55 |
| ttx | hmm, that may mean me | 15:55 |
| krotscheck | Yolanda got her momentjs things merged, awesome! | 15:55 |
| krotscheck | ttx is next! | 15:55 |
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| * ttx managed to do some reviews, and pushed a new version of the Tag spec, but that's about it | 15:56 | |
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| ttx | blame Defcore | 15:56 |
| ttx | next | 15:56 |
| NikitaKo_ | I've started that Teams spec | 15:56 |
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| NikitaKo_ | And there is a change setting up oslo.messaging for notifications | 15:57 |
| NikitaKo_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102842/ | 15:57 |
| krotscheck | Awesome. | 15:57 |
| NikitaKo_ | It is based on TimeLine events we already have | 15:57 |
| NikitaKo_ | Work on my local rabbit pretty nicely | 15:57 |
| krotscheck | Noce. | 15:57 |
| krotscheck | Nice | 15:57 |
| krotscheck | Nice nice | 15:58 |
| NikitaKo_ | So that's all from me | 15:58 |
| krotscheck | I wrote out use cases for search, which I then promptly incorporated into my UI work. Did an ad-hoc UX test with a random person I met at a coffeeshop which also helped me refine the UI on the search page. | 15:58 |
| krotscheck | Also a bit of work on the storyboard puppet module after a bunch of good comments from reviewers. | 15:59 |
| * krotscheck is trying to get rabbit onto storyboard.openstack.org | 15:59 | |
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| krotscheck | MaxV disconnected right when we were about to get to him. | 15:59 |
| krotscheck | Aishwarya is stuck in HP background checks, but I’m meeting up with her in an hour. | 16:00 |
| krotscheck | And that’s it! | 16:00 |
| ttx | yay | 16:00 |
| krotscheck | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 30 16:00:30 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-06-30-15.02.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-06-30-15.02.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-06-30-15.02.log.html | 16:00 |
| NikitaKo_ | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
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| davidlenwell | #startmeeting refstack | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 30 22:00:33 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is davidlenwell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 22:00 |
| davidlenwell | roll call? | 22:02 |
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| fcarpent_ | o/ | 22:03 |
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| davidlenwell | First week of new meeting time .. we'll give everyone a few minutes before giving up on them all | 22:04 |
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| zehicle | o/ | 22:07 |
| davidlenwell | lets wait a few more minutes to see if catherine/rocky show | 22:07 |
| zehicle | and there was a request to move the meeting back to 10 am already (keep on Monday | 22:07 |
| davidlenwell | by whome? | 22:08 |
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| zehicle | the Mirantis contractors | 22:08 |
| zehicle | this time is super bad for them | 22:08 |
| davidlenwell | I feel like we are playing musical meetings | 22:08 |
| zehicle | my mistake for miscaculating | 22:08 |
| zehicle | yy | 22:08 |
| zehicle | I can proxy for them | 22:09 |
| davidlenwell | nobody is showing up for this meeting anyways.. I feel like if we change it again we'll have low attendance again | 22:09 |
| davidlenwell | but I'm open to discussing it | 22:09 |
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| zehicle | agree | 22:10 |
| davidlenwell | alright im going to start.. | 22:10 |
| zehicle | this time is ok but not great for me | 22:10 |
| zehicle | +1 | 22:10 |
| zehicle | let;s roll | 22:10 |
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| davidlenwell | agenda: api status, schema migration, sqlite, graphs for defcore, dell contractors | 22:12 |
| zehicle | +1 | 22:12 |
| davidlenwell | + meeting time | 22:12 |
| davidlenwell | #topic api status | 22:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "api status (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 22:12 | |
| davidlenwell | I'm very close to commiting a patch that will give us full api functionlity that meets the v1 api spec. | 22:13 |
| zehicle | :) | 22:13 |
| zehicle | the Mirantis guys say that they are looking at unit tests for it | 22:13 |
| zehicle | I'll check w/ them tomorrow | 22:13 |
| davidlenwell | I am still missing unit tests.. | 22:13 |
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| davidlenwell | I'd preffer to just write the api unit tests myself and leave the schema and migration unit tests to the contractors .. but we'll get back to that in a bit when theya re the topic | 22:16 |
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| zehicle | ok, that would be better | 22:16 |
| zehicle | agree | 22:16 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. so we're on the same page here.. next topic | 22:17 |
| davidlenwell | #topic schema change | 22:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "schema change (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 22:17 | |
| davidlenwell | with the exception of zehicle's -1 because of "the allowable types should be documented with a safe default given (0=unknown). Also, there should be a field test to limit the values to the know values." | 22:18 |
| zehicle | kk | 22:18 |
| davidlenwell | I think its in good shape to merge once the api stuff is finished.. I was hoping catherine would be around to give an opinion on that but she seems to be having connectivity issues. | 22:18 |
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| zehicle | +1 agree | 22:18 |
| davidlenwell | (these meetings go a lot faster when nobody shows up ;) ) | 22:19 |
| davidlenwell | #topic sqlite | 22:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "sqlite (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 22:19 | |
| davidlenwell | sqlite migration has been a bit painful... alembic doesn't deal well with its special edge cases. And I hate that someone on our team would need to write a bunch of extra code to make sqlite happy everytime we want to change the name of a feild. | 22:20 |
| davidlenwell | I would like to continue to have an open discussion about why / if we should continue to support it at all. | 22:20 |
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| zehicle | I'm ok to NOT have sqlite | 22:21 |
| davidlenwell | so far my pros are; easier to get a dev env going... | 22:21 |
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| davidlenwell | cons are: poor sql support, poor alembic support .. pain in the ass migrations | 22:21 |
| davidlenwell | so you can see which way I am leaning | 22:21 |
| davidlenwell | I can table this till next week when more folks show up at the meeting and can offer an opinion.. | 22:22 |
| davidlenwell | fcarpent_: Do you have any opinions on removing sqlite support? | 22:22 |
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| fcarpent_ | not without better understanding the alternatives | 22:22 |
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| davidlenwell | fcarpenter: the alt is to only support mysql / postgres | 22:23 |
| davidlenwell | because they can migrate cleaner | 22:23 |
| fcarpenter | at first blush it doesn't sound like a "need to have" for v1 | 22:23 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. well lets agree to pick up this discussion in another week. | 22:23 |
| davidlenwell | #agree we'll pick up the sqlite discussion in a week. | 22:23 |
| davidlenwell | #topic graphs for defcore | 22:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "graphs for defcore (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 22:24 | |
| davidlenwell | So last week joshua and I did some brain storming. | 22:24 |
| zehicle | graphs = the screen casts | 22:24 |
| davidlenwell | We'd like to go a slightly diff direction on the graphs and reporting for defcore than the current proposed spec describes | 22:24 |
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| zehicle | ok, happy to see alternatives | 22:25 |
| davidlenwell | I am going to sit down with joshua in the next couple of days to submit a review on an updated spec clearly describing the idea.. this way you can all have input | 22:25 |
| davidlenwell | he's also volunteered to do the coding becuase he's excited about this type of graphing tool. | 22:25 |
| zehicle | ok | 22:26 |
| davidlenwell | I'd like more code out of him if we can get it | 22:26 |
| catherine_d | HidHi | 22:26 |
| zehicle | that's fine w/ me | 22:27 |
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| davidlenwell | cool .. spec to follow | 22:27 |
| zehicle | just send me a picture of what he's thinking | 22:27 |
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| davidlenwell | zehicle: I want a spec because the visualizations them selves are a lot more flexible than the underlying data it self.. | 22:27 |
| zehicle | sure | 22:27 |
| davidlenwell | So the spec will describe clearly how we are going to store stuff.. which we are currently missing | 22:28 |
| zehicle | the data is the harder thing to get | 22:28 |
| davidlenwell | its a giant hole in our architecture | 22:28 |
| zehicle | we'll learn what we want to show as we have data | 22:28 |
| davidlenwell | open .. moving right along .. | 22:28 |
| zehicle | I owe everyone the spec on the JSON & flows | 22:28 |
| zehicle | I've got drafts of them, just need to write the spec | 22:28 |
| zehicle | the flow is being reviewed by defcore | 22:28 |
| davidlenwell | very good | 22:28 |
| davidlenwell | when is the next defcore meeting ? | 22:29 |
| zehicle | not scheduled | 22:29 |
| zehicle | there are community ones 7/9 | 22:29 |
| zehicle | and a TC interlock tomorrow | 22:29 |
| zehicle | 1pm PT | 22:29 |
| davidlenwell | good to know | 22:29 |
| zehicle | I suggest bringing some popcorn to watch the fireworks | 22:29 |
| davidlenwell | good advice | 22:30 |
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| davidlenwell | #topic dell contractors | 22:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "dell contractors (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 22:30 | |
| zehicle | I'm making sure my asbestos suit is back from the cleaners | 22:30 |
| zehicle | +1 Dell Contractors | 22:30 |
| davidlenwell | I know we need to do some work to plan things so that we can keep the contractors busy while they are engadged | 22:30 |
| zehicle | they were able to get Refstack working and explored the code | 22:31 |
| davidlenwell | we can start with having them tackle our test coverage | 22:31 |
| zehicle | they are making plans about how to improve coverage | 22:31 |
| davidlenwell | while they do that I'll review all the open stories | 22:31 |
| zehicle | I asked them to focus on API & upload | 22:31 |
| davidlenwell | hmm .. well since I am doing that you can refocus them | 22:31 |
| zehicle | would be helpful if we had stories that I can point them to | 22:31 |
| zehicle | +1 | 22:31 |
| davidlenwell | we have a ton of open stories | 22:31 |
| davidlenwell | need to be tretriaged | 22:32 |
| zehicle | I meet w/ the contractors tomorrow early | 22:33 |
| davidlenwell | I'll make that a priority in the next couple of days | 22:33 |
| zehicle | any direction is helpful | 22:33 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle: define early | 22:33 |
| zehicle | 7am central | 22:33 |
| davidlenwell | wow thats early | 22:33 |
| davidlenwell | I might still be awake then | 22:33 |
| zehicle | last week it was 5:30 | 22:33 |
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| zehicle | but that was just because I was at the airport anyway | 22:33 |
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| davidlenwell | Do you want me to try to make an apearance for that meeting? | 22:34 |
| davidlenwell | managing developers by proxy is hard | 22:34 |
| davidlenwell | I'd like to get an idea of strengths and stuff | 22:34 |
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| zehicle | I have their backgrounds - I'll forward 1x1 | 22:34 |
| davidlenwell | sounds good | 22:35 |
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| tedchang | Hi This is Catherine using Ted's machine ... Having problem with my IRC | 22:35 |
| zehicle | that's why I was suggesting moving the meeting time back to 10 am | 22:35 |
| zehicle | so you'd have direct contact | 22:35 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle: alright .. that seems to be the next topic anyway | 22:35 |
| zehicle | my goal is to have them operate in community, not act as puppets for me | 22:35 |
| davidlenwell | #topic meeting time | 22:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "meeting time (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 22:35 | |
| davidlenwell | zehicle has asked that we move the meeting to monday at 10am pdt .. any objections? | 22:36 |
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| zehicle | my apologies > I mis-spoke about the time zone needs for our EU people | 22:36 |
| zehicle | this time is 2 am for them | 22:36 |
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| tedchang | 10 am on Monday works for me | 22:36 |
| zehicle | entirely my fault when we were discussing before | 22:37 |
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| * davidlenwell thanks zehicle for granade jumping | 22:37 | |
| fcarpenter | 10am is fine for me | 22:37 |
| zehicle | better for me than 5 central | 22:37 |
| davidlenwell | okay lets do 10am on mondays.. I'll update things again in the wiki | 22:37 |
| zehicle | thanks | 22:37 |
| zehicle | I'll let them know tomorrow AM | 22:38 |
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| davidlenwell | #agree meeting to change to 10am pdt mondays | 22:38 |
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| davidlenwell | #agreed meeting to change to 10am pdt mondays | 22:38 |
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| davidlenwell | #topic mid cycle meeting in Darmstadt germany | 22:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "mid cycle meeting in Darmstadt germany (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 22:39 | |
| davidlenwell | I will be attending the q/a, infra mid-cycle thing in germany in two weeks.. I will most likely still be available for the monday meetings .. but if I am absent zehicle will moderate the meetings in my place | 22:40 |
| zehicle | +1 can do | 22:40 |
| zehicle | I will have a conflict on the OSCON week | 22:40 |
| davidlenwell | I'll be back for that | 22:41 |
| davidlenwell | #topic open discussion | 22:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 22:41 | |
| davidlenwell | zehicle: are you going to oscon? | 22:41 |
| zehicle | yy | 22:41 |
| zehicle | boardmeeting and presenting DefCore at the cloud day | 22:41 |
| davidlenwell | happy birthday openstack | 22:41 |
| catherine_d | Could we talk about coding work ... | 22:41 |
| davidlenwell | catherine_d: you missed half the meeting .. we talked about a lot of stuff.. | 22:42 |
| davidlenwell | we have 18 minutes for open discussion now.. we can talk about whatever you like. | 22:42 |
| catherine_d | we need the code for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98914/ | 22:42 |
| davidlenwell | yes we do | 22:42 |
| catherine_d | to get us going with local refstack for Icehouse | 22:42 |
| davidlenwell | yes .. | 22:43 |
| davidlenwell | So is that code you want to tackle catherine_d? | 22:43 |
| davidlenwell | I know we talked about that before | 22:44 |
| catherine_d | yes we can | 22:44 |
| davidlenwell | I'm good with that | 22:44 |
| davidlenwell | catherine_d: I am not sure if we put the work items from that spec into story board yet.. I'll make sure they are in storyboard today | 22:44 |
| davidlenwell | and as you make commits could you keep story board up to date ..that way I know the status of things | 22:45 |
| catherine_d | great.. also once we have that code ... we will need some update the web.py ... do you want us to update the old code or should we only use the new V1 API? | 22:45 |
| davidlenwell | catherine_d: that is going to require some discussion | 22:45 |
| davidlenwell | we also have an issue with two different testers | 22:46 |
| davidlenwell | catherine_d: Do you have time next week for a face to face? | 22:46 |
| catherine_d | yes we do ... | 22:46 |
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| davidlenwell | it might be more productive to lock our selves in a room and work out how we are going to do this stuff | 22:47 |
| davidlenwell | with whiteboards | 22:47 |
| catherine_d | how about you pick one tester then we can use that tester and identify what else needed | 22:47 |
| davidlenwell | the newer tester is prefered | 22:47 |
| catherine_d | agree .. | 22:47 |
| davidlenwell | but it kinda breaks the way you were driving tests/config from the web ui | 22:47 |
| catherine_d | should we have a face-2-face ... I really want to get refstack local to work with Icehouse | 22:48 |
| davidlenwell | I'm free next monday,tuesday,wednesday | 22:48 |
| catherine_d | Let's be it ... refstack is not worlking with Icehoiuse any way .. and I am not sure we want to do much work on Havana | 22:48 |
| davidlenwell | we don't | 22:49 |
| davidlenwell | So lets talk offline about when we can have facetime | 22:49 |
| catherine_d | great let's do that ... | 22:49 |
| davidlenwell | does anyone have anything else to discuss? | 22:49 |
| catherine_d | About pushing data .. | 22:50 |
| catherine_d | right now we have an API to push with keystone UUID ... | 22:51 |
| catherine_d | how about API with tester ID... we we plan to use the same API or update the current API? | 22:51 |
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| davidlenwell | same function for both | 22:52 |
| davidlenwell | its all detailed int he spec | 22:52 |
| davidlenwell | I'm also almost finished with the working api code.. trying to get it in today.. just working out a bug in the validation | 22:52 |
| catherine_d | I did not see the test id option in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99752/ | 22:53 |
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| davidlenwell | its called job_id | 22:55 |
| catherine_d | ic | 22:55 |
| davidlenwell | {119 | 22:55 |
| davidlenwell | 'cpid': '2fd4e1c67a2d28fced849ee1bb76e7391b93eb12',120 | 22:55 |
| davidlenwell | 'duration_seconds': 23445234,121 | 22:55 |
| davidlenwell | 'job_id': '3fd4e1c67a2d28fced849ee1bb76e7391b93eb13', /*optional*/122 | 22:55 |
| davidlenwell | 'results': {} /* to be defined */123 | 22:55 |
| davidlenwell | } | 22:55 |
| catherine_d | great | 22:55 |
| davidlenwell | So a few things have been renamed .. but that functionality was preserved | 22:56 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. so thats all the time we have for today boys and girls.. until next week | 22:56 |
| davidlenwell | #endmeeting | 22:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 30 22:57:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-06-30-22.00.html | 22:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-06-30-22.00.txt | 22:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-06-30-22.00.log.html | 22:57 |
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