Thursday, 2014-08-28

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mesteryAnyone here to review Neutron BPs with me? :)12:58
carl_baldwinmestery: hi12:59
mesterycarl_baldwin: Morning Carl, thanks for joining this morning, I know it's early for you :)12:59
ajohi :)12:59
mesteryajo: Hi!12:59
ajothanks carl_baldwin12:59
ajohow early? :)12:59
obondarevo/12:59
mesteryobondarev: Oleg, hey, how are you doing?12:59
obondarevmestery: Hey, great, thank you!13:00
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carl_baldwinNot that early really.  7am.  But, I’m not an early riser.  :)13:00
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ajohi amuller :)13:00
amullerajo: yo13:00
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ajocarl_baldwin, Yeah, if you go to sleep late it's a bit early13:01
mesterymarun salv-orlando amotoki: Around?13:01
salv-orlandoaloha13:01
mestery#startmeeting neutron-juno-3-bp-review13:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 28 13:01:34 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:01
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marunmestery: yes13:01
mestery#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-juno-release Etherpad to track reviews for the team13:01
salv-orlandoI will be around for 30 minutes only13:01
mesterysalv-orlando: Thanks for joining us, hopefully we can be done in 30 minutes ;)13:02
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mesterySo, the goal of this gathering is to review the BPs listed in that etherpad13:02
mesteryAnd to get any high level issues out now to try and ensure we can merge these before feature freeze.13:02
mesteryI've placed all the reviews I'm aware of for each BP in that etherpad13:02
mesteryIf I've missed any, please go ahead and add them there13:02
mesteryWe can use this to track them given the load on the gate13:03
marunI'm going through the l3 ha reviews one-by-one and since I'm in the same tz as assaf hope to contribute to it getting merged13:03
mesterymarun: Excellent, thank you!13:03
mesterymarun: Any large systemic issues you've uncovered so far?13:03
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marunmestery: nothing yet, the difficulty is in testing but amuller has some ideas on how to do more with functional13:04
mesterymarun amuller: Excellent!13:04
mesteryIf I'm not mistaken, L3 HA plays a role in the DVR story as well, right carl_baldwin?13:04
carl_baldwinI’ve been through a round of reviews on them myself.  Uncovered a few bugs but I think they’ve been addressed in recent updates.13:04
amullerThey have13:04
mesteryAwesome, thanks for your work on these amuller13:05
* amuller is being paid13:05
carl_baldwinmestery: There are some outstanding issues with HA and DVR together.13:05
amuller=D13:05
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mesterycarl_baldwin: Are those tracked as bugs? If so, lets add the bugs/reviews to the etherpad13:05
salv-orlandocarl_baldwin: but DVR does not require HA or vice versa is that right?13:05
amullersalv-orlando: no13:05
amulleryou can create a router as either HA or distributed right now13:05
amullertogether doesn't work, but it should / is planned13:05
mesteryamuller: Is there a bug tracking that?13:06
amullermestery: not yet13:06
mesteryamuller: OK, thanks :)13:06
carl_baldwinmestery: I will ensure the bugs exist today and are added to the etherpad.13:06
mesterycarl_baldwin: Thank you sir!13:06
amullermestery: but it will be my top priority, to integrate HA and DVR, once we get the HA code merged13:06
mesteryOK, so I feel as if L3 HA is in good shape, anything else to cover for that one?13:06
mesteryamuller: ack13:06
mestery#info L3 HA is in good shape, marun and carl_baldwin are covering reviews from a core perspective13:07
mestery#info L3 HA and DVR integration to be tracked by bugs and fixed post L3 HA merge13:07
mesteryOK, lets move on to the next BP, ipset13:07
mestery#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/add-ipset-to-security)13:07
carl_baldwin#action carl_baldwin will link bugs to etherpad13:08
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mesteryThe ipset work has seen a few revisions on it's patches already as well13:08
mesteryAs near as I can tell, there are 2 reviews active for this BP13:08
* mestery hasn't looked at them this morning yet13:08
ajoThere's a devstack one that prevents tempest testing from happening yet: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113453/13:09
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ajoWe need ipset installed when devstack is deployed13:09
mestery#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113453/ devstack patch for ipset13:09
ajoI suppose that's the reason shihanzhang was slowed down on that, also, that work is depending on the RPC changes , so it needs a rebase13:10
mesteryajo: Thanks for the link, looks like it has 1 QA +2 already13:10
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ajoyes, I just saw it, that's good,13:10
ajoI will be testing it myself during the start of next week13:10
salv-orlandomestery, ajo: so the sg blueprints are pretty much serialized. But I want both of them merged. I think ipsets will go to ffe - and I’d be ok with it13:11
mesterysalv-orlando: ++13:11
salv-orlandoanybody feels differently? Perhaps from the testing perspective, is the current coverage deemed sufficient?13:11
salv-orlandoI mean the tests we run in tempest for security groups13:11
mesteryajo: Is there functional testing of ipset? I think I saw that but wanted to confirm.13:11
mesteryI have one other concern with ipset: Is it allowed to be turned off so you can revert back to iptables?13:11
ajoNo functional testing for ipset yet, I was waiting on the functional agent framework to be ready to add those.13:12
salv-orlandomestery: I discussed this with shinazhang...13:12
mesteryajo: ack13:12
ajomestery, it can be switched off13:12
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mesteryajo: double ack, thanks13:12
ajoso I believe it's not an high risk, we may ship it disabled by default if merged for J13:12
marunare functional tests planned for ipset bp?13:13
mesteryajo: I was talking to markmcclain, and our conclusion was we'd rather have it enabled by default to sort out bugs, we can always revert the default later if we hit issues.13:13
mesteryDoes that sound ok?13:13
amullermestery++13:13
carl_baldwinmestery: +113:13
ajomarun, can't remember I think I proposed it, and I believe we must add those13:13
marunajo++13:13
amullerI think functional testing would boost our confidence (At least mine) so we could enable it by default13:14
mesteryajo: If you have those, can you add the review in the etherpad please?13:14
mesteryamuller: ++13:14
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salv-orlandomarun: I reckon functional tests are interesting there. ipsets is being developed within the current firewall driver afaict.13:14
ajomestery, don't have them, but I can work on them during the testing process at the start of next week13:14
salv-orlandoit seems there is no change in RPC API wrt standard iptables based IPset13:14
mesteryajo: OK, thanks!13:15
salv-orlandobeyond the other change from ajo of course13:15
mesteryOK, so ipset looks to have a bit of work left here I think13:15
mesteryBut looks like we can get a FFE if needed, I would support that as salv-orlando indicated.13:16
mesteryShall we move to the next one?13:16
mestery#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/security-group-rules-for-devices-rpc-call-refactor) Security Group RPC refactor13:16
mesteryI think this one needs to merge before ipset, per salv-orlando's comment13:17
ajocorrect13:17
mesterysalv-orlando: I think amotoki has some patches which may affect this as well, isn't it so?13:17
mesteryStarting here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115799/13:17
salv-orlandomestery: we’re just smotthing the last details there and amotoki’s patches are pretty much a prerequisite13:17
mestery#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115799/13:17
mesterysalv-orlando: The first one in amotoki's series failed jenkins, I have rechecked it this morning13:17
salv-orlandorpc versioning was a bit messed up - not ajo’s fault. amotoki’s fixed it13:17
ajoyes, the versioning issues have been ironed out but need to be reviewed in conjunction with amotoki's patch13:18
salv-orlandomestery: yup horizong has been crashing the gate yesterday13:18
mesterysalv-orlando: ack13:18
salv-orlandoI think if we keep an eye on both amotoki’s and ajo’s patches we can manage to merge by the end of the week13:18
ajosalv-orlando, if it's clear amotoki's patch will merge, I believe we should rebase the SG RPC work on top now13:18
mesterysalv-orlando: Agreed13:19
mesteryajo: His first patch should go in today, I think his other ones are close too13:19
salv-orlandoajo: that was an implicit assumption for me ;)13:19
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salv-orlando2nd and 3rd were ok for me ; 4th has a few nits, but nothing worrying13:19
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mestery#info The plan is to merge amotoki's RPC refactor patches and the SG RPC refactor patches by end of the week13:19
mesterysalv-orlando: ++13:20
obondarevactually amotoki's first patch in the series was already merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115798/13:20
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mesteryobondarev: Thanks for the clarification, it's his second one which hit jenkins failure :)13:20
ajosalv-orlando, I tested all the scenarios and combinations of neutron-server / openvswitch-agent during upgrades, and all worked13:20
ajoThe auto-detection of old rpc, and fallback works very well13:21
mesteryOK, we made it through the list in 20 minutes, nice work team. :)13:21
mesteryAny other things to discuss in the 10 minutes we have left?13:21
* mestery just made the meeting 30 minutes right there13:21
ajoI would like to ask about this: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/agent-child-processes-status,n,z13:21
mestery#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/agent-child-processes-status,n,z13:21
mesteryajo: This is medium priority, and would be a nice enhancement I think13:22
ajoI'm happy with the status, and I may only change ProcessesManager class name into ProcessesMonitor13:22
mesteryLooks to have some core +2s on a few patches already13:22
salv-orlandoajo, mestery: I think what we would like to have beyond a process monitor is the ability of reflect failures in processes in object status13:22
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salv-orlandoie: a subnet with dhcp enabled whose dnsmasq crashes - should be in error state13:23
salv-orlandoor down or whatever.13:23
salv-orlandothis is probably orthogonal to ajo’s work. I need to re-read the spec.13:23
ajosalv-orlando, I could follow up doing that for K, sounds reasonable13:23
mesteryajo: ++13:23
salv-orlandoanyway I said this because I’m a boring pedant guy13:23
mesterysalv-orlando: Of course ;)13:24
ajonah, makes sense to have such info centralized at neutron-server ;)13:24
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mestery#info salv-orlando to re-read process monitor spec and coordinate response with ajo13:24
salv-orlandosalv-orlando jlibosva and akamishnikova also have worked on a blueprint for consolidate db migrations13:24
salv-orlandoit’s a lot of code - but it’s easy to review13:24
mestery#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/reorganize-migrations13:24
mesterysalv-orlando: That one?13:24
salv-orlandomestery: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/reorganize-migrations,n,z13:25
salv-orlandoyup that one13:25
mestery#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/reorganize-migrations,n,z13:25
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mesterysalv-orlando: OK, this one is also something we should strive to merge13:25
salv-orlandoit basically allows us to get rid of the conditional logic for generating migrations13:25
mesteryAwesome13:25
salv-orlandosalv-orlando: I can +2 the patches where I’m not an author. markmcclain has been reviewing them too.13:25
salv-orlandowe’re addressing a few comments still, but I think they should be ready for the last push by the end of the week.13:26
salv-orlandothat’s all from me13:26
mesterysalv-orlando: I'll work to find some other core +2s on those as well.13:26
mesterysalv-orlando: Thanks!13:26
obondarevsalv-orlando: I was reviewing some too, will continue13:26
mesteryOK, anything else or shall we end this 4 minutes early?13:26
* markmcclain demands is goes longer since he showed up late13:27
mesterymarkmcclain: hahahahah13:27
mesterymarkmcclain: That's what logs are for ;)13:27
ajo:-)13:27
markmcclainsorry… I'll ready the scrollback to catchup13:27
salv-orlandowhat about other high bluepritns such as lbaas improvement, ml2 hierarchial?13:27
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* salv-orlando has no idea of how many spelling errors the last word had13:27
mesterysalv-orlando: ml2 hierachichal is in decent shape, I don't see rkukura here to comment though13:28
* mestery mispelled in a different way13:28
mesteryLBaaS V2 is likely to land in the incubator salv-orlando13:28
mesteryLets keep the focus for the next week and try to merge the features we all discussed here13:28
haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/70090/ ?  I know you just moved the blueprint out of J-3 but i'm trying to update the review, just hitting alembic migration issues13:28
mesteryThe gate is under heavy load, lates take advantage of cores in non-US timezones when we can :)13:28
salv-orlandomestery: I know that. it’s just that keeping it high in launchpad for j-3 sets expecation in users13:29
mesterysalv-orlando: Ah, got it, well, once markmcclain and I get the incubator up, we'll adjust things. But I see your point.13:29
mesteryhaleyb: I moved that out of Juno-3 because of the lack of movement, it would be hard for me to move it back in at this point. :(13:29
salv-orlandoin the last minutes i think that if anybody has a point for raising priority of low blueprints they should make it on the ML ASAP13:29
salv-orlandoI’m receiving pings from contributors and I keep saying that I need to give priority to medium/high blueprints13:30
mesterysalv-orlando: I think at this point we need to focus on the medium/high stuff13:30
haleybmestery: well, maybe if i can get it to pass jenkins you'll reconsider?  it's not a big change13:30
mesteryand spend cycles on low only if time allows13:30
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mesteryhaleyb: Lets talk offline, we could do that if you get it moving again13:31
* mestery does not it's a small change.13:31
salv-orlandomestery: agreed. This is what I will say the next time I’m invited to give a “final push” to a blueprint ;)13:31
mesteryhaleyb: I think it was medium priority as well13:31
devvesaso the place to ask for raising priority is the ML?13:31
mesterydevvesa: Yes.13:31
HenryGI am pretty sure there are some ML2 BPs that they want merged, but you need rkukura to clarify.13:31
* mestery notes salv-orlando and he just opened up the ML to many requests for priority raising now13:31
devvesamestery: ok!13:31
mesteryOK, thanks everyone!13:32
salv-orlandomestery: better the ml2 than direct messages on IRC13:32
mesteryLets see what we can do this week with merging these BPs.13:32
mesterysalv-orlando: ++13:32
salv-orlandoahhh I just wrote ml2 instead of ml13:32
mestery:)13:32
mesteryhahahahahahha13:32
ajothank you all13:32
ajothe secret ml13:32
mesteryAlso, if people hit large issues while reviewing these BPs, please raise the issues quickly in-channel or on the ML13:32
ajo(joking)13:32
mesteryajo: :PO13:33
mesteryajo: :P13:33
ajo:)13:33
mestery#endmeeting13:33
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ajo:D13:34
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marunhi14:57
amullerhiya14:57
amullercarl_baldwin: meeting?14:57
devvesahi14:57
carl_baldwinhi all14:59
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marunhi14:59
carl_baldwin#startmeeting neutron_l315:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 28 15:00:08 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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carl_baldwinmarun: amuller: devvesa: hi15:00
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pcm_hi15:00
amullerhowdy15:00
devvesahi15:00
carl_baldwinSwami, mrsmith, viveknarasimhan, armax, safchain:  ping15:01
armaxcarl_baldwin: pong15:01
carl_baldwin#topic Announcements15:01
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ajohi :)15:01
carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam15:01
mrsmithhi15:02
carl_baldwinFeature freeze in one week.  The gate queues are backing up and reviewer time is at a premium.15:02
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carl_baldwinAny other announcements?15:02
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carl_baldwin#topic Bugs15:03
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carl_baldwinActually, bugs are looking pretty good overall since last week.  No new Highs (or higher).15:03
carl_baldwinLooks like a few Highs have been closed but I’d have to look further to see which ones.15:04
carl_baldwinGood progress.15:04
carl_baldwin#topic neutron-ovs-dvr15:04
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armaxcarl_baldwin: looks like parallel tempest testing for DVR caused a bit of havoc15:05
carl_baldwinThe backlog is looking better than last week.  A few Highs have closed here as well.15:05
carl_baldwinarmax: Can you elaborate.  I did see havoc being wreaked yesterday a bit.15:05
armaxcarl_baldwin: because of random failures caused by bug #135612115:05
armaxcarl_baldwin: it looks like parallel testing exharcebated the effects of that bug15:06
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carl_baldwin#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/135612115:06
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carl_baldwinarmax: So, we got lucky with the first few runs with parallel on?15:06
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armaxcarl_baldwin: to the best of my knowledge all dvr runs without change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115754/ don’t behave well15:07
armaxcarl_baldwin: but I cannot confirm for sure because we haven’t been very educated in kicking off the experimental job on the patches that are relevant for dvr15:07
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carl_baldwinarmax: Yes, we have missed running it on some patches.15:08
carl_baldwinEveryone please run “check experimental” on all of your patch sets.15:09
carl_baldwin… related to dvr at least.15:09
Rajeevwhat outcome should we expect ?15:09
armaxjust patches that may affect DVR yeah, that should suffice15:09
carl_baldwinRajeev: There are four known failures.  Two are fwaas related.15:09
Rajeevcarl_baldwin: ok, everything else should pass, right?15:10
armaxcarl_baldwin: that said, with parallel tempest we have no known baseline15:10
carl_baldwinRajeev: the other two are test_volume_boot_pattern failures.15:10
armaxcarl_baldwin: with parallel testing I have even seen one fwaas test pass15:10
armaxcarl_baldwin: :)15:10
carl_baldwinRajeev: other transient failures have been spotted but not characterized well.15:11
Rajeevcarl_baldwin: thanks, that seems good enough to start with.15:12
carl_baldwinarmax: hopefully we can get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115754/ through Jenkins check soon.  I will review it today.15:12
carl_baldwinarmax: the other outstanding change linked to that bug looks ready to go.15:12
armaxcarl_baldwin: ok15:12
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115837/15:12
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carl_baldwinarmax: do you think it will help the situation?15:13
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armaxthe review you linked is the one review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115754/ depends on15:13
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armaxcarl_baldwin: change 115754 does seem to address the DB lock timeout error15:14
armaxcarl_baldwin: I ran the experimental parallel job twice15:14
carl_baldwinarmax: Ah, I see that.  So, I’ll kick it in to free the way for this one.15:14
armaxand both times I got the usual 4 failures15:14
armaxon any other patch, the experimental job seems to go nuts15:14
Rajeevfor bug #1360395 I have a review ready at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116412/ independent of other defects15:15
carl_baldwinarmax: Okay, this is pretty important.  Let’s give https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115754/ a high priority today.15:15
armaxI think bug wise, DVR looks under control, I can work with Rajeev and the other folks to make further progress, I think for now we can move to the next agenda item15:16
carl_baldwinRajeev: great.  don’t be concerned if it doesn’t get attention right way.  It must be prioritized after the experimental job issues and the High bugs.15:17
carl_baldwinOne more bug:15:17
carl_baldwin#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/135855415:17
Rajeevcarl_baldwin: sounds good.15:17
carl_baldwinrossella_s has posted a patch for this but I have not yet look at it.15:17
armaxcarl_baldwin: it’s on my backlog, it looks like vivek had a first pass15:18
carl_baldwinarmax: good.  Thanks.15:18
carl_baldwinotherwise, I agree with armax.  I think the backlog is under control now.15:19
carl_baldwin#topic l3-high-availability15:19
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carl_baldwinWe had a meeting on this this morning at 1300UTC.15:20
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carl_baldwinI have seen good improvement in the patches recently and I need to do another pass through the reviews.15:20
armaxcarl_baldwin: that was early even for me :)15:20
amullerVery reasonable time for us EMEA folks :)15:21
devvesaindeed15:21
carl_baldwinWith DVR under control, this topic has hit the top of the priority list for feature freeze.15:21
carl_baldwinIn this morning’s meeting, we agreed to merge this with known bugs that make it incompatible with DVR.15:22
carl_baldwinBugs will be filed to address those and they will be worked after feature freeze.15:22
carl_baldwinamuller: What do you have to add?15:23
amullerJust waiting for reviews here... Maru added comments today to the l3 functional test patch and the keepalived patch15:23
amullerwhich I'm sorting now15:23
amullerthe server side patches could use another pass (I fixed all of your comments Carl)15:24
carl_baldwinmarun: Thanks for the reviews.15:24
carl_baldwinamuller: I did look through how you’ve addressed my comments.  I’m satisfied with how you’ve done that.15:25
carl_baldwinI would like to run the code and I’m starting work on a two NN devstack system.15:25
amullercool15:25
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carl_baldwinamuller: You’ve made a lot of progress with these.  Keep up the good work.15:27
amullerThat's it from my end15:27
amullercarl_baldwin: Thanks for the reviews15:27
amullerIf we get this merged I'm going to break in tears15:28
armaxamuller: have we checked with amotoki if patches need to be reworked after his rpc callback refactoring?15:28
amullerarmax: the first one in the series was merged and I rebased15:28
amullerneeded a small change15:28
armaxamuller: I am going to break in tears if this does not merge :)15:28
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amullerarmax: ahh, 100% of tears then, good15:28
armaxamotoki: ping15:29
amullerI hope Sylvain will have a nice surprise when he gets back from his summer vacation and he sees his baby merged :)15:29
amullerit would be nice if Akihiro could go through the latest change in the first server side patch to make sure it fits with this plan15:29
armaxamuller: I am reaching out to him15:29
carl_baldwinamuller: armax: +1  that will be good to get his perspective.15:30
carl_baldwinamuller: Any more to add?15:31
amullernope15:31
carl_baldwinamuller: marun: armax:  Thanks.  You’re great.15:32
carl_baldwin#topic bgp-dynamic-routing15:32
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carl_baldwindevvesa: I want to recognize all the work that you’ve put in to this.  I’ve been really excited to see the work getting done.15:33
devvesathanks15:33
carl_baldwinUnfortunately, review priorities have kept me from giving it the attention it deserves.15:33
devvesaI understand, time is critical now for reviews15:34
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devvesanow I'm maintaining the patches (i hate rebase every-day migrations) and I got some reviews15:34
devvesaso it goes on15:35
devvesaalso I made the wiki page you asked me for testing (i sent a mail, but I don't know if you saw it)15:35
devvesa#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/DynamicRouting/TestingDynamicRouting15:35
carl_baldwindevvesa: I did see that link.  Thanks for that.15:36
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carl_baldwinI think we have to brace ourselves for the reality that this work may have to wait until Kilo opens up.  What are your thoughts?15:36
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devvesait not depends on me anymore15:36
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carl_baldwindevvesa: That is true and fully recognized.15:37
devvesaI understand it, but is better to know it now15:37
matrohonit seems to  be targeted for neutron-incubator too?15:38
devvesamatrohon: yes, it was proposed as one of the extensions15:38
carl_baldwinmatrohon: it was proposed as such but that decision has not been made.15:39
matrohonok thanks15:39
carl_baldwinFirst, neutron-incubator is not yet set up for it.  We need more discussion around the incubator repo.15:39
devvesai think incubator may be a good idea to add features without fit in the tight schedule of integrated release15:39
carl_baldwindevvesa: If done well, it could be a good thing for features like this.  However, I don’t have my head totally wrapped around how it will be done.15:40
devvesaanybody has? :)15:40
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carl_baldwindevvesa: I think that is why it is still in discussion.15:41
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carl_baldwindevvesa: Some of my work I have planned for kilo will integrate with dynamic routing.  I look forward to working on it.15:42
matrohonsame for me :)15:42
carl_baldwindevvesa: anything more?15:43
devvesanothing else15:43
carl_baldwindevvesa: Thanks.  Keep up the good work.15:44
devvesacarl_baldwin: thanks to you, carl15:44
carl_baldwin#topic Open Discussion15:45
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matrohoncan ml3 team give me an opinion on this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/136154015:45
pcm_Can you put  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114345/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116018/ on your review radar?15:45
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devvesasecond one has already +2, right?15:47
pcm_I think they look pretty solid, IMHO.  The latter will introduce the requests-mock package which can be used on other commits15:47
pcm_devvesa: yes, just need another +2.15:47
devvesaoh, I thought second +2 only would be necessary in specs15:47
carl_baldwinpcm_: I have put them on my radar.15:48
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carl_baldwindevvesa: confirm 2 +2s are necessary.15:48
pcm_carl_baldwin: Thanks! I know you're really busy. Appreciate it!15:48
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devvesamatrohon: I'll take a look at yours, I'm more free now :)15:49
carl_baldwinmatrohon: I have put that bug on my radar as well.  I will try to get to it.15:49
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matrohonthanks15:49
marunpcm_: I wonder why the CSR REST client isn't outside of the tree, frankly.15:50
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marunpcm_: release on pypi and save yourself (and us) the headache of in-tree maintenance15:50
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pcm_marun: It was done in tree. probably should be out.15:50
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marunpcm_: not to say that it needs to happen immediately, but please keep it in mind for future.15:51
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pcm_marun: yes. will definitely do that! THanks!15:51
marunpcm_: :)15:51
carl_baldwinmarun: pcm_:  Sounds like it is worth looking in to.  Good suggestion.15:51
devvesaisn't a discussion about put out the tree all the vendor drivers?15:51
pcm_I have to drop off. Thanks all!!!15:51
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devvesaplease do :)15:52
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marundevvesa: there is, but having thinner plugins is a win even if we had a separate plugin repo15:52
amotokiI am thinking to add HA field for router panel in Horizon. It is admin specific feature and once DVR support is merged, it should be really small. thought?15:53
marundevvesa: easier maintenance when we change neutron if vendors don't mix their neutron integration with python integration15:53
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devvesasorry, what do you mean 'mix neutron integration with python integration'?15:55
matrohonamotoki : it seems that DVR is not mandatory for HA support?15:56
carl_baldwinamuller: can you address amotoki ’s question?15:57
amulleryeah15:57
amulleramotoki: HA and 'distributed' routers are not connected15:57
carl_baldwinmatrohon: no, dvr is not mandatory.15:57
amullerI mean you could have a router that's not HA not distributed, HA and not distributed... all 4 permutations15:58
amotokimatrohon: not dependent on directly. i am talking about horizon support code.15:58
amullerahh15:58
amullerthe CLI currently shows only for admins the router attributes (distributed and HA) it would be good if Horizon did this too15:58
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amotokiamuller: yes. i am aware of both reviews in neutron and neutronclient.15:58
amotokiit is one of important community features so I will talk with david horizon ptl.15:59
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amullerGreat :)15:59
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carl_baldwinOur time is up.  Thanks all.16:00
carl_baldwin#endmeeting16:00
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SumitNaiksatamhi18:00
rkukurahi18:00
s3wonghello18:00
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: s3wong: hi18:00
SumitNaiksatamlets get started18:00
s3wongin a real meeting, so may be a bit come and go18:00
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:00
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rms_13hi18:00
SumitNaiksatams3wong: no worrries we will keep it short18:00
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SumitNaiksatamrms_13: thanks for joining18:01
SumitNaiksatam#info agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy18:01
SumitNaiksatami thought we would keep the agenda open today18:01
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SumitNaiksatambut since we have s3wong and rms_13 here, lets get a quick update from them18:02
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rms_13Incubator update/thoughts ?18:02
SumitNaiksatam#topic SG mapping driver18:02
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SumitNaiksatamrms_13: hang on, we will get to that18:02
SumitNaiksatams3wong: are you planning any updates to the patch?18:02
s3wongyes18:02
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s3wongAnn has some comments, and I will update today or tomorrow18:03
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s3wongupdate the patch, that is18:03
SumitNaiksatams3wong: ok great18:04
SumitNaiksatams3wong: what about the update related changes?18:04
s3wongbefore next Thursday?18:04
SumitNaiksatams3wong: the update operation on the rules/contract18:04
SumitNaiksatams3wong: and persisting the association between the SG rules and the policy rules18:04
rkukuras3wong: I intend to review this in detail, but focusing on juno-3 patches right now18:05
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s3wongSumitNaiksatam: rkukura: with incubator, we are still on hook to get everything done by next Thursday18:06
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SumitNaiksatams3wong: not sure about that18:06
rkukuras3wong: ?18:06
s3wongor actually, getting it landed by next Thurs18:06
SumitNaiksatams3wong: we are still going by the J3 time line though18:07
s3wongrkukura: that was a question, not a statement, sorry :-)18:07
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s3wongSumitNaiksatam: yeah, these changes will take time. Not sure I can have them done by next Thurs18:08
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SumitNaiksatams3wong: ok, lets sync up on these18:09
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SumitNaiksatams3wong: so i am assuming the part that you have in right now is tested with UTs, and also functionally?18:09
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: yes18:09
SumitNaiksatams3wong: ok cool18:10
SumitNaiksatams3wong: so you are able to drive an entire workflow from the creation of ep/epgs to associating with contracts containing rules?18:10
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s3wongSumitNaiksatam: the unit test actually does this18:11
SumitNaiksatams3wong: okay :-)18:11
SumitNaiksatamthen its a functional test, anyway, good to know though18:11
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: SG association cannot happen until EPG/EP is associated18:11
SumitNaiksatamyes, i think we should do some functional testing with the point that we are at18:12
s3wongso it was tested as such18:12
SumitNaiksatams3wong: lets sync up, and make sure what we have all works in unison18:12
s3wongSumitNaiksatam: sure18:13
SumitNaiksatams3wong: thanks for the update, while you are at the other “real” meeting :;-)18:13
SumitNaiksatam#topic Horizon update18:13
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rms_13Horizon: Basically no progress. Review is open. Nobody has picked up yet. Knocked couple of doors with no luck. That particular patch is the baseline of how we want to organize templates. Once thats approved, one can move forward with doing grunt work of supporting for remaining objects. (l2, l3 etc)18:13
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: hi18:13
* SumitNaiksatam gives rms_13 the prize for the quickest typed update ever! :-)18:14
rms_13:).18:14
LouisFrms_13: i will review18:14
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: link to the review?18:14
SumitNaiksatamLouisF: great, thanks18:14
rms_13https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93590/18:14
rms_13LoiusF: Thanks18:14
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/9359018:15
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: thanks18:15
SumitNaiksatamtypically horizon tends to lag the other projects18:15
SumitNaiksatamof course, if the feature had already landed in neutron we would have seen a lot more activity18:15
rms_13I figured18:15
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: thanks for persisting!18:16
rms_13Hoping to make it one day :)18:16
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: i think that is the Neutron theme - “hoping to make it one day!” :-)18:16
SumitNaiksatamany questions for rms_13 on Horizon?18:17
rms_13SumitNaiksatam: Private +218:17
rms_13I would like to ask few questions here once we are done with Horizon18:17
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: yes18:18
SumitNaiksatam#topic Heat18:18
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SumitNaiksatamsusaant: hi18:18
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SumitNaiksatamsusaant: i noticed you updated the wiki18:18
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SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111417/18:18
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111419/18:18
susaantSumitNaiksatam: Yes finally got around to that :)18:19
SumitNaiksatamsusaant: good, thanks again to you as well for persisting and staying on message18:20
SumitNaiksatamany questions for susaant on the Heat patch18:20
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SumitNaiksatam#topic CLI/Client18:21
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SumitNaiksatamsongole: anything to discuss here?18:21
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songolenothing much. no updates.18:21
SumitNaiksatamsongole: thanks18:21
SumitNaiksatam#topic API intercept18:22
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SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10990118:22
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SumitNaiksatami reviewed some of this yesterday, and kevinbenton did a very neat job in trying to achieve this with minimal changes18:22
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: would you have time to look at this?18:23
rkukurayes, I’ll make time18:23
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: thanks18:25
SumitNaiksatam#topic Open Discussion18:25
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SumitNaiksatamso i had put a patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109901 to test the waters on how we can decouple a feature like GBP18:25
SumitNaiksatamso as not to have to make changes to the existing neutron “core” code when adding a new feature like GBP18:25
SumitNaiksatami wil be revising that patch based on feedback, hence marked it WIP18:26
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SumitNaiksatamdid not mean to any major surgery of the extension loading code, just wanted to make it surgical engough18:26
rms_13SumitNaiksatam: Did you give the correct link?18:27
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: my bad, thanks for catching18:27
SumitNaiksatam#link Avoid changing constants module when adding new service plugin18:27
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/11699618:27
SumitNaiksatamwrong copy buffer!18:27
SumitNaiksatamanyway that just to lead up to your questions, rms_1318:28
SumitNaiksatamgo ahead, you wanted to ask something earlier18:28
rms_13Yes18:28
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rms_13I want to know incubator update wrt GBP18:28
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rms_132. I want to know nova interatction plans for GBP18:29
rms_13*interaction18:29
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: 1. i would like to know that as well, i am told to follow the mailing list, i think there are two or three threads going on18:29
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: i personally dont have an update beyond that18:30
SumitNaiksatamif anyone else knows more, please feel free to chime in18:30
rms_13SumitNaiksatam: Ok. Unbelieavable but thanks18:30
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: which part is “unbelievable”?18:31
rms_13SumitNaiksatam: Time it takes to reach conclusions18:31
rms_13Anyways18:31
susaantI am not clear how the neutron incubator will play with heat ...18:31
rms_13How do we want to do Nova integration? Do we have one plan in place18:31
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susaantis there any clarity on that?18:32
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: good questions, i think those have been raised before, but fee free to raise them on one of the on going threads18:32
SumitNaiksatamerr sorry, i meant to respond to susaant18:32
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SumitNaiksatam*but feel free to raise them again18:33
SumitNaiksatamrms_13:  on 2. in the first iteration, no changes to nova are required18:33
susaantSumitNaiksatam: ok.18:33
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: since on the nova side we will still be using the port18:33
rms_13SumitNaiksatam: Ok.18:34
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: past that, there are obviously thoughts on how we can integrate better18:34
rms_13For 2nd iteration: nova boot --gbp group-id=x?18:34
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: but i think for that we need the GBP code to stabilize so that we can take the discussion to the nova team as well18:34
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: but duly noted that you are interested in this discussion, and we will follow up once we are past this phase18:35
rms_13SumitNaiksatam: I think that effort can be made parallelized while we stabilizes GBP. Atleast we can get the discussion going with the Nova team once we have full consensus amongst us18:36
rms_13Post 9/4 maybe?18:36
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SumitNaiksatamrms_13: yeah definitely post 9/4, we have to consider the right time after that18:37
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: i think our priority would be the get the first iteration settled, and not distract other teams from what their focus is on in terms of Juno deliverables18:37
rms_13I would like to read thoughts on that so far, if there are any captured.18:37
rms_13Absolutely.18:38
rms_13I am not proposing that at all.18:38
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: yes, you will have to read our minds :-)18:38
rms_13SumitNaiksatam: I just want to discuss that early as I think that will be one beast of an integration if we do it right18:38
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rms_13SumitNaiksatam: Very difficult. Will pass than :)18:38
rms_13Anyways thank you18:39
SumitNaiksatamrms_13: “beast” - really?18:39
LouisFSumitNaiksatam: i had the question on order of services in a service chain used by gbp contract18:39
SumitNaiksatamLouisF: yes sure18:39
LouisFif chain={si, s2} are they applied from consumed epg to produced epg, or vice versa?18:40
LouisFit is not stated anywhere18:40
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LouisFthis is a follow on to my earlier query on the service chain bp18:42
SumitNaiksatamLouisF: yes, and thanks for the follow up18:42
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LouisFregarding order of services and direction of traffic18:43
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SumitNaiksatamLouisF: with regards to the GBP model we are only saying consumed to produced18:44
SumitNaiksatamLouisF: and i believe at that point the semantics of the service chain take over18:44
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LouisFsounds good can we add that to the gbp spec18:44
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SumitNaiksatamLouisF: i think the GBP spec already captures that in terms of the redirect action, but we can certainly add clarifications if required18:46
SumitNaiksatamLouisF: good point to bring up though18:46
SumitNaiksatamanything else for today?18:47
SumitNaiksatamor we can get back 13 minutes to focus on J3 reviews18:47
SumitNaiksatamalrighty, thanks everyone for attending18:49
SumitNaiksatambye18:49
SumitNaiksatam#endmeeting18:49
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