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| carl_baldwin | hi all | 15:00 |
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| devvesa | hi carl | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: hi | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami, viveknarasimhan, safchain, amuller, nextone92, yamamoto: ping | 15:01 |
| jschwarz | hi | 15:01 |
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| mrsmith | pong | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: hi. I saw you come in and was about to say hi. | 15:01 |
| mrsmith | :) | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: hi | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 21 15:02:00 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:02 |
| Rajeev | carl_baldwin: Hi | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Feature Proposal Freeze is August 21st (today) | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Patches for new features posted after today will be automatically deferred. | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | Juno-3 is September 4th. That is just two short weeks away. | 15:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | Reviewers will be getting in to even more of a crunch as that approaches. | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Bugs | 15:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think the bugs have been kept under control. There are a couple I’d like to get in to Juno. | 15:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | bug 1334926 | 15:05 |
| * pcm_ sorry late | 15:05 | |
| carl_baldwin | bug #1335375 | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1334926 | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1335375 | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | I think that is all for the general bugs. | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ovs-dvr | 15:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: ping | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | I don’t see Swami around. Does anyone else have a report for DVR? | 15:07 |
| Rajeev | Mostly working through bugs | 15:07 |
| mrsmith | I made good progress on migration yesterday | 15:08 |
| mrsmith | I should post an update to the patch today | 15:08 |
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| Rajeev | Initiated design discussions with FWaaS team | 15:08 |
| mrsmith | there are dependencies with the SNAT bugs however | 15:09 |
| mrsmith | I merged the existing SNAT fix patch into my local migration patch | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: merged? Or did you rebase yours to it? | 15:09 |
| mrsmith | hand merged | 15:10 |
| mrsmith | as a prototype | 15:10 |
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| mrsmith | so we may want to consider making the migration patch dependent in gerrit for the snat fixes | 15:10 |
| mrsmith | or just make sure the snat patch merges soon | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: That will be better in the long run. | 15:11 |
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| mrsmith | I have updates to the snat patch also | 15:11 |
| mrsmith | better handling for subnets | 15:11 |
| mrsmith | in the 'do vms exist' method | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | We have 19 bugs listed in the backlog. Most are medium importance so I’m not too concerned about that. But, I find it harder to keep up with the reviews because it is hard to tell when is ready for review. | 15:12 |
| mrsmith | true | 15:12 |
| mrsmith | in my opinion the snat and migration patches weren't ready *yet* but I think they will be on the next revs | 15:12 |
| mrsmith | they both need more UTs also | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: okay. | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: Swami: Rajeev: viveknarasimhan: Please don’t hesitate to ping me when you feel a patch is ready for review. | 15:15 |
| mrsmith | thanks. sounds good. | 15:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | There is one High Importance bug that does not have an owner. | 15:16 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: Can you share your search query? | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1358554 | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: The query for bugs? | 15:16 |
| amuller | yeah | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | I have two that are linked from here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/DVR/HowTo#DVR_Backlog | 15:17 |
| amuller | thanks | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: glad to help. | 15:17 |
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| carl_baldwin | I will find someone to drive bug 1358554 | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will find owner for bug 1358554 | 15:20 |
| rossella_s | carl_baldwin: I can give it a try | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything else on DVR? | 15:20 |
| rossella_s | carl_baldwin: will probably need some ramp up time, don't know the code very well | 15:20 |
| Rajeev | for 1358718 | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | rossella_s: Are you familiar with how the dvr experimental job has evolved since July? | 15:20 |
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| rossella_s | carl_baldwin: to be honest not very much...but I always wanted to catch up and I have some time now...anyway if somebody with more experience is willing to take it, please go on | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | rossella_s: I can catch you up a little after the meeting since we’ll be chatting anyway. | 15:22 |
| * carl_baldwin goes to look at | 15:23 | |
| rossella_s | carl_baldwin: great, thanks! | 15:23 |
| * carl_baldwin 1358718 | 15:23 | |
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| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: ? | 15:23 |
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| Rajeev | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1358718 | 15:24 |
| Rajeev | is this required for juno-3 ? | 15:24 |
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| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: It is marked Medium so technically no. The Highs should be worked down first. | 15:25 |
| Rajeev | agreed. | 15:25 |
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| Swami | hi | 15:26 |
| Swami | sorry I am late. | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: hi | 15:26 |
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| carl_baldwin | With that said, I’d like very much to wittle down the DVR backlog. The number of Mediums is growing steadily. | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: Anything to report? | 15:27 |
| Swami | nothing to add at this time. | 15:27 |
| Rajeev | carl_baldwin: can we chat later on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1335375 you mentioned earlier | 15:28 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: Swami: I'd love to get a decision down on the CLI patches for DVR | 15:28 |
| amuller | Sort it out... We can talk about it after the meeting | 15:28 |
| Swami | amuller: sure, | 15:28 |
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| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: yes, we can chat. Finding me a bit later today. | 15:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | Anything else to discuss? | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic l3-high-availability | 15:31 |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller: safchain: hi | 15:31 |
| amuller | Sylvain is on vacation | 15:31 |
| amuller | I brushed up the server side patches since last week | 15:31 |
| amuller | The scheduler patch is the weakest in the chain... There's a DB query there that's untested and I wouldn't be surprised if it's wrong | 15:32 |
| amuller | The rest of the patches are better | 15:32 |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller: I think I saw that DB query. | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | ;) | 15:32 |
| amuller | We need reviews, I'll iterate fast and hopefully we'll be able to merge the feature | 15:32 |
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| amuller | I pushed a bunch of patches for another feature to observe the freeze today, I'm back on L3 HA now | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ll watch for you to address feedback. | 15:34 |
| amuller | I will | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: Do we need to chat about the DVR integration? | 15:34 |
| amuller | You might force me to work on Friday =D | 15:34 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: I don't have any knowledge yet to contribute on that front sadly | 15:35 |
| amuller | But I will by early next week | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | I see two issues (there may be more) | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | First is that the scheduler seems to be written for one or the other and not both. | 15:36 |
| amuller | right | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | Second may be a datapath issue since the snat namespace uses a second port that is not the gateway port. | 15:36 |
| amuller | I'll have to look in to that | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | So, feature freeze is two weeks out which concerns me a lot at this point. | 15:38 |
| amuller | Yeah I have a bunch of new grey hair now | 15:38 |
| mrsmith | carl_baldwin: the second port for snat - do you mean the internal port? | 15:38 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: yes. | 15:39 |
| mrsmith | k | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | vrrp would have to work on that port and not the internal gateway port. | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | I shouldn’t have called it a gateway port. ;) | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | I mean the internal port that is the gateway for internal traffic. | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: Let’s talk a little more about this soon when you’ve had a chance to think it over. | 15:40 |
| amuller | Will do | 15:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | Meanwhile, I’ll move on the the agent side reviews. | 15:41 |
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| amuller | The l3 functional test is failing because of a gate configuration issue, there's patches by Maru to fix that | 15:41 |
| amuller | it works locally | 15:41 |
| amuller | And the agent-side patch that adds HA capabilities adds a new functional test for HA routers, which suffers from the same issue | 15:42 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: do you have links to those patches by marun ? | 15:42 |
| amuller | in Neutron: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114717/ | 15:43 |
| amuller | in infra: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114416/ | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, I will review. | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: Anything else to discuss? | 15:44 |
| amuller | Nay | 15:44 |
| amuller | Thanks for your time Carl | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: thank you. | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:45 |
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| carl_baldwin | devvesa: Hi | 15:45 |
| devvesa | hi | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | I see you’ve been posting code. | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | I plan to start reviewing it today. | 15:46 |
| devvesa | yes, I've splitted the code in three patches | 15:46 |
| devvesa | great! | 15:46 |
| devvesa | i've edited the wiki subteam page with the links to the reviews | 15:46 |
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| carl_baldwin | How much have you been able to get working in your testing? | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: Thanks for the links. I’ll go there to start. | 15:47 |
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| devvesa | extension and database mixin is fully tested | 15:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | Great. | 15:48 |
| devvesa | i've been testing the agent with a remote quagga exchanging routes , and it works | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | Did the bgp speakers comparison discussion conclude? I’m sorry I’ve been out in DVR/HA land for a long time. | 15:48 |
| devvesa | i need to spend more time testing more complex scenarios like two agents working in HA | 15:48 |
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| devvesa | well, I've just used Ryu because the api is clean and it has basic features | 15:49 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/BGPSpeakersComparison | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | Ryu does look like a stand-out. | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | How is the ryu code delivered? | 15:49 |
| devvesa | installing from pypi | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | Okay, that should be good. | 15:50 |
| devvesa | and i like how it exchanges routes without touching the routing table of the agent's machine | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: sounds like you’ve done a lot. | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: I agree. When I was playing around with quagga, that was a pain. | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | This sounds like just what we need. | 15:51 |
| amuller | devvesa: I think a 'how to test' wiki page but would really helpful | 15:51 |
| devvesa | amuller: ok! I'll do | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: +1 | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: great. | 15:52 |
| devvesa | #action devvesa write a wiki page about dynamic routing and test | 15:52 |
| devvesa | amuller: don't expect a blog post like yours :) | 15:52 |
| amuller | I'd appreciate something shorter hehe | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will review BGP patches | 15:53 |
| devvesa | don't worry about this! :D | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: anything more? | 15:53 |
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| devvesa | just a couple of comments, I don't know if you will be agree: | 15:54 |
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| devvesa | 1. as I told you, I've tried to simplify the spec doing less exposed endpoints | 15:54 |
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| devvesa | if you are not agree I have the 'extended version' :) | 15:55 |
| carl_baldwin | Yes, I think #1 should be fine as we discussed. | 15:55 |
| devvesa | and 2. the discovered routes are applied over router's static routes | 15:55 |
| devvesa | but static routes are applied as a whole, so once you associate a router to a routing instance, it will override any routes | 15:56 |
| devvesa | you have previously | 15:56 |
| devvesa | I don't know if we can live with this | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | So, using extraroutes and dynamic routes is mutually exclusive? | 15:57 |
| devvesa | yes | 15:57 |
| devvesa | so you can modify extra routes from the API, but the periodic task that check discovered routes will override it | 15:57 |
| devvesa | only in the router you have associated | 15:58 |
| devvesa | for dynamic routing | 15:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | I see. | 15:58 |
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| devvesa | maybe adding a new attribute in the extraroutes entity with the source that added it (static or dynamic) | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | I might have to think about that. My initial reaction is that it may be acceptible. However, I wonder if some API tweak to detect and raise an error in the event that both are applied to a router. | 15:59 |
| devvesa | would be enough | 15:59 |
| devvesa | but I have not done this part | 15:59 |
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| carl_baldwin | Is this a problem if dynamic routing is turned on but a router does not learn routes. Only advertises routes? | 16:00 |
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| devvesa | you can do it, sure | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: Let me think on it while I review the code. | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | We’re out of time. | 16:00 |
| devvesa | ok, thanks carl | 16:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Bye everyone. Thanks for all your work. | 16:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 21 16:01:14 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-08-21-15.02.html | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-08-21-15.02.log.html | 16:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 18:01 |
| yyywu | hi | 18:01 |
| emagana | hola! | 18:01 |
| hemanthravi | hi | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | wondering if s3wong is here | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i think we have fewer folks joining today | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets get started | 18:03 |
| rkukura | hi - sorry I’m late | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 21 18:03:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: no, just in time :-) | 18:03 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Thanks to your reminder! | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info reminder - the feature proposal freeze deadline is today | 18:03 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam, eod PST? | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything that we had planned to post and has not yet made it? | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: ATE (anywhere on earth) #link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anywhere_on_Earth ;-) | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ATE -> AOE | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: so a little more time than PST :-) | 18:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps good to plan around PST as the deadline though ;-P | 18:05 |
| s3wong | Hello | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: hi, glad you could make it | 18:05 |
| hemanthravi | :) | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok any more thoughts/questions on today’s deadline? | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Discussion on the path forward | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so we are currently posting the patches for review into main neutron | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and we should continue to do that until an explicit change in plans is noted | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we are all aware of the discussions around incubator/labs and potentially moving this feature to that | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | however, that is still in discussion | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we can hopefully get closure on that soon | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any thoughts/comments or any additional information anyone has on this that they would like to share? | 18:09 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | oh before i forget (or get bumped out) - | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #chairs rkukura hemanthravi LouisF songole | 18:11 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | no questions on this topic? :-) | 18:11 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam, waiting for the decision on the path forward | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: sure, i definitely feel your frustration and anxiety, and i hope that the decision is something that we collectively take | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hence wanted to have the discussion here | 18:13 |
| rkukura | we really need to get discussion of this neutron-incubator proposal going, here, and on openstack-dev | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: +1 | 18:13 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: any specific topics that you would want to bring up here? | 18:14 |
| rkukura | I think silence is being interpretted as agreement with the details of the current proposal | 18:14 |
| hemanthravi | I had couple of concerns reg how the incubator code will be consumed... | 18:14 |
| hemanthravi | added this as comments in the etherpad | 18:14 |
| rkukura | hemanthravi: Thats my main concern as well | 18:14 |
| rkukura | Is the etherpad still actively being use for this? | 18:15 |
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| hemanthravi | rkukura, not sure but I see some comments posted a few days back | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hemanthravi: yeah i am not sure why the discussion was moved from the etherpad to the wiki page, even before the etherpad was opened up in the ML for discussion | 18:15 |
| rkukura | hemanthravi: Havn’t looked at the etherpad since the wiki pages was created | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i believe also that a path forward here is to actually try this out (creating the repo, to posting the patches, to building the packages) and then factor that experience into any process or policies we formalize on | 18:17 |
| rkukura | The current proposal doesn’t seem to address making specific features within the repo consumable by OpenStack distributions. | 18:17 |
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| songole | SumitNaiksatam: link to the wiki page? | 18:18 |
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| hemanthravi | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Incubator | 18:18 |
| hemanthravi | is this the wiki page? | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Incubator | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: hemanthravi ^^^ | 18:18 |
| songole | thanks | 18:19 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on then | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic patches currently in review | 18:20 |
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| LouisF | i have not seen any heat patches | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy/Patches | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: do heat patches have the same FPF deadline as Neutron? | 18:20 |
| LouisF | SumitNaiksatam: dont know | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: okay | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | my understanding was that songole and hemanthravi had also signed up for this earlier | 18:21 |
| hemanthravi | LouisF, SumitNaiksatam I think susaant posted the heat patches will check with him | 18:22 |
| LouisF | hemanthravi: thx | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: my bad, yes Susaant posted a patch | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: can you please inform Susaant to update the wiki page | 18:22 |
| hemanthravi | and generally they can lag the feature patch | 18:22 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam, will do | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: this was done more than a week back and right after the client patches in place | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it kind of slipped my mind | 18:23 |
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| s3wong | hello | 18:23 |
| s3wong | sorry I am late | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: welcome back | 18:23 |
| mandeep | s3wong: hello | 18:23 |
| s3wong | struggled to get onto the network at Big Switch :-) | 18:23 |
| songole | heat patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111417 & 111419 | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: great thanks | 18:24 |
| LouisF | songole: thx | 18:24 |
| mandeep | songole: Can you add it to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy/Patches | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | heat patches #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111417 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111419 | 18:24 |
| mandeep | songole: (Thanks) | 18:24 |
| songole | mandeep: yes, I will. | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: please review and follow up with Susaant on the missing pieces :-) | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: i know you wanted to get involved with this from the beginning | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Resource Model/API/DB/Plugin Update | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | some last week i rebased the whole series in Neutron, add the db migration, etc | 18:26 |
| LouisF | SumitNaiksatam: i will review | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | at that point i think all patches had passed jenkins | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: thanks | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | point being that you should consider the series to be fairly current | 18:27 |
| mandeep | SumitNaiksatam: +1 | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we dont have the name changes in the series yet | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but we first want to make sure that the downstream patches like s3wong’s are not affected immediately | 18:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | did not want to disrupt s3wong’s work prior to aug 21st | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and of course the old story is that the -2 is still present on the first patch (but i dont think that excites anyone anymore!) | 18:28 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Mapping Model/Driver Update | 18:29 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: anything new happening here? | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i did rebase those patches as well | 18:29 |
| rkukura | Nothing new here - I’ve been working on trying to get an ML2 BP implemented for today’s FPF. | 18:29 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok thanks | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Security Groups mapping update | 18:30 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: ? | 18:30 |
| s3wong | Yes | 18:30 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Thanks for doing the rebasing! I think there may be one or two comments I’ll want to incorporate. | 18:30 |
| s3wong | So I have been trying to get db migration going for my patch | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: sure, i just did a mechanical rebase | 18:30 |
| s3wong | unfortunately my patch was prior to Ronak's fix on --mysql-server option, thus it fails | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: ok | 18:30 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | is ronak here? | 18:31 |
| s3wong | and thus I was trying to rebase to SumitNaiksatam 's latest Contract patch, but couldn't get that to work neither | 18:31 |
| s3wong | (git review -d 103789 keeps on trying to get revision 1 instead of revision 7) | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i will work with you on that after this | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i need to understand the steps that you were following | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: lets keep that issue aside | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: are you set otherwise? | 18:32 |
| s3wong | and the last resort I attempted was to just get latest neutron on devstack, checkout SumitNaiksatam 's contract revision 7, and manually patch my stuff in to get db migration to work | 18:32 |
| s3wong | but for that I got "Database not up to date" | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: ok | 18:32 |
| s3wong | so exhausted all options at this moment :-) | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: but are you able to run UTs in your setup? | 18:33 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: yes, UTs are fine | 18:33 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: | 18:33 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam, when you get some time can you send out an e-mail for the list of steps for the rebase.. our driver patch ended up posting on all the ancestors | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: ok good | 18:33 |
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| hemanthravi | a week ago | 18:33 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: but can't get patch off of WIP unless I get DB migration | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: that cannot be avoided (i dont think you did anything wrong) | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: ok we will work on that after this meeting, sound okay? | 18:34 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam, :( | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: but we will discuss that as well | 18:34 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: also, my current patch does NOT have rule/classifier/actions update support yet | 18:34 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: you mean only “update”, right? | 18:35 |
| s3wong | well, creating rules and attaching to contracts --- in that sequence --- works | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: ok | 18:36 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: but I don't have mapping of policy-rule => SG rules | 18:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i am a little confused | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: so what are you mapping to what? | 18:36 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: thus can't update / delete individual ones, since the mapping driver doesn't maintain the mapping | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: so you mean you are not persisting the mapping association? | 18:37 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: when you create classifier/actions -> rules and associate with contract, then create contract with those, that sequence works as contract has reference for me to create those entries for SG | 18:37 |
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| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: but since I don't have the mapping of individual rules -> SG rules, update doesn't work | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: welcome, thought you were going to be MIA today ;-) | 18:38 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: I am :) 6000 miles or so sawy | 18:38 |
| banix | away | 18:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: okay maybe this is a longer discussion for the lenght of this meeting | 18:39 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: sure | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: lets sync up on this after we get to resolving your rebase issues | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: europe? | 18:39 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: sure | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic API Intercept | 18:40 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: there? | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: were you able to sync up with rkukura? | 18:40 |
| kevinbenton | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 18:40 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: 6000 miles from New York. Tehran, Iran to be more specific. Visiting my parents. | 18:40 |
| kevinbenton | SumitNaiksatam: yeah, we just decided to lift the WIP to get feedback on it | 18:40 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | banix: oh wow! | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: ok nice, thanks for staying on message on this, and ploughing through | 18:41 |
| mandeep | kevinbenton: +1 | 18:41 |
| kevinbenton | SumitNaiksatam: no prob | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so you are okay with the current state of the patch? | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109901 | 18:41 |
| rkukura | Its been a long time since I looked at it. Need to re-review. | 18:42 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok | 18:42 |
| rkukura | But it is in by the FPF! | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, thanks to kevinbenton, yay! | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic CLI/Client Update | 18:42 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | songole: hi | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any new updates? | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | you got some feedback last week | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | how is that coming along? | 18:43 |
| songole | Naming change? | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yeah, but that hasn’t made it to the API | 18:44 |
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| songole | I would wait for plugin changes | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but things like the “gp-“ prefix | 18:44 |
| songole | prefix change I haven't incorporated. I would all the changes at once | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: okay makes sense | 18:45 |
| songole | Magesh is adding unit tests | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Tempest tests | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | songole: nice, thanks for the update | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont have any updates on the tempest tests | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | will add more API tests at the earliest | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Vendor/Open Source Controller Drivers | 18:46 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so at this point i know one convergence has posted their driver | 18:46 |
| hemanthravi | will do a rebase and remove the wip today | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi songole: nice work you guys in at least meeting the FPF | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: great | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyone else want to discuss their drivers? | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am guessing that the incubator discussion sucked the momentum out of this effort a little bit | 18:47 |
| banix | We are going to wait and see how the incubator discussion pans out | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: ok sure | 18:48 |
| banix | great to see the driver by hemanthravi though! | 18:48 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i think the code will be useful regardless of where it lands | 18:48 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Horizon update | 18:49 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | not sure if ronak is here | 18:49 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | but i think he updated the patch a week ago | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and i think abishek was reviewing it from the horizon side | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93590/ | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: did you get a chance to take a peek at this? | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps not | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic open discussion | 18:51 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we might actually finish a little earlier today | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything anyone else wants to discuss? | 18:51 |
| LouisF | SumitNaiksatam: yes | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | otherwise i can go back to s3wong and work with him on the rebase issue | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: thanks | 18:52 |
| rkukura | I’m curious, if we go with the incubator option, whether we would want to base our development on the juno version of the neutron repo for a while, rather than tracking master? Would that enable vendors to complete their drivers and make them available to early adopters using the juno release? | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: that makes sense to me | 18:53 |
| hemanthravi | rkukura, +1 | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: however would that mean that we would have to wait for juno to release? | 18:53 |
| mandeep | rkukura: I agree, that is very helpful | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i hope not | 18:53 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I mean once Juno is tagged, and open for Kilo development | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | can we base it off J3, for instance | 18:53 |
| banix | well that seems the logical way of doing this | 18:53 |
| mandeep | SumitNaiksatam: I assume that by "tracking Juno" you imply "tracking Juno Milestones" | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, but that seems a long way away | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mandeep: i did not mention about tracking Juno | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mandeep: i think rkukura mentioned about tracking master | 18:54 |
| rkukura | If this is what makes most sense, we need to influence the neutron-incubator proposal to support this sort of thing. | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so lets start we had to start on the incubator/labs today | 18:55 |
| mandeep | SumitNaiksatam: Ooops ;-) | 18:55 |
| banix | I think vendors will have different approaches, some try to follow all cycle milestones some stick to the final release | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: we would still need to base it off the master, right? | 18:55 |
| rkukura | We could also do ongoing development on labs master, tracking neutron master, and back-port to stable-juno | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: we dont have J release tagged yet | 18:55 |
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| rkukura | I’m making the assumption we will have something merged to the labs repo before juno ships, but it will need more work | 18:56 |
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| s3wong | rkukura: SumitNaiksatam: is the labs package going to be released the same time as Juno release? | 18:57 |
| rkukura | So does consuming that ongoing work mean using neutron-master post-juno, or can it be consumed as an add-on to juno neutron? | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: i think that is still worked on | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: good point | 18:57 |
| rkukura | If this is something we care about, we need to get discussion going on the openstack-dev ML | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: that would depend on what strategy we adopt | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so we will need to start with the dependency on the master | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: but i think per your suggestion, we eventually get to a point where base the development on the labs off the milestones | 18:58 |
| mandeep | rkukura: Yes, I agree | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i think you are explicitly pinning that to the stable branch | 18:59 |
| mandeep | rkukura: (on starting a larger discussion quickly) | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i am wondering if this should be more granular, and we can base that of the milestone releases as well (like K1) | 18:59 |
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| rkukura | I’m just trying to get everyone thinking about the options for how we’d go forward with the labs repo, how we’d deliver stuff, and what might need changing in the current proposal. | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so in that sense the labs releases can lag the neutron master releases by one milestone | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: and i am not sure that anyone should agree to any one proposal as is | 19:00 |
| rkukura | If the goal is getting beta versions of new features into the hands of early adopters that are using packaged juno releases, lagging might make sense | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i believe this is going to be a learning and evolving experience (and we would need to factor that feedback in) | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | true to our tradition, we have gone over now :-) | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets wrap it here | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks everyone | 19:01 |
| rkukura | I’d hate to see the proposal adopted with its focus on PyPI as the release mechanism, supporting multiple neutron versions simultaneously (without branching), etc. | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: +1 | 19:02 |
| rkukura | thanks SumitNaiksatam! | 19:02 |
| banix | agree but that discussion seems to be happning outside the ML I am afraid …. | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: my suggestion would be that we should treat this as an evolving process and formulate the policies as we go along | 19:02 |
| rkukura | banix: I’m not sure the discussion is really happening at all ;) | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but we need to get started, else we are discussing in a vaccuum | 19:03 |
| mandeep | banix: Yes, let us follow up on that issues on the ML thread | 19:03 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: +1 | 19:03 |
| banix | rkukura: i wont be surprised if that is the case. | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok thanks all | 19:03 |
| banix | sorry for logging in in the middle of the call. talk to you all later. | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 21 19:04:08 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-08-21-18.03.html | 19:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-08-21-18.03.txt | 19:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-08-21-18.03.log.html | 19:04 |
| rkukura | bye! | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: thanks for joining from 6k miles away | 19:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | banix: regards to your family, and dont work too hard! ;-) | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: spend time with family :-) | 19:04 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: thanks! | 19:04 |
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