| etoews | hi | 00:00 |
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| elmiko | yo | 00:00 |
| miguelgrinberg | hello, and happy 2015! | 00:00 |
| etoews | #startmeeting api wg | 00:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 8 00:00:36 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is etoews. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api wg)" | 00:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 00:00 |
| etoews | a happy new year to all. :D | 00:00 |
| elmiko | +1 | 00:01 |
| etoews | i get the feeling we might be a bit light on api wg attendees this time | 00:01 |
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| sigmavirus24 | hi | 00:01 |
| etoews | hi! | 00:02 |
| dtroyer | hi | 00:02 |
| etoews | hello! | 00:02 |
| etoews | #topic agenda | 00:02 |
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| etoews | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 00:02 |
| etoews | no new topics so moving right along... | 00:02 |
| etoews | #topic previous meeting action items | 00:03 |
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| etoews | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2014/api_wg.2014-12-18-16.00.html | 00:03 |
| elmiko | i'm still working on the barbican swagger | 00:03 |
| etoews | i didn't get to all of my action items either :( | 00:04 |
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| etoews | sick, holidays, catching up, excuses, excuses. | 00:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: I think we should carry them forward (especially the API definition ones) | 00:04 |
| elmiko | i was going to just convert the wadl, but after talking about it with the barbican folks i want to move ahead on doing it programatically | 00:04 |
| etoews | sigmavirus24: +1 | 00:04 |
| etoews | elmiko: as in programatically building it from the source code? | 00:05 |
| elmiko | etoews: sorta yea, more like using the wsgi object created by pecan and dumping info from there | 00:05 |
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| elmiko | but my pecan knowledge is still growing, so it's taking longer :/ | 00:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | hm. interesting | 00:06 |
| elmiko | that's how i did it for sahara, but in that case we use flask | 00:06 |
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| sigmavirus24 | elmiko: how much of that wsgi object is going to be turned into documentation? | 00:06 |
| miguelgrinberg | isn't this locking us into continuing with Pecan? | 00:06 |
| * miguelgrinberg hopes one day will move to Flask | 00:06 | |
| * sigmavirus24 hopes we never use an April Fool's joke in production /kidding | 00:07 | |
| elmiko | sigmavirus24: for sure we could generate the skeleton docs for routes and methods, and probably schema too | 00:07 |
| miguelgrinberg | sigmavirus24: I think I can read when you are kidding now, took me some time ;-) | 00:07 |
| elmiko | sigmavirus24: things like descriptions might be more hassle, or might not be wanted | 00:07 |
| elmiko | miguelgrinberg: well, sahara uses flask =) | 00:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | elmiko: I guess I'm wondering if something like betamax could help generate data for the docs too | 00:07 |
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| sigmavirus24 | use betamax with a requests session and you have dumps of the request/response cycle for each request and then you can parse that JSON turn it into docs | 00:08 |
| etoews | but we're not generating docs. we're generating api definition. | 00:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | it's an idea I've thought about but never worked with | 00:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: ah, misunderstood the purpose. sorry | 00:08 |
| elmiko | yea, this will generate a skeleton of all the routes and methods(and hopefully schema) | 00:08 |
| etoews | elmiko: just as a starting point right? | 00:09 |
| elmiko | it's possible to pull description type info into the swagger doc as well, but i'm not sure that's desired | 00:09 |
| elmiko | etoews: yes | 00:09 |
| etoews | ya. i'm hoping it's the api def that drives the development of the implementation. not the other way around. | 00:09 |
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| elmiko | etoews: in the end that would be awesome, but baby steps... | 00:10 |
| etoews | +1 baby steps. | 00:10 |
| etoews | okay that's a good point to carry over the action items. | 00:10 |
| etoews | #action etoews update the scope section of the wiki page and include api definition format | 00:10 |
| etoews | #action elmiko to generate swagger doc for barbican and commit to github somewhere | 00:10 |
| etoews | #action etoews start discussion about api def formats on ml | 00:11 |
| etoews | #action sigmavirus24 reply to discussion with benefits moz saw from using an api def format | 00:11 |
| etoews | on the plus side i did get to do some analysis of the metadata design before i got sick. | 00:11 |
| miguelgrinberg | etoews: very good analysis, I might say | 00:12 |
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| etoews | ya. i was hoping to get some feedback about it. | 00:12 |
| etoews | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group/Current_Design/Metadata | 00:12 |
| etoews | so it made sense the way i laid it out? | 00:12 |
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| miguelgrinberg | etoews: I meant to go look at the Heat stuff, because I think metadata there does not mean the same thing | 00:13 |
| miguelgrinberg | but I haven't investigated yet | 00:13 |
| etoews | it was mostly a lot of copy/paste and then squinting to see the patterns. | 00:13 |
| etoews | miguelgrinberg: ya. i noticed that too. from the analysis "The outliers are Orchestration's Software Configuration metadata which seems to describe a concept different from the other services notion of metadata and Object Storage's metadata which does everything with headers." | 00:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: yeah that makes sense the way it is layed out (at least to me) | 00:14 |
| elmiko | etoews: makes sense to me as well | 00:14 |
| etoews | cool. hopefully it catches on. | 00:14 |
| miguelgrinberg | so I think we now use this document and throw darts at me guideline doc? | 00:14 |
| miguelgrinberg | s/me/my/ | 00:15 |
| etoews | right | 00:15 |
| etoews | apologies for not having a chance to give that one a proper review yet. | 00:15 |
| miguelgrinberg | I sided with nova mostly, except for the implementation of the POST | 00:15 |
| etoews | let's discuss it when we get to topic guidelines. | 00:16 |
| miguelgrinberg | should we reconvene about metadata next week? | 00:16 |
| etoews | #topic APIImpact | 00:16 |
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| etoews | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+AND+(message:ApiImpact+OR+message:APIImpact),n,z | 00:17 |
| etoews | seems APIImpact is catching on... | 00:17 |
| etoews | anything anyone want to point out? | 00:17 |
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| miguelgrinberg | I have a more general question. When I did a review I -1'd it. The cinder guys sort of did not like that | 00:18 |
| miguelgrinberg | Should we stay out of it and just comment? | 00:18 |
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| etoews | miguelgrinberg: would you mind linking us to that review/comment? | 00:19 |
| elmiko | that's a bummer... | 00:19 |
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| miguelgrinberg | looking for it, but it was a few weeks ago. It was not direct, I just felt they wanted to get moving, in spite of my recommendation | 00:20 |
| miguelgrinberg | I withdrew my -1 | 00:20 |
| etoews | i see | 00:22 |
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| miguelgrinberg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136253/ | 00:22 |
| miguelgrinberg | My comment on Dec 11 | 00:22 |
| etoews | i can see us running into this more and more in the near future. | 00:24 |
| elmiko | Dave Chen brings up an interesting point about keeping their api internally consistent, i'm curious what the wg opinion should be on these things? | 00:25 |
| etoews | the projects will want to want to remain internally consistent even at the expense of being inconsistent with other projects | 00:25 |
| miguelgrinberg | It's a tough one. At some point we need to break ties with the past. | 00:25 |
| miguelgrinberg | Inconsistencies are inevitable in my opinion | 00:26 |
| etoews | i can certainly understand that point of view but we need people to start converging | 00:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | I've never found a single API (in the world) that is entirely internally consistent | 00:26 |
| elmiko | is there any action we can take to help smooth these transitions? (aside from providing a solid guideline) | 00:26 |
| miguelgrinberg | I think for this it would have helped to have an official guideline, so I think we need to get them ready | 00:27 |
| elmiko | that makes sense | 00:27 |
| etoews | ya. having a guideline we can clearly point to would carry much more weight | 00:27 |
| etoews | the only other carrot that comes to mind at the moment is pointing out other projects that are already following the guideline | 00:28 |
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| etoews | that addresses Dave Chen's "it's not quite sure when will other projects formally follow the new style." | 00:28 |
| miguelgrinberg | should be (I mean I) relax REST compliance and try to write guidelines that match something out there? | 00:29 |
| miguelgrinberg | for metadata, my doc is almost matching nova | 00:29 |
| etoews | for sure you'll get much more traction that way. | 00:29 |
| etoews | i think as long as you're being pragmatic about it, it's for the best. | 00:30 |
| elmiko | i like the idea of moving closer and closer to REST compliance | 00:30 |
| miguelgrinberg | well, it's something we need to decide. Maybe turn a blind eye to small things. This one is a small thing IMHO. | 00:30 |
| elmiko | etoews: +1 | 00:30 |
| sigmavirus24 | practicality beats purity | 00:31 |
| * sigmavirus24 spouts useless neologisms for irony and an appearance of wisdom | 00:31 | |
| etoews | :) | 00:31 |
| elmiko | lol | 00:32 |
| dtroyer | I wouldn't ignore these cases, but just a comment and move on… the comments will eventually add up | 00:32 |
| miguelgrinberg | It's still confusing. Should new projects also be written following the almost RESTful guideline? | 00:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | miguelgrinberg: that would be the ideal | 00:33 |
| miguelgrinberg | or should we allow some sort of grandfathering for older projects? | 00:33 |
| miguelgrinberg | but still recommend the best approach? | 00:33 |
| dtroyer | how about looking at it in terms of API revisions rather than whole projects? | 00:33 |
| dtroyer | although there isn't a compute v3 soon, that would have been the time to fix a lot of stuff, should we have the guidelines ready | 00:34 |
| elmiko | same with sahara v2, we've talked about it at 2 summits now | 00:34 |
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| etoews | miguelgrinberg: IMO new projects should be using the one-and-only guideline. | 00:34 |
| miguelgrinberg | so we document the ideal solution, but mention the "close enough" solutions for legacy projects | 00:35 |
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| etoews | to me that way lies madness | 00:35 |
| etoews | i think it would be confusing to new or existing api implementors. | 00:36 |
| etoews | i think what dtroyer is proposing would work | 00:36 |
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| miguelgrinberg | yes, if we start saying "do this", but if that is too odd for you then "do that", then we are going to lose credibility | 00:36 |
| etoews | yep. people will throw their hands up and walk away pretty quickly. | 00:37 |
| dtroyer | I think the "do this" part is sufficient…it'll be followed or not | 00:37 |
| etoews | rigth | 00:37 |
| elmiko | +1 | 00:37 |
| miguelgrinberg | +1, but that leaves those who want to be consistent with old stuff out | 00:38 |
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| miguelgrinberg | basically we are saying join us or you're on your own | 00:38 |
| elmiko | miguelgrinberg: at least it will provide a path to a possible new version though | 00:38 |
| etoews | but not for the next version of their api? | 00:38 |
| dtroyer | it leaves them where they are today already | 00:38 |
| miguelgrinberg | etoews: true, only until the next rev | 00:39 |
| sigmavirus24 | miguelgrinberg: I think the next large version of an API is really the best place to expect people to start to follow the guidelines | 00:39 |
| miguelgrinberg | yeah, okay, I think I worry too much :) | 00:39 |
| sigmavirus24 | miguelgrinberg: they're going to hate us no matter what we do | 00:39 |
| etoews | no no. it's really good to have these sorts of conversations early on in an effort like this. | 00:39 |
| sigmavirus24 | we're potentially insulting their sensitive egos about the APIs they designed and we're telling them are now deficient in some respect | 00:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | I think it will also save a lot of cross-project contention. I've seen people contributing to other projects get annoyed by having certain hacking checks disabled | 00:40 |
| elmiko | sigmavirus24: that seems like it might be a problem with our communications as some level | 00:40 |
| dtroyer | sigmavirus24: some are always going to be that way…let them be, there are still plenty who are hungry for guidance and commonality | 00:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | dtroyer: that's my point exactly | 00:41 |
| elmiko | ah, not much we can do for those folks though? | 00:41 |
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| etoews | snowflakes be snowflakes | 00:41 |
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| elmiko | lol | 00:42 |
| dtroyer | after 5 years, look at what projects still actively want to do things differently… | 00:42 |
| sigmavirus24 | yep | 00:42 |
| dtroyer | FWIW, I'm fixing those at the language-binding and CLI levels… | 00:43 |
| dtroyer | at least someone's life is going to improve | 00:43 |
| etoews | dtroyer: applying spackle. :) | 00:44 |
| etoews | okay. so we shoot for pragmatic REST...meaning REST but tempered with the current design where it makes sense. | 00:44 |
| etoews | is that a fair statement or too broad to be of value? | 00:44 |
| elmiko | i dunno, that seems to leave the door open for exceptions moving forward. seems appropriate for current stuff though. | 00:45 |
| sigmavirus24 | Thought: What about a migration path. vCurrent+1 = middle-ground, vCurrent+2 = perfect future | 00:45 |
| miguelgrinberg | I think it is fair, we can always improve our guidelines to drive towards closer REST | 00:46 |
| dtroyer | I don't think we should leave the out…our out is that we're writign guidelines, not requirements | 00:46 |
| elmiko | dtroyer: i like the way you put it | 00:46 |
| elmiko | sigmavirus24: sounds interesting to me | 00:46 |
| etoews | right right. there was a reason we didn't call it "standards" in the first place. | 00:47 |
| sigmavirus24 | elmiko: I'm not sure it's a good idea but it might make people more amenable to it | 00:47 |
| sigmavirus24 | Of course that means results will be a lot longer off | 00:47 |
| elmiko | sigmavirus24: understandable, but i feel like the conversation around that idea could produce some useful fruit in terms of actions projects can take | 00:48 |
| dtroyer | sigmavirus24: that might be the reality, but I don't think we should codify that in our work | 00:48 |
| miguelgrinberg | Do we need to wait for two major revs? I'd say vCurrent+1 should shoot for compliance with our guidelines. | 00:48 |
| sigmavirus24 | miguelgrinberg: right, that's what I *want* | 00:48 |
| sigmavirus24 | Anyway | 00:48 |
| elmiko | miguelgrinberg: in an ideal world, yes | 00:48 |
| sigmavirus24 | I think we're wasting a lot of time on this | 00:48 |
| sigmavirus24 | This is perhaps a better discussion for the mailing list | 00:48 |
| elmiko | do i smell an action item? | 00:49 |
| etoews | sigmavirus24: do you want to give yourself an action item for kicking off a discussion on the ml? | 00:49 |
| sigmavirus24 | elmiko: did you just volunteer? | 00:49 |
| elmiko | sigmavirus24: hey, i'm already behind on my action ;) | 00:50 |
| etoews | me too. ;) | 00:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | #action sigmavirus24 will start a discussion on the ML about migrating to API WG standards | 00:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: is the reason I'm behind on mine =P | 00:50 |
| etoews | that's ture | 00:50 |
| etoews | s/ture/true/ | 00:50 |
| etoews | #topic guidelines | 00:51 |
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| sigmavirus24 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145579/ | 00:51 |
| * sigmavirus24 was waiting for this section the whole time =P | 00:51 | |
| sigmavirus24 | This seemed to spawn from a discussion on the ML surrounding how clients sort output from the API, I'm curious what people think of the spec | 00:52 |
| etoews | everything surrounding pagination would benefit greatly from analysis of current design. | 00:53 |
| miguelgrinberg | repeating the same query string args? Isn't that looking for trouble? | 00:53 |
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| sigmavirus24 | miguelgrinberg: it is | 00:53 |
| * sigmavirus24 is glad he isn't the only one who caught that =P | 00:53 | |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: I agree | 00:53 |
| miguelgrinberg | Haven't seen this before, I'll comment on it later | 00:53 |
| etoews | practically every project does it and there are a bunch of inconsistencies. | 00:53 |
| etoews | i comment on it too about current design. | 00:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | Further this will cause issues with python clients consuming this. | 00:54 |
| * sigmavirus24 knows. he maintains requests | 00:54 | |
| miguelgrinberg | yeah, I would use a single key with comma separated keys, for example | 00:54 |
| etoews | #action etoews to comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145579/ about current design analysis | 00:54 |
| sigmavirus24 | I've seen rubby clients have trouble with stuff like this too | 00:54 |
| dtroyer | does the suggestion for the CLI format make sense here too? ie, sort=key1:dir1,key2:dir2 | 00:55 |
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| sigmavirus24 | dtroyer: it could work | 00:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | While we still have time: | 00:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131736/ | 00:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | I think this has a noble purpose but will cause a lot of problems if it were actually to be accepted and (to some degree) enforced | 00:56 |
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| elmiko | is that talking mainly about the URIs or about json objects passed as body as well? | 00:56 |
| miguelgrinberg | he does not say specifically how to achieve that. Simpler JSON bodies? | 00:56 |
| etoews | curl is just another client | 00:57 |
| miguelgrinberg | not one that is specifically friendly to APIs | 00:57 |
| miguelgrinberg | JSON is hard from the cmd line | 00:57 |
| sigmavirus24 | I mean I can curl my way around GitHub's API easily but I don't recommend it | 00:57 |
| elmiko | httpie makes it a little better | 00:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | Some of their resources are huge (especially the collections) | 00:58 |
| miguelgrinberg | elmiko: +1 | 00:58 |
| dtroyer | my feeling is that it was about combinations of URI, headers and bodies… the intent is 'be simple and smart' | 00:58 |
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| elmiko | i think the idea of simplification is nice, but extending to json bodies sounds difficult | 00:58 |
| dtroyer | but it became a time sink…I'm ready to just let it go | 00:59 |
| miguelgrinberg | I would agree with not including tenant ids in URIs whenever possible | 00:59 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yeah I like the *intent* I just don't know how practical it really is | 00:59 |
| miguelgrinberg | but I don't think there is much more that can be done | 00:59 |
| elmiko | i don't like tenant ids in the URI either, taking that out will be a big change for sahara | 01:00 |
| miguelgrinberg | it shouldn't be a problem if we had HATEAOS, but.... | 01:00 |
| etoews | that's a whole other kettle of fish... | 01:01 |
| miguelgrinberg | yeah | 01:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | and we're over time | 01:01 |
| etoews | #endmeeting | 01:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 8 01:01:24 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-01-08-00.00.html | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-01-08-00.00.txt | 01:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-01-08-00.00.log.html | 01:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | Thanks everyone | 01:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | Sorry to drag us overtime | 01:01 |
| etoews | thx! | 01:01 |
| elmiko | yea, thanks =) | 01:01 |
| miguelgrinberg | bye all | 01:01 |
| elmiko | miguelgrinberg: i'm not familiar with HATEOAS, got some new reading | 01:01 |
| etoews | sigmavirus24: not at all. i should have moved us forward earlier. | 01:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: I stirred the pot too much ;) | 01:02 |
| elmiko | lol | 01:02 |
| etoews | :) | 01:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | My real job title: Troll | 01:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | miguelgrinberg: can confirm | 01:02 |
| miguelgrinberg | elmiko: it'll be fun, that could affect the way we document APIs also | 01:02 |
| etoews | and we're stirring one of the biggest pots in openstack. | 01:02 |
| miguelgrinberg | sigmavirus24: I fully confirm :) | 01:03 |
| elmiko | sigmavirus24: lol, i hope you get that on business cards or something ;) | 01:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | elmiko: I'll find you in a separate channel and relate a story =P | 01:04 |
| elmiko | sigmavirus24: nice, find me in openstack-sahara usually | 01:04 |
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| mrsmith | hey Swami | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | hi all | 15:00 |
| pc_m | hi | 15:00 |
| mrsmith | hi carl_baldwin | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 8 15:00:57 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| Swami | hi | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | #info Kilo-2 will be on February 5th | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Bugs | 15:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | Looks like I need to triage a little but I don’t see any new bugs to discuss | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin to triage new bugs | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic L3 Agent Restructuring | 15:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | I’ve been making a lot of progres on this this week. | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143733 is about ready to merge I think. | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: ping | 15:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | Yesterday, I started teasing out fip namespace logic. I would like eyes from Rajeev, mrsmith, and other dvr expertise here. | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145565/ | 15:08 |
| mrsmith | sure - no prob | 15:08 |
| Swami | I will take a look at it | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: Swami: thanks. | 15:09 |
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| pc_m | Can use review of FW refactoring: #link https://review.openstack.org/140884 | 15:10 |
| pc_m | Will then work on event handlers with SridarK | 15:11 |
| carl_baldwin | I think my patch changes the logic a bit. I think it better acknowledges multiple external networks. | 15:11 |
| mrsmith | Swami and I are working thru issues already with multiple ext nets and dvr | 15:11 |
| mrsmith | all these refactors make for busy reabses | 15:12 |
| mrsmith | :) | 15:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: I know. That’s why I want eyes on it right away. It proved too difficult to do the floating ip refactoring without first working on the fip namespace. | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: I will look today. | 15:13 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Thanks! | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140884/ | 15:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: Swami: feel free to ping me with your concerns. How has multiple ext-net progress been going? | 15:18 |
| Swami_ | carl_baldwin: we have a couple of patches that we are working on right now. | 15:18 |
| mrsmith | good - definitely need some dvr agent changes | 15:18 |
| Swami_ | The final one is the "floatingip-namespace" correction. I am currently working on it. | 15:18 |
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| carl_baldwin | Do you have links to the patches handy? | 15:19 |
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| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142674/ | 15:20 |
| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143567/ | 15:20 |
| Swami_ | These two above patches fixes the current exceptions that are raised. | 15:20 |
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| Swami_ | As I mentioned we found an issue with the FIP namespace creation issues when there are more than one external network. | 15:21 |
| mrsmith | the main issue is handling separate fip-namespaces for each ext net | 15:21 |
| Swami_ | We are working on it and when we have a wip I will push it in. | 15:21 |
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| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: You will definitely want to check out this patch in that context: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145565/ | 15:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | Hopefully we’re not going in incompatible directions. | 15:23 |
| mrsmith | carl_baldwin: okay | 15:23 |
| mrsmith | as you know, refactoring and bug fixing can be hard to do at the same time :) | 15:23 |
| mrsmith | but we have to make progress on the refactoring | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: I do know. That is why I’m trying to call attention to what I’m doing very quickly rather than waiting to post the final result later. | 15:25 |
| mrsmith | +1 | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: Swami_: Yesterday afternoon, I added this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145565/3/neutron/agent/l3/dvr.py L46 | 15:25 |
| Swami_ | +1 | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | The new fip namespace class takes the external network id. Multiple instances are created. This was something that the old code wasn’t careful about. | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | Anyway, we should move on. Please ping me with your concerns. | 15:27 |
| mrsmith | yes - or just plain ignorant... adding an array is something Swami and I were thinking of | 15:27 |
| mrsmith | yup - thanks for working on this as always carl_baldwin | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: Anything else? | 15:28 |
| Swami_ | carl_baldwin: Just looking at your changes in the fip patch. | 15:28 |
| pc_m | no, i'm all set. | 15:28 |
| Swami_ | That was exactly what we were thinking on | 15:28 |
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| Swami_ | I will review your patch completely, test it and will provide my inputs. | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami_: At least we’re thinking along the same lines. I will appreciate that. | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ipam | 15:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: hi | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: ping | 15:30 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: hello | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | All the relevant blueprints are in good shape, I think. | 15:30 |
| johnbelamaric | yes. what do we need to get your interface merged? | 15:31 |
| johnbelamaric | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134339/ | 15:31 |
| johnbelamaric | most of our team was out for the holidays but we should be able to get going on refactor soon | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: I was hoping to see salv-orlando’s work show up as a dependant patch sometime soon. | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Also, seeing a start on the refactoring of neutron as a dependent patch soon would be nice. | 15:33 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: ok | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | I was thinking that starting both those efforts may show where the interface is deficient. | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: What do you think? | 15:35 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: yes, good point - we'll get started ASAP | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: great! | 15:36 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: might be conflicts with salv-orlando's work, but we will resolve when we see that | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: I’ll watch out for conflicts. Initially, there shouldn’t be much conflict as salv-orlando will be working on mostly new code. | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: anything else to discuss? | 15:38 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: right, but depending if he works on integrating it to the existing Db plugin. anyway, the bulk should be non-conflicting | 15:38 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: nope | 15:38 |
| salv-orlando | I am not sure I am working on new code. I am moving existing code into new places | 15:38 |
| salv-orlando | also - I am doing work dependent on patch #134339 and contextually removing existing IPAM logic in db_base_plugin_v2 | 15:39 |
| salv-orlando | nevertheless we should not stop each other fearing conflicts. Let's work independently and fix the conflicts when they arise | 15:39 |
| johnbelamaric | salv-orlando: ok, will do | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: ok. I misunderstood a bit. I guess I thought that you would create new code without moving out the old implementation at first. But, I’m okay with this too. | 15:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: agree about conflicts. | 15:41 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: If I did so then we would have the new and old implementation at the same time - with the new one untestable beyond unit test. Nobody would let us merge that. | 15:41 |
| salv-orlando | But on the other hand we can still have a 3rd patch in the same patch series which does the cleanup in neutron and hooks the new logic | 15:42 |
| salv-orlando | I mean does the "glueing" | 15:42 |
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| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: I’ll let you go about your business. Don’t want to tell you how to get it done. | 15:42 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: Anything else to update? | 15:43 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: you can I won't get offended | 15:43 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: I have nothing else on IPAM or anything l3 | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: thanks for the update. I look forward to the ipam patch(es) | 15:44 |
| salv-orlando | I am dealing with the aftermath of setting dnsmasq minimum requirement to 2.67, but that's not something that should concern you here ;) | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: I saw that going on. Hope you get that straightened out without too much trouble. | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: johnbelamaric thanks. | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ovs-dvr | 15:45 |
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| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: there is no trouble unless you have consumers insisting on using ubuntu 12.04 ;) | 15:45 |
| Swami_ | carl_baldwin: I need to drop off, mike will provide the update on dvr | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami_: thanks | 15:46 |
| mrsmith | we already talked about multi-ext-nets | 15:46 |
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| mrsmith | Rajeev and I are making progress on dvr-l3-ha | 15:46 |
| mrsmith | keeping up with the refactoring | 15:47 |
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| Rajeev_ | Links to patches : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139686/ | 15:47 |
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| * carl_baldwin is just making life difficult everywhere for you, isn’t he? | 15:48 | |
| Rajeev_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143169/ | 15:48 |
| mrsmith | just keeping things interesting carl_baldwin ;) | 15:48 |
| mrsmith | dvr-l3-ha is still wip | 15:48 |
| Rajeev_ | carl_baldwin: our turn will come too :) | 15:48 |
| mrsmith | but we are close | 15:48 |
| mrsmith | the l2pop patch seems stalled | 15:49 |
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| mrsmith | to fix l3-ha running with l2pop | 15:49 |
| mrsmith | we will need that to get fixed for dvr-l3-ha to work | 15:49 |
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| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: link handy? | 15:50 |
| mrsmith | no.... let me try to find it | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev_: Did you see the discussion earlier on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145565 ? | 15:51 |
| Rajeev_ | carl_baldwin: no, but I will take a look at it and catch up from mrsmith | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev_: I would value your feedback on it. | 15:51 |
| Rajeev_ | carl_baldwin: will do | 15:52 |
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| mrsmith | here is the stalled l2pop patch: | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev_: regarding HA/DVR, have you seen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143733 ? | 15:53 |
| mrsmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141114/ | 15:53 |
| Rajeev_ | carl_baldwin: This is the refactoring into derived classes for dvr agent side. | 15:54 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141114/ today | 15:55 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev_: Yes. I’d value some feedback in the context of enabling dvr with ha. | 15:55 |
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| Rajeev_ | carl_baldwin: will take a look with mrsmith as he is focusing on agent side ha dvr work. | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | I’d also like amuller to take a look but I’ve just heard he’ll be out for a week. | 15:56 |
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| mrsmith | carl_baldwin: fyi I think I've already hit some oddities while using mixins and trying to implement ha and dvr | 15:57 |
| mrsmith | so the derived classes may help | 15:57 |
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| carl_baldwin | We’re about out of time. I’ve got to be offline to get in to the office but should be around the rest of the day. | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks for all of your work. Let’s communicate often during this refactoring. We’ll get through it and I think we’ll be better off for it. | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 8 16:00:22 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-01-08-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-01-08-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-01-08-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| banix | hi | 18:01 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:01 |
| s3wong | hello | 18:01 |
| banix | GBP meeting wasn’t canceled or was it? | 18:02 |
| rkukura | don’t think so | 18:03 |
| s3wong | banix: don't know, and I don't see SumitNaiksatam online... | 18:03 |
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| rkukura | I just sent him an email. | 18:04 |
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| s3wong | and banix has left :-) | 18:05 |
| banix | no i am here :) just got disconnected | 18:05 |
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| banix | great job you all for getting the first release | 18:06 |
| rkukura | he says he’s in | 18:06 |
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| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hi | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | some issue with my client, perhaps because of the VPN | 18:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i kept pinging everyone but i dont think you saw it | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: mageshgv s3wong banix: hi | 18:07 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: hello | 18:07 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 18:07 |
| ivar-lazzaro | hi | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | apologies for the delay, lets get started | 18:07 |
| mageshgv | sumitNaiksatam: hi | 18:08 |
| yapeng_ | hello :) | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 8 18:08:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:08 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy#Jan_8th.2C_2014 | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | oh firstly, Happy New Year to all (our first meeting of the year)! | 18:09 |
| banix | Great job you all for getting the first release out | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: thanks | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | good segue | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic GBP Release | 18:09 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | indeed, congratulations to the team! | 18:10 |
| ivar-lazzaro | yeah! | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: mageshgv: you guys did some enormous amount of heavy lifting towards the end, BIG thank you! | 18:10 |
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| rkukura | +2 | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura is also making excellent progress with the packaging, but will come to that in the next topic | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just want to give it a few minutes here to digest exactly what is in the release | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we put some very basic release notes here: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GroupBasedPolicy/ReleaseNotes/Juno | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this is missing the bit on the “external connectivity” model | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | among other things | 18:13 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so once we add those details and (rkukura is done with the fedora packaging) i think we should be ready to formally announce the release | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thoughts? | 18:14 |
| * ivar-lazzaro looks around | 18:14 | |
| rkukura | sounds good to me | 18:14 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: I can take care of the external connectivity (or at least I can help if someone else is brave enough to volunteer :) ) | 18:15 |
| yapeng_ | SumitNaiksatam: sounds great, will there any debian package activity for Juno release? | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i will not take the bait ;-) | 18:15 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: :D | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng_: hi | 18:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng_: yes, mandeep has release the release candidates to PPA | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | one sec, let me post the link | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://launchpad.net/~group-based-policy-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 18:16 |
| yapeng_ | SumitNaiksatam: thanks. | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | you will see the release tarballs here | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | he just did not get a chance to post it, but its ready | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng_: thanks also for your fantastic effort on the ODL front! | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yapeng_: and for keeping the devstack branch in sync through all the churn | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | at some point (sooner than later) we will target the installers as well | 18:19 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | but first get the packages in place, and then the installers | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | currently the easiest way obviously is to use devstack | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any thoughts/comments/suggestions/questions on the release details on the process? | 18:20 |
| rkukura | Using RDO will be the easiest by the end of today, I think | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ah ok | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: packaging next topic coming up | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic GBP Packaging | 18:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | like i mentioned earlier, rkukura has been deligently pursuing the fedora/RH side of things | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: over to you | 18:21 |
| rkukura | OK | 18:22 |
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| rkukura | The final server package for Fedora rawhide (f22) is at https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/x86_64/os/Packages/o/openstack-neutron-gbp-2014.2-1.fc22.noarch.rpm | 18:22 |
| rkukura | So anyone running f22 can just do “yum install openstack-neutron-gbp”. | 18:22 |
| rkukura | The other three packages (CLI, UI, automation) are still based on the latest RCs, but should all be updated to final releases today. | 18:23 |
| rkukura | The horizon integration works, but the Red Hat Horizon maintainer may think we should be doing some things a bit differently. I’ll continue to work with him on this, but I hope my current approach will be acceptable for now. | 18:24 |
| rkukura | So I’m building all these packages for Fedora 20, 21, and 22, as well as EPEL7 which should work on RHEL 7 and CentOS 7. | 18:25 |
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| rkukura | Until GBP gets incorporated into RDO, these packages can be installed manually on top of an existing RDO deployment on any of those platforms. | 18:25 |
| rkukura | I’ll update the RDO GBP wiki instructions once all packages are ready. | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: awesome | 18:26 |
| rkukura | Then we’ll work with Red Hat to get the packages included in RDO, which will make things a bit easier. | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so they did not like the Horizon sub packages? | 18:26 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: The sub package is needed, but they also do some stuff with compressing stuff and may have a different way of installing the panels that what we are currently doing. | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: oh ok | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i guess we learn :-) | 18:27 |
| rkukura | I think we should be able to update to our release tarballs with the existing approach, then figure out whether we need to change something for in an update to Juno and/or in our Kilo versions. | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok | 18:28 |
| rkukura | We’ll also need to get working on puppet support that can be used by RDO’s packstack and foreman installers. | 18:28 |
| rkukura | That’s it for me. | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, once we have the packages we can do that | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: for puppet, i am guessing we have to push some patches somewhere, to where is that? | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: and for foreman as well | 18:29 |
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| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I think we need to start with patches to the upstream puppet modules | 18:30 |
| rkukura | Unless RDO has forks of these, but I think upstream first will be the way to go | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: is upstream in stackforge or something totally different? | 18:31 |
| rkukura | Then packstack and foreman will need to be patched to use the updated puppet modules | 18:31 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Not sure. | 18:31 |
| rkukura | Would be great to get someone with some puppet experience involved in that. | 18:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: sure, i had done bit of puppet before, but have forgotten since | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: but we have ratnakar in the team, lets check with him once we are done with the packaging | 18:33 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: right | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | anyone else wanting to take a stab at it, you are more than welcome! | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura but the cool thing is you were able to test end-to-end with the UI packages on fedora, right? | 18:33 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: definitely! | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: nice | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other questions for rkukura or packaging in general? | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so fedora packages today, right? | 18:35 |
| rkukura | that’s the plan, unless the person at Red Hat insists we hold off on the horizon integration | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ah ok, got it | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic GBP Kilo | 18:35 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so at this point we have two branches | 18:36 |
| rkukura | Anyone want to test the RDO instructions when I’ve updated them? | 18:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #undo | 18:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: definitely | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you will be updating the wiki page? | 18:36 |
| rkukura | yes | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://openstack.redhat.com/Neutron_GBP | 18:37 |
| rkukura | I’ll update it to include the horizon and heat parts, and with links to the final RPMs | 18:37 |
| KrishnaK_ | rkukura: I can spend time with RDO testing ... | 18:37 |
| rkukura | KrishnaK_: great - thanks! | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | all installation instructions are currently linked from: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GroupBasedPolicy#Try_Group-based_Policy | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | KrishnaK_: thats great, and also thanks to you for fix bugs, even during the official shutdown! | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic GBP Kilo | 18:39 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so as i was saying - at this point we have two branches | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | master continues to Kilo | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and we have stable/juno | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so any bug fixes can be backported | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | standard process like other projects | 18:40 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we already have a few blueprints proposed which we delayed on account of this release | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is louis or cathy here? | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | my bad, i have not fixed the specs repo for a UT failure, so havent created the kilo directory yet | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | will do | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think most of us have been pretty much heads down into the release effort, did not get much chance to plan beyond that | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything to discuss here? | 18:42 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: hi, great timing | 18:43 |
| bouthors | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: we were just touching on the topic of kilo blueprints | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: we are just wrapping up the Juno release, and Kilo branch is open | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: hopefully we will get to reviewing the specs soon and making progress | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: feel free to post code patches if you have gotten that far | 18:44 |
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| bouthors | SumitNaiksatam:ok | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: and we can sync up offline as well | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:45 |
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| bouthors | How can we sync up with ODL GBP on L7 extensions ? | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: sure | 18:46 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: you mean leverage current ODL GBP integration? | 18:47 |
| bouthors | yes | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: okay, one thing i would suggest is deploying based on the instructions provided by yapeng: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GroupBasedPolicy/InstallODLIntegrationDevstack | 18:48 |
| bouthors | SumitNaiksatam: I will have a look | 18:48 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: once you are at that point, it might be easier to have an informed discussion, since that way you will know exactly what is available today | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: and we can explore how we can extend that in implementation to match the L7 classification spec | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: we can involve some of the folks on the ODL side as well | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: sound okay? | 18:49 |
| bouthors | SumitNaiksatam: excellent. This gives me a way to go | 18:49 |
| bouthors | SumitNaiksatam: excellent. This gives me a way to go ahead | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bouthors: cool | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | at my end, i wanted to propose an addition to the GBP core team | 18:50 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv has contributed an enormous amount, and is very familiar the GBP codebase, so i would like to propose him to the GBP core team | 18:51 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: +1! | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | what does the team think about it? | 18:51 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: +1 | 18:51 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: +1 for Mageshgv | 18:51 |
| KrishnaK_ | SumitNaiksatam: +1 for Mageshgv | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok great | 18:52 |
| s3wong | +1 | 18:52 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | per standard process, i will send out an email to the openstack-dev with the proposal | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just want to get some preliminary consensus here | 18:52 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | you can respond in the dev ML if you have any objections | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks again mageshgv for the great work! | 18:53 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | thats all i have for today | 18:53 |
| mageshgv | Thanks Everyone !! | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything anyone else want to bring up? | 18:53 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | thanks everyone for joining | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | see you next week! | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 18:54 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: +1 | 18:54 |
| s3wong | bye | 18:54 |
| KrishnaK_ | bye | 18:54 |
| rkukura | bye | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: thanks :-) | 18:54 |
| ivar-lazzaro | ciao! | 18:54 |
| mageshgv | bye | 18:54 |
| bouthors | bye | 18:54 |
| songole | bye | 18:54 |
| rkukura | thanks SumitNaiksatam! | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 8 18:54:48 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-01-08-18.08.html | 18:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-01-08-18.08.txt | 18:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-01-08-18.08.log.html | 18:54 |
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