| elmiko | #startmeeting api wg | 00:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 6 00:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api wg)" | 00:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 00:00 |
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| elmiko | hi | 00:00 |
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| elmiko | anyone around....? | 00:02 |
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| ryansb | \o | 00:02 |
| elmiko | hey ryansb | 00:02 |
| elmiko | just you and me so far | 00:03 |
| ryansb | I see | 00:03 |
| elmiko | although, since you're here | 00:03 |
| ryansb | was going to get an opinion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186526/, since we have -1s on it should I update the patch? | 00:03 |
| elmiko | this one #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186526/ | 00:03 |
| elmiko | haha | 00:03 |
| ryansb | lolol | 00:03 |
| elmiko | yea, i think so. there was some good feedback from the cross project meeting | 00:04 |
| ryansb | so anyways, is there an "unfreeze" process, or should I just go for it | 00:04 |
| elmiko | yea, i'd say update away | 00:04 |
| elmiko | then we will run it up the flag pole again | 00:04 |
| ryansb | kk | 00:04 |
| elmiko | some of the suggestions/questions were about maybe creating an example based on keystone, any advice about registering the headers, and also advice on migrating currently used headers | 00:05 |
| elmiko | i think folks were really hung up on the idea that we are telling folks not to use X- | 00:05 |
| elmiko | which i don't think we are, per se | 00:05 |
| elmiko | but like, X-Auth-Token was a big case in point | 00:05 |
| ryansb | due to the collisions? | 00:06 |
| elmiko | well, just the thought about should projects now attempt to migrate away from their X-My-Header stuff | 00:06 |
| ryansb | yeah, we're saying "it lacks the prior semantic meaning" | 00:06 |
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| ryansb | not "never use it" | 00:07 |
| elmiko | yea, exactly | 00:07 |
| elmiko | i think that point may have been too subtle | 00:07 |
| ryansb | so yeah, I'll spin a new patch that's a bit clearer on that front | 00:07 |
| elmiko | also, guidance on what to do if your project already uses something like X-foo-bar | 00:07 |
| elmiko | like, should you consider moving to OpenStack-foo-bar | 00:08 |
| elmiko | and if so, how is that accomplished | 00:08 |
| elmiko | i'm not sure we need all that in this version of the guidance, but it's food for thought for future versions | 00:08 |
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| elmiko | hmm, looking at our merge process. we are a little light on details about fixing up something in freeze | 00:11 |
| elmiko | but, i think just fix it up and we'll announce it at cross project once it's ready again | 00:12 |
| elmiko | and if no -1's then cool | 00:12 |
| ryansb | yeahh, so moving is not something that I'd look forward to, just for backward compat | 00:13 |
| ryansb | yeah, also next mtg we can see if folks want to flesh that out | 00:13 |
| elmiko | ok, it might be worth mentioning something about advising against moving unless there is an api version bump or something? | 00:13 |
| ryansb | yeah | 00:14 |
| elmiko | ok, i'll leave this on the agenda for next time too | 00:14 |
| elmiko | well, i'll change it to reflect the new discussion | 00:14 |
| ryansb | works for me | 00:14 |
| elmiko | cool | 00:14 |
| elmiko | anything else we should discuss? | 00:15 |
| ryansb | not that comes to mind | 00:15 |
| elmiko | did you have a nice vacation? ;) | 00:15 |
| ryansb | #reviewMoreGuidelines | 00:15 |
| elmiko | yea, agreed about that | 00:15 |
| elmiko | i'm not sure how we can increase the review throughput, maybe i can ping the liaisons again | 00:16 |
| elmiko | also, need to talk with etoews once he is back | 00:16 |
| ryansb | yeah, I'd go with that | 00:17 |
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| elmiko | ok, well, thanks for showing up =) | 00:17 |
| ryansb | :) | 00:18 |
| elmiko | see ya around the campus, as it were | 00:18 |
| ryansb | heh, IRC campus | 00:18 |
| elmiko | #endmeeting | 00:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 6 00:18:25 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:18 |
| elmiko | hehe | 00:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-08-06-00.00.html | 00:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-08-06-00.00.txt | 00:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-08-06-00.00.log.html | 00:18 |
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| regXboi | moo | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 15:00 |
| pc_m | hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron-l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 6 15:00:54 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| vikram_ | hi | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron-l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| pavel_bondar | hi | 15:01 |
| numan | hi | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron-l3)" | 15:01 | |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 15:01 |
| john-davidge | hi | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | We’re in the final month of feature development. | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Liberty-3 will be at the end of this month. Where has the time gone? | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 15:02 |
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| regXboi | only that we are trying to add multimode-dvr to the check queue as nonvoting | 15:02 |
| regXboi | and once it is added, I'll be watching it to see if we can make it voting | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Ah, yes. Thanks. Do you have a link to ther review? I think I saw a +2 pass by. | 15:03 |
| regXboi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209165/ | 15:03 |
| regXboi | and it has been W+1 | 15:03 |
| regXboi | so ... here we go | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Excelent. This should bring in some good data. | 15:04 |
| * regXboi crosses fingers :) | 15:04 | |
| carl_baldwin | Other announcements? | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Bugs | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron-l3)" | 15:05 | |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ping | 15:05 |
| * carl_baldwin thanks mlavalle for his efforts in keeping up on the meeting agenda and the bugs. | 15:05 | |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: so i followed up with the owner of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1388698 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1388698 in neutron "dhcp_agents_per_network does not work appropriately." [High,In progress] - Assigned to watanabe.isao (watanabe.isao) | 15:05 |
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| mlavalle | we didn't have any progreess report on that for a few konths | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | it turns out we have a fix proposed for that and it seems it will merge soon | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | also this coming week i intend to invest sometime researching https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1404743 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1404743 in neutron "sporadic test failures due to VMs not getting a DHCP lease" [High,Confirmed] | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks, I actually looked at that review recently. Was waiting for yamamoto to revisit it. | 15:07 |
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| mlavalle | we need to dig deeper into that. i will ask some help....... | 15:07 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, if yamamoto can revisit https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1388698 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1388698 in neutron "dhcp_agents_per_network does not work appropriately." [High,In progress] - Assigned to watanabe.isao (watanabe.isao) | 15:08 |
| yamamoto | i will. | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | that will help us to almost drive our bugs to 0 | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, mlavalle ! | 15:08 |
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| mlavalle | other than those 2 bugs, the rest are medium priority or lower | 15:08 |
| regXboi | so... there is one new l3-dvr-backlog that got made high last week | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | any other bugs folks wnat to bring up? | 15:09 |
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| regXboi | (me goes to look for the number | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Thanks for the reminder. I think this team needs to keep a better eye on that bug tag. | 15:10 |
| regXboi | carl_badlwin: I'm sort of doing that | 15:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | At one point, l3-dvr-backlog was a subset of l3-dhcp-ipam but that is no longer true. | 15:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | (or is it l3-ipam-dhcp?) | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | Anyway, I appreciate regXboi ’s help with keeping an eye on that. | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin, regXboi: iwans't watching the dvr one.... i'll start doing it from now on | 15:11 |
| regXboi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209165/ | 15:11 |
| regXboi | sorry, that's the patch | 15:11 |
| regXboi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1405910 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1405910 in neutron "distributed router can not add routes" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ryan Moats (rmoats) | 15:11 |
| regXboi | there we go - the patch had been abandoned - I've picked it up and am trying to shepherd it through | 15:11 |
| haleyb | and a silent failure, ouch, i will keep an eye as well | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Many thanks. We need a little reviewer attention on it. | 15:12 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: ack - I need to add test cases to it | 15:13 |
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| regXboi | I'm still trying to get the rebase happy | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144205/ | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | ^ Reviewers | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other bugs? | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | regXboi: thanks! | 15:13 |
| regXboi | let's get the other ones on the table | 15:13 |
| regXboi | #1365473 | 15:14 |
| regXboi | 1369721 | 15:14 |
| regXboi | 1470889 | 15:14 |
| regXboi | and now to make links | 15:14 |
| regXboi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1365473 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1365473 in neutron "Unable to create a router that's both HA and distributed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Adolfo Duarte (adolfo-duarte) | 15:14 |
| regXboi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1369721 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1369721 in neutron "manually moving dvr-snat router fails" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:15 |
| regXboi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1470889 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1470889 in neutron "DVR: should not remove routers form down l3 agents on compute nodes" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:15 |
| regXboi | iirc, those all have current patches... | 15:15 |
| regXboi | that's all from me | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Thanks. | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | Here’s a link to the dvr backlog that we should add to our wiki page: | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=l3-dvr-backlog | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | Yikes, looks like some triage is in order. | 15:16 |
| regXboi | :( | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: adding the tag now.... | 15:16 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I'll try and spend some time checking to see what has patches and what doesn't and ... | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Many many thanks. | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | Moving on... | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Routed network segments | 15:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | This topic sure seems to be heating up! I love it but it is now clear that we’ve got some heavy lifting to do. | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg58876.html | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ve taken an action item to write a new proposal encorporating the feedback from this thread. | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | I guess there isn’t much to discuss here without a more fleshed out proposal. | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic BGP dynamic routing | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BGP dynamic routing (Meeting topic: neutron-l3)" | 15:21 | |
| carl_baldwin | vikram_: tidwellr: ping | 15:22 |
| tidwellr | hi | 15:22 |
| vikram_ | hi | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | Actually, one more thing on routed networks. | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | #undo | 15:23 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x8294050> | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Do you want to mention the operator’s meetup? | 15:23 |
| regXboi | sure | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | The details are buried in that thread that I linked. I think it was going to be on Aug 18th. | 15:24 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: that sounds correct - let me find the right link | 15:24 |
| regXboi | I'll add it later, so we can move along | 15:24 |
| tidwellr | I'm will be there, that's correct | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | I will be at linuxcon with mestery and we plan to find a corner to sit it and join the discussion. | 15:24 |
| mestery | ++ | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | My only concern is that it sounds like kevinbenton may not be able to join at the chosen time from China. | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton ’s feedback has been valuable | 15:25 |
| regXboi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/071341.html | 15:25 |
| regXboi | oops | 15:25 |
| regXboi | that's the email with the proposed time on 8/18 | 15:26 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: that is unfortunate, but I think we'll have to muddle through | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | Okay, let’s move on. | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic BGP dynamic routing | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BGP dynamic routing (Meeting topic: neutron-l3)" | 15:26 | |
| carl_baldwin | vikram_: tidwellr : take two | 15:26 |
| tidwellr | I've been going round and round with where to insert callback notifications, anyway we've settled just inserting them where we need them for now and dealing with notifications more broadly later | 15:27 |
| vikram_ | I am working on the unit tests | 15:27 |
| tidwellr | I think I've cleared the way for us to wrap this up now | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: vikram_: Where do you need reviews? | 15:28 |
| tidwellr | these reviews have gone a little quiet recently, mostly because I've been tied up and working through things in a sandbox | 15:28 |
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| tidwellr | I'm going to start re-building the review dependencies today or tomorrow, but start here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201621/ | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: When they pick up, be sure to ping generously. | 15:30 |
| vikram_ | My patches has lot of failures.. Will correct them soon .. Probably need a weeks time to get it up for review | 15:30 |
| tidwellr | we're so close, but we do need to things up for review | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: vikram_: thanks. | 15:31 |
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| baoli | tidwellr: a quick question on BGP. What network are the BGP speakers and the BGP peers running on? | 15:31 |
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| tidwellr | they can run anywhere | 15:31 |
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| tidwellr | you can deploy the agent where you need it, as long as it can connect to rabbitmq and communicate with the server | 15:31 |
| baoli | tidwellr, but the peer's address must be reachable freom where the dr agent running? | 15:32 |
| tidwellr | yes | 15:32 |
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| baoli | tidwellr, ok, sounds like the mgmt net, then | 15:32 |
| tidwellr | well, not necessarily | 15:32 |
| tidwellr | depends on your environment | 15:32 |
| tidwellr | mgmt net means different things to different people | 15:33 |
| tidwellr | but it's typically a mgmt net of sorts | 15:33 |
| baoli | tidwellr, got it, thanks | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic IPAM | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "IPAM (Meeting topic: neutron-l3)" | 15:34 | |
| carl_baldwin | Pluggable IPAM is all merged! | 15:34 |
| johnbelamaric | Yes, indeed. :) | 15:34 |
| pavel_bondar | great! | 15:34 |
| pavel_bondar | :) | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: pavel_bondar: Anything for today? | 15:34 |
| regXboi | the eagle has landed!!!! | 15:34 |
| johnbelamaric | We are working on our driver and have created networking-infoblox repo - but i am having trouble getting attention from anyone in infra to add me to the core/release groups for it | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | From my perspective, we’ve got the switch over to pluggable by default in Mitaka. Any other future directions? | 15:35 |
| johnbelamaric | any suggestions? | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Hmmm. I’m not sure how to get that kind of attention. mestery ? | 15:35 |
| johnbelamaric | No, not for this - i think the migration for Mitaka and then it's a wrap. | 15:35 |
| mestery | johnbelamaric: Let me help with this, thanks for tagging me here carl_baldwin | 15:35 |
| mestery | johnbelamaric: We'll get it sorted ASAP | 15:36 |
| johnbelamaric | mestery: thank you | 15:36 |
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| mestery | johnbelamaric: Do you happen to have a link to the gerrit group for me? | 15:36 |
| mestery | That would be awesome if so :) | 15:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | On another note, I was just wondering yesterday about DHCP relays. But, we can talk about that another time. johnbelamaric: Any plans around this? | 15:36 |
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| johnbelamaric | mestery: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1009,members | 15:36 |
| johnbelamaric | mestery: and #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1010,members | 15:37 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: well, we still have the issue that the ISC patch we need is not upstream yet - i can check into that | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: It is all coming back to me. I had forgotton about that ISC patch. | 15:38 |
| johnbelamaric | Our current implementation is less than ideal, though, since it runs a relay per namespace | 15:38 |
| johnbelamaric | ideally we would have a relay that pokes into all the namespaces to avoid so many processes | 15:38 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Maybe we could find some time in Tokyo to chat about it. | 15:39 |
| johnbelamaric | we also still run dnsmasq for dns proxy in our case, so it's adding to the load not offloading - though you avoid the disk I/O associated with dnsmasq config files | 15:39 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: Ok, let's try - i am about 75% certain I will make Tokyo | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Thanks. Once again, thanks for your persistence and patience with pluggable IPAM | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar too | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic DNS | 15:40 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: after your review to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200952/ | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Hi | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | I am feeling that it is close to merger | 15:41 |
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| mlavalle | i will finish ading ut's today and address your concerns | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I think so. | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | after that i think it is very close | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | I won’t be able to review again until next week but hopefully other reviewers can add it to their list. | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | so i think statrting tomorrow my focus will shift mainly to the external side of this project | 15:42 |
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| mlavalle | i hope to be able o push the first patchset middle of next week | 15:42 |
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| mlavalle | so all in all making good progress | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: That is great. I plan to run the patch in devstack next week. This was my first blueprint, I’m excited to see it working. | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | thansks to regXboi, who keeps revieweing each one of my revisions :-) | 15:43 |
| regXboi | mlavalle: yw | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | Request reviewers to watch for an update to this patch in the next day. | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | yeah, i'll push tonight again | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi is all over the place! | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Anything else? | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | that's all for today | 15:44 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I think I've been accused of being an AI because of that | 15:44 |
| * carl_baldwin will look in to adding captchas to regXboi ’s reviews. | 15:45 | |
| john-davidge | regXboi: That’s exactly what an AI would say… | 15:45 |
| regXboi | rotfl | 15:45 |
| regXboi | folks - ask mestery - he know's I'm real | 15:45 |
| regXboi | he's watched me throw reading glasses across a room in a fit of pique | 15:45 |
| mestery | lol | 15:45 |
| mestery | I can confirm regXboi is indeed an actual person | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | mestery might be an AI too. | 15:46 |
| regXboi | rotflmao now | 15:46 |
| mestery | rofl | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | i've suspected that of mestery for a long time | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Address Scopes | 15:46 |
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| mestery | rofl | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | rofl too | 15:46 |
| * john-davidge suggests adding Turing Test to OpenStack contributors agreement | 15:47 | |
| carl_baldwin | So, address scopes. The l3 agent code is mostly finished in a local sandbox. That was my story three weeks ago, I know. | 15:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | But, I’m going to wrap this up before moving on to routing networks redesign next week. | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | vikram_ ’s and numan ’s patches have been making good progress. | 15:48 |
| numan | Caleb--, there is one review - to associate subnetpool to addresscope : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197552/ | 15:48 |
| numan | carl_baldwin, ^ | 15:48 |
| * regXboi suggests adding Turing Test to OpenStack contributions workflow | 15:48 | |
| numan | just need another core reviewer to review :) | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: ^ | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle is on vacation by the way. Otherwise, I would’ve welcomed him as our newest core earlier in the meeting. | 15:49 |
| haleyb | carl_baldwin: will look | 15:49 |
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| carl_baldwin | thanks | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic IPv6 | 15:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: Thank you for your tireless work on prefix delegation. | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | The first patch merged. | 15:51 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Thank you for your tireless reviewing on prefix delegation | 15:51 |
| john-davidge | HenryG: Too | 15:51 |
| john-davidge | I actually have a quick fix patch up for an error I didn’t catch until testing the second patch this morning #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209978/ | 15:52 |
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| john-davidge | It’s very small, so hopefully it can merge quickly | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | The next one is a big one but it is mostly new code with what looks like light integration with the existing code. So, I’m not sure it would make sense to break it up. | 15:52 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Thanks for your review on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185977/ already. I’m working through it now, will possibly have a new patch up sometime tomorrow | 15:53 |
| * carl_baldwin is a bit embarassed by the that bug. I thought I checked for that specifically in my last review. | 15:53 | |
| * HenryG is equally embarassed | 15:54 | |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: I won’t be able to review until late next week. Encourage other reviewers to add it. | 15:54 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Me too! I suspect a bit of “Let’s get this in already” fever caught us there | 15:54 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: will do | 15:54 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: I agree that it doesn’t make sense to split the second patch. I did try it at one point and it was a lot of overhead | 15:55 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: agreed | 15:55 |
| HenryG | ack | 15:55 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: Do you think a UT could be added for the bug? | 15:56 |
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| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Could do. iirc there are no existing tests for update_subnet so I didn’t initally see the value in creating one just for PD | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | ouch! | 15:57 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: In this case it’s a misnamed function call rather than a logical error, so perhaps a UT is a bit much? | 15:57 |
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| regXboi | um | 15:58 |
| carl_baldwin | HenryG: thoughts? | 15:58 |
| carl_baldwin | I think it is worth a shot. UTs in python are useful for catching such things. | 15:58 |
| * regXboi admits to being somewhat disturbed that there are no tests for update_subnet | 15:58 | |
| HenryG | It might be worth throwing together a minimal test for update_subnet | 15:58 |
| carl_baldwin | 1+1 | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | +1 | 15:59 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: As in, perhaps a test for that one function is a bit much. But testing of the workflow in #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185977/ should absolutely catch it. | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | == 2 lol | 15:59 |
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| regXboi | wow, where has the time gone? | 16:00 |
| HenryG | Also wondering: do we functional testing for dibbler? I am not sure how to emulate a PD server. | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | We need to end the meeting now. | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | We’ll take the discussion to the review. | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, all! Great work! | 16:00 |
| john-davidge | okey dokey | 16:00 |
| regXboi | oom | 16:00 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: #endmeeting? | 16:01 |
| numan | bye | 16:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 6 16:02:18 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-08-06-15.00.html | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-08-06-15.00.txt | 16:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-08-06-15.00.log.html | 16:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | Sorry. Fat fingered the enter key | 16:02 |
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| docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 6 17:00:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'app_catalog' | 17:00 |
| docaedo | #topic rollcall | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:00 | |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 17:00 |
| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:00 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: you should o/ too =) | 17:01 |
| docaedo | o/ | 17:01 |
| docaedo | haha, was about to do that | 17:01 |
| docaedo | #topic Status updates | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status updates (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:01 | |
| docaedo | New repo for App Catalog UI work landed | 17:01 |
| docaedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207253/ | 17:01 |
| docaedo | I added a handful of new blueprints based on things we've been discussing/planning. | 17:01 |
| docaedo | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/app-catalog | 17:01 |
| docaedo | "Multiple asset types" work appears to be making really good progress, kfox1111 do you want to give a quick update? | 17:02 |
| kfox1111 | Sure. | 17:02 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I've promised to work on murano part of the ui-thingy, but failed to keep my promise =( | 17:02 |
| kfox1111 | glance_images and heat_templates are sharing a common schema now. | 17:02 |
| kzaitsev_mb | strated to work on that today, but was constantly distracted by different stuff | 17:02 |
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| docaedo | kfox1111: thanks! | 17:03 |
| kzaitsev_mb | hope to sort it out though | 17:03 |
| kfox1111 | I've been looking at the murano one too. Just need to add the deps stuff I think to the common schema and then can merge that schema too. | 17:03 |
| kfox1111 | but that is partially related to | 17:03 |
| kfox1111 | #https://blueprints.launchpad.net/app-catalog/+spec/murano-apps-dependencies | 17:03 |
| kfox1111 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/app-catalog/+spec/murano-apps-dependencies | 17:03 |
| kfox1111 | since it would be common, we should fix it at the same time so deps work with heat templates too. | 17:04 |
| docaedo | regarding murano-apps-dependencies, I added a note to the whiteboard suggesting app catalog should not get into the business of dependency management... | 17:04 |
| kfox1111 | I added a note saying it was already in the buisness. | 17:04 |
| docaedo | unless we can agree it would be VERY minimal - otherwise, starts to sound like we want to become a package manager | 17:04 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. the web ui already has the ability to install components. | 17:05 |
| kfox1111 | I think for now, all it would do is show you each with a link by each to install it. | 17:05 |
| kfox1111 | something simple, but usable. | 17:05 |
| docaedo | ah, we moved on BTW to: | 17:05 |
| docaedo | #topic App Catalog Horizon Plugin Update (kfox1111) | 17:05 |
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| docaedo | so - I agree there is value there (dep management), just want to make sure we don't start getting too complicated with multiple recursions of checking and fetching deps | 17:06 |
| kfox1111 | ah. yeah. agreed. | 17:07 |
| kfox1111 | no complicated dep resolver. | 17:07 |
| docaedo | +1 | 17:07 |
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| docaedo | Any other updates, or do we move on to open discussion? | 17:08 |
| docaedo | actually before we move on, and on this topic (horizon plugin) | 17:08 |
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| docaedo | Just wanted to say the more I think about it, the more excited I get about the potential for this to bring in more contributors from the openstack dev side | 17:09 |
| kfox1111 | #link https://youtu.be/2UQ6xa6uDQY | 17:09 |
| kfox1111 | newest plugin demo. | 17:09 |
| docaedo | as we talked about on the main IRC channel, it really could become THE way to bring things into your OpenStack environment regardless of which service you're talking about | 17:10 |
| docaedo | thanks for sharing the demo! | 17:10 |
| kfox1111 | its already a bit out of date as of this morning. I got magic search working. :) | 17:10 |
| docaedo | awesome! | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | damn you're fast =) | 17:10 |
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| kfox1111 | I also got the ability to point it at a local server running apps-catalog content. | 17:10 |
| kfox1111 | One of the next thigns I want to play with is a more | 17:11 |
| kfox1111 | #link https://play.google.com/store | 17:11 |
| kfox1111 | style display for the apps view. | 17:11 |
| kfox1111 | icon, description, can go in and look at details, install/launch. | 17:11 |
| docaedo | I like that idea, also touches on something I was going to bring up later - I want to include a way for a contributing company to include their logo with the asset | 17:12 |
| docaedo | I know for certain the idea of visibility is holding back a few people who have existing assets that would be good in the catalog | 17:12 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. I was starting to work on that this morning, and then realized, I needed a place to try adding icons, where the horizon ui coudl get it, | 17:12 |
| kfox1111 | but before it was committed to apps.openstack.org. | 17:12 |
| docaedo | (ie they worked hard on the assets and still want SOME branding indicating they contributed them) | 17:12 |
| kfox1111 | hmm... | 17:13 |
| kfox1111 | so we have provided_by, and supported_by. | 17:13 |
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| kfox1111 | provided_by maybe shoudl have an icon too? | 17:14 |
| docaedo | yep - just adding the ability to include an image there too (like provided_by HP, and a small HP logo there too) | 17:14 |
| kfox1111 | company_logo? | 17:14 |
| docaedo | exactly what I was typing :) | 17:14 |
| kfox1111 | cool. makes sense to me. | 17:14 |
| docaedo | nice, I'll add a blueprint for that - just so we don't lose track | 17:15 |
| kfox1111 | k. thx. | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sounds nice to me. That would actually make companies use app-catalog as an advert platform | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | although it does bring up some concerns, cause the app-catalog would use assets, that might be copirighted. But I guess that's on users concious | 17:16 |
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| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: that should be covered by the license details | 17:16 |
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| kfox1111 | I think firefox has had recent conversations on this topic. | 17:17 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: let's maybe add a bp for license, too? I believe, that we've all signed a license when we started contributing ot OS, but what happens, when we contribute to app-catalog? | 17:17 |
| kfox1111 | they are shipping logo's as part of the search widget. they are not open source because they are logo's... | 17:18 |
| kfox1111 | so debian kind of had issue with it. | 17:18 |
| docaedo | you have to agree to the openstack contributor license to contribute to the app catalog, so that's covered - but I see what you're saying w/r/t logos | 17:18 |
| kfox1111 | I'd say, for those logo's, we just link to them in the metadata and pulll right from the url. | 17:18 |
| docaedo | is it a concern if you link | 17:18 |
| docaedo | haha, yeah, again typing same thing same time | 17:18 |
| kfox1111 | if we just link, thats a lot less dangerous. | 17:19 |
| kfox1111 | :) | 17:19 |
| docaedo | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/app-catalog/+spec/contributed-by-logo | 17:19 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | although that leaves place for resources getting deleted from remote stuff, but that's something we have covered in the stale-resources bp, I guess | 17:20 |
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| kfox1111 | yeah. | 17:20 |
| kzaitsev_mb | but generally sounds nice ) | 17:20 |
| docaedo | once again with ninja stealth we changed topics :) | 17:21 |
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| docaedo | #topic Open discussion | 17:21 |
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| kfox1111 | longer term, we might be able to come up with a thing that says, if you license it to us in such a way it can be associated with the catalog and we distribute it, it can go on apps.openstack.org. but thats way out. | 17:21 |
| docaedo | agreed, definitely have a few other things to solve first :) | 17:22 |
| docaedo | I had an idea, wanted to get your thoughts. | 17:22 |
| docaedo | Should we consider storing Heat templates in the app-catalog repo? I think it would be a good way to encourage people to contribute templates, and we could encourage people in the Heat community to help review them as well. | 17:22 |
| docaedo | Right now there's no obvious place to go find or put heat templates. We obviously want the app catalog to be the place to find heat templates, and the mechanism right now assumes the contributor has their own repository for holding the templates (so contributions are just pointers to templates hosted elsewhere). | 17:22 |
| docaedo | Any reason not to encourage people to start keeping them in app catalog? Thoughts? | 17:22 |
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| docaedo | *crickets* | 17:24 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | that depends... | 17:24 |
| kfox1111 | sorry... | 17:25 |
| kfox1111 | Yes, and no? | 17:25 |
| kzaitsev_mb | on the one hand I can imagine people constantly improving their template, like on github. in that case we would have access to the latest version | 17:25 |
| kzaitsev_mb | unless linked directly to some pinned version | 17:25 |
| kfox1111 | Yes, I totally want a place where I can contribute templates to the greater community that isn't "examples" like heat-templates.git repo. | 17:25 |
| kfox1111 | but, probably doesn't belong in the app-catalog repo? | 17:26 |
| kfox1111 | maybe a app-catalog-heat-templates repo or something? | 17:26 |
| kzaitsev_mb | kfox1111: and then app-catalog-solum, app-catalog-glance, app-catalog-docker-images? =) | 17:26 |
| docaedo | yeah, I think that makes more sense than just dumping it into the main repo | 17:27 |
| docaedo | then on the other hand, feels like we would be trying to solve a different problem (get people to create/maintain heat templates) | 17:28 |
| kfox1111 | solum/glance are tarball/image kinds of things. not very git friendly. | 17:28 |
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| kfox1111 | yeah. it could belong to the heat project too. I've been trying for over a year to get them to do it though, with no affect. | 17:29 |
| kfox1111 | so it may be easier to do it here. | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | oh. docaedo you wanted to put heat templates in the git repo? | 17:29 |
| docaedo | yes, heat is the one that's pretty friendly for git, others, no so much | 17:29 |
| kfox1111 | if it ends up being wildy successful and heat wants to take ownership at that point, great. :) | 17:29 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: yes, was thinking of exactly that | 17:29 |
| docaedo | kfox1111: and yeah, that's kind of what I was leaning towards, because nobody else seems to want to solve that problem | 17:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | no, I actually do not think it's a good idea, since other types are not friendly to git, and it would, like separate asset types into ones that fit into repo and ones that do not. | 17:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | also. in future roles of moderators/developers might be separated (I hope so) | 17:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and this would mean, that heat-template providers would have to be moderated by catalog developers, not catalog moderators | 17:31 |
| docaedo | I think you guys have successfully talked me out of the idea | 17:31 |
| kfox1111 | so you could do a app-catalog-text-resource or something, | 17:31 |
| kfox1111 | well, having them moderated by catalog folks is still better then not having them moderated at all. | 17:32 |
| docaedo | I would say we table the idea for now but keep it kicking around at least, at some point we might hit a variation of the idea that makes more sense | 17:32 |
| docaedo | because one thing I realize - if I'm creating a heat template | 17:32 |
| docaedo | I want to "own" it, I don't want to have to wait for a core reviewer here to bless my updates/changes | 17:33 |
| kfox1111 | I disagree for one reason. | 17:33 |
| kfox1111 | I can self own it on github today. that doesn't buy me something I want. | 17:33 |
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| kfox1111 | openstack's great CI stuff. | 17:33 |
| kfox1111 | I want to contribute a template, | 17:33 |
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| kfox1111 | and then have CI continue to check on it. | 17:33 |
| kfox1111 | cause stuff breaks, and I want to know when, so I can go fix it. | 17:34 |
| kfox1111 | github doesn't provide that. | 17:34 |
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| kfox1111 | if its in an openstack managed repo, that's possible. | 17:34 |
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| docaedo | there's some truth and value there, but you could still keep it on your own github account, and we tie in some app-catalog CI (that you've talked about) to test contributed Heat elements | 17:34 |
| kfox1111 | I guess as econd benifit is the reviewers. | 17:34 |
| docaedo | s/elements/assets/ | 17:34 |
| kfox1111 | they can say "oh, thats good, but if you do it this way, its even better" | 17:35 |
| kfox1111 | I've already given j^2 help in that reguard with his heat template. | 17:35 |
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| docaedo | yep, and it's been great feeback (I've been watching) | 17:35 |
| docaedo | in reality though, folks should be getting that from #openstack-heat | 17:35 |
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| kfox1111 | if we have an app-catalog-heat repo, we ccan probably encurage heat developers to watch it. | 17:36 |
| j^2 | Yep | 17:36 |
| docaedo | hey, j^2, nice to see you! | 17:36 |
| kfox1111 | but they currently have single no place to go and look | 17:36 |
| kfox1111 | with a git repo/gerrit, you can preemptively find things. | 17:36 |
| j^2 | Hi! I've been heads down on something | 17:36 |
| docaedo | j^2: no prob | 17:36 |
| kfox1111 | with #irc+github, you have to wait for a developer to ask. | 17:36 |
| docaedo | so on this Heat repo topic, is it worth surfacing on the ML with [heat] in the subject, asking if they think there's value in creating a repo specifically for contributors | 17:37 |
| kfox1111 | like, I had no idea j^2 had a heat template until he tried to add an app catalog entry. | 17:37 |
| kfox1111 | yeah, I think thats a good action item. | 17:37 |
| docaedo | and by extension, that repo becomes a place to test heat stuff and get feedback from heat community | 17:38 |
| docaedo | cool! | 17:38 |
| kfox1111 | if we can get some heat developers to watch the repo, then it will cause much better quaility heat templates to be produced. | 17:38 |
| kfox1111 | alternitively, if enough develoeprs start contributing to it, there will aready be a set of developers interested in watching it. | 17:38 |
| docaedo | #action docaedo to writ to ML regarding Heat contributors repo for app-catalog | 17:38 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | that seems like a big if to me (although I do not know a lot about heat community responsiveness) | 17:39 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | so it might actually work out | 17:39 |
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| kfox1111 | it may, or it may not. can't be much worse then not trying? | 17:41 |
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| docaedo | yep - I'm goign to write the note before I let myself walk away from the computer this morning :) | 17:42 |
| docaedo | Anything else for open discussion? I don't have anything else on my own list | 17:42 |
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| docaedo | ok - unless anyone else speaks up in the next minute or so, we can end early and move on to whatever else we're all up to... | 17:44 |
| kfox1111 | I think thats probably about it. | 17:45 |
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| docaedo | Thanks for joining today :) Talk to you all on #openstack-app-catalog! | 17:45 |
| docaedo | #endmeeting | 17:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 6 17:45:47 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2015/app_catalog.2015-08-06-17.00.html | 17:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2015/app_catalog.2015-08-06-17.00.txt | 17:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2015/app_catalog.2015-08-06-17.00.log.html | 17:45 |
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| rkukura | hi GBP’ers! | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ivar-lazzaro ransari magesh Yi yapeng: hi | 18:00 |
| ransari | hi | 18:00 |
| Yi | hi | 18:00 |
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| magesh | hi | 18:00 |
| ivar-lazzaro | hi | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you beat me today :-P | 18:00 |
| rkukura | that’s rare | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 6 18:01:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Aug_6th.2C_2015 | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for the past few weeks we have been deliberating as to what is a good time to release Kilo | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | part of the reason in the delay has been that we have users testing this, and providing feedback | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and we want to make sure that those issues get addressed in the release | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but given all that, we have most of the things we need | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for what remains, we can get those committed in the next few days, and/or backport after the release is cut | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so with that, I would like to propose that we do the release on Aug 14th | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i already check with most of you, but if you do have concerns with this timeline please do let me know | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ideally, i will try to do a K-4 release sometime before that | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | thoughts/questions/concerns? | 18:04 |
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| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Is there a list of iterms to get in? | 18:05 |
| ransari | SumitNaiksatam - Once Kilo is released, any backport needs to be to both Kilo and Juno | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: yes, depending on the severity of the issue | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we will be maintaining Juno and Kilo, while we develop on Liberty | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: good question | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets discuss that | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:06 |
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| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Is my understanding correct that our master branch will continue to require kilo neutron for the short term at least? | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | I am hoping to spend most of the time today on triangulating the list of items to fix before kilo release (as rkukura mentions) | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: correct | 18:07 |
| ransari | @SumitNaiksatam- couple of bugs that need to get in are: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197973/, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198639/, https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1479706, https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy-ui/+bug/1482325, | 18:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479706 in Group Based Policy "GBP Service chaining errors are are not vsible to the user because of not having status attribute" [Undecided,New] | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i am guessing that we will end following a similar process/timeline as to what we did in Kilo (hopefullly we will sync up sooner though) | 18:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1482325 in Group Based Policy UI "Instances in ERROR state don't show in GBP Member list" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to ank (ank.b) | 18:08 |
| ransari | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy-ui/+bug/1463928 | 18:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1463928 in Group Based Policy UI "External connectivity UI is missing" [Critical,Confirmed] | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: okay | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thats a handful! | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i seem to have completely missed: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1479706 | 18:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479706 in Group Based Policy "GBP Service chaining errors are are not vsible to the user because of not having status attribute" [Undecided,New] | 18:09 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: What about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179327/? | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | oh sorry, i think we discussed this | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i mean we had discussed #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1479706 | 18:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479706 in Group Based Policy "GBP Service chaining errors are are not vsible to the user because of not having status attribute" [Undecided,New] | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: lets get to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179327/ in a minute | 18:11 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regarding bug/1479706 i dont think we reached a conclusion | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but we didnt have magesh that day, is magesh around today? | 18:11 |
| magesh | SumitNaiksatam: yes, I am here :- | 18:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: so my understanding is that we are going to spend some time in Liberty trying to design the asyn interface, while keeping both, sync and async, options available to the user | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: do you have a short term proposal in mind, that we can later evolve towards the above goal (in the context of the bug you have raised)? | 18:13 |
| magesh | SumitNaiksatam: Right, we do need a proper interface to handle the resource status | 18:14 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I actually meant https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1432816, which also has schema changes. | 18:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1432816 in Group Based Policy "inconsistent template ownership during chain creation" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ivar Lazzaro (mmaleckk) | 18:15 |
| magesh | SumitNaiksatam: Not having the status impacts the visibility of the errors for the user. I am yet to to work out the details for a short term solution though. | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: ransari: to confirm, your users needs a fix for this in Kilo, right? (and backported to Juno) | 18:15 |
| ransari | yes, | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay | 18:16 |
| ransari | it impacts the usability fro production deployments | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: okay | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: rkukura: can we set aside about 30 minutes Friday morning (US time) to meet in #openstack-gbp and work out a shorter term solution? | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | of course everyone else in the team, who can, should also join | 18:17 |
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| ransari | ok | 18:17 |
| magesh | SumitNaiksatam: I will not be available on Friday morning US time. I will be travelling | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: ah bummer | 18:18 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I think so. I don’t see a big problem defining a status attribute for our immediate needs, and adding more values later as things become more asynchronous, provided we don’t break clients. | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: are you available after this meeting? | 18:18 |
| magesh | SumitNaiksatam: okey, Lets discuss after this meeting | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i agree | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: great | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura and others hopefully you can stick around a bit longer as well | 18:18 |
| ransari | yes | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so i am just going in the order in which items were posted | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197973 | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | “Fix Servicechain Instance update and spec update" | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: does your objection still stand for this patch? | 18:20 |
| ivar-lazzaro | looking | 18:20 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | ok now I remember this patch | 18:21 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I think we had a discussion about finding a common way to handle internal object changes | 18:21 |
| ivar-lazzaro | Today we only do it for new PTs in PTGs, we basically added a hook to the NCP that the RMD can call | 18:22 |
| ivar-lazzaro | This doesn't scale very well, but I think we can use this method for now until we find a better way | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: yes i recall we had the discussion | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay | 18:23 |
| ivar-lazzaro | it's clearer than calling a "blind" SCI update | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: can you please respond to ivar-lazzaro’s comment and update accordingly? | 18:23 |
| ivar-lazzaro | and finding out later what is going on | 18:23 |
| ivar-lazzaro | (IMHO) | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | next one which ransari posted - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198639/ | 18:24 |
| magesh | SumitNaiksatam,ivar-lazzaro : okay, So the idea is to have another method with similar functionality as update SCI, is that correct ? | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: i agree with ivar-lazzaro that we should make it consistent with existing approach | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198639/ - Gracefully handle parameter updates that affects Service Chain | 18:25 |
| magesh | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:25 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | anyone have objections to the above patch/approach ^^^ | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: we dont need a schema update for this? | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | oh probably not | 18:26 |
| magesh | SumitNaiksatam: No, there is no db updates here | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: and the claim is that this is backward compatible? | 18:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | because we are going from more restrictive to less restrictive | 18:27 |
| magesh | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, there is an api update for making classifier ID in SCI an updatable field though | 18:27 |
| magesh | the rest are just internal workflow changes | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: so are we using the classifier ID today in the service chain heat driver? | 18:28 |
| magesh | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, In the heat driver we are using it to derive the firewall rule | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: ah okay, for the firewall rules | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: however i dont see in our patch that the heat driver is getting updated? | 18:30 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i am trying to understand what is being done with the update in your patch | 18:30 |
| magesh | SumitNaiksatam: The update scenario is already handled in the heat node driver, although that code is not exercised today | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: ah okay, i missed that | 18:30 |
| magesh | Right now, we delete the chain and recreate it for any updates | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alright, assuming ivar-lazzaro, rkukura you got a chance to look at this patch, do you foresee any issues with allowing this update? | 18:31 |
| magesh | This patch tries to avoid that as much as possible (may be a Policy Rule, PRS, PTG or Classifier updates) | 18:31 |
| ransari | right, its not just a classifier update | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: sounds reasonable to me | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and the driver can reject the update? | 18:32 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I haven’t looked closely enough yet to have an opinion | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:33 |
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| magesh | SumitNaiksatam: yes, a driver can reject the update in validate method itself | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: any objections? | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro is probably reviewing in real time ;-) | 18:34 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: multitasking a lot atm ;) | 18:35 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I'll review asap, no objections in the concept so far | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: no worries | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari regading - Launchpad bug 1463928 in Group Based Policy UI "External connectivity UI is missing" | 18:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1463928 in Group Based Policy UI "External connectivity UI is missing" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463928 | 18:35 |
| ivar-lazzaro | that's obviously better to be graceful when we can | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: right | 18:35 |
| ivar-lazzaro | can't be too rude with the poor chains | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: this is a big one | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: lol! | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: i dont know who is working on this | 18:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: we also need at least a short discussion on how we want to go about designing this UI before we implement | 18:36 |
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| ransari | SumitNaiksatam: sorry I stepped away | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: no worries | 18:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: i am a bit concerned that we dont have an owner for the above | 18:38 |
| ransari | This is an abosulte must for the production deployment | 18:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: i agree, but we are behind on this | 18:38 |
| ransari | Ankaiah can be specified as the owner | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: okay, good to know | 18:38 |
| ransari | But we need to discuss on how to proceed | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: right | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: okay lets follow up offline, i would like to know what the user feedback and expectations are on this | 18:39 |
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| ransari | ok | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: have we covered all your items? | 18:40 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you mentioned https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1432816 | 18:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1432816 in Group Based Policy "inconsistent template ownership during chain creation" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ivar Lazzaro (mmaleckk) | 18:40 |
| ransari | yes | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: ok good | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166424/ rkukura you seem to have the last comment | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but seems like a minor one | 18:41 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: That one is still WIP | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hate to bug ivar-lazzaro again | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: your nova driver depends on the above? | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | yeah the WIP is due to lack of validation so far | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay, seems like rkukura validated, no? | 18:42 |
| ransari | Did we cover: https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy-ui/+bug/1482325 | 18:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1482325 in Group Based Policy UI "Instances in ERROR state don't show in GBP Member list" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to ank (ank.b) | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | waiting for rkukura to validate the the VMs are created correctly and the SG rules works | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: not sure about SG rules being applied | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: we did not cover, but i will follow up separately, i think it should be pretty doable | 18:43 |
| rkukura | Only way I was able to get VMs to use the PT’s port is to use this patch and configure the UUID of the service tenant that owns the VM. Would like the option of specify tenant by name or UUID. | 18:43 |
| ransari | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:43 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: I think that tenant names could overlap | 18:43 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: that's why UUIDs are used | 18:43 |
| rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: Right, looking at the SG rules is at the top of my list | 18:43 |
| rkukura | UUIDs are OK, but difficult to configure, especially in devstack | 18:44 |
| rkukura | How can different tenants log in if they have the same name? | 18:44 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: good point | 18:45 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: got to investigate this | 18:45 |
| rkukura | I should be able to validate the SG rules tomorrow, if not tonight. | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: nice | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: perhaps you can relay your findings to ivar-lazzaro | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: perhaps okay to use tenant name? | 18:46 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I’ll update the review, and email ivar-lazzaro | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks? | 18:46 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: thx! | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: and error out if there is ambiguity/overlap? | 18:47 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: sounds good | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: sorry i meant - thanks”!” :-) | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: ok cool | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so what else did we miss in terms of bugs that are targets for kilo? | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will plug the couple of patches that i posted (in response to bugs) - | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209409 (Friendlier consumed/provided PRS input for PTG) | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208200 (Quota support for GBP resources) | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | both are still not completely done | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | there are at least a couple of CLI bugs in addition | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else we missed? | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ivar-lazzaro: magesh: ? | 18:50 |
| ransari | SumitNaiksatam: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209409 definitely improves usability! | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ransari: okay | 18:50 |
| ivar-lazzaro | nope | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | oh we missed ivar-lazzaro’s patch | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208059 | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i believe the -1 is mostly very small things? | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the above is “subnet allocation improvement" | 18:51 |
| rkukura | trivial, but didn’t want the bug closed by this patch | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:52 |
| ivar-lazzaro | ok | 18:52 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I'll change the commit message right away | 18:52 |
| ivar-lazzaro | and update the rest of the comments later | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro thanks for working on this - we cannot release without this fix | 18:52 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I have it as a dependency anyways, so I push new patchsets often | 18:52 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: assuming it really improves as much as it should ;) | 18:52 |
| rkukura | Might as well address the mispelled variable name too while you are at it. | 18:53 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i think it will, really appreciate you coming up with the interim solution until we leverage the other components | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: at least it should address most cases | 18:54 |
| ivar-lazzaro | hope to see some numbers soon! | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Testing | 18:54 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | a quick update on integration gate jon | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *job | 18:54 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we now have a rally job running for both branches | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have set the concurrency to 10 | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i do see a few failures at times | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we havent merged the test in-tree, but if anyone wants to contribute more tests, we can get them in the tree right away (and be able to run it as a part of the external gbp rally package) | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just reach out to me | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Packaging update | 18:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: anything? | 18:56 |
| rkukura | not this week | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:57 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | anything else we missed? | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | would request everyone to please be deligent with the reviews in the next few days | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it will help our ability to get a good release out | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks for fixing the client dependencies! | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alright thanks everyone! | 18:58 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I hope I got it right | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | magesh: rkukura ivar-lazzaro ransari, can you join #openstack-gbp ? | 18:59 |
| magesh | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i think it works | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye all! | 18:59 |
| rkukura | bye | 18:59 |
| magesh | bye | 18:59 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 6 18:59:38 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-08-06-18.01.html | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-08-06-18.01.txt | 18:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-08-06-18.01.log.html | 18:59 |
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| megm | Hello HA Guide people? | 20:00 |
| mattgriffin | #startmeeting ha-guide | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 6 20:01:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattgriffin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
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| mattgriffin | hi megm | 20:01 |
| megm | Hi, Matt! | 20:01 |
| mattgriffin | anyone else here for the ha-guide meeting? | 20:01 |
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| mattgriffin | megm, i don't have much to share today. i have been slacking and haven't emailed anyone like i said i would last week to do content reviews and file bugs | 20:03 |
| mattgriffin | sorrry | 20:04 |
| megm | It happens... I haven't been working on this much, either. I kind of feel like we're spinning until we get some technical people contributing. | 20:04 |
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| megm | So do we have anything to discuss? | 20:06 |
| mattgriffin | megm, i don't think so | 20:06 |
| mattgriffin | action mattgriffin do his todo's last week | 20:06 |
| megm | One question was whether we should try having an occasional call on Eastern hemisphere time. | 20:06 |
| megm | I don't know if that would get more participation or not. | 20:06 |
| mattgriffin | brb | 20:07 |
| megm | See what happens when you are able to reach out to some people about content. | 20:07 |
| mattgriffin | megm, sorry... phone call | 20:08 |
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| megm | np. Shall we end the call so you can get back to it? | 20:09 |
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| megm | Unless, is anyone else here for the HA Guide meeting? | 20:09 |
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| mattgriffin | so re: alt time... yes. that's on my todo to float that proposal/questionnaire to the mailing list | 20:10 |
| mattgriffin | action mattgriffin send a survey for an alternate (occasional) Eastern hemisphere time for the HA Guide meeting | 20:10 |
| megm | Matt, souonds good. So unless someone else has joined to discuss the HA Guide, are we done? | 20:10 |
| mattgriffin | cool. yeah. i think so | 20:10 |
| mattgriffin | thanks! | 20:11 |
| megm | Have a great week! | 20:11 |
| mattgriffin | you too | 20:11 |
| mattgriffin | #endmeeting | 20:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 6 20:11:22 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha_guide/2015/ha_guide.2015-08-06-20.01.html | 20:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha_guide/2015/ha_guide.2015-08-06-20.01.txt | 20:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha_guide/2015/ha_guide.2015-08-06-20.01.log.html | 20:11 |
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