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carl_baldwinhi all15:00
yamamotohi15:00
carl_baldwinSwami safchain seizadi jvoss pcm_ nextone92 devvesa: ping15:01
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devvesahi15:01
safchainhi15:01
pcm_hi15:01
mrsmithhello15:02
carl_baldwinmrsmith: armax: vivek: ping (I don’t remember vivek’s nick)15:02
carl_baldwin#startmeeting neutron_l315:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul  3 15:02:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'15:02
carl_baldwin#topic Announcements15:02
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carl_baldwinThe mid-cycle sprint is next week.  I will probably not run this meeting but should be very active on IRC.15:02
carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam15:03
carl_baldwinJuno-2 is just about 3 weeks away.15:03
carl_baldwinDid everyone see the post about the bp submission deadline?15:03
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devvesai did15:04
carl_baldwin#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039138.html15:04
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carl_baldwinI’ll turn some extra attention toward the BGP and IPAM blueprints today.15:04
carl_baldwinThe BPG blueprint is doing pretty well I think.  At least I understand what will be done I think.15:05
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devvesathanks!15:05
carl_baldwinThe IPAM bp may need a little more fleshing out with detail from my perspective.15:05
seizadiI got some comments last night and I will update today.15:06
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carl_baldwinIt has already been proposed, so it has until the 20th to get in to shape.15:06
carl_baldwinseizadi: great.  ping me when you update and I’ll read it more thoroughly today.15:06
carl_baldwinviveknarasimhan: hi15:06
carl_baldwinyisun: hi15:06
viveknarasimhanhi carl15:06
carl_baldwin#topic neutron-ovs-dvr15:07
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carl_baldwinGreat progress here so far this week.15:07
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carl_baldwinI have had some success with my own two-node devstack deployment.  I did a handful of hand fixes but then I was able to get a pingable floating ip.15:08
carl_baldwinI’m very pleased to bring something that I have been able to get to work to the mid-cycle meeting.15:08
carl_baldwinviveknarasimhan: armax: mrsmith: any progress updates?15:09
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viveknarasimhancarl15:09
viveknarasimhani responded to few review comments15:09
viveknarasimhanrest of time i spent on getting dvr work over OOO15:10
carl_baldwinGreat, I haven’t had a chance to look this morning.15:10
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mrsmithI've replied to comments as well15:10
mrsmithworked with armax on simplifying the agent cfg15:10
mrsmithgetting the 3 cfg options down to one "mode" option with three modes15:10
mrsmithseems like a good change - to simplify15:11
carl_baldwinYes, armax mentioned that.  I think it will be an intuitive improvement.15:11
mrsmithI plan to push updates to l3-scheduler and l3-agent for the same15:11
mrsmithtoday that is15:11
viveknarasimhanalso request specific trigger tha tled to the attribute exception on update_port_postcommit15:11
mrsmithcarl_baldwin: was there an open question on port host binding ?15:12
carl_baldwinGreat!  We’ll need to coordinate a change to the howto wiki but I can probably do that when I push the update to my github branche.15:12
carl_baldwin*branch15:12
carl_baldwinmrsmith: You mean the schema problem?15:12
yamamotodo you have a plan to update l2 doc etc?15:12
mrsmithcarl_baldwin: yes15:12
carl_baldwinyamahata: to which l2 doc are you referring?15:13
carl_baldwinviveknarasimhan: I think I put all that I know about the exception in the comments.  We can talk after if you need.15:13
yamamotohttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1depasJSnGZPOnRLxEC_PYsVLcGVFXZLqP52RFTe21BE/edit?pli=1#heading=h.5w7clq272tji15:13
viveknarasimhanyes yamamoto15:13
viveknarasimhani could not update that due to permission issue15:13
viveknarasimhani will put an errata document and attach it to blueprint and ping you15:13
viveknarasimhani will update with new rules that we did for good performace improvement on the data path15:14
yamamotocan't you just copy and update?15:14
viveknarasimhanthat is what i did15:14
viveknarasimhancopied it , updating the rules15:14
viveknarasimhani will post you by tomorrow15:14
yamamotothank you15:14
carl_baldwinviveknarasimhan: Is it appropriate to update the spec in neutron-specs?  I would prefer the updates go there if possible.15:15
viveknarasimhanok i will update it in neutron-specs15:15
yamamotoi prefer to put the updated doc near the code15:16
viveknarasimhanbut first i put modified word doc for yamamoto15:16
yamamotoeg. comment in code or README or something like that15:16
carl_baldwinIt will have to go through review but that should be much easier than the initial merge of the spec.15:16
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carl_baldwinyamamoto: that may also be appropriate.  I’ll let you guys decide.15:17
yamamotoneutron-specs is fine for me.  we can copy it into README etc later15:17
carl_baldwinmrsmith: I am thinking of implementing the conversion from legacy router to distributed as a follow-on patch.  Do you have any objection.15:17
carl_baldwin?15:17
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mrsmithsounds good... thats what we were planning... follow on dev15:18
carl_baldwinI was thinking I could have some time for it at the mid-cycle sprint next week.15:18
viveknarasimhanmike as per our earlier discussion , are we allowing conversion both ways (legacy to dist and vice-versa) , or is it just one-way path for simplicity?15:18
carl_baldwinmrsmith: Okay, I will plan to implement it.15:18
mrsmitheventually we want to support both ways15:19
carl_baldwinviveknarasimhan: I’m planning on doing only the one way initially.15:19
mrsmith+115:19
carl_baldwinBut, will look at supporting the other way at a later time.15:19
mrsmithpiece by piece... ;)15:19
viveknarasimhanok15:19
mrsmithcarl_baldwin: do you think it will affect more than l3-agent?15:19
carl_baldwinYes, I do but I haven’t scoped out the whole thing yet.15:20
mrsmithas in, l3-plugin and l3-sched may have impact?15:20
mrsmithok15:20
mrsmithI assume it would affect those modules as well15:20
carl_baldwinYes.  The scheduler and plugin will most likely need some work.15:20
viveknarasimhanl3-plugin, cli, l3-sched, l3-agent all of them have impact15:20
mrsmith:)15:20
yamamotoare you talking about live-conversion?15:20
viveknarasimhanl2-agent may operate as is15:20
carl_baldwinThe cli is minimal.  Actually, the cli pretty much works already.15:20
carl_baldwinyamamoto: Yes.  Though there may be a hiccup in the routing.15:21
viveknarasimhanyes, conversion when router is running, packets may drop minimally15:21
carl_baldwinviveknarasimhan: Yes, it should be minimal.15:21
carl_baldwinAnything else for DVR?15:22
carl_baldwin#topic l3-high-availability15:23
mrsmithno...15:23
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viveknarasimhannope..15:23
carl_baldwinsafchain: I was going to add this back to the agenda since armax has taken an interest in driving it to completion.  But, I don’t see armax around.15:23
safchainYes we plan to work on it with him and maybe Amuller15:24
carl_baldwinI have an interest as well because I think it is long overdue.  I’ll be a second core reviewer on it.15:24
safchainI hope I will be able to get more bandwidth to work on it15:24
safchainok great15:24
yamamotoi have some interest because ryu has vrrp impl.15:25
carl_baldwinGreat to see some interest and I hope to see it get through soon after DVR merges.15:25
carl_baldwinyamamoto: great.  The bp needs to merge first.  Let’s get that in by the 20th deadline.15:25
carl_baldwinAnything else?15:26
yamamotonothing from me15:26
safchainyamahata, so the bp was about using keepalived as a first impl but open to another one/driver15:26
safchainok for me15:26
yamamotosafchain: yes i know15:26
safchainyamahata, I have to sync with you to understand the ryu impl15:27
carl_baldwincool, let’s have discussion on the bp review.  armax and I will divert attention to that to get it merged.15:27
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carl_baldwin#topic pluggable-ext-net15:27
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carl_baldwinNothing much to say here except that I will be starting this work on top of the DVR code.  Need the bp to merge by the 20th as well.15:28
carl_baldwin#topic l3-svcs-vendor-*15:29
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carl_baldwinpcm_: hi15:29
viveknarasimhancarl15:29
viveknarasimhanone more thing related to DVR15:29
carl_baldwinviveknarasimhan: sure.15:30
viveknarasimhanwill speak about it at end of session so not to interrupt current topic15:30
carl_baldwinpcm_: Anything new here?  Looks like you’re still working through an oslo issue?15:30
pcm_hi. Yes need review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102351/15:30
pcm_Waiting for oslo new release to be avail.15:31
pcm_but have tested locally with new oslo version.15:31
carl_baldwinpcm_: Right, I actually have some draft comments I never finished.15:31
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pcm_thanks!15:31
carl_baldwin#action carl_baldwin will review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102351/.15:31
carl_baldwinNeed anything on the oslo issue?15:31
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carl_baldwinpcm_: ^15:32
pcm_not sure. Wondering what they (infra) need to do to make the prerelease available.15:32
carl_baldwinHas the bug been fixed in the code?  Just needs release?15:33
carl_baldwinI see.15:33
carl_baldwinIt may just be a matter of time to release and then update Neutron requirements.15:34
pcm_yes15:34
carl_baldwinHave you validated the fix locally using the new release?15:34
carl_baldwinpcm_: ^15:35
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pcm_yes (sorry in two meetings)15:35
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yamamoto<- wondering what "^" means15:36
carl_baldwinyamamoto: It is pointing to the previous message.  I do that when I realize that I forgot to include his nick to grab his attention.15:36
yamamotoah i see.  it's an arrow.  thanks15:37
carl_baldwin#topic neutron-ovs-dvr15:37
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carl_baldwinviveknarasimhan: You had one more thing?15:37
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viveknarasimhanyeah carl15:38
viveknarasimhanthere is a racing issue between l2-pop tunnel-bridge access and DVR tunnel-bridge access15:38
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viveknarasimhanthere was a review posted to address this concurrency issue15:38
carl_baldwinDo you have a link?15:38
viveknarasimhanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/77578/15:39
viveknarasimhanthis changeset needs to be honed back for DVR15:39
viveknarasimhanas bulk rules addition for l2-pop doesn't work well with bulk rules addition by DVR at the same time on the tun-br15:39
yamamotomodfying flows in rpc handlers is prone to race15:39
viveknarasimhanwell, existing l2-pop logic does it that way15:40
carl_baldwinviveknarasimhan: “honed back?”15:40
viveknarasimhanwe need to pick up that review and drive it to completion ('honed back' )15:40
yamamotoviveknarasimhan: yes i know.  modular l2 agent folks are talking about having a dedicated thread15:40
viveknarasimhanthat would be best15:41
viveknarasimhanright now it is a subprocess, but feedign data to that subprocess is not guaranteed15:41
viveknarasimhansome flows lost, when both write to tun-br15:41
yamamotohaving a lock can be a short term fix?15:42
carl_baldwinI’ll make a note of this in the subteam page and I’ll work it in to my github branch as well.15:42
carl_baldwinviveknarasimhan: Thanks for bringing this to our attention.  We can discuss the details in the review.15:42
viveknarasimhani can help work with you after internal commits get over15:42
carl_baldwin#action carl_baldwin will work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77578/ in to the current DVR work.15:42
carl_baldwinviveknarasimhan: Great.15:43
carl_baldwinAnything else?15:43
viveknarasimhanthanks carl. that is it.15:43
carl_baldwin#topic bgp-dynamic-routing15:43
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carl_baldwindevvesa: hi15:43
devvesahi15:43
carl_baldwinI’ll take one more look at PS9 but I think I’m close to +2.  We’ll need to find another core to give it a fresh set of eyes.15:44
devvesai'll ping Nachi again15:45
yamamotoany update on poc code?15:45
carl_baldwindevvesa: Yes, Nachi.15:45
devvesayamamoto: not this week15:45
devvesayamamoto: i've seen the new Ryu release, I'll give a try next week15:45
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yamamotowe (ryu team) plan to work on filtering support.15:46
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yamamotodo you have an idea when you will need the functionality?15:47
devvesawith the next-hop and password features i can be busy for a while with the development15:47
carl_baldwindevvesa: How do you feel about hitting juno-3 with a complete implementation?15:47
yamamotook.  let me know if you want us hurry.15:47
devvesacarl_baldwin: this was my initial idea, to be able to finish before juno-315:48
carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule15:48
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devvesaactually, I will have vacations just after juno-3... so I must finish then15:49
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carl_baldwindevvesa:  sounds good.15:49
devvesai will upload WIP patches anyway. so you can follow the evolution15:49
carl_baldwinyamamoto: devvesa:  You can work backwards from there to decide when that feature will be needed to complete development.15:50
carl_baldwindevvesa: That will be great.15:50
carl_baldwindevvesa: yamamoto: Anything else?15:50
yamamotonothing from me15:50
devvesanothing from me neither15:50
carl_baldwinThanks.15:50
carl_baldwin#topic neutron-ipam15:51
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carl_baldwinseizadi: hi15:51
seizadiWe have had comments and I have been turning them around, got some more last night that I will update the bps.15:51
seizadiStill on track for Juno-2, now there is a hard deadline for bp, I will make sure I turn around the latest comments today.15:51
seizadiWe are also working on Thrid Party CI so that we can submit our External IPAM solution in addition to Default IPAM for Juno-2.15:51
seizadiWe heard from Atlanta Summit from Community that IPv6 was desirable for IPAM, been looking at the IPv6 support to test for IPAM. Find IPv6 support not driven like other projects as a focus effort. The wiki page is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/IPv6#Blueprints15:51
seizadiWe will test what is in Juno, but have concern about having complete IPv6 functionality in Juno.15:52
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carl_baldwinseizadi: Your concern is noted.  Please design with IPv6 in mind.  Current IPv6 functionality should still work with the implementation.  However, I realize it is a moving target at the moment.15:53
carl_baldwinDon’t be so concerned about it that you cannot make forward progress on the rest.15:53
carl_baldwinI will look over the reviews with an eye on IPv6.15:54
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seizadiOK, we are tracking the patches some are not merged yet15:54
carl_baldwinseizadi: What is the link to your bp?15:55
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seizadiIt is on L3 Meeting page15:55
carl_baldwinI’m having trouble hitting launchpad again for some reason.15:56
seizadihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/97986/15:56
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carl_baldwinAm I the only one that gets a lot of DNS failures when trying to go to launchpad?15:56
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yamamotoseizadi: you should fix the topic15:57
carl_baldwinyamamoto: Thanks, I was about the suggest the same.15:57
seizadiOK15:58
yamamotolaunchpad is working for me15:58
seizadiHere is the other bp https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97967/15:58
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97967/15:58
carl_baldwinseizadi: :)15:59
chuckClast minute or so15:59
carl_baldwinseizadi: Be sure the topic is correct on this one as well.15:59
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seizadiOk15:59
carl_baldwingit review sometimes mangles topics if you have the word blueprint in your commit message.15:59
carl_baldwinchuckC: Thanks, did you have anything?16:00
chuckCI posted the Link Aggregation spec https://review.openstack.org/103765.  I think it's relevant for the L3 team because the main short-term issue is around DHCP.16:00
chuckCThe main issue is booting baremetal node from one of a set of interfaces and end up with the same ip address regardless of which16:00
yamamotoi saw someone writing "|3lueprint" or such for poor gerrit16:00
carl_baldwinchuckC: I’ll have a look.16:00
chuckCcarl_baldwin: thanks16:01
carl_baldwinchuckC: I’ll have a look.16:01
carl_baldwinAnything else?  We’re out of time.16:01
yamamotonothing from me16:01
carl_baldwinGreat work all around.  Thanks everyone!16:01
carl_baldwin#endmeeting16:01
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viveknarasimhanthanks carl.  good day everyone16:02
yamamotothank you16:02
yamamotogood night16:02
chuckCbye16:02
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SumitNaiksatamhi Team Group Policy!17:59
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prasadvSumitNaiksatam: hello18:00
songoleHello SumitNaiksatam18:00
SumitNaiksatamprasadv songole: hello18:00
SumitNaiksatamrkukura mandeep s3wong banix: there?18:00
rkukurahi18:00
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: welcome back!18:00
banixhi18:00
SumitNaiksatambanix: hi18:00
SumitNaiksatamok lets get started18:00
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul  3 18:00:53 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy'18:00
SumitNaiksatam#info agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy18:01
SumitNaiksatam#info Juno specification submission deadline: July 10th, specification approval deadline: july 17th18:01
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banixSumitNaiksatam: hi18:01
SumitNaiksatamwe need to revisit and check if we need to submit any more blueprints for the stuff we haven’t addressed yet (outside of what is in the group policy umbrella blueprint)18:02
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s3wonghello18:02
SumitNaiksatambanix: hi again :-)18:02
s3wongSeems like meeting has started...18:02
SumitNaiksatams3wong: yeah welcome, just started, you were called out earlier :-P18:02
SumitNaiksatams3wong: AIs assigned!18:02
SumitNaiksatam#topic Resource Model/API/DB/Plugin Update18:03
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SumitNaiksatamSo all patches have been posted now (later patches need a rebase)18:03
SumitNaiksatamand have been using a patch name convention: GP-API/DB/PLG/1/2/318:04
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: Is any update expected to these at this point?18:04
SumitNaiksatam* GP-API/DB/PLG-1/2/318:04
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i dont think there are any outstanding comments for GP-API/DB/PLG-118:05
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: well apart from the one you had for driver UTs,18:05
SumitNaiksatamand i have not put the DB migration script yet18:05
SumitNaiksatambut i dont think i will be doing these today18:05
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: I think Paul Michali put a -1 on the latest gp-api-1 regarding copy.copy()18:06
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: ah i didnt see that18:06
SumitNaiksatamcopy.copy() was used per markmcclain’s comments18:06
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: It would be good to know if this will force a quick update, or is not really an issue18:06
SumitNaiksatami will take a look as to what pcm’s comment is18:06
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rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: Thanks18:07
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i dont understand the comment as much18:07
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: using copy() versus copy.copy() or copy.deepcopy()18:08
SumitNaiksatamdeepcopy() is required wherever there are nested args, so i am not sure why a shallow copy would be used there18:08
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rkukuraI think he is concerned that copy.copy() copies the dictionary, but does not copy the items in it18:08
SumitNaiksatami dont know the difference between copy() versus copy.copy()18:08
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rkukuraI think copy.copy() is fine if its a dict of string->string mappings18:09
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: copy.copy() does a shallow copy, right?18:09
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: yeah18:09
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rkukuraBut if its a dict of dicts, then copy.deepcopy() may be needed if the nested dicts should be copied.18:09
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: so currently copy.copy() and copy.deepcopy() is used selectively whereever appropriate18:09
SumitNaiksatamat least that was the intention18:10
SumitNaiksatamok i will go back and check18:10
rkukuraHis comment is about a dict of dicts18:10
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: so that needs a deepcopy(), and i believe thats what i have18:11
rkukuraline 79 is a copy.copy()18:11
rkukuraI’m not sure its really a problem.18:11
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay i will check after the meeting18:11
rkukuraThanks18:11
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: expect another rev in that case18:12
SumitNaiksatamper reviewer’s comment there is a change in base URI: /gp --> /grouppolicy18:12
SumitNaiksatamany objections?18:12
SumitNaiksatamits more typing if you are doing this manually18:12
SumitNaiksatamand the convention in neutron earlier was to use acronyms like lbaas, fwaas, etc18:13
SumitNaiksatambut i went with the suggestion to spell it ouy18:13
SumitNaiksatam*out18:13
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SumitNaiksatamattribute name change: default_subnet_prefix_length --> subnet_prefix_length18:13
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: Thanks!18:13
SumitNaiksatamhopefully there are not more name changes18:14
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SumitNaiksatamso we did a quick rev on the group policy spec to reflect all the name changes18:14
SumitNaiksatamactually mestery did that (thanks!)18:14
banixSumitNaiksatam: grouppolicy is good18:14
rkukuraI really did not want a config variable in the implicit_policy driver called default_default_subnet_prefix_length!18:14
SumitNaiksatamhowever the above attribute name change is not reflected in that18:14
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: ok18:14
SumitNaiksatambanix: ok18:14
songoleSumitNaiksatam: how about CLI commands? Use gp_ or grouppolicy_ ?18:15
SumitNaiksatamso in general (off-topic), has anyone pulled the neutron-spec repo recently?18:15
SumitNaiksatamsongole: thanks for bringing that up, lets take that up in CLI update18:15
rkukuraI don’t care about gp_ vs. grouppolicy_, but we need to nail it down ASAP18:15
songoleSumitNaiksatam: ok18:15
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: I have - anything wrong?18:16
rkukuraI meant in the URIs18:16
SumitNaiksatams3wong:  i dont seee the latest merges18:16
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: songole’s question was not on the URI18:16
SumitNaiksatams3wong: the latest commit i saw in that repo was june 25th18:16
rkukurarealized that18:16
SumitNaiksatam#link https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs18:17
SumitNaiksatambut a bunch of patches have been “merged” since18:17
SumitNaiksatamso i wanted to put one more rev for the GP-spec, but i couldnt make progree18:17
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: hmm... OK, I saw the files, didn't check the date18:17
SumitNaiksatamanyone have any idea?18:17
SumitNaiksatams3wong: see the latest commit18:17
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: 8 days ago...18:18
SumitNaiksatams3wong: yeah18:18
SumitNaiksatamand thats not right18:18
SumitNaiksatamso i dont know, perhaps a question for the infra team, i did not get a chance to follow up18:19
SumitNaiksatamanyone, whenever this gets sorted please expect another minor rev, with the attribute name change18:19
SumitNaiksatamanything anyone else wanted to edit in the spec (any inconsistency?) please let me know, or if you want to post the update please go ahead, and include the update to the subnet_prefix_length attribute (coordinate with me)18:20
SumitNaiksatamrkukura had comments on adding explicit UT on the plugin patch18:20
SumitNaiksatamthe code path for the dummy driver currently gets exercised18:20
SumitNaiksatamwith the existing UTs18:20
SumitNaiksatambut it will be good to have specific UTs and will help with the downstream patches18:21
rkukurayes, that patch didn’t verify that the right driver methods get called with context objects containing the right data18:21
SumitNaiksatamSo banix is working on adding driver-specific UTs to GPM-PLG-118:21
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rkukuraSumitNaiksatam, banix: great!18:21
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SumitNaiksatambanix: :D18:21
banixsorry guys :) just kidding. I have been following18:22
SumitNaiksatami have also not put the DB migration script in GP-DB-118:22
SumitNaiksatamwhats the thinking, should we add it upfront, or should we add one script at the end of the series?18:22
SumitNaiksatamok, let me know if you have thoughts18:24
SumitNaiksatam#topic Mapping Model/Driver Update18:24
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: over to you18:24
rkukuraDoes not having the migration actually prevent deploying neutron-server with the plugin?18:24
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: perhaps, so its required upfront18:24
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SumitNaiksatamwill add it18:24
SumitNaiksatamand we can modify the same script in the subsequent patches18:25
rkukuraI was on PTO most of the past week, but managed to make some progress, especially while stuck at JFK most of yesterday18:25
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rkukuraThe implicit_driver patch is done, but it and the other gpm-* patches need to be rebased18:25
rkukuraFree wi-fi in the wine bar next to our gate helped18:25
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rkukurakept my wife from being too annoyed that I was working18:26
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: great, good to hear about the implicit-driver18:26
banixbig storm came through the city18:27
banixyesterday18:27
rkukuraSo I will rebase gpm-ipd and the other gpm-* patches and post today18:27
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: ok great18:27
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: the mapping dirver, how is that coming along?18:27
rkukuraI’m now going to get the gpm-rmd (resource_mapping driver) into a functional state and post ASAP18:27
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: great, i guess we need that in ASAP to get past the current -2 on the first patch18:28
s3wongrkukura: which repo has you been working off of? I couldn't find it on noironetworks/neutron-group-policy18:28
rkukuraHopefully this will all some if the Sumit’s initial patches to start merging, even if this one is still WIP18:28
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: yes, i agree, i think its a reasonable expectation18:28
rkukuras3wong: I’m working off gerrit18:28
banixhi18:28
s3wongrkukura: I see18:29
banixsorry oops wrong window18:29
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: any blockers, or anything you wanted to bring up for discussion?18:29
rkukuraI should be able to make some progress on gpm-rmd over the long weekend (since I’ve just had a nice vacation) and hopefully have it pretty much complete by Monday.18:29
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: ok18:30
s3wongrkukura: OK - I will need to look at your mapping driver part to think about the contract rendering part18:30
rkukuraNo blockers right now, just need to know whether to rebase on the current gp-* patches or wait for updates18:30
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: ok, i have to run to another meeting immediately after this, but will get to it later in the day after that18:30
s3wongrkukura: SumitNaiksatam: in the mean time, I will look at SumitNaiksatam 's latest contract API/DB patches to see which fields need to get into mapping DB18:30
rkukuras3wong: Hopefully a WIP patch, probably missing UTs, will help with that18:31
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i will update once i am done18:31
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s3wongrkukura: I am sure it will :-)18:31
SumitNaiksatams3wong: thanks, we have a separate agenda item for you :-)18:31
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: thanks for the update18:31
SumitNaiksatam#topic CLI/Client update18:31
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SumitNaiksatamsongole: over to you18:31
songoleAPI-1 patch is posted18:32
songolehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/104013/18:32
SumitNaiksatamsongole: sweet, thanks so much for jumping on it in hemanth’s absence and getting it ready in quick time18:32
songoleI will update the name changes18:32
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SumitNaiksatamsongole: thanks18:32
songoleSo, should it be gp_ or grouppolicy_?18:32
SumitNaiksatamsongole: so you had a question on whether CLI should start with gp- or grouppolicy-18:33
SumitNaiksatamsongole: yeah18:33
SumitNaiksatami think the current practice in neutron is to spell it out?18:33
banixi think grouppolicy_ would be better at the end of the day with auto completion etc18:33
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rkukuraAre acronyms used for the other services?18:33
SumitNaiksatami dont have a devstack ready here to check quickly18:34
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i think we are probably using a mixed approach18:34
SumitNaiksatams3wong: do we go loadbalancer- or lb- in the lbaas CLI?18:34
rkukuraI like acronyms ;)18:34
SumitNaiksatami know for fwaas we have “fw-“18:34
songolevpn, lb18:34
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: yes, we all kknow that :-)18:34
banixneutron router-interface-add ….18:34
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: I think it is 'loadbalancer'18:35
SumitNaiksatamyeah, i think we have been using a mixed approach18:35
songoleSumitNaiksatam: it is lb_18:35
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s3wongsongole: seems like I got it wrong :-)18:35
songolefloatingip is expanded18:35
rkukuraI like acronyms, but I don’t like “shortenned” words18:35
SumitNaiksatamthere is probably a character threshold beyond which we resort to acronyms18:35
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SumitNaiksatamto banix’s earlier point, CLI is auto completed18:36
SumitNaiksatamso we really dont need to type even if we have the long form18:36
SumitNaiksatam(my personal perference is also with the acronym)18:36
SumitNaiksatambut perhaps we can roll with “grouppolicy_”?18:37
SumitNaiksatamthe two ‘p’s in between make it tricky if you chose not to autocomplete18:37
songoleSumitNaiksatam: agree18:37
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s3wongSumitNaiksatam: so what was the reviewer's reason to move from 'gp' to 'grouppolicy'?18:38
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s3wongthat 'gp' can mean something else?18:38
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SumitNaiksatams3wong: i dont know18:38
* regXboi wanders in late with a classifier question for the open discussion18:38
SumitNaiksatamregXboi: sure we will have time for that18:39
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regXboiSumitNaiksatam: thx18:39
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SumitNaiksatams3wong: i chose not to deliberate too much on subjective issues18:39
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: fair enough :-)18:39
songoleSumitNaiksatam: so, the consensus is grouppolicy_?18:39
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SumitNaiksatamany objections?18:40
rkukuraMy vote would be gp_, but won’t object18:40
banixno objections18:40
SumitNaiksatami will take that as a no objection from rkukura18:40
s3wongdoesn't matter, really :-) do have to settle on one18:40
regXboiI'd agree with rkukura, as it is shorter to type, but I won't object either18:40
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SumitNaiksatamregXboi: you dont need to type18:40
SumitNaiksatamregXboi: its auto completed18:41
SumitNaiksatamregXboi: however we the base URI is /grouppolicy, in case if some level of consistency needs to exist between them18:41
SumitNaiksatamdont hear any objections yet18:41
regXboiconsistency is always good18:41
SumitNaiksatamok, done then!18:41
SumitNaiksatam#agreed CLI prefix is grouppolicy_ (not gp_)18:42
songoleok18:42
SumitNaiksatamsongole: any other blockers for you?18:42
songoleno. I am unblocked!18:42
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SumitNaiksatamsongole: nice, and thanks again for stepping up on this!18:43
SumitNaiksatamwe are running a bit slow today18:43
SumitNaiksatam#topic Security Group mapping update18:43
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SumitNaiksatams3wong: over to you18:43
SumitNaiksatamprogress?18:43
SumitNaiksatami know you ahve dependency18:44
SumitNaiksatambut still… ;-P18:44
s3wongSo as we talked about last week, it seems like the only item that needs to be added to mapping DB would be the security group ID18:44
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SumitNaiksatams3wong: do we have a document? or perhaps edit to the existing mapping google doc, to capture your thoughts?18:44
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: yes, documentation is the first step - where is the existing mapping doc?18:45
rkukuras3wong: Any thoughts on whether to incrementally modify the SGs as various policies change, or just trigger regenerating them?18:45
SumitNaiksatams3wong: its linked somewhere from the wiki :-P18:45
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: OK18:45
SumitNaiksatam#link https://docs.google.com/a/noironetworks.com/document/d/134P7TJdiIfjPWbmstSTY4vp9E6oRYTFs64ON3thFxhI/edit?usp=sharing18:46
SumitNaiksatams3wong: ^^^18:46
SumitNaiksatams3wong: sorry for being pushy, but when can we expect an update?18:46
s3wongrkukura: I am thinking at this point we have one security group for the whole contract, and have each policy-rule be added as incremental update18:46
s3wongrkukura: do you see any potential problem?18:47
SumitNaiksatams3wong: ok18:47
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: yes, after the Service Insertion spec update, I will update the doc to reflect on my thoughts18:47
mandeeps3wong: ok18:47
rkukuras3wong: I was thinking we’d need a SG per EPG or something like that18:47
s3wongrkukura: OK - but if an EPG consumes or provides more than one contracts, do we simply consolidate?18:48
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SumitNaiksatams3wong: thanks!18:48
s3wongrkukura: (and this also makes future expansion on stuff like label difficult to manage, right?)18:48
rkukuras3wong: I was thinking that we’d need to merge the rules from all contacts into one SG. I don’t think a port can use more than one SG.18:49
rkukuras/contacts/contracts/18:49
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i dont think so either18:49
s3wongrkukura: Oh, OK. That makes sense - have to work with limitation on SG18:49
banixyup one sg18:49
rkukuraIf an EPG has multiple subnets, I think they could all use the same SG, but I’m not sure18:49
SumitNaiksatam#action sync up between s3wong rkukura mandeep SumitNaiksatam on SG mapping, s3wong to put some initial thoughts in https://docs.google.com/a/noironetworks.com/document/d/134P7TJdiIfjPWbmstSTY4vp9E6oRYTFs64ON3thFxhI/edit?usp=sharing18:50
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: will update the doc over the Indpendence Day weekend18:50
SumitNaiksatams3wong: thanks!18:50
* SumitNaiksatam realizes he is not making too many friends here!18:50
SumitNaiksatams3wong: so on the code front you have a dependency, and are blocked18:51
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: well, if rkukura works during his PTO, it is only appropriate that I also work during ID4 :-)18:51
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: yes, for one, action isn't defined yet from your contract patch18:51
rkukuras3wong: I intended to get a lot more work done than I actually did, so please don’t feel any obligation18:52
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: and (2) I would like to see rkukura 's mapping driver patch once it is available18:52
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SumitNaiksatams3wong: ok, makes sense18:52
SumitNaiksatams3wong: i think as long as we have a plan in place, please shout out to us if you are blocked18:53
s3wongrkukura: cool :-)18:53
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: certainly18:53
SumitNaiksatamwe have our backs to the wall in terms of J2 deadline18:53
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: I was stuck in an event over the last two days, so progress has been slow... sorry about that18:53
regXboium... quick acro expansion: SG = ??18:53
SumitNaiksatams3wong: np at all18:54
SumitNaiksatamregXboi: security group18:54
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s3wongregXboi: security group18:54
mandeepregXboi: Security Group18:54
regXboiah thanks18:54
SumitNaiksatams3wong: thanks much for the update18:54
regXboiI was suddenly thinking service g.... and getting confused :)18:54
SumitNaiksatam#topic services’s integration18:54
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SumitNaiksatambanix: any thoughts?18:54
SumitNaiksatamor update18:55
s3wongdamn, me again :-) ?18:55
banixto s3wong18:55
SumitNaiksatams3wong: i tried to be subtle18:55
SumitNaiksatams3wong: you can blame banix now! :-P18:55
s3wongSo last week I met with mandeep and SumitNaiksatam , and decided to not wait for ServiceBase for 'redirect'18:55
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SumitNaiksatams3wong: ok good, i believe there is a bit of dependency there as well on the driver patches that are expected18:56
SumitNaiksatams3wong: thanks for that update18:56
SumitNaiksatam#topic open discussion18:56
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SumitNaiksatamregXboi: go for it18:56
regXboimay I?18:56
regXboiso I was reviewing the GBP patch sets18:56
SumitNaiksatamregXboi: yes thanks18:56
regXboiand I'm missing a policy classifier that goes beyond the protocol18:57
regXboispecifically I have a use case where I want to look at the first octet of the MAC18:57
regXboibecause of different policies for multicast traffic18:57
mandeepregXboi: By design the classifiers are L4+ and the endpoints (L3 and below) are expected to be identified by group membership18:57
regXboidoesn't matter18:58
mandeepregXboi: We need to think of multicast specifically18:58
regXboiI'm saying that an L4+ classifier appears to miss the boat18:58
SumitNaiksatamregXboi: i believe our current classifier definition is extensible18:58
mandeepregXboi: I get your point on multicast, and I agree that it is an problem18:59
regXboiSumitNaiksatam: I hope so, because I'm going to put comments in looking to do that18:59
regXboiso be prepared to see some comments on the classifiers for that18:59
SumitNaiksatamregXboi: sure, and duly noted18:59
regXboiotherwise the patch sets will be getting +1s from me down the line18:59
regXboi(for what it is worth)18:59
regXboiSumitNaiksatam: that was all I had18:59
SumitNaiksatamregXboi: definitely helps a lot to get the +118:59
* regXboi stole the first X minutes of this meeting to actually *DO* the reading :)19:00
SumitNaiksatamregXboi: as long as there is a path to evolve, i think we should keep rolling19:00
SumitNaiksatamregXboi: otherwise we are not going to get this update off the ground19:00
mandeepregXboi: I agree that the multicast use case needs to be resolved (as opposed to that we need to extend the classifier to L3 and below ;-)19:00
regXboiSumitNaiksatam: I'm good with that - I'll probably leave the ones with comments at 0 for the nonce19:01
regXboiso I'm not blocking19:01
SumitNaiksatamregXboi: sure19:01
regXboimandeep: I'd prefer not to have different mechanisms19:01
s3wongmandeep: yes, hopefully you don't go back to discussing adding IP addresses and what not in classifier19:01
* regXboi cringes19:01
mandeeps3wong: That was the point that I was making19:01
SumitNaiksatamok we are runnning a couple of mins over19:01
regXboiwho will be in MN next week?19:02
regXboiwe can talk about this then...19:02
SumitNaiksatami cant make it19:02
banixi think apart from me and you rkukura19:02
regXboi:(19:02
mandeepI will not be there either19:02
s3wongwon't be there, unfortunately19:02
regXboiok... so we'll take this to email then19:02
regXboiI'll put together some thoughts in comments and we can branch from that19:03
s3wongregXboi: sounds good19:03
mandeepregXboi: may be a quick call will converge faster19:03
SumitNaiksatamregXboi: sounds good, will follow up specifically on this with you19:03
SumitNaiksatamwhat mandeep said19:03
regXboimandeep: the trick is finding time :(19:03
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SumitNaiksatamok i will wrap it here19:03
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SumitNaiksatamthanks all and happy 4th of July!19:03
regXboibanix will tell you: I'm a really popular guy19:03
SumitNaiksatam#endmeeting19:04
s3wongthanks everyone!19:04
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mandeepregXboi: I agree. Let us start with an email, and taje it form there19:04
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rkukurabye19:04
mandeepbye19:04
songolebye19:04
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