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| SergeyLukjanov | hey sahara folks :) | 14:01 |
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| crobertsrh | hello/ | 14:01 |
| tmckay | hey there folks | 14:01 |
| tosky | hi o/ | 14:01 |
| elmiko | hi | 14:01 |
| esikachev | hi! | 14:01 |
| huichun | hello | 14:01 |
| alazarev | o/ | 14:01 |
| pino|work | hi | 14:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 16 14:02:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:02 |
| vgridnev | o/ | 14:02 |
| weiting | hi | 14:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 14:02 |
| sreshetn1ak | o/ | 14:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov) | 14:02 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | folks, please | 14:02 |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, do we have a "talks" topic today? I have a question for you | 14:02 |
| crobertsrh | The move to /contrib has been merged | 14:02 |
| tmckay | or maybe open discussion ... | 14:03 |
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| crobertsrh | Lots of rebasing going on for our existing changes | 14:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, do you mean summit talks? | 14:03 |
| tmckay | yep | 14:03 |
| elmiko | crobertsrh: nice! | 14:03 |
| NikitaKonovalov | yes, @crobertsrh but anyway that's a great news | 14:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, we could chat in open discussion sections, I've not added the separated topic due to the proposal deadline already happened ;) | 14:03 |
| crobertsrh | We shall see how "great" the news is. Time will tell. | 14:03 |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, ok | 14:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yeah, I hope it'll help us merging patches | 14:04 |
| elmiko | +1 | 14:04 |
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| huichun | tmckay: Trevor ,recurrence spec has been updated as your suggest, thx~ I will do dub migration, so code begin, you can review the spec | 14:06 |
| tmckay | huichun, thanks! I'll look today | 14:06 |
| huichun | DB migration | 14:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 14:06 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | The HDP 2.2 plugin is almost ready. Actually the changes are on review but they are missing some test coverage | 14:07 |
| elmiko | working through the first part of the keystone sessions coding, also drafting the api v2 spec, and preparing for castellan integration | 14:07 |
| elmiko | i think apiv2 is going to take awhile... | 14:08 |
| venza | I started the process of deprecating Spark 1.0.0 from the spark plugin | 14:08 |
| kchen | We have already updates the CDH HDFS HA patches. Please help review. | 14:08 |
| vgridnev | Generally don't have any updates, I have several internal task, but nt. implementation is finished and ready for your reviews, as same as auto-configs providers | 14:08 |
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| alazarev | I just returned from parental leave, a lot of code review, thinking how to refactor heat engine code | 14:09 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | I've started some Rally benchmarking improvements. Those will allow to track hadoop jobs performance. | 14:09 |
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| tmckay | I need to catch up on reviews, too. | 14:09 |
| sreshetn1ak | I'm working on new HDP plugin | 14:10 |
| weiting | I am working on the bp for sahara manila hdfs driver. | 14:10 |
| sreshetn1ak | all features implemented, I will write spec on next week | 14:11 |
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| tosky | I pushed the changes for mako templates in test runner, many thanks to degorenko for the support | 14:12 |
| tosky | I did some damage on the way, though | 14:12 |
| tosky | for example some code needs to be restored because kilo has not the change, and tests from stable/kilo are used when testing stable/kilo | 14:13 |
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| tmckay | tosky, restored where? in master, or do you mean added to stable/kilo? | 14:14 |
| tosky | tmckay: in the sahara-ci-config code | 14:14 |
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| esikachev | +1 | 14:15 |
| tosky | there are other issues I see around (for example here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177280/ ) related to scenario tests not working with kilo | 14:15 |
| tosky | there are details to fix (like how to handle some scenario which is valid in master but not in some supported branch - for now just kilo), but SergeyLukjanov promised a spec :) | 14:15 |
| vgridnev | tosky, what bad with that? | 14:15 |
| tosky | vgridnev: as I mentioned, if we want to always use tests from master, we need to find a way to support all branches with minimal changes | 14:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, yeah | 14:17 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 14:17 |
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| vgridnev | I believe that we should use different templates for each branch. | 14:17 |
| tosky | I would say not different for each branch, but maybe by feature | 14:18 |
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| vgridnev | Can you give an example about what do you mean in "maybe by feature"? Separate template for feature? | 14:20 |
| tosky | for the case above, the template where you specify the constraints should work also with master, so you could call it still vanilla-2.6.0 and call the one with constraints vanilla-2.6.0-something, using it mainly for kilo | 14:20 |
| tosky | just thinking aloud | 14:21 |
| tosky | this should all be part of the spec | 14:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, yup | 14:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, what's about talks? | 14:22 |
| tmckay | oh, thanks | 14:23 |
| tmckay | just a logistical note. The "Lessons learned" talk I see show up twice in my list, both mark "received". The Sahara/Ironic talk is there once, but not marked "received" | 14:24 |
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| tmckay | what does all this mean? | 14:24 |
| tmckay | Is the Sahara+Ironic talk not submitted correctly, or something? And why is "Lessons" listed twice? | 14:24 |
| * tmckay thinks maybe Sergey has been down this road before :) | 14:24 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, hm, looking | 14:25 |
| tosky | tmckay: did you receive an email about the talk submission? | 14:26 |
| weiting | In my experience, after I submit a topic, it become received, just like you said. | 14:26 |
| pino|work | tosky: our is received too | 14:27 |
| tosky | yep | 14:27 |
| tmckay | I got an initial speaker notification from another talk someone added me to a couple days ago, but I have not got another one since. My presentation list shows them all, however. All are marked "received" except for the Sahara+Ironic (but if it wasn't in the system, then I couldn't see it :) ) So I don't know what "received" means | 14:27 |
| tosky | for the record, pino|work and me submitted a presentation about libguestfs and image building, which will touch also Sahara images, and an alternative runner (instead of diskimage-builder) | 14:28 |
| vgridnev | tosky, I really don't understand what we going to do with scenario tests. So, I would prefer to wait some spec about that. Now I can remove changes for current templates in my patch, is it that ok? | 14:28 |
| tmckay | what I mean is, Sergey submitted Sahara+Ironic. I was added as a speaker | 14:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, I've mailed summit@o.o about it, I don't know | 14:29 |
| NikitaKonovalov | btw, I also don't see 'recieved" mark on Ironic talk | 14:29 |
| tmckay | ok, thanks. Looked fishy to me | 14:29 |
| tosky | vgridnev: the direction is to move scenario tests in their own repository and make it branchless like tempest, so that tests from master should work on all supported branches | 14:29 |
| tmckay | NikitaKonovalov, ack. I see you there, but not "received" either | 14:30 |
| tosky | vgridnev: this was proposed few months ago, before the Summit, where I think the issue was discussed (but I was not there), and SergeyLukjanov will send a spec about this | 14:30 |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, did you also mention to them that "Lessons learned" is listed twice? | 14:30 |
| tmckay | that seems equally bad | 14:30 |
| tosky | vgridnev: that said, the details on how to implement this, like how to deal with cases like this, are not clear (at least for me) yet | 14:31 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, will do | 14:31 |
| vgridnev | So, anyway I will remove all changes until full design is not approved | 14:32 |
| vgridnev | changes for templates* | 14:32 |
| tosky | vgridnev: if the existing scenario works even after your changes (which should be, you are "simply" not tracking the new feature), I would say: either create a new template with a different name (better), or remove it for now | 14:32 |
| elmiko | speaking of all this, NikitaKonovalov did you get the invite to the sparkhara talk? | 14:32 |
| tosky | if anyone else have some other idea or suggestion about this (templates and branchless tests, please share! | 14:32 |
| NikitaKonovalov | elmiko: I see myself added to the talk, but no email if you mean that | 14:33 |
| elmiko | bummer... | 14:33 |
| NikitaKonovalov | and it is marked recieved, whatever it means | 14:34 |
| elmiko | yea, i saw it was recieved, just wanted to make sure you got the email. but i imagine we'll have to wait or something | 14:35 |
| NikitaKonovalov | elmiko: what the email topic should look like? may be I've missed it | 14:35 |
| elmiko | NikitaKonovalov: not sure what the subject will be | 14:36 |
| elmiko | oh well, you're on there. that's good enough =) | 14:36 |
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| weiting | The subject title should be like "OpenStack Summit - Tokyo 2015 - Speaker Notification" | 14:37 |
| elmiko | thanks weiting | 14:38 |
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| tmckay | I think it might only send a single "Speaker Notification". | 14:43 |
| tmckay | If you are listed on multiple talks, I am not sure you will get another after the first one | 14:43 |
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| elmiko | ah, ok | 14:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | no ideas about the submissions, hope, folks will answer | 14:46 |
| SergeyLukjanov | there were no issues last two years ;) | 14:46 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anything else to chat about today? | 14:46 |
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| elmiko | nothing from me | 14:47 |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, problem with scale :) 2 years ago it was smaller | 14:48 |
| tmckay | nothing else from me | 14:48 |
| tosky | nothing else from me | 14:49 |
| weiting_ | I got one question, | 14:50 |
| weiting_ | Have you ever take a look at Amazon Data Pipeline | 14:50 |
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| weiting_ | A new solution from Amazon | 14:50 |
| elmiko | interesting | 14:50 |
| weiting_ | I think it is a good idea for Sahara EDP | 14:51 |
| elmiko | do they have a public api? | 14:51 |
| weiting_ | Yes, it also have include a rest api | 14:51 |
| elmiko | neat | 14:51 |
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| alazarev | weiting_, just read description, can't get the benefits, one more abstract layer? | 14:53 |
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| weiting_ | Anyway, I just thought this is what the customer want, they would like to have a way to control the data flow. | 14:53 |
| weiting_ | alazarev, yes another abstract layer | 14:54 |
| alazarev | weiting_, we have it too, called "datasource" :) | 14:54 |
| weiting_ | alazarev, yes, a poor version I think. | 14:55 |
| weiting_ | :( | 14:55 |
| huichun | I just think Ozzie engine may be not stable for edp jobs, performance issue | 14:56 |
| huichun | maybe we can find a substitution | 14:56 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | 2 mins left | 14:57 |
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| alazarev | huichun, console calls? like for spark | 14:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 16 14:58:32 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thanks folks! | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-07-16-14.02.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-07-16-14.02.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-07-16-14.02.log.html | 14:58 |
| kchen | thanks. bye | 14:58 |
| esikachev | bye | 14:58 |
| elmiko | weiting_, huichun, if you have a solid idea make a spec, let the group discuss | 14:58 |
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| huichun | bye | 14:58 |
| huichun | ok | 14:59 |
| weiting_ | Ok, got it. | 14:59 |
| huichun | elmiko: ok | 14:59 |
| elmiko | =) | 14:59 |
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| carl_baldwin | hi | 15:00 |
| yamamoto_ | hi | 15:00 |
| pavel_bondar | hi | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 16 15:00:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| tidwellr | hi | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| Vikram | hi | 15:00 |
| regXboi | morning | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | I bet Liberty-2 is coming up soon. Let me see... | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Looks like we have — at most — two weeks. | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Oh, | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 15:02 |
| johnbelamaric | hello | 15:02 |
| regXboi | under "apologies for absence" - I've got another meeting at the bottom of the hour, so I'll have to do readback of the second half and followup on ML or in channel | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: ack | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Bugs | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ping | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | hi | 15:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | Fix committed for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1465434 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1465434 in neutron "DVR issues with supporting multiple subnets per network on DVR routers - PortbindingContext does not have the status." [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | Great work Swami | 15:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | Also had a DVR regression sneak in but I think that should be fixed (or soon) | 15:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | haleyb: Do you have a link, by chance, to the review? | 15:04 |
| * carl_baldwin can’t find it at the moment. | 15:04 | |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201907/ | 15:05 |
| haleyb | merged this morning | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: thanks, excellent. | 15:05 |
| haleyb | there was a follow-up | 15:05 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202274/ | 15:05 |
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| haleyb | that needs an update | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | dvr job was clean on 201907. Let’s keep an eye on it and get the job voting soon. | 15:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will follow up with Swami on 202274 | 15:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | Thanks, haleyb | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other bugs to discuss? | 15:07 |
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| haleyb | np, it does remind me to be cautious of the aggressive mocking done in unit tests | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: a fix was merged for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1323766. I had a conversation with dustin last week and concluded it was different to | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1323766 in neutron "Incorrect Floating IP behavior in dual stack or ipv6 only network" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Dustin Lundquist (dlundquist) | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1469322 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1469322 in neutron "Associating a floatingip with a dual stack port requires the fixed-address to be specified" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Dustin Lundquist (dlundquist) | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks for following up on that. | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | this last one is still in progress | 15:08 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Will try to remember to ping amototoki about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1471316 later today | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1471316 in neutron "_get_subnetpool_id does not return None when a cidr is specified and a subnetpool_id isn't." [High,In progress] - Assigned to John Davidge (john-davidge) | 15:08 |
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| mlavalle | but at least we are not confused with the similarities of those two bugs | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: Thanks, I’ve been in a holding pattern on that one. It will help to ping amotoki | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: the one that swami fixed is the same amuller was inquiring about last week, right? | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: I’ll send him email too. | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Need more context... | 15:10 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Great, thanks. I’m going to be in meetings for the rest of the day so that would be a great help | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will ping amotoki on 1471316 | 15:10 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: nm... i answerd my question myself.... :-) | 15:11 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ok | 15:11 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Routed networks | 15:11 |
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| carl_baldwin | Not much here. markmcclain has provided some feedback and caused me to rethink some things. I will digest and send mail to the ML. | 15:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | I’ve been thinking this for a while but there really isn’t much chance for anything making Liberty on this subject. This will be a priority for Mitaka (did I get the name right?). | 15:13 |
| regXboi | yes - that's the right name | 15:13 |
| * regXboi double-checks his mailboxes | 15:14 | |
| carl_baldwin | #topic BGP dynamic routing | 15:14 |
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| tidwellr | hi | 15:15 |
| * carl_baldwin curious if the Japanese characters will render correctly in everyone’s IRC. | 15:15 | |
| Vikram | hi | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: hi | 15:15 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: is there any chance (if additional resources were found) of getting bgp listeners and RIB in as part of this in Liberty? | 15:15 |
| tidwellr | doubtful | 15:15 |
| * regXboi sighs and says "ok" | 15:15 | |
| regXboi | ok | 15:15 |
| tidwellr | I think someone needs to lay out a use case for it | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Honestly, resources won’t help at this point. We’re almost to Liberty-2 and we’d have to go through design. | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | mythical man-month and all. | 15:16 |
| regXboi | tidwellr: I think use cases are pretty easy to come by | 15:16 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: that was the thing worrying me | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: It will make a good start. | 15:16 |
| tidwellr | ok, maybe start an RFE and take the discussion there? | 15:16 |
| neiljerram | Hi there, sorry for coming in late... | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Vikram: How is the rest going? | 15:16 |
| regXboi | ok, give me the action to lay out use cases for listener | 15:17 |
| regXboi | on an etherpad | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | Any chance we can have functional code by around Liberty-2? | 15:17 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I encourage people to add their own actions. It is allowed by the meeting bot. | 15:17 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: ah - did not realize that | 15:18 |
| tidwellr | I'm proposing some changes that should simplify things and help us go faster | 15:18 |
| Vikram | Carl: Me and Ryan working towards the agent.. | 15:18 |
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| regXboi | #action regXboi to start etherpad for collecting use cases for implementing bgp listener and RIB | 15:18 |
| tidwellr | the biggest things outstanding are really the agent the DB queries that scoop all the routes we need to advertise | 15:18 |
| Vikram | It's good Numan will also help us for this project, so i except the code should be ready soon | 15:18 |
| tidwellr | I think we have a good head start on the agent, the DB queries are lots of fun ;) and I'm working through those | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | Just as a time check. It will likely take a few weeks for review and merging code. And the code must merge for Liberty-3. Keep that it mind. | 15:20 |
| tidwellr | Liberty-2 is a noble goal, not too far out of reach | 15:20 |
| * mlavalle also having fun with db queries | 15:20 | |
| regXboi | tidwellr: is there an early draft of the DB queries? | 15:20 |
| Vikram | tidwellr: I have also started the work for driver. Patch will be out soon | 15:20 |
| * regXboi has some experience crafting queries | 15:20 | |
| carl_baldwin | Vikram: thanks. Be sure to ping me and others who are interested when there is something to review. I gave up reading gerrit notifications long ago (too high volume). | 15:21 |
| devvesa | will the agent query the db? | 15:21 |
| Vikram | carl_baldwin: ok | 15:21 |
| tidwellr | queries are server-side | 15:21 |
| devvesa | tidwellr: gotcha | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything more to cover here? | 15:22 |
| regXboi | tidwellr, mlavelle - if either of you need help with crafting, i'd be willing to spend some cycles | 15:22 |
| tidwellr | regXboi: SQL and sqlalchemy are not the trick, it's navigating the neutron schema | 15:22 |
| regXboi | tidwellr: understood | 15:22 |
| tidwellr | some pointers are always welcome | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | regXboi: I'll ping you if I get stuck thanks :-) | 15:23 |
| tidwellr | regXboi: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201621/4/neutron/db/bgp_speaker_db.py for the first pass at what I've got | 15:23 |
| regXboi | tidwellr: ok, will look | 15:23 |
| regXboi | and will comment tere | 15:23 |
| regXboi | er there | 15:23 |
| tidwellr | I know that query is broken, but it's a start | 15:24 |
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| regXboi | sure | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | Are we good on BGP? | 15:25 |
| regXboi | looks like it | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic IPAM | 15:25 |
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| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: johnbelamaric: hi | 15:25 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: hi | 15:25 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: hi | 15:25 |
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| johnbelamaric | pavel_bondar has updated #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183099/ | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | One more patch to go. | 15:26 |
| johnbelamaric | i am reviewing it now | 15:26 |
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| johnbelamaric | *crossing his fingers* | 15:26 |
| pavel_bondar | I have added some more refactoring and did additional cleanup | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | Ok, I plan to give it another go tomorrow. I tried getting through it, just ran out of time. | 15:26 |
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| johnbelamaric | Ok, thanks | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | Or, maybe today. johnbelamaric, ping me when you’ve been through it. | 15:27 |
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| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: will do - today would be great :) | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | I don’t want to delay it if I can help it. | 15:27 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: thanks, it's appreciated | 15:28 |
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| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: thanks | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | Is there any follow-up to consider after this patch merges? | 15:28 |
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| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: not that I know of immediately. there were some items along the way. pavel - how are the CI's looking with it enabled by default | 15:29 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: do we need some kind of migration to IPAM? | 15:29 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: earlier we considered only green fields deployment will use pluggable ipam | 15:30 |
| johnbelamaric | pavel_bondar: that will be needed if we were to make it default. it should be added at that time or before | 15:30 |
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| johnbelamaric | pavel_bondar: but that would just be for reference driver of course. alternate driver authors will need their own migrations | 15:30 |
| regXboi | are we planning on making it default in Liberty? | 15:30 |
| johnbelamaric | regXboi: no | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: johnbelamaric: What migration is needed to switch to pluggable reference implementation? | 15:30 |
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| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: you need to populate the reference driver's tables with the subnet info, etc. | 15:31 |
| regXboi | johnbelamaric: thx, I didn't think so, so I was getting nervous | 15:31 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: the ref driver stores it in its own private area, so that it operates like an external driver | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: ok. We should be thinking about that for early Mitaka | 15:32 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: makes sense | 15:32 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: sound good to me, thanks | 15:32 |
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| carl_baldwin | Anything else on IPAM? | 15:32 |
| pavel_bondar | no from my side | 15:33 |
| johnbelamaric | nope, that's it i think | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic ML3 router plugin | 15:33 |
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| carl_baldwin | We’ll probably save this one for later in the interest of time. | 15:35 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic DNS | 15:35 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: hi | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | As you know, I've pushed wip code for the internal side | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | It was good to start reviewing yesterday. | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | I got reviews from you and others, so i know i didn't go off the rails ;-) | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | my goal is to have this code functional by the end of this week | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: That is great. | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | also starting this week the external side | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | and the nova side we are going to address with a FFE | 15:37 |
| * mlavalle wonders if that is the right term | 15:37 | |
| mlavalle | so working to have this done in Liberty | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | My concern is mostly around the new model. | 15:38 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200952/3/neutron/db/models_v2.py | 15:38 |
| * mlavalle listening | 15:38 | |
| mlavalle | you want to discuss here or is it already in gerrit? | 15:38 |
| carl_baldwin | I had imagined just a dns_name attached to a port. Either directly or with a table with port_id and dns_name as columns. | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | The model has much more. We don’t need to discuss it here but I wanted to bring it up so others like HenryG and Ann (don’t know nick) could go look. | 15:39 |
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| mlavalle | i think it might be simplified. I just used the IPAllocation table as a guide...... | 15:40 |
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| mlavalle | but yeah, let's discuss it in gerrit | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | thanks for the comments... that is what i needed at this point | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Let’s iterate on it a bit in the next couple of days. I think we can get it simplified but maybe there is good reason for a little more than what I had imagined. | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Keep up the good work. | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | will do | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | that's all i have today | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Address Scopes | 15:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | I have this working locally. I have been trying to get patches in to shape and spoon feeding them to gerrit. | 15:42 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/address-scopes,n,z | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | Vikram and Numan have patches up too. | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197552/ | 15:44 |
| johnbelamaric | nice! | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | Let’s get these reviewed. Looks like good work. | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic IPv6 | 15:45 |
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| carl_baldwin | haleyb: HenryG: john-davidge: others: Anything on IPv6 that we haven’t already discussed? | 15:46 |
| haleyb | nothing from me | 15:47 |
| john-davidge | On the PD front, just to say thanks for the reviews again this week. Freshly rebased patches coming soon | 15:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: will you ping me when they’re ready? I’d like to give a little more priority to them but I miss a lot in the volume of updates I see. | 15:48 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Sure thing | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 15:48 |
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| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: volume of PD patches at the moment mostly due to keeping up with IPAM changes | 15:49 |
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| john-davidge | I have to run, thanks everyone | 15:50 |
| neiljerram | Just a brief note... | 15:50 |
| neiljerram | I'm continuing work on 'routed' network as per https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198439/, so would appreciate any further input on that. | 15:51 |
| neiljerram | Going to try to post complete code for this in the next 2-3 days | 15:51 |
| neiljerram | </note> | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: Watch for an email from me about the routed segments on the ML. mark mcclain has sent me back to the drawing board a little bit. Considering his feedback. | 15:52 |
| neiljerram | carl_baldwin: will do. (I heard that feedback too...) | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin to send mail to ML about routed segments | 15:53 |
| neiljerram | carl_baldwin: FWIW, personally still interested in pluggable IPAM as a possible ingredient there. | 15:54 |
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| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: That was essentially the feedback, to make IPAM aware of physical topology. We had considered it briefly before. | 15:55 |
| carl_baldwin | There are certain things that the model that I proposed allows that may be more difficult with that model. | 15:56 |
| neiljerram | Perhaps worth a further look, though. | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: +1 It is worth a further look. | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: What are you thoughts on this? | 15:57 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: sorry, let me catch up quickly | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: I thought you had some feedback at the mid-cycle but I don’t remember the specifics. | 15:58 |
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| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: seems like a valid use case. we do now allow the port to be used in IPAM decisions, though it is not in the reference driver. in the boot sequence does nova pass the VM associated with the new port? you could get the host there | 15:59 |
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| elmiko | hi | 16:00 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: i recall discussing the model, i think I have to catch up on the commetns on Neil's patch | 16:00 |
| neiljerram | johnbelamaric: I believe so, at least the host is available as binding:host_id in the mechanism driver code | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Right now, binding to the host happens after port creation and IPAM. This would have to be changed. | 16:00 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: i see | 16:01 |
| neiljerram | carl_baldwin: Ah, that's a big spanner in the works! | 16:01 |
| elmiko | are you guys almost done, we have a meeting here now =) | 16:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | I may be fuzzy on the details. | 16:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 16 16:01:52 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-07-16-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-07-16-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| elmiko | thanks carl_baldwin | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-07-16-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| carl_baldwin | elmiko: Please accept my apologies | 16:02 |
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| elmiko | carl_baldwin: of course =) | 16:02 |
| elmiko | #startmeeting api wg | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 16 16:02:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api wg)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:02 |
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| elmiko | #topic agenda | 16:02 |
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| elmiko | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:03 |
| elmiko | anyone around? | 16:03 |
| stevelle | o/ | 16:04 |
| elmiko | weeeeell, might be a short one today | 16:04 |
| elmiko | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:04 |
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| elmiko | the only 2 action items were for me | 16:05 |
| elmiko | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-07-09-00.00.html | 16:05 |
| elmiko | i have made a patch to etoews dashboard in the gerrit dashabords repo | 16:05 |
| elmiko | and i think it will take a few more, we need to move away from using -2 as method for marking freezes | 16:06 |
| elmiko | #topic guidelines | 16:06 |
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| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:06 |
| stevelle | elmiko: I seem to recall issues with gerrit supported options being limited which means that -2 is the defacto, but I agree we should find another way. | 16:06 |
| stevelle | or a human process to resolve that | 16:07 |
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| elmiko | yea, human might be the best but then the dashboard doesn't work as well | 16:07 |
| elmiko | i talked with the folks in -infra and they seemed to indicate that we could use -A instead of -2 because it can be overridden by a core | 16:07 |
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| stevelle | we should carry forward that question till we have more members to brainstorm ideas perhaps then bring those to the list | 16:08 |
| elmiko | good idea | 16:08 |
| stevelle | but I think that -A sounds like a good idea to bring up | 16:08 |
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| elmiko | #idea talk more about freeze methodologies when there are more bodies present | 16:09 |
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| elmiko | as for guidelines, i think there are 4 that we could freeze this week | 16:09 |
| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/196918 | 16:09 |
| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/186526 | 16:09 |
| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/184358 | 16:09 |
| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/183698 | 16:09 |
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| elmiko | i'm going to post these into freeze, and i guess i can just mark them as freezed in the comments | 16:10 |
| elmiko | should i -A on them? | 16:10 |
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| stevelle | just before you send out the mail to the list, I suppose yes. but that last one already has a -2 | 16:12 |
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| elmiko | yea, i know. gonna need to bug etoews again to remove it | 16:12 |
| elmiko | any guidelines you wanted to discuss stevelle ? | 16:12 |
| stevelle | I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196918/ might be a little premature though | 16:13 |
| stevelle | not sure | 16:13 |
| elmiko | hmm, my concern is that we aren't getting more reviews on it and it's been over a week now | 16:13 |
| elmiko | if we toss it on the fire, so to say, we'll definitely get some opinions | 16:14 |
| miguelgrinberg | sorry to be late guys | 16:14 |
| stevelle | the last two are definitely mature enough. | 16:14 |
| stevelle | welcome miguelgrinberg | 16:14 |
| elmiko | no worries miguelgrinberg | 16:14 |
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| elmiko | stevelle, would you mind commenting on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196918/ | 16:14 |
| stevelle | I will look at it carefully today | 16:15 |
| elmiko | i don't have a problem holding it back, i just think we need more reviews on it | 16:15 |
| stevelle | I am fine if you want to propose it for freeze. | 16:15 |
| elmiko | ok, let's send it out and see what the community thinks then | 16:15 |
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| elmiko | #action elmiko to freeze 4 proposals | 16:16 |
| elmiko | #topic guideline pipeline | 16:16 |
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| elmiko | so, etoews has been working on the dashboard and it has been merged | 16:16 |
| elmiko | #link http://ghostcloud.net/openstack_gerrit_dashboards/dashboard_api-wg.html | 16:16 |
| elmiko | i'm not sure if these get published elsewhere, but he wanted some sort of link in the agenda | 16:16 |
| elmiko | any thoughts? | 16:17 |
| elmiko | ok, i'll keep researching this then | 16:18 |
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| elmiko | #action elmiko followup on dashboard linking into agenda | 16:19 |
| elmiko | #topic merge guidelines | 16:19 |
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| elmiko | so, i had wanted to talk about the whole -2 thing | 16:19 |
| elmiko | but maybe we'll just push this till we have more folks | 16:20 |
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| * salv-orlando is lurking, maybe others are too | 16:20 | |
| stevelle | I just need to look at the dashboard a little more to form an opinion | 16:20 |
| elmiko | stevelle: awesome, any suggestions would be great | 16:21 |
| elmiko | i guess my main issue at this point is the whole -2 thing | 16:21 |
| elmiko | we are using it heavily in the dashboard to help build the freeze based categories | 16:21 |
| stevelle | yeah, that does feel like the most pressing issue | 16:21 |
| elmiko | which is cool, but it causes issues on the merge side | 16:22 |
| stevelle | beyond the actual guidelines and reviews | 16:22 |
| elmiko | yea | 16:22 |
| miguelgrinberg | it's odd that the same review is in frozen by needs feedback, and again in ready to merge | 16:22 |
| elmiko | miguelgrinberg: yea, i posted a fix for that already | 16:22 |
| miguelgrinberg | ah ok, great | 16:22 |
| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202633/ | 16:23 |
| elmiko | etoews original work got merged a little quicker than i had expected, but no worries, that's what new reviews are for =) | 16:23 |
| elmiko | i guess on this topic too, it might be nice to address the idea of freezed proposals that get rejected | 16:24 |
| elmiko | i'm concerned that they can languish after failing to gain acceptance in the wider community | 16:24 |
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| elmiko | not sure that we can do anything to speed that process up, but just an issue i suppose | 16:25 |
| elmiko | for example, #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183599/ | 16:25 |
| elmiko | jaypipes ^^ | 16:26 |
| elmiko | i'm not sure where to go on this one, there are some good comments but i think it needs another spin | 16:26 |
| jaypipes | elmiko: seems like folks are in disagreement about it fundamentally to me. | 16:27 |
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| elmiko | jaypipes: ah, ok. should we drop it or ..? | 16:27 |
| jaypipes | elmiko: not sure :(* | 16:27 |
| elmiko | ok, maybe something for the ML | 16:28 |
| salv-orlando | is there any other point of contention beyond should vs must? | 16:28 |
| elmiko | i dunno, that seemed like the major bone | 16:28 |
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| elmiko | so, maybe change to should not and add a little description on why? | 16:30 |
| elmiko | does that sound reasonable | 16:31 |
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| elmiko | jaypipes: does that sound ok to you? | 16:34 |
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| jaypipes | elmiko: sure I could do that | 16:34 |
| elmiko | awesome | 16:34 |
| elmiko | #topic APIImpact | 16:35 |
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| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+AND+(message:ApiImpact+OR+message:APIImpact),n,z | 16:36 |
| elmiko | any reviews folks would like to discuss? | 16:36 |
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| elmiko | #topic open discussion | 16:38 |
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| elmiko | any other business? | 16:38 |
| stevelle | nothing this week | 16:39 |
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| elmiko | if not, we'll take 20 minutes back from the meeting gods ;) | 16:39 |
| elmiko | ok then, thanks everybody! | 16:40 |
| elmiko | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 16 16:40:37 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-07-16-16.02.html | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-07-16-16.02.txt | 16:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-07-16-16.02.log.html | 16:40 |
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| stevelle | thanks elmiko | 16:41 |
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| docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 16 17:00:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| docaedo | #topic rollcall | 17:00 |
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| docaedo | Who made it today? :) Hopefully more than me (otherwise, this will be a relatively short meeting!) | 17:01 |
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| docaedo | (crickets) | 17:03 |
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| docaedo | OK guess I'll take my roadmap conversation to the mailing list, and also see if we need to find a new meeting time in hopes of improving engagement | 17:06 |
| docaedo | #endmeeting | 17:06 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 16 17:06:35 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2015/app_catalog.2015-07-16-17.00.html | 17:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: songole mageshgv igordcard: hi | 18:01 |
| ivar-lazzaro | hi | 18:01 |
| mageshgv | Hi | 18:01 |
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| igordcard | hi | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ransari: hi | 18:01 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:01 |
| ransari | hi | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 16 18:01:55 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
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| songole | hi | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#July_16th.2C_9th_2015 | 18:02 |
| Yi | hi | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | try to get to some of the items we did not cover in last weeks agenda | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Yi: hi | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | update on the kilo release - we are still working on it | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we have users who are also testing this, so it would be good to incorporate their input and provide any major fixes before we release | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | its not a bug, but a criticial issue is that the GBP py27 gate is broken | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this happened after there was an update to the global requirements yesterday | 18:05 |
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| ransari | @SumitNaiksatam: which bug are you referring to? | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have patch to update our test-requirements (thanks mageshgv for your input): | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/202668 | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: did not file it as a bug | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | since update of requirements is an ongoing process | 18:06 |
| ransari | @SumitNaiksatam ok | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the patch has passed the py27 gate now, but waiting on the integration test | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the upstream gate is pretty busy and backed up | 18:07 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: I was just testing that patch now | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: ah ok | 18:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: thanks | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | one thing to note is that with the new hacking requirements, pep8 was failing on our code | 18:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so i slyly reverted back to the earlier hacking version | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | in a separate patch we should update the hacking version, and fix those pep8 issues | 18:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | requesting the team to keep a watch on the above patch and help merge when you see it pass the integration job | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we cant merge other patches until that fix merges | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont think we are tracking any other critical priority bugs this week | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other bugs anyone wants to bring up? | 18:09 |
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| mageshgv | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198052/ | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay so moving on | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | oh | 18:10 |
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| mageshgv | We have Service Node configuration as updateable parameter in the spec, but in implementation it is different today | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: this is #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470866 | 18:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1470866 in Group Based Policy "Service node config should be an updateable field" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Magesh GV (magesh-gv) | 18:11 |
| ransari | @SumitNaiksatam important because without this support, service node config requires disruptive re-deploy of the chain | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: ransari: okay | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: i provided some minor comments | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | other than that, i believe the ratinale is that if a driver cannot support an update it will throw an exception? | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *rationale | 18:12 |
| ransari | @mageshv: you mentioned it needs to be updated ? | 18:12 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: Thanks. Will post an updated patch once our py27 gets fixed | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: ok | 18:12 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: yes, a driver that does not support update will reject it | 18:13 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | just a general comment that in the specs we are using different conventions to describe our resrouces | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | in #link https://github.com/stackforge/group-based-policy-specs/blob/master/specs/juno/group-based-policy-abstraction.rst | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we have the resource map | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but in #link https://github.com/stackforge/group-based-policy-specs/blob/master/specs/juno/group-based-policy-service-chaining.rst | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we use a tabular convention | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | confusing for the reader and also to track | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | in the later we use “W” to indicate both create and update | 18:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | anyone have any objections with allowing support of config updates to instantiated nodes? | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am referring to #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198052/ | 18:16 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other bugs to discuss? | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | moving on | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Integration tests | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | just a quick update here: | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | in #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202263/ i am experimenting with adding rally tests | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ideally this should not be a part of the same integration job | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but we are already setting up devstack, so i will try and see how this behaves | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the rally tests are being pulled from here: #link https://github.com/group-policy/rally/tree/dev | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | written by ajay (we had discussed this a few weeks back) | 18:19 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | comments/questions? | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Packaging Update | 18:20 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: anything you want to update the team on? | 18:20 |
| rkukura | nothing new this week | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps based on your earlier meeting today ;-) | 18:20 |
| rkukura | I did meet with some Red Hat people today, but we didn’t really cover much specific to GBP | 18:21 |
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| rkukura | I think we can get momentum going again on that, though | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Docs | 18:22 |
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| ransari | @rkukura: do we expect updated Juno rpms? | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #undo | 18:22 |
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| rkukura | I still hope to do those, but have been spending way too much time trying to get the nova node driver to work right | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you can let the team know if we can help in any way on the rpms | 18:24 |
| ransari | @rkukura: thnaks | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Docs | 18:25 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so we have #link https://github.com/stackforge/group-based-policy/tree/master/doc/source | 18:25 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the way most other projects are using this is for “devref” | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | e.g.: in nova #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/47b233f988bddd1272e4a1bc02be97f15701a8ca | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we currenly have GBP overview here | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it will help to have devref for things like writing node drivers for the new node composition plugin | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just wanted to bring it to everyone’s attention | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | currently we are lacking sorely on good API documentation | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and on good developer documentation | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so if you have ideas on how do this, and/or want to contribute, please let me know | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on a related note, we are also missing a python SDK for GBP | 18:27 |
| ransari | @umitNaiksatam I can help out | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | similar to #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/SDK-Development/PythonOpenStackSDK | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: that will be great | 18:28 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: What is needed for a python SDK beyond python-gbpclient? | 18:28 |
| rkukura | mainly docs? | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i agree one case use the client lib, but people like to have a more evolved library to work with | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this was the feedback from a few uses | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *users | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and, yes, it is self documenting | 18:30 |
| rkukura | so a layer above python-gbpclient? | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yeah | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: python-openstacksdk has python bindings for most openstack projects (which were earlier part of the integrated release) | 18:31 |
| rkukura | its not clear to me if this uses the python-*client libs, or is something different. Also, how is it related to the old OpenStack client effort? | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: this would be different from the openstack client efforts | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and my understanding is that it would use the client libs | 18:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://github.com/stackforge/python-openstacksdk/tree/master/openstack | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Stable branches for clients | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i checked with the folks in the team if they were okay with this idea | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | other projects are already doing it | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | most everyone seems to be in agreement | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this will allow us to backport fixes | 18:34 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | if there is no disagreement, i can go ahead and create stable client branches for juno and kilo | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this does not affect the client version numbering | 18:35 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: should we use 1.0.x for stable/kilo? | 18:35 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I have not looked into how the other client library stable branches are being versioned, so I’m not sure | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i am mostly asking (and this is to the team in general), if we can transition to client version 1.0 (currently we are 0.9.x) | 18:37 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we dont have to decide now, but we will soon get to that point | 18:37 |
| rkukura | I’d think so - we can always go to 2.x if/when we make incompatible changes | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yeah | 18:38 |
| ransari | @SumitNaiksatam: good to have back ports to juno client branch | 18:38 |
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| rkukura | Are there API changes in kilo/master that we have not and are not backporting to juno? | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: okay, we will update the minor version number to reflect that | 18:39 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: there at least a couple i think of | 18:39 |
| ransari | @rkukura: We haven't back ported service profile changes to juno based client | 18:39 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: yes, that is one of those tow | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *two | 18:40 |
| rkukura | OK | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the other one is with mageshgv’s patch we discussed earlier today | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | there is at least a third one - | 18:40 |
| ransari | @SumitNaiksatam: mageshv patch is not merged in Kilo | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: yes, but we expect it will | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | when creating or updating a group there is a provide and consume attribute | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this is a dict | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but the format of the dict is confusing to most users | 18:41 |
| ransari | @SumitNaiksatam: ok . | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | (the use of scope) | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we are planning to change that, though the change can be done in a backward compatible way (such that you can support the old format as well for one cycle of deprecation) | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | a fourth change would have been to rename external-policy to external-group | 18:42 |
| ransari | yes, use of scope is confusing | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | in general, rkukura per your question, this might be a good time to indentify (and perhaps the last chance) to introduce a changes to the API | 18:44 |
| rkukura | right | 18:44 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so everyone please thing through, and if you have any issues with the current usage, please dont hesitate to raise them | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Node drivers | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: any updates you want to share? | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: anything at your end with the nova driver? | 18:46 |
| rkukura | I’m kind of stuck with some weird lockup between neutron and nova | 18:47 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: I am now more focused on TS than before, so you can expect news during this month | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: thats great | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:47 |
| rkukura | Neutron stops accepting new requests, including those being made from nova. | 18:48 |
| igordcard | the nova node driver would be helpful, but I will temporarily create a dummy node driver that receives port IDs already created, to automate debugging and development | 18:48 |
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| rkukura | Having neutron call nova in a separate thread does not seem to help | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: okay | 18:48 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ah, so the multiple api threads did not work, darn | 18:49 |
| rkukura | that didn’t solve it either | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so in your opinion this is because the nova driver is running inside the neutron process space? | 18:49 |
| rkukura | the actual POST call to nova seems to return the instance ID to neutron, but then novaclient tries to do a get on that ID, and nova within that does a get_port, which neutron doesn’t respond to. | 18:50 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I have no theory on why it shoudn’t work inside neutron | 18:50 |
| rkukura | I’m probably doing something blatently wrong | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: would it possible to post a WIP patch so folks in the team can look and perhaps provide some ideas? | 18:51 |
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| rkukura | Maybe - the little bit of code is a real mess - I’ve really just been experimenting with different approaches | 18:51 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:52 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: there are a few references to “reference” as regards the older “simple chain driver”, we should remove those | 18:52 |
| rkukura | I’ve got a couple more ideas to try, but will try to post something for others to look at if I don’t get it solved this week | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks | 18:52 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:53 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i think Ivar had to leave for another meeting, so we will skip his patches (but please do review them) | 18:53 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:53 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | the deadline for talk submissions to Tokyo was yesterday | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Ivar has submitted a proposal for the hands-on lab | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else anyone wants to discuss today? | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | or we can wrap up early today ;-P | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alright, thanks everyone for attending! | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 18:56 |
| rkukura | thanks SumitNaiksatam! | 18:56 |
| mageshgv | bye | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 16 18:56:11 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:56 |
| rkukura | bye | 18:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-07-16-18.01.html | 18:56 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-07-16-18.01.txt | 18:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-07-16-18.01.log.html | 18:56 |
| igordcard | bye | 18:56 |
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| mattgriffin | med_, hello! | 20:00 |
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| megm_ | Hi, Matt! | 20:03 |
| mattgriffin | med_, need a few more min please | 20:03 |
| megm_ | Sounds good | 20:03 |
| mattgriffin | oops .. megm_ :) | 20:03 |
| mattgriffin | hey med_ . hope you're doing well :) | 20:03 |
| megm_ | I knew what you meant ;-) | 20:03 |
| megm_ | I am doing very well -- how about you? | 20:04 |
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| mattgriffin | megm_, ok.. back | 20:07 |
| mattgriffin | #startmeeting ha-guide | 20:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 16 20:07:30 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattgriffin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ha-guide)" | 20:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha_guide' | 20:07 |
| mattgriffin | anyone else here for the HA Guide meeting? | 20:07 |
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| megm_ | Did you have any luck recruiting some technical help for developing some new content? | 20:09 |
| mattgriffin | ok... updated the agenda | 20:10 |
| mattgriffin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HA_Guide_Update#Next_Meeting | 20:10 |
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| mattgriffin | megm_, i emailed lana this morning | 20:11 |
| mattgriffin | haven't heard anything back yet but i think she's on the other side of the world so perhaps she needs to wake up | 20:11 |
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| megm_ | Yeah, it's the middle of the night where she is. | 20:12 |
| mattgriffin | megm_, i'm also following up with percona on reviewing/contributing to the MySQL-related content | 20:12 |
| megm_ | I'm going through the outline and plans to see what else I can do at this point. | 20:12 |
| mattgriffin | no reply yet | 20:12 |
| mattgriffin | ok | 20:12 |
| mattgriffin | i added a note for the Cinder section to the spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17EApMTVzCgddR62ZYJC4qAs9imdZWDcSy81UNEae8WY/edit#gid=0 | 20:13 |
| megm_ | It looks like the old ha guide had nothing about HA Compute nodes. I think I should go ahead and set up a file for that content, don't you? | 20:13 |
| mattgriffin | +1 | 20:13 |
| megm_ | That will make it easier for someone to come in and add content. | 20:13 |
| megm_ | +1 for cinder on spreadsheet | 20:14 |
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| mattgriffin | for content that is merged, i can note in the spreadsheet what is "Ready for review" | 20:16 |
| mattgriffin | and link that to the location in the beta guide | 20:16 |
| mattgriffin | and then send a note out to the Docs mailing list to try to get some reviews by SMEs | 20:17 |
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| mattgriffin | megm_, sound good? | 20:17 |
| megm_ | If a CR is merged, we don't need reviews -- we need someone to do some writing! | 20:17 |
| megm_ | But I can go through and add links to the spreadsheet if you think that would help | 20:18 |
| mattgriffin | yeah. cool. thanks | 20:18 |
| mattgriffin | just make it easy for people to jump in | 20:18 |
| megm_ | Good point -- link to the appropriate section in http://docs.openstack.org/draft/ha-guide/, right? | 20:19 |
| mattgriffin | yeah | 20:19 |
| mattgriffin | kinda like i did for the Cinder content | 20:19 |
| megm_ | I haven't heard from Radek for a while nor seen any CRs going by -- have you heard from him? | 20:20 |
| mattgriffin | row 12 | 20:20 |
| mattgriffin | i haven't | 20:20 |
| mattgriffin | or nick | 20:20 |
| mattgriffin | might need to hunt them down | 20:20 |
| mattgriffin | i can keep an eye out for them on irc and poke them if i see them | 20:20 |
| megm_ | I'm trying to open that link and getting bupkis | 20:21 |
| mattgriffin | hmm... works for me | 20:21 |
| megm_ | What about the doc liasons for various projects? It seems like they need to be involved in their pieces. | 20:22 |
| megm_ | If I click that link, I get a pop-up for the HYPERLINK but I can't go anywhere. I guess I can copy the link to a new tab but... | 20:23 |
| mattgriffin | weird. clicking the cell for me makes the link text appear and if i click on that it takes me to http://docs.openstack.org/draft/ha-guide/storage-ha.html | 20:24 |
| mattgriffin | ^ the right place | 20:24 |
| megm_ | I just added an ugly link to Pacemaker -- does that work for you? | 20:25 |
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| mattgriffin | yeah. that's cool | 20:25 |
| megm_ | Ah, this time I got it to work. Except you linked to the top of Storage rather than to the Cinder section ;-) | 20:25 |
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| mattgriffin | fixed :) | 20:27 |
| megm_ | That looks good | 20:27 |
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| mattgriffin | ok. so i'll make an action... | 20:28 |
| mattgriffin | #action mattgriffin and megm_ update the spreadsheet with links to the beta content to be reviewed and improved | 20:29 |
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| megm_ | Okay, I can go ahead and get that populated. | 20:29 |
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| mattgriffin | #action mattgriffin email the docs team when the spreadsheet is updated to ask for help in reviewing and support from the doc liasons | 20:30 |
| megm_ | I wonder if I should go ahead and try to get that piece about storage data merged as it is -- I can add TODO directives about the missing pieces. | 20:30 |
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| mattgriffin | +1 | 20:30 |
| megm_ | But Shamail now says he won't have a chance to work on this until August. It would be good to clean things up | 20:30 |
| megm_ | I may soon have a lot less time to devote to this project so it would be good to tie up loose ends. | 20:31 |
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| mattgriffin | gotcha | 20:31 |
| megm_ | Anything else for today? | 20:32 |
| mattgriffin | so let's get this spreadsheet in a good state and use that to recruit some additional support on updating/editing/writing | 20:32 |
| mattgriffin | nothing else for today :) | 20:32 |
| megm_ | Okay then -- have a great week! | 20:32 |
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| mattgriffin | you too. thanks! | 20:32 |
| mattgriffin | #endmeeting | 20:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 16 20:33:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha_guide/2015/ha_guide.2015-07-16-20.07.html | 20:33 |
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