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| mohankumar | Hi Folks , Need Help ...I wrote some Horizon code and i want to check my code locally . How can i do that ? do i need to merge my changes to opt/stack/horizon ? and rerun devstack | 10:49 |
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| vkmc | mohankumar, simply restart apache to reflect the changes | 10:55 |
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| mohankumar | Hi vkmc ! thanks ..where do i need to copy my changes ... is it to /opt/stack ? | 11:13 |
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| vkmc | mohankumar, so... you make your changes in /opt/stack/horizon | 11:27 |
| vkmc | mohankumar, and then you restart apache (if you are in ubuntu it should be something like 'sudo service restart apache2') | 11:27 |
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| mohankumar | Thanks Vkmc ! will try :) | 11:37 |
| vkmc | mohankumar, np! let me know if that works for you | 11:37 |
| mohankumar | Sure | 11:39 |
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| ativelkov | Courtesy artifacts-meeting reminder: nikhil, ativelkov, mfedosin, sigmavirus24, flaper87 | 14:00 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 14:00 |
| dshakhray | o/ | 14:00 |
| ativelkov | #startmeeting glance-artifacts | 14:00 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 29 14:00:41 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ativelkov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance-artifacts)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_artifacts' | 14:00 |
| ativelkov | Hi folks | 14:00 |
| kragniz | hi | 14:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | Hello everyone | 14:01 |
| ativelkov | Nikhil is ooo today, So, I'll run this meeting | 14:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | Sounds good | 14:01 |
| ativelkov | We don't have much agenda for today, as most of the topics are postponed till nikhil's return: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-artifacts-sub-team-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
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| ativelkov | So, just a quick status update on what's going on | 14:02 |
| * sigmavirus24 listens eagerly as he's been not able to keep up | 14:02 | |
| ativelkov | we are in the middle of migration from our "declarative framework" to oslo_versionedobjects | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | Most important part - the constraints and validation - has to be ported there as they miss that functionality | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | I've made that commit last week and it is on review now | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196041/ | 14:04 |
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| ativelkov | It does not include a complete validation of list/dict fields though, so it has to be added a bit later: for now we almost don't use it in Glance anyway | 14:05 |
| ativelkov | The remaining part - a concept of "immutable" field (i.e. the fields which became read-only based on the state of the owner object) probably has to remain at Glance, as it looks very specific to us | 14:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | That seems like a fair compromise | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | what about json schema generation? will it be in glance too? | 14:07 |
| ativelkov | As soon as this lands, I'll submit a commit which adds oslo-based way of declaring artifact types in parallel with the old ones. We'll have it reviewed (hope flaper87 get some cycles for that) and then we'll drop the old declarative frmwk | 14:08 |
| ativelkov | mfedosin: it depends. As we've decided to get rid of warlock for the client, we (probably) don't need jsonschema at all | 14:09 |
| ativelkov | But this may be changed back (if we want to be backwards compatible with v2 we'll have to introduce something similar to v2's property protection,w hich uses schema) | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | ativelkov, what will replace it? | 14:10 |
| kragniz | when did we decide to get rid of warlock on the client? | 14:10 |
| ativelkov | kragniz: last week on this same meeting | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | kragniz, on the last meeting | 14:10 |
| * kragniz must have been asleep | 14:10 | |
| ativelkov | but that's just a temporary solution for now, just to save some time coding the client | 14:11 |
| ativelkov | So, for now we'll have a "static" client which returns objects with attributes corresponding to generic artifact properties | 14:11 |
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| ativelkov | And all the type-specific attributes placed into "type_specific_proprties" dict of those objects | 14:12 |
| mfedosin | you can chack how it's done here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189860/8/glanceclient/v3/__init__.py | 14:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | ativelkov: mfedosin is it for everything in the client, or just artifacts in the client? | 14:12 |
| mfedosin | just artifacts | 14:13 |
| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: well, for now v3 client is going to have only artifacts :) | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | yep, tasks and metadefs may use schemas | 14:13 |
| ativelkov | This expects the clients of projects which consume particular artifact types (python-muranoclient, python-heatclient etc) to use glance-client to fetch the artifact information and form their proper objects, given that they know the schema | 14:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | Right | 14:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | I think kragniz thought warlock was completely gone =P | 14:14 |
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| ativelkov | I'd prefer it to go, as it is now supported anymore | 14:14 |
| ativelkov | Or at least it seems so :) | 14:15 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Yep. Anyway that's a separate topic and I don't want to derail the meeting :D | 14:15 |
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| ativelkov | Yup, that sounds like a good topic for mid-cycle meetup | 14:15 |
| ativelkov | More good news: I participated in last week's IRC meeting of Community App Catalog team | 14:16 |
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| mfedosin | and they want us :) | 14:16 |
| ativelkov | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2015/app_catalog.2015-06-25-17.01.log.html | 14:16 |
| ativelkov | yup, they are considering Glance V3 to become their backend at some point of time | 14:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | As you predicted at the summit =P | 14:17 |
| mfedosin | sigmavirus24, they had concerns actually | 14:18 |
| ativelkov | So, we'll make some kind of PoC for them to demonstrate how Glance handles their current data | 14:18 |
| mfedosin | but it's okay now | 14:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | mfedosin: ah good to know | 14:18 |
| ativelkov | We need to align their request with our roadmap - and have them help us to work on API improvements | 14:18 |
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| ativelkov | Their primary requests are import/export of artifacts and dynamic artifact references | 14:19 |
| ativelkov | (i.e. ability to reference artifacts not only by static IDs but also by name and version range) | 14:19 |
| mfedosin | nothing of that isn't done yet :( | 14:19 |
| ativelkov | mfedosin: well, dynamic references are relatively easy to do | 14:20 |
| ativelkov | Unlike import/export | 14:20 |
| mfedosin | agree, but import/export is a big task | 14:20 |
| mfedosin | since we still have no decision about format | 14:21 |
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| ativelkov | ivasilevskaya has done some import/export PoC shortly before she left, but it definetely needs much more work | 14:21 |
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| mfedosin | definitely we need a volunteer :) | 14:22 |
| * ativelkov voluntols mfedosin | 14:22 | |
| mfedosin | I'm working on the client currently | 14:22 |
| mfedosin | btw, folk,initial commit is ready https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189860/ | 14:23 |
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| ativelkov | Well, we'll see. The client is more important right now, for sure. | 14:23 |
| ativelkov | YEs, some reviews for the client code would be appreciated | 14:23 |
| mfedosin | please review it when you can | 14:23 |
| mfedosin | CRUD part will be done today | 14:23 |
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| mfedosin | and listing on this week too | 14:24 |
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| ativelkov | So, the question is, do you guys think we need a CLI for artifacts now, or this can be postponed a bit till we stabilized the API? | 14:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | ativelkov: I would postpone until we have a stabilized API | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | That said | 14:25 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Landing the majority of the work and updating it wouldn't be a terrible thing | 14:25 |
| mfedosin | sigmavirus24, +1 | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | That means there's a couple large diffs upfront, and then a bunch of small ones | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | The small ones would be much easier to review | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | But it's still more work so | 14:25 |
| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: thanks, sounds reasonable | 14:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | If we can keep the reviews under 400 LOC that'd be great. | 14:26 |
| ativelkov | Yup, that's a lesson learned from the last cycle | 14:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | Cool | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | I appreciate that personally. My brain shuts off after I get past about 600 lines | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | 400 means I can review something else =P | 14:27 |
| mfedosin | yeah, we knew that | 14:27 |
| ativelkov | You can always ignore tests, they are usually boring ) | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | nah, tests are important too | 14:28 |
| mfedosin | so after I'm going to concentrate on our architecture and get rid of domain model. and work on stabilize API too. It means that import/export is not my highest priority | 14:28 |
| ativelkov | Good. And I'll try to prepare a document for API-WG this week, so we may start discussing API-related work | 14:29 |
| mfedosin | ativelkov, sg! | 14:29 |
| ativelkov | We are out of time, BTW | 14:29 |
| ativelkov | So, if there are open questions, let's continue in glance channel | 14:30 |
| ativelkov | thanks all | 14:30 |
| mfedosin | thanks, folks! and please review client commit :) | 14:30 |
| ativelkov | #endmeeting | 14:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 29 14:30:20 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts/2015/glance_artifacts.2015-06-29-14.00.html | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts/2015/glance_artifacts.2015-06-29-14.00.txt | 14:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts/2015/glance_artifacts.2015-06-29-14.00.log.html | 14:30 |
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| j^2 | #startmeeting openstack-chef | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 29 16:00:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is j^2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_chef' | 16:00 |
| j^2 | hey everyone | 16:00 |
| markvan | yo | 16:00 |
| sc` | howdy | 16:00 |
| j^2 | just a reminder here’s the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-chef-meeting-20150629 | 16:01 |
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| j^2 | i’ll give us a couple mins then start | 16:01 |
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| j^2 | #topic <sc`> c7 still requires some modifications to common to start to converge. still working on getting a converge | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "<sc`> c7 still requires some modifications to common to start to converge. still working on getting a converge (Meeting topic: openstack-chef)" | 16:03 | |
| j^2 | it should be the last time we talk abut this right? | 16:03 |
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| j^2 | we have the patches and everything? | 16:03 |
| sc` | we have common and repo patched. need some fixes for mariadb | 16:03 |
| sc` | i've submitted a PR for that | 16:04 |
| j^2 | can you link to it please? | 16:04 |
| sc` | https://github.com/sinfomicien/mariadb/pull/73 | 16:05 |
| j^2 | awesome | 16:05 |
| j^2 | any other update? | 16:05 |
| sc` | that's it for me | 16:05 |
| j^2 | rock on | 16:06 |
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| j^2 | #topic specs.openstack.org | 16:06 |
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| j^2 | I completely dropped the ball on this | 16:06 |
| j^2 | i’ll put it on my todo list for this week, granted being a “short” week, i’ll do my best. It’s not mission critical, but i’ll get it done | 16:07 |
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| j^2 | any other thoughts on this? | 16:07 |
| sc` | given the "short" week, i don't expect much to get done :D | 16:08 |
| j^2 | #agreed | 16:08 |
| markvan | I still agree it's the right place to go | 16:08 |
| j^2 | yep awesome | 16:08 |
| j^2 | #topic How to handle cross project CI testing. | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "How to handle cross project CI testing. (Meeting topic: openstack-chef)" | 16:09 | |
| j^2 | markvan: take it away | 16:09 |
| markvan | k, first patch that went to cover all the cookbooks via the bootstrap: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194747/ | 16:10 |
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| markvan | This will work with existing infra job, but we can consider removing the gerrit-prep step to just use zuul-cloner for everything, but not a high priority | 16:11 |
| markvan | Next patch was to build upon that and make this also work for the repo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196139/ | 16:12 |
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| markvan | the basic idea behind this approach is to pull down the dependent cookbooks and place them in a ..\dir and then point Berks to find that local path. | 16:12 |
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| markvan | I made updated in wiki here to help folks start using it: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Chef/Contributing | 16:13 |
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| markvan | that's it for Depends-On support... | 16:14 |
| sc` | awesome | 16:14 |
| j^2 | :D | 16:14 |
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| markvan | yeah, turned out that zuul-cloner does a pretty good job | 16:15 |
| markvan | just need to melt with with our Berks needs | 16:15 |
| j^2 | yeah infra basicly said the majority of what we were doing zuul-cloner does like most if not all of it | 16:15 |
| markvan | yup, it can handle the dpendencies well....but knows nothing about Berks | 16:16 |
| j^2 | so this dove tails into the new topic of: switch from gerrit-prep to zuul-cloner | 16:16 |
| j^2 | thoughts? | 16:16 |
| j^2 | who put that down? i’m assuming you markvan? | 16:17 |
| markvan | yup, we're still using that basic step to get the base patch downloaded for the gate job. | 16:17 |
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| markvan | so, we would need to remove that step and then tweak the bootstrap to have that patch put in the right dir by zuul-cloner via the map file. | 16:18 |
| markvan | so it would be a 2 part change, but no real hurry on that | 16:18 |
| j^2 | but it’ll make it easier to read in the long run? | 16:19 |
| markvan | I guess I would first like to see some folks use the Depends-On as it is now...and then make that next move | 16:19 |
| markvan | yup, better in the long run | 16:19 |
| j^2 | nice | 16:19 |
| j^2 | yeah i’d really like to see people use the Depends-On way for a while before changing anything else | 16:19 |
| j^2 | i mean there arent a _ton_ of changes that require it but it would be nice to see that people do it correctly | 16:20 |
| j^2 | or something like that | 16:20 |
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| markvan | yup, as cores, we need to watch out for this aspect now, especially for Common changes | 16:21 |
| sc` | Depends-On would be great to see in use. my recent changes would have been a good candidate | 16:22 |
| j^2 | yep | 16:23 |
| j^2 | #topic <markvan> keystone under apache, blueprint patches submitted | 16:23 |
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| j^2 | markvan: :D | 16:24 |
| markvan | yes the patches are in now to provide support. But will don't change the roles to use it until liberty. | 16:24 |
| markvan | And I would like to test a bit more on the centos side once that is in better shape as it might need a tweak for that support. | 16:25 |
| j^2 | cool | 16:25 |
| j^2 | sc`: are you looking at this change at all for keystone? | 16:25 |
| j^2 | (you’re still my main centos guy :P) | 16:25 |
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| sc` | i'll have to spend some cycles looking at it | 16:26 |
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| sc` | i've looked at it a bit on icehouse | 16:26 |
| markvan | sc`: to play with it, just need to make a one line change in the os-identity role | 16:26 |
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| j^2 | cool | 16:28 |
| markvan | let me know if you have questions | 16:28 |
| j^2 | #topic Open Discussion | 16:28 |
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| markvan | is jklare around? How is that periodic CI gate coming along? | 16:29 |
| j^2 | - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194164/ should build it at 6am UTC every day | 16:29 |
| j^2 | - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194181/ to move it from experimental to non-voting in check | 16:29 |
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| j^2 | looks like they are still WIP | 16:30 |
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| markvan | yup, and I think we the non-voting check in there only applies to older branches, and we decided to have it non-voting for master as well to start with, right? | 16:31 |
| markvan | so, still needs a tweak | 16:31 |
| j^2 | yep | 16:31 |
| j^2 | hopefully he’ll be around next week so we can ask him | 16:32 |
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| j^2 | cool, anything else? | 16:33 |
| j^2 | we need more people to show up to this meeting | 16:33 |
| markvan | just a quick comment on stable/kilo branching. | 16:33 |
| j^2 | sure | 16:33 |
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| markvan | Looks like we just have a couple patches left and get the periodic enabled and should branch shortly after that? | 16:33 |
| j^2 | yep | 16:34 |
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| j^2 | but we need to actaully be stable, so i’d like to way a couple weeks after those patches are in | 16:34 |
| sc` | when the kilo packages for centos stabilize, my patch against common and repo will need to come out | 16:34 |
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| markvan | k, just wanted to keep pushing on this, as liberty changes ramp up | 16:35 |
| j^2 | agreed, but i don’t want to hit stable till we actaully can build this | 16:36 |
| markvan | +1 | 16:36 |
| markvan | that's it for me | 16:36 |
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| j^2 | cool | 16:39 |
| j^2 | movement to close the meeting early? | 16:39 |
| sc` | imo, we should probably hold off on branching stable/kilo until the rdo packages solidify | 16:39 |
| j^2 | sc`: i can see that | 16:39 |
| sc` | ironic being the main issue | 16:39 |
| j^2 | ironic is always the issue | 16:40 |
| sc` | :D | 16:40 |
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| sc` | i've got nothing else | 16:41 |
| j^2 | cool | 16:41 |
| j^2 | lets go ahead and call it then | 16:42 |
| j^2 | till next week guys | 16:42 |
| j^2 | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 29 16:42:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-06-29-16.00.html | 16:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-06-29-16.00.txt | 16:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-06-29-16.00.log.html | 16:42 |
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| NobodyCam | gah a little slow here | 17:00 |
| devananda | o/ | 17:00 |
| jroll | \o | 17:01 |
| devananda | #startmeeting ironic | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 29 17:01:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:01 |
| NobodyCam | \o/ | 17:01 |
| rameshg87 | o/ | 17:01 |
| lucasagomes | o/ | 17:01 |
| devananda | good morning/afternoon/evening/night, everyone | 17:01 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:01 |
| rloo | hi | 17:01 |
| devananda | as usual, our agenda is here: | 17:01 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 17:01 |
| devananda | #chair nobodycam | 17:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: devananda nobodycam | 17:02 |
| devananda | #chair NobodyCam | 17:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda nobodycam | 17:02 |
| devananda | #topic announcements | 17:02 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 17:02 |
| devananda | first things first -- the location for the midcycle is confirmed | 17:02 |
| jroll | \o/ | 17:03 |
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| NobodyCam | many thanks to BadCub and devananda for getting that confirmed | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | Along with 6,000 statisticians at the convention center ;) | 17:03 |
| devananda | sorry that it took so long -- I had been emailing folks in the Seattle office to try to arrange it, but basically had to go into the office in person to finish things | 17:03 |
| devananda | which wasn't possible while travelling the last few weeks | 17:04 |
| devananda | so anyway, it's done now. | 17:04 |
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| devananda | #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstack-ironic-sprint-august-2015-tickets-17533862254 | 17:04 |
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| devananda | please RSVP there so that I can keep track of who and how many are coming | 17:04 |
| BadCub | ugh.. sorry for dropping in late | 17:04 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda: do you have agenda for the sprint? | 17:05 |
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| devananda | Sukhdev: nope. let me start an etherpad | 17:05 |
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| NobodyCam | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-liberty-midcycle | 17:05 |
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| NobodyCam | ^^^ from white board | 17:06 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: I am wondering if Ironic-neutron folks should attend as well - | 17:06 |
| devananda | oh | 17:06 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: great, ty | 17:06 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: it would be great to have one or two, yea | 17:06 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: cool - will discuss with the management and let you know | 17:06 |
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| devananda | #info midcycle sprint is the week before LinuxCon NA, in the same city -- just FYI for those who may be attending both events | 17:07 |
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| devananda | any other announcements? | 17:07 |
| NobodyCam | that covers mine | 17:08 |
| devananda | #topic subteam status reports | 17:08 |
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| devananda | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:08 |
| rloo | jroll: how 'close' are we, wrt the neutron/ironic specs | 17:09 |
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| devananda | oh yah - dtantsur recently revamped his bug dashboard page | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | :) | 17:09 |
| NobodyCam | ya looks very good ! | 17:09 |
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| jroll | rloo: we mostly have agreement from the subteam working on it | 17:09 |
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| devananda | jroll: any progress on the nova/ironic stuff we talked with jaypipes last week about? need me to dive into that again this week at all? | 17:10 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: awesome wrok.. thanks to every one on the team! | 17:10 |
| rloo | jroll: nice. and i thought there was talk about possibly needing a nova spec? no need? | 17:10 |
| jroll | rloo: nova folks tell me we shouldn't need one | 17:11 |
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| jroll | devananda: I've been out since tuesday, will be picking it up today/tomorrow | 17:11 |
| jroll | devananda: needs a quick update, nothing major | 17:11 |
| rloo | jroll: good news wrt nova | 17:11 |
| devananda | jroll: ok, cool. | 17:11 |
| jroll | rloo: for now, until someone decides they want one :) | 17:11 |
| rloo | jroll: didn't you get sign off on that? :D | 17:12 |
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| jroll | rloo: :P | 17:12 |
| rloo | jlvillal: are there any urgent testing things that ought to be done before you get back in AUg? | 17:13 |
| devananda | jroll: I dont see the multihost nova-compute spec on hte whiteboard, adding it under the nova section | 17:13 |
| jroll | devananda: sounds good | 17:13 |
| NobodyCam | oh ya | 17:13 |
| NobodyCam | jlvillal: is gone for a month | 17:13 |
| rloo | when is the nova deadline for specs? | 17:14 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: last week I think | 17:14 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: oh. so that multihost nova-compute spec won't make it in liberty? | 17:14 |
| jlvillal | rloo, I'm not sure about urgent testing things. | 17:14 |
| jroll | rloo: spec submission deadline was last week | 17:15 |
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| jroll | rloo: not sure when freeze is, and if this falls in priority or non-priority | 17:15 |
| rloo | jroll: oh, submission deadline. phew. | 17:15 |
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| jroll | rloo: jay pipes and dan smith agreed to hack on this at the nova midcycle, I think we can do it this cycle | 17:16 |
| devananda | I dont know where it falls in nova's priority queue either, but it has two nova cores backing it already | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | rloo, I don't think there is anything urgent, in regards to testing. At the moment my management fully supports me working on functional testing. So I believe I will be able to resume work when I return. | 17:16 |
| lucasagomes | nice, any ironic folks attending the nova mid-cycle? | 17:16 |
| devananda | as long as we keep moving forward on it with them, I think there's a good chance to get it done | 17:16 |
| rloo | jlvillal: thx | 17:16 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: I am, idk about anyone else | 17:16 |
| devananda | and the upside is, there's very little work needed in Ironic | 17:17 |
| NobodyCam | jlvillal: have you handed any open items off tosomeone else and if so who? | 17:17 |
| NobodyCam | just so we know to to ping | 17:17 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, ack, yeah should be enough would be good to have at least 1 core | 17:17 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: yeah, though hoping someone else shows up :) | 17:17 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: though it's the same week as OSCON | 17:17 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: nova midcycle is the same week as OSCON, which I already planned to attend. | 17:17 |
| jlvillal | NobodyCam, I don't know of any open items regarding functional testing except for the main open item, which is add more functional tests. | 17:18 |
| devananda | so unfortunately I will not make hte nova midcucle | 17:18 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, jroll I see... yeah that complicate things indeed | 17:18 |
| krtaylor | jlvillal, when you return, I'd like to start talking about CI testing also | 17:18 |
| jlvillal | krtaylor, Great! | 17:18 |
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| devananda | jlvillal: main item on my mind re: functional testing -- move it into our tree and out of tempest | 17:18 |
| jlvillal | devananda, I agree. | 17:19 |
| devananda | I'm going to timebox the subteam discussion to another 2 minutes | 17:19 |
| devananda | also, we haven't talked about drivers at all | 17:20 |
| devananda | which is part of this section of hte meeting | 17:20 |
| devananda | looks like the iRCM driver is ready for reviews | 17:20 |
| jroll | there's nothing in the drivers section except "I need reviews" afaict | 17:20 |
| devananda | *iRMC | 17:20 |
| devananda | yea | 17:20 |
| jroll | and we've know that for quite some time :) | 17:20 |
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| devananda | how's the refactoring of boot / deploy coming? | 17:20 |
| lucasagomes | yeah iRMC seems ready indeed, gotta review it again this week | 17:20 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, ive tested the boot deploy split, it works found some minor problems | 17:21 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: I posted the first patch set. after that I am yet to refactor other stuffs. | 17:21 |
| lucasagomes | reported in the patch itself | 17:21 |
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| rameshg87 | devananda: I am yet to work on issues reported by lucasagomes | 17:21 |
| rameshg87 | *issue | 17:21 |
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| devananda | cool - so they're progressing well | 17:21 |
| rameshg87 | everything is not caught in gate :( | 17:21 |
| devananda | rameshg87: how many patch sets deep is it now // do you think it's going to take? | 17:22 |
| rameshg87 | after this may be 3-4 | 17:22 |
| rameshg87 | agent and rest of virtual media drivers | 17:22 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166513/ | 17:22 |
| rameshg87 | after this, it should be getting easier rather | 17:22 |
| rameshg87 | at least I hope so .. | 17:23 |
| devananda | rameshg87: ah, that's not too bad. please make sure they all have the same gerrit topic, and could you add a link to the whiteboard in the "drivers" section | 17:23 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: sure. | 17:23 |
| devananda | I'd like us to track something that big which affects all the drivers in the weekly meetings | 17:23 |
| devananda | thanks much | 17:23 |
| devananda | moving on, because time | 17:24 |
| devananda | #topic node names | 17:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "node names (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:24 | |
| devananda | this seems kinda minor, but it could have a noticeable impact | 17:25 |
| rloo | quick background. the node names were meant to allow for host names only, and then got changed to host-names.domain. | 17:25 |
| rloo | but the code doesn't really detect hostnames properly so chris submitted a patch. | 17:25 |
| rloo | but there was already a bug/ask to relax the names. | 17:25 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193587 | 17:25 |
| rloo | so... we should just decide what-to-do | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | probably it was a wrong idea to go with name=host name | 17:25 |
| rloo | if we fix existing hostname, it means a microversion bump | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | e.g. I would be surprised to not be able to use underscore in any "name" | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | rloo, every API change means microversion bump, but this is also a breaking change | 17:26 |
| rameshg87 | +1, I was surprised | 17:26 |
| lucasagomes | I think I would prefer names to be relaxed, I find hostnames a bit misleading since that name is not used to determine the instance hostname | 17:26 |
| jroll | dtantsur: I agree. I see a use case for only numbers too | 17:26 |
| rloo | dtantsur: yeah, so when i first saw the patch, i thought why fix it, let's just relax the name. | 17:26 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i mean, if we have to do a microversion bump anyway, etc | 17:27 |
| jlvillal | Somewhat as a tangent. But it seems like the host name valid code might be better in something like oslo.utils. | 17:27 |
| devananda | the original requirement for this functionality was that we allow a way to reference Nodes by a human-readable name | 17:27 |
| devananda | we've gone fairly far afield from that along the way. I'm not sure where the FQDN requirement came in that introduced "." separators, eg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1433832 | 17:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1433832 in Ironic "Fix is_hostname_safe for RFC compliance" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Michael Davies (mrda) | 17:27 |
| devananda | jlvillal: I agree w.r.t. moving the RFC-complicancy-checking bits to oslo.utils, fwiw | 17:28 |
| * dtantsur does not remember either, Kilo cycle was messy.. | 17:28 | |
| rloo | ahh, i think that was jroll (but i could be wrong). I mean, jroll added a patch and mrda fixed it to be 'right'... | 17:29 |
| gabriel-bezerra | I agree with relaxing too. | 17:29 |
| devananda | rloo: my isue with completely relaxing the name is that it is a resource identifier, so it must match RFC3986 | 17:29 |
| devananda | #link https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#page-11 | 17:29 |
| jroll | rloo: I don't believe I did? | 17:29 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yeah it's exposed in the URL so should be compatible with that | 17:29 |
| rloo | devananda: so if we relax it to conform to RFC3986? | 17:29 |
| devananda | rloo: that's fine with me | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | lucasagomes, devananda, sorry, I'm not sure I understand you. everything may be encoded in a URL... | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | using %.. notation obviously | 17:30 |
| devananda | dtantsur: yup | 17:30 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, yes compatible == url encoded | 17:30 |
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| devananda | s/that's fine with me// | 17:30 |
| devananda | dtantsur: how about typing it on the command line? | 17:30 |
| devananda | everything can be quoted and escaped in bash, too | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | I'm not advocation allowing weird thing btw. I'm not even suggestion allowing Russian :) | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | * suggesting | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | but support for underscores is not something I feel comfortable using | 17:31 |
| jroll | what if we just allowed anything ascii? | 17:32 |
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| dtantsur | note that I pretty much imagine people wanting local languages, but that might go too far | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | jroll, ASCII == chr(0)..chr(127)? | 17:33 |
| jroll | dtantsur: yeah, something like that | 17:33 |
| lucasagomes | yeah we can come up with something reasonble I believe, like alphanumerics + special symbols in <list> | 17:33 |
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| dtantsur | ++ | 17:33 |
| lucasagomes | list being = ( '-', '_', '.') | 17:33 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: let's not invent our own standard (again) | 17:33 |
| NobodyCam | per rfc" unreserved = ALPHA / DIGIT / "-" / "." / "_" / "~" | 17:34 |
| devananda | thus my suggestion we stick to the RFC :) | 17:34 |
| NobodyCam | ++ | 17:34 |
| lucasagomes | which is fair enuff | 17:34 |
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| * dtantsur is lost, which part of RPC? host names? domains? | 17:35 | |
| lucasagomes | rfc3986 | 17:35 |
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| rloo | I think rfc3986, the 'characters' part? | 17:35 |
| lucasagomes | which is basically anything... url encoded | 17:35 |
| jroll | dtantsur: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#page-11 is what was linked earlier | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | ah, sorry, I finally understood this unreserved thing :) +1 | 17:36 |
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| rloo | so it'll need a spec, right? (for whoever does it. don't know if chris has given up on us or not) | 17:36 |
| devananda | let's continue discussing this on the bug report here | 17:36 |
| devananda | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1434376 | 17:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434376 in Ironic "Node name rule relaxation" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Chris St. Pierre (stpierre) | 17:36 |
| devananda | I hope this doesn't need a spec -- it's either a bug fix, or we shouldn't be doing it at all | 17:37 |
| rloo | devananda: well, the spec mentions hostname I believe. | 17:37 |
| rloo | devananda: or hostname.domain. can't recall now. | 17:37 |
| rloo | devananda: and we can't change the original spec. | 17:37 |
| devananda | rloo: sure. but that spec != live documentation of the state of hte project today | 17:38 |
| rloo | devananda: fine with me. i like bugs better. | 17:38 |
| NobodyCam | i think bug should cover us here | 17:38 |
| devananda | that spec was implemented last cycle, and that code released. we need to understand that folks will be using that code for several years to come | 17:38 |
| devananda | so what ever non-standards-compliant type checking we released in Kilo is exactly what some operators will be stuck with for a while | 17:39 |
| devananda | anyway, before I rant on that, let's move on to the next topic | 17:39 |
| NobodyCam | ++ | 17:39 |
| * rloo was hoping for a rant | 17:39 | |
| lucasagomes | heh | 17:39 |
| devananda | actually, going to skip one and come back to it | 17:39 |
| devananda | #topic release model spec | 17:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release model spec (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:39 | |
| jroll | ohai | 17:40 |
| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185171/ | 17:40 |
| devananda | jroll: hi there! | 17:40 |
| jroll | so I've had lots of feedback on this spec | 17:40 |
| jroll | all good stuff, and I think I've incorporated it all | 17:40 |
| jroll | so I'd like to get eyes on this, land it, and get back to releasing software | 17:40 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, was looking at it right now, I remember we talked about re global requirements | 17:40 |
| lucasagomes | to have somehting like a "-2 LGTM" in the projects/requirements | 17:41 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: yeah, there's a thing in there | 17:41 |
| devananda | I see that dhellmann and ttx both gave you feedback -- that's fantastic -- and you've just posted a new rev, which I haven't read yet | 17:41 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, yeah not sure if u want to mention that in the spec tho, plus we would need somehow to not break gate-ironic-requirements job | 17:41 |
| lucasagomes | in gate | 17:41 |
| devananda | jroll: any specific changes worth calling out? | 17:41 |
| lucasagomes | since right now any update to the requirements.txt in the ironic tree that is not in gr will cause gate to fail | 17:42 |
| jroll | devananda: nothing major, just some clarifications and corrections from ttx's comments | 17:42 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: oh, hrm :/ | 17:42 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: I don't think that's true unless that's new | 17:42 |
| lucasagomes | I think it's there for a while | 17:43 |
| lucasagomes | e.g https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196010/ | 17:43 |
| lucasagomes | gate-ironic-requirements http://logs.openstack.org/10/196010/1/check/gate-ironic-requirements/68a3886/ : Incompatible requirement found; see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Requirements in 16s | 17:43 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: urgh | 17:43 |
| lucasagomes | I mean it can be worked out, I just pointing out in case u want to put in the spec | 17:43 |
| jroll | yeah, idk | 17:44 |
| jroll | if you want it in the spec, add it | 17:44 |
| jroll | er, review it | 17:44 |
| lucasagomes | yeah I will add a comment about it | 17:44 |
| jroll | I don't know it needs to be there, this is more about process IMO | 17:44 |
| lucasagomes | yeah sure | 17:44 |
| NobodyCam | *15 minutes left | 17:45 |
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| devananda | jroll: changes LGTM, though I may want to discuss (separately) about the spec tree structure changes | 17:45 |
| jroll | devananda: sure | 17:46 |
| devananda | jroll: but that detail isn't a critical part of the spec | 17:46 |
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| lucasagomes | added | 17:46 |
| jroll | devananda: agree | 17:46 |
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| devananda | cool. well, let's get a few more eyes on it this week and try to land it by next monday if we can | 17:47 |
| NobodyCam | ++ | 17:47 |
| devananda | and then make the changes to semver version numbres -- I'd love to be able to tag our first release in this model before OSCON | 17:47 |
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| devananda | #topic liberty priorities | 17:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "liberty priorities (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:48 | |
| devananda | #topic how about we just call them priorities | 17:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "how about we just call them priorities (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:48 | |
| devananda | :) | 17:48 |
| lucasagomes | tl;dr that spreadsheet is not updated | 17:48 |
| lucasagomes | I started put some stuff there, other people helped too, but yeah need more work | 17:48 |
| rloo | devananda: priorities is fine with me :) | 17:49 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: yea, i put a few things up, but agree -- it needs more work. since the rush at the end of kilo, we all sort of stopped tracking priorities well | 17:49 |
| gabriel-bezerra | rloo, devananda: +1 | 17:49 |
| rloo | devananda: basically, wanted to get an idea of our priorities, since i know that we're itchin' for a release soon :) | 17:49 |
| devananda | which has been the normal fall-out from the end of cycle crunch period | 17:49 |
| lucasagomes | yeah | 17:49 |
| * devananda renames the tab to Current Priorities | 17:50 | |
| devananda | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hxyfy60hN_Fit0b-plsPzK6yW3ePQC5IfwuzJwltlbo | 17:50 |
| devananda | fwiw, I don't like using a google spreadsheet -- but it's better than launchpad for quickly seeing what's going on | 17:51 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: so actually -- what "big effort items" are missing from this? | 17:52 |
| lucasagomes | release model ? | 17:52 |
| lucasagomes | tho it doesn't involve code, we need review | 17:52 |
| devananda | eh, that's not code | 17:52 |
| NobodyCam | would name relaxtion be a BIG effort item | 17:53 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: oh gawh i hope not | 17:53 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:53 |
| lucasagomes | yeah I gotta go through the specs that have been merged and is in the queue and put it there | 17:53 |
| krtaylor | what about adding more functional tests? | 17:54 |
| devananda | krtaylor: totally important | 17:54 |
| jlvillal | +1 | 17:54 |
| NobodyCam | * 5 minute warnning bell * | 17:55 |
| rloo | is the ironic-lib refactoring important? | 17:55 |
| devananda | but we've used this spreadsheet in the past to track feature implementation status for big ticket / high priority items, during the crunch leading up to a release | 17:55 |
| jroll | rloo: imo yes, enables partition images in agent drivers | 17:55 |
| devananda | perhaps we should, with the release model changing, rethink how we track that ongoing work slightly | 17:55 |
| gabriel-bezerra | Should drivers go in the spreadsheet too? We have the OneView one we want done for Liberty. | 17:56 |
| jroll | rloo: big missing feature me thinks | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | I also see it as a way not to forget things we agreed on on the summit :) | 17:56 |
| devananda | #action devananda to think about the ways we have/should track and communicate major project priorities | 17:56 |
| lucasagomes | gabriel-bezerra, yes | 17:56 |
| devananda | #topen discussion | 17:56 |
| devananda | #topic open discussion | 17:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:56 | |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:56 |
| gabriel-bezerra | I can't edit the spreadsheet. How does it work? | 17:57 |
| lucasagomes | maybe we can talk about that patch from JoshNang that allows exposing "fail" provision state in the api | 17:57 |
| devananda | gabriel-bezerra: difference there is, one team is working on adding a new driver. it's great, but not affecting other teams. | 17:57 |
| jroll | gabriel-bezerra: iirc cores can only update the spreadsheet | 17:57 |
| lucasagomes | I gave it a go today, but, it requires some stuff such as breaking the lock | 17:57 |
| * lucasagomes grabs the link | 17:57 | |
| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196229/ | 17:57 |
| JoshNang | yeah i think there are quite a few caveats in that patch | 17:58 |
| lucasagomes | yeah, I put some comments there... but I like the idea | 17:58 |
| lucasagomes | we def need something like that | 17:58 |
| devananda | JoshNang: i also had an idea -- s/fail/abort/ because that's a better verb to express the intent | 17:58 |
| JoshNang | ++ for abort | 17:59 |
| lucasagomes | yeah | 17:59 |
| lucasagomes | one thing tho DEPLOYWAIT already supported "deleted" | 17:59 |
| lucasagomes | which is kinda like an abort for DEPLOYWAIT | 17:59 |
| lucasagomes | so we may have some duplication there | 17:59 |
| gabriel-bezerra | devananda: I see. | 17:59 |
| NobodyCam | * last minute * | 17:59 |
| gabriel-bezerra | jroll: OK. | 17:59 |
| lucasagomes | anyway we got 1 min and we won't be able to solve it in that time | 17:59 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: yep, which is either inconsistent, or a breaking API change | 17:59 |
| gabriel-bezerra | rloo: thanks for adding it. | 17:59 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yeah | 18:00 |
| dtantsur | we should anyway start with a spec, I guess.. | 18:00 |
| NobodyCam | Great meeting Thanks to Everyone! | 18:00 |
| jroll | good meeting, thanks everyone | 18:00 |
| devananda | cheers, thanks all! | 18:00 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:00 | |
| gabriel-bezerra | thank you | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 29 18:00:39 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-06-29-17.01.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-06-29-17.01.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-06-29-17.01.log.html | 18:00 |
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