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mohankumarHi Folks , Need Help ...I wrote  some Horizon code and i want to check my code locally . How can i do that ?  do i need to merge my changes to opt/stack/horizon ? and rerun devstack10:49
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vkmcmohankumar, simply restart apache to reflect the changes10:55
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mohankumarHi vkmc ! thanks ..where do i need to copy my changes ... is it to /opt/stack ?11:13
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vkmcmohankumar, so... you make your changes in /opt/stack/horizon11:27
vkmcmohankumar, and then you restart apache (if you are in ubuntu it should be something like 'sudo service restart apache2')11:27
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mohankumarThanks Vkmc ! will  try :)11:37
vkmcmohankumar, np! let me know if that works for you11:37
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ativelkovCourtesy artifacts-meeting reminder: nikhil, ativelkov, mfedosin, sigmavirus24, flaper8714:00
ativelkov#startmeeting glance-artifacts14:00
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ativelkovHi folks14:00
sigmavirus24Hello everyone14:01
ativelkovNikhil is ooo today, So, I'll run this meeting14:01
sigmavirus24Sounds good14:01
ativelkovWe don't have much agenda for today, as most of the topics are postponed till nikhil's return:
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ativelkovSo, just a quick status update on what's going on14:02
* sigmavirus24 listens eagerly as he's been not able to keep up14:02
ativelkovwe are in the middle of migration from our "declarative framework" to oslo_versionedobjects14:03
ativelkovMost important part - the constraints and validation - has to be ported there as they miss that functionality14:03
ativelkovI've made that commit last week and it is on review now14:03
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ativelkovIt does not include a complete validation of list/dict fields though, so it has to be added a bit later: for now we almost don't use it in Glance anyway14:05
ativelkovThe remaining part - a concept of "immutable" field (i.e. the fields which became read-only based on the state of the owner object) probably has to remain at Glance, as it looks very specific to us14:06
sigmavirus24That seems like a fair compromise14:07
mfedosinwhat about json schema generation? will it be in glance too?14:07
ativelkovAs soon as this lands, I'll submit a commit which adds oslo-based way of declaring artifact types in parallel with the old ones. We'll have it reviewed (hope flaper87 get some cycles for that) and then we'll drop the old declarative frmwk14:08
ativelkovmfedosin: it depends. As we've decided to get rid of warlock for the client, we (probably) don't need jsonschema at all14:09
ativelkovBut this may be changed back (if we want to be backwards compatible with v2 we'll have to introduce something similar to v2's property protection,w hich uses schema)14:10
mfedosinativelkov, what will replace it?14:10
kragnizwhen did we decide to get rid of warlock on the client?14:10
ativelkovkragniz: last week on this same meeting14:10
mfedosinkragniz, on the last meeting14:10
* kragniz must have been asleep14:10
ativelkovbut that's just a temporary solution for now, just to save some time coding the client14:11
ativelkovSo, for now we'll have a "static" client which returns objects with attributes corresponding to generic artifact properties14:11
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ativelkovAnd all the type-specific attributes placed into "type_specific_proprties" dict of those objects14:12
mfedosinyou can chack how it's done here
sigmavirus24ativelkov: mfedosin is it for everything in the client, or just artifacts in the client?14:12
mfedosinjust artifacts14:13
ativelkovsigmavirus24: well, for now v3 client is going to have only artifacts :)14:13
mfedosinyep, tasks and metadefs may use schemas14:13
ativelkovThis expects the clients of projects which consume particular artifact types (python-muranoclient, python-heatclient etc) to use glance-client to fetch the artifact information and form their proper objects, given that they know the schema14:14
sigmavirus24I think kragniz thought warlock was completely gone =P14:14
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ativelkovI'd prefer it to go, as it is now supported anymore14:14
ativelkovOr at least it seems so :)14:15
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sigmavirus24Yep. Anyway that's a separate topic and I don't want to derail the meeting :D14:15
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ativelkovYup, that sounds like a good topic for mid-cycle meetup14:15
ativelkovMore good news: I participated in last week's IRC meeting of Community App Catalog team14:16
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mfedosinand they want us :)14:16
ativelkovyup, they are considering Glance V3 to become their backend at some point of time14:17
sigmavirus24As you predicted at the summit =P14:17
mfedosinsigmavirus24, they had concerns actually14:18
ativelkovSo, we'll make some kind of PoC for them to demonstrate how Glance handles their current data14:18
mfedosinbut it's okay now14:18
sigmavirus24mfedosin: ah good to know14:18
ativelkovWe need to align their request with our roadmap - and have them help us to work on API improvements14:18
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ativelkovTheir primary requests are import/export of artifacts and dynamic artifact references14:19
ativelkov(i.e. ability to reference artifacts not only by static IDs but also by name and version range)14:19
mfedosinnothing of that isn't done yet :(14:19
ativelkovmfedosin: well, dynamic references are relatively easy to do14:20
ativelkovUnlike import/export14:20
mfedosinagree, but import/export is a big task14:20
mfedosinsince we still have no decision about format14:21
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ativelkovivasilevskaya has done some import/export PoC shortly before she left, but it definetely needs much more work14:21
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mfedosindefinitely we need a volunteer :)14:22
* ativelkov voluntols mfedosin14:22
mfedosinI'm working on the client currently14:22
mfedosinbtw, folk,initial commit is ready
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ativelkovWell, we'll see. The client is more important right now, for sure.14:23
ativelkovYEs, some reviews for the client code would be appreciated14:23
mfedosinplease review it when you can14:23
mfedosinCRUD part will be done today14:23
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mfedosinand listing on this week too14:24
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ativelkovSo, the question is, do you guys think we need a CLI for artifacts now, or this can be postponed a bit till we stabilized the API?14:24
sigmavirus24ativelkov: I would postpone until we have a stabilized API14:25
sigmavirus24That said14:25
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sigmavirus24Landing the majority of the work and updating it wouldn't be a terrible thing14:25
mfedosinsigmavirus24, +114:25
sigmavirus24That means there's a couple large diffs upfront, and then a bunch of small ones14:25
sigmavirus24The small ones would be much easier to review14:25
sigmavirus24But it's still more work so14:25
ativelkovsigmavirus24: thanks, sounds reasonable14:26
sigmavirus24If we can keep the reviews under 400 LOC that'd be great.14:26
ativelkovYup, that's a lesson learned from the last cycle14:26
sigmavirus24I appreciate that personally. My brain shuts off after I get past about 600 lines14:27
sigmavirus24400 means I can review something else =P14:27
mfedosinyeah, we knew that14:27
ativelkovYou can always ignore tests, they are usually boring )14:27
sigmavirus24nah, tests are important too14:28
mfedosinso after I'm going to concentrate on our architecture and get rid of domain model. and work on stabilize API too. It means that import/export is not my highest priority14:28
ativelkovGood. And I'll try to prepare a document for API-WG this week, so we may start discussing API-related work14:29
mfedosinativelkov, sg!14:29
ativelkovWe are out of time, BTW14:29
ativelkovSo, if there are open questions, let's continue in glance channel14:30
ativelkovthanks all14:30
mfedosinthanks, folks! and please review client commit :)14:30
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j^2#startmeeting openstack-chef16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 29 16:00:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is j^2. Information about MeetBot at
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j^2hey everyone16:00
j^2just a reminder here’s the agenda:
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j^2i’ll give us a couple mins then start16:01
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j^2#topic  <sc`> c7 still requires some modifications to common to start to converge. still working on getting a converge16:03
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j^2it should be the last time we talk abut this right?16:03
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j^2we have the patches and everything?16:03
sc`we have common and repo patched. need some fixes for mariadb16:03
sc`i've submitted a PR for that16:04
j^2can you link to it please?16:04
j^2any other update?16:05
sc`that's it for me16:05
j^2rock on16:06
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j^2#topic specs.openstack.org16:06
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j^2I completely dropped the ball on this16:06
j^2i’ll put it on my todo list for this week, granted being a “short” week, i’ll do my best. It’s not mission critical, but i’ll get it done16:07
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j^2any other thoughts on this?16:07
sc`given the "short" week, i don't expect much to get done :D16:08
markvanI still agree it's the right place to go16:08
j^2yep awesome16:08
j^2#topic How to handle cross project CI testing.16:09
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j^2markvan: take it away16:09
markvank, first patch that went to cover all the cookbooks via the bootstrap:
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markvanThis will work with existing infra job, but we can consider removing the gerrit-prep step to just use zuul-cloner for everything, but not a high priority16:11
markvanNext patch was to build upon that and make this also work for the repo:
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markvanthe basic idea behind this approach is to pull down the dependent cookbooks and place them in a ..\dir and then point Berks to find that local path.16:12
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markvanI made updated in wiki here to help folks start using it:
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markvanthat's it for Depends-On support...16:14
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markvanyeah, turned out that zuul-cloner does a pretty good job16:15
markvanjust need to melt with with our Berks needs16:15
j^2yeah infra basicly said the majority of what we were doing zuul-cloner does like most if not all of it16:15
markvanyup, it can handle the dpendencies well....but knows nothing about Berks16:16
j^2so this dove tails into the new topic of: switch from gerrit-prep to zuul-cloner16:16
j^2who put that down? i’m assuming you markvan?16:17
markvanyup, we're still using that basic step to get the base patch downloaded for the gate job.16:17
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markvanso, we would need to remove that step and then tweak the bootstrap to have that patch put in the right dir by zuul-cloner via the map file.16:18
markvanso it would be a 2 part change, but no real hurry on that16:18
j^2but it’ll make it easier to read in the long run?16:19
markvanI guess I would first like to see some folks use the Depends-On as it is now...and then make that next move16:19
markvanyup, better in the long run16:19
j^2yeah i’d really like to see people use the Depends-On way for a while before changing anything else16:19
j^2i mean there arent a _ton_ of changes that require it but it would be nice to see that people do it correctly16:20
j^2or something like that16:20
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markvanyup, as cores, we need to watch out for this aspect now, especially for Common changes16:21
sc`Depends-On would be great to see in use. my recent changes would have been a good candidate16:22
j^2#topic <markvan> keystone under apache, blueprint patches submitted16:23
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j^2markvan: :D16:24
markvanyes the patches are in now to provide support.  But will don't change the roles to use it until liberty.16:24
markvanAnd I would like to test a bit more on the centos side once that is in better shape as it might need a tweak for that support.16:25
j^2sc`: are you looking at this change at all for keystone?16:25
j^2(you’re still my main centos guy :P)16:25
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sc`i'll have to spend some cycles looking at it16:26
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sc`i've looked at it a bit on icehouse16:26
markvansc`: to play with it, just need to make a one line change in the os-identity role16:26
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markvanlet me know if you have questions16:28
j^2#topic Open Discussion16:28
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markvanis jklare around?  How is that periodic CI gate coming along?16:29
j^2      - should build it at 6am UTC every day16:29
j^2        - to move it from experimental to non-voting in check16:29
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j^2looks like they are still WIP16:30
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markvanyup,  and I think we the non-voting check in there only applies to older branches, and we decided to have it non-voting for master as well to start with, right?16:31
markvanso, still needs a tweak16:31
j^2hopefully he’ll be around next week so we can ask him16:32
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j^2cool, anything else?16:33
j^2we need more people to show up to this meeting16:33
markvanjust a quick comment on stable/kilo branching.16:33
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markvanLooks like we just have a couple patches left and get the periodic enabled and should branch shortly after that?16:33
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j^2but we need to actaully be stable, so i’d like to way a couple weeks after those patches are in16:34
sc`when the kilo packages for centos stabilize, my patch against common and repo will need to come out16:34
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markvank, just wanted to keep pushing on this, as liberty  changes ramp up16:35
j^2agreed, but i don’t want to hit stable till we actaully can build this16:36
markvanthat's it for me16:36
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j^2movement to close the meeting early?16:39
sc`imo, we should probably hold off on branching stable/kilo until the rdo packages solidify16:39
j^2sc`: i can see that16:39
sc`ironic being the main issue16:39
j^2ironic is always the issue16:40
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sc`i've got nothing else16:41
j^2lets go ahead and call it then16:42
j^2till next week guys16:42
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NobodyCamgah a little slow here17:00
devananda#startmeeting ironic17:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 29 17:01:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic'17:01
devanandagood morning/afternoon/evening/night, everyone17:01
devanandaas usual, our agenda is here:17:01
devananda#chair nobodycam17:02
openstackCurrent chairs: devananda nobodycam17:02
devananda#chair NobodyCam17:02
openstackCurrent chairs: NobodyCam devananda nobodycam17:02
devananda#topic announcements17:02
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devanandafirst things first -- the location for the midcycle is confirmed17:02
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NobodyCammany thanks to BadCub and devananda for getting that confirmed17:03
jlvillalAlong with 6,000 statisticians at the convention center ;)17:03
devanandasorry that it took so long -- I had been emailing folks in the Seattle office to try to arrange it, but basically had to go into the office in person to finish things17:03
devanandawhich wasn't possible while travelling the last few weeks17:04
devanandaso anyway, it's done now.17:04
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devanandaplease RSVP there so that I can keep track of who and how many are coming17:04
BadCubugh.. sorry for dropping in late17:04
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Sukhdevdevananda: do you have agenda for the sprint?17:05
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devanandaSukhdev: nope. let me start an etherpad17:05
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NobodyCam^^^ from white board17:06
Sukhdevdevananda: I am wondering if Ironic-neutron folks should attend as well -17:06
devanandaNobodyCam: great, ty17:06
devanandaSukhdev: it would be great to have one or two, yea17:06
Sukhdevdevananda: cool - will discuss with the management and let you know17:06
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devananda#info midcycle sprint is the week before LinuxCon NA, in the same city -- just FYI for those who may be attending both events17:07
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devanandaany other announcements?17:07
NobodyCamthat covers mine17:08
devananda#topic subteam status reports17:08
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rloojroll: how 'close' are we, wrt the neutron/ironic specs17:09
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devanandaoh yah - dtantsur recently revamped his bug dashboard page17:09
NobodyCamya looks very good !17:09
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jrollrloo: we mostly have agreement from the subteam working on it17:09
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devanandajroll: any progress on the nova/ironic stuff we talked with jaypipes last week about? need me to dive into that again this week at all?17:10
NobodyCamjroll: awesome wrok.. thanks to every one on the team!17:10
rloojroll: nice. and i thought there was talk about possibly needing a nova spec? no need?17:10
jrollrloo: nova folks tell me we shouldn't need one17:11
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jrolldevananda: I've been out since tuesday, will be picking it up today/tomorrow17:11
jrolldevananda: needs a quick update, nothing major17:11
rloojroll: good news wrt nova17:11
devanandajroll: ok, cool.17:11
jrollrloo: for now, until someone decides they want one :)17:11
rloojroll: didn't you get sign off on that? :D17:12
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jrollrloo: :P17:12
rloojlvillal: are there any urgent testing things that ought to be done before you get back in AUg?17:13
devanandajroll: I dont see the multihost nova-compute spec on hte whiteboard, adding it under the nova section17:13
jrolldevananda: sounds good17:13
NobodyCamoh ya17:13
NobodyCamjlvillal: is gone for a month17:13
rloowhen is the nova deadline for specs?17:14
NobodyCamrloo: last week I think17:14
rlooNobodyCam: oh. so that multihost nova-compute spec won't make it in liberty?17:14
jlvillalrloo, I'm not sure about urgent testing things.17:14
jrollrloo: spec submission deadline was last week17:15
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jrollrloo: not sure when freeze is, and if this falls in priority or non-priority17:15
rloojroll: oh, submission deadline. phew.17:15
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jrollrloo: jay pipes and dan smith agreed to hack on this at the nova midcycle, I think we can do it this cycle17:16
devanandaI dont know where it falls in nova's priority queue either, but it has two nova cores backing it already17:16
jlvillalrloo, I don't think there is anything urgent, in regards to testing.  At the moment my management fully supports me working on functional testing.  So I believe I will be able to resume work when I return.17:16
lucasagomesnice, any ironic folks attending the nova mid-cycle?17:16
devanandaas long as we keep moving forward on it with them, I think there's a good chance to get it done17:16
rloojlvillal: thx17:16
jrolllucasagomes: I am, idk about anyone else17:16
devanandaand the upside is, there's very little work needed in Ironic17:17
NobodyCamjlvillal: have you handed any open items off tosomeone else and if so who?17:17
NobodyCamjust so we know to to ping17:17
lucasagomesjroll, ack, yeah should be enough would be good to have at least 1 core17:17
jrolllucasagomes: yeah, though hoping someone else shows up :)17:17
jrolllucasagomes: though it's the same week as OSCON17:17
devanandalucasagomes: nova midcycle is the same week as OSCON, which I already planned to attend.17:17
jlvillalNobodyCam, I don't know of any open items regarding functional testing except for the main open item, which is add more functional tests.17:18
devanandaso unfortunately I will not make hte nova midcucle17:18
lucasagomesdevananda, jroll I see... yeah that complicate things indeed17:18
krtaylorjlvillal, when you return, I'd like to start talking about CI testing also17:18
jlvillalkrtaylor, Great!17:18
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devanandajlvillal: main item on my mind re: functional testing -- move it into our tree and out of tempest17:18
jlvillaldevananda, I agree.17:19
devanandaI'm going to timebox the subteam discussion to another 2 minutes17:19
devanandaalso, we haven't talked about drivers at all17:20
devanandawhich is part of this section of hte meeting17:20
devanandalooks like the iRCM driver is ready for reviews17:20
jrollthere's nothing in the drivers section except "I need reviews" afaict17:20
jrolland we've know that for quite some time :)17:20
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devanandahow's the refactoring of boot / deploy coming?17:20
lucasagomesyeah iRMC seems ready indeed, gotta review it again this week17:20
lucasagomesdevananda, ive tested the boot deploy split, it works found some minor problems17:21
rameshg87devananda: I posted the first patch set. after that I am yet to refactor other stuffs.17:21
lucasagomesreported in the patch itself17:21
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rameshg87devananda: I am yet to work on issues reported by lucasagomes17:21
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devanandacool - so they're progressing well17:21
rameshg87everything is not caught in gate :(17:21
devanandarameshg87: how many patch sets deep is it now // do you think it's going to take?17:22
rameshg87after this may be 3-417:22
rameshg87agent and rest of virtual media drivers17:22
rameshg87after this, it should be getting easier rather17:22
rameshg87at least I hope so ..17:23
devanandarameshg87: ah, that's not too bad. please make sure they all have the same gerrit topic, and could you add a link to the whiteboard in the "drivers" section17:23
rameshg87devananda: sure.17:23
devanandaI'd like us to track something that big which affects all the drivers in the weekly meetings17:23
devanandathanks much17:23
devanandamoving on, because time17:24
devananda#topic node names17:24
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devanandathis seems kinda minor, but it could have a noticeable impact17:25
rlooquick  background. the node names were meant to allow for host names only, and then got changed to host-names.domain.17:25
rloobut the code doesn't really detect hostnames properly so chris submitted a patch.17:25
rloobut there was already a bug/ask to relax the names.17:25
rlooso... we should just decide what-to-do17:25
dtantsurprobably it was a wrong idea to go with name=host name17:25
rlooif we fix existing hostname, it means a microversion bump17:26
dtantsure.g. I would be surprised to not be able to use underscore in any "name"17:26
dtantsurrloo, every API change means microversion bump, but this is also a breaking change17:26
rameshg87+1, I was surprised17:26
lucasagomesI think I would prefer names to be relaxed, I find hostnames a bit misleading since that name is not used to determine the instance hostname17:26
jrolldtantsur: I agree. I see a use case for only numbers too17:26
rloodtantsur: yeah, so when i first saw the patch, i thought why fix it, let's just relax the name.17:26
rloodtantsur: i mean, if we have to do a microversion bump anyway, etc17:27
jlvillalSomewhat as a tangent.  But it seems like the host name valid code might be better in something like oslo.utils.17:27
devanandathe original requirement for this functionality was that we allow a way to reference Nodes by a human-readable name17:27
devanandawe've gone fairly far afield from that along the way. I'm not sure where the FQDN requirement came in that introduced "." separators, eg,
openstackLaunchpad bug 1433832 in Ironic "Fix is_hostname_safe for RFC compliance" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Michael Davies (mrda)17:27
devanandajlvillal: I agree w.r.t. moving the RFC-complicancy-checking bits to oslo.utils, fwiw17:28
* dtantsur does not remember either, Kilo cycle was messy..17:28
rlooahh, i think that was jroll (but i could be wrong). I mean, jroll added a patch and mrda fixed it to be 'right'...17:29
gabriel-bezerraI agree with relaxing too.17:29
devanandarloo: my isue with completely relaxing the name is that it is a resource identifier, so it must match RFC398617:29
jrollrloo: I don't believe I did?17:29
lucasagomesdevananda, yeah it's exposed in the URL so should be compatible with that17:29
rloodevananda: so if we relax it to conform to RFC3986?17:29
devanandarloo: that's fine with me17:30
dtantsurlucasagomes, devananda, sorry, I'm not sure I understand you. everything may be encoded in a URL...17:30
dtantsurusing %.. notation obviously17:30
devanandadtantsur: yup17:30
lucasagomesdtantsur, yes compatible == url encoded17:30
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devanandas/that's fine with me//17:30
devanandadtantsur: how about typing it on the command line?17:30
devanandaeverything can be quoted and escaped in bash, too17:31
dtantsurI'm not advocation allowing weird thing btw. I'm not even suggestion allowing Russian :)17:31
dtantsur* suggesting17:31
dtantsurbut support for underscores is not something I feel comfortable using17:31
jrollwhat if we just allowed anything ascii?17:32
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dtantsurnote that I pretty much imagine people wanting local languages, but that might go too far17:32
dtantsurjroll, ASCII == chr(0)..chr(127)?17:33
jrolldtantsur: yeah, something like that17:33
lucasagomesyeah we can come up with something reasonble I believe, like alphanumerics + special symbols in <list>17:33
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lucasagomeslist being = ( '-', '_', '.')17:33
devanandalucasagomes: let's not invent our own standard (again)17:33
NobodyCamper rfc" unreserved  = ALPHA / DIGIT / "-" / "." / "_" / "~"17:34
devanandathus my suggestion we stick to the RFC :)17:34
lucasagomeswhich is fair enuff17:34
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* dtantsur is lost, which part of RPC? host names? domains?17:35
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rlooI think rfc3986, the 'characters' part?17:35
lucasagomeswhich is basically anything... url encoded17:35
jrolldtantsur: is what was linked earlier17:35
dtantsurah, sorry, I finally understood this unreserved thing :) +117:36
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rlooso it'll need a spec, right? (for whoever does it. don't know if chris has given up on us or not)17:36
devanandalet's continue discussing this on the bug report here17:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1434376 in Ironic "Node name rule relaxation" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Chris St. Pierre (stpierre)17:36
devanandaI hope this doesn't need a spec -- it's either a bug fix, or we shouldn't be doing it at all17:37
rloodevananda: well, the spec mentions hostname I believe.17:37
rloodevananda: or hostname.domain. can't recall now.17:37
rloodevananda: and we can't change the original spec.17:37
devanandarloo: sure. but that spec != live documentation of the state of hte project today17:38
rloodevananda: fine with me. i like bugs better.17:38
NobodyCami think bug should cover us here17:38
devanandathat spec was implemented last cycle, and that code released. we need to understand that folks will be using that code for several years to come17:38
devanandaso what ever non-standards-compliant type checking we released in Kilo is exactly what some operators will be stuck with for a while17:39
devanandaanyway, before I rant on that, let's move on to the next topic17:39
* rloo was hoping for a rant17:39
devanandaactually, going to skip one and come back to it17:39
devananda#topic release model spec17:39
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devanandajroll: hi there!17:40
jrollso I've had lots of feedback on this spec17:40
jrollall good stuff, and I think I've incorporated it all17:40
jrollso I'd like to get eyes on this, land it, and get back to releasing software17:40
lucasagomesjroll, was looking at it right now, I remember we talked about re global requirements17:40
lucasagomesto have somehting like a "-2 LGTM" in the projects/requirements17:41
jrolllucasagomes: yeah, there's a thing in there17:41
devanandaI see that dhellmann and ttx both gave you feedback -- that's fantastic -- and you've just posted a new rev, which I haven't read yet17:41
lucasagomesjroll, yeah not sure if u want to mention that in the spec tho, plus we would need somehow to not break gate-ironic-requirements job17:41
lucasagomesin gate17:41
devanandajroll: any specific changes worth calling out?17:41
lucasagomessince right now any update to the requirements.txt in the ironic tree that is not in gr will cause gate to fail17:42
jrolldevananda: nothing major, just some clarifications and corrections from ttx's comments17:42
jrolllucasagomes: oh, hrm :/17:42
jrolllucasagomes: I don't think that's true unless that's new17:42
lucasagomesI think it's there for a while17:43
lucasagomesgate-ironic-requirements : Incompatible requirement found; see in 16s17:43
jrolllucasagomes: urgh17:43
lucasagomesI mean it can be worked out, I just pointing out in case u want to put in the spec17:43
jrollyeah, idk17:44
jrollif you want it in the spec, add it17:44
jroller, review it17:44
lucasagomesyeah I will add a comment about it17:44
jrollI don't know it needs to be there, this is more about process IMO17:44
lucasagomesyeah sure17:44
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devanandajroll: changes LGTM, though I may want to discuss (separately) about the spec tree structure changes17:45
jrolldevananda: sure17:46
devanandajroll: but that detail isn't a critical part of the spec17:46
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jrolldevananda: agree17:46
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devanandacool. well, let's get a few more eyes on it this week and try to land it by next monday if we can17:47
devanandaand then make the changes to semver version numbres -- I'd love to be able to tag our first release in this model before OSCON17:47
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devananda#topic liberty priorities17:48
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devananda#topic how about we just call them priorities17:48
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lucasagomestl;dr that spreadsheet is not updated17:48
lucasagomesI started put some stuff there, other people helped too, but yeah need more work17:48
rloodevananda: priorities is fine with me :)17:49
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devanandalucasagomes: yea, i put a few things up, but agree -- it needs more work. since the rush at the end of kilo, we all sort of stopped tracking priorities well17:49
gabriel-bezerrarloo, devananda: +117:49
rloodevananda: basically, wanted to get an idea of our priorities, since i know that we're itchin' for a release soon :)17:49
devanandawhich has been the normal fall-out from the end of cycle crunch period17:49
* devananda renames the tab to Current Priorities17:50
devanandafwiw, I don't like using a google spreadsheet -- but it's better than launchpad for quickly seeing what's going on17:51
devanandalucasagomes: so actually -- what "big effort items" are missing from this?17:52
lucasagomesrelease model ?17:52
lucasagomestho it doesn't involve code, we need review17:52
devanandaeh, that's not code17:52
NobodyCamwould name relaxtion be a BIG effort item17:53
devanandaNobodyCam: oh gawh i hope not17:53
lucasagomesyeah I gotta go through the specs that have been merged and is in the queue and put it there17:53
krtaylorwhat about adding more functional tests?17:54
devanandakrtaylor: totally important17:54
NobodyCam* 5 minute warnning bell *17:55
rloois the ironic-lib refactoring important?17:55
devanandabut we've used this spreadsheet in the past to track feature implementation status for big ticket / high priority items, during the crunch leading up to a release17:55
jrollrloo: imo yes, enables partition images in agent drivers17:55
devanandaperhaps we should, with the release model changing, rethink how we track that ongoing work slightly17:55
gabriel-bezerraShould drivers go in the spreadsheet too? We have the OneView one we want done for Liberty.17:56
jrollrloo: big missing feature me thinks17:56
dtantsurI also see it as a way not to forget things we agreed on on the summit :)17:56
devananda#action devananda to think about the ways we have/should track and communicate major project priorities17:56
lucasagomesgabriel-bezerra, yes17:56
devananda#topen discussion17:56
devananda#topic open discussion17:56
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gabriel-bezerraI can't edit the spreadsheet. How does it work?17:57
lucasagomesmaybe we can talk about that patch from JoshNang that allows exposing "fail" provision state in the api17:57
devanandagabriel-bezerra: difference there is, one team is working on adding a new driver. it's great, but not affecting other teams.17:57
jrollgabriel-bezerra: iirc cores can only update the spreadsheet17:57
lucasagomesI gave it a go today, but, it requires some stuff such as breaking the lock17:57
* lucasagomes grabs the link17:57
JoshNangyeah i think there are quite a few caveats in that patch17:58
lucasagomesyeah, I put some comments there... but I like the idea17:58
lucasagomeswe def need something like that17:58
devanandaJoshNang: i also had an idea -- s/fail/abort/ because that's a better verb to express the intent17:58
JoshNang++ for abort17:59
lucasagomesone thing tho DEPLOYWAIT already supported "deleted"17:59
lucasagomeswhich is kinda like an abort for DEPLOYWAIT17:59
lucasagomesso we may have some duplication there17:59
gabriel-bezerradevananda: I see.17:59
NobodyCam* last minute *17:59
gabriel-bezerrajroll: OK.17:59
lucasagomesanyway we got 1 min and we won't be able to solve it in that time17:59
devanandalucasagomes: yep, which is either inconsistent, or a breaking API change17:59
gabriel-bezerrarloo: thanks for adding it.17:59
lucasagomesdevananda, yeah18:00
dtantsurwe should anyway start with a spec, I guess..18:00
NobodyCamGreat meeting Thanks to Everyone!18:00
jrollgood meeting, thanks everyone18:00
devanandacheers, thanks all!18:00
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gabriel-bezerrathank you18:00
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