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| SergeyLukjanov | hey sahara folks :) | 14:00 |
| elmiko | hi | 14:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 27 14:00:55 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
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| vgridnev | o/ | 14:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 14:01 |
| huichun | ^_^ | 14:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | let's wait for a few mins for more folks | 14:01 |
| elmiko | i added couple last minute items to the agenda | 14:01 |
| egafford | \o | 14:01 |
| tosky | hi | 14:01 |
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| sreshetnyak | o/ | 14:02 |
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| esikachev | o/ | 14:03 |
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| crobertsrh | hello/ | 14:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov) | 14:03 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon | 14:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | folks, please | 14:03 |
| crobertsrh | Looks like another patch or two are on the path to merging, which is good. | 14:03 |
| NikitaKonovalov | not much updates from me, the event-log patch may land soon I think | 14:04 |
| vgridnev | folks, please review event-log change | 14:04 |
| crobertsrh | I've had a few people mentioning "very strange" things happening in their horizon related for form submission. I plan to take a look at that today. | 14:04 |
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| egafford | crobertsrh: Any specific flows to watch out for to confirm/deny issues? | 14:04 |
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| crobertsrh | I think that elmiko reported an issue when running a spark job. | 14:05 |
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| elmiko | yea | 14:05 |
| crobertsrh | Job launching was failing at form submission time. | 14:05 |
| vgridnev | crobertsrh, elmiko looks strange | 14:06 |
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| vgridnev | probably client issues? | 14:06 |
| tmckay | I had that issue where java jobs were failling, because the filtering in horizon for empty input/output ids was failing | 14:06 |
| crobertsrh | Not sure. I have not yet managed to reproduce it. | 14:06 |
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| elmiko | i was getting errors submitting the form, it wasn't even making it to the api endpoint | 14:06 |
| tmckay | It was checking for None or "", but I was getting "None" (as a string) | 14:06 |
| tmckay | this was F21 | 14:06 |
| elmiko | i have now backed off to a stable/kilo devstack and am much happier =) | 14:06 |
| elmiko | tmckay: i got some of those too, on f21 | 14:07 |
| tmckay | I hacked it by adding a check for "None" along with [None, ""] | 14:07 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | vgridnev: I think you've told me about this kind of issue | 14:08 |
| vgridnev | NikitaKonovalov, there were same issues, but I was unable to reproduce that on master | 14:08 |
| vgridnev | not sure | 14:09 |
| NikitaKonovalov | tmckay, this is not called hacked in horizon, it's almost a normal flow (adding a contstat to a list of existing workarounds) | 14:09 |
| tmckay | NikitaKonovalov, I meant in the sense that I modified my horizon and restarted in devstack :) | 14:10 |
| NikitaKonovalov | tmckay: you should propose the change I think | 14:11 |
| tmckay | probably | 14:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anything else to discuss in this topic? | 14:11 |
| vgridnev | nothing from me | 14:12 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 14:12 |
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| crobertsrh | It looks like several Sahara-related talks are on tap for Summit. | 14:13 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 14:13 |
| egafford | Remember to check out https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-bug-fix-day if you're looking for action items: we have a few high-prio bugs that haven't been beaten down still (though a good number are in late progress; thanks everyone!) | 14:14 |
| elmiko | i have one more patch(docs) for the keystone sessions, then they will be finished. also i'm preparing the castellan changes and will probably need a FFE for them. | 14:14 |
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| sreshetnyak | I'm working on bug with using Swift via SSL endpoint | 14:15 |
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| sreshetnyak | Also i've updated patches with new HDP plugin | 14:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'll be on PTO next two weeks (Aug 31 - Sept 11), I'll handle 0.11.0 release and liberty-3 as well, but most probably will not join next two IRC meetings, the best way to communicate with me - email slukjanov@mirantis.com | 14:16 |
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| tosky | I'm investigating the usage of Tempest External Plugin Interface for the CLI clients scenario tests in sahara (which currently requires you to copy tempest code...) | 14:16 |
| egafford | Helping out with various bugs; in very late stages of TripleO/Sahara integration. It's installing; last bits are MQ and balancer integration. | 14:16 |
| tosky | not sure I can make it for the freeze, I think I will ask for an exception | 14:17 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: how do you feel about FFE for the improved secret storage? | 14:17 |
| tosky | (if an FFE makes sense for this, it's more a bugfix, but let's see) | 14:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, I think it's not for the freeze - it's not so needed in release to have FFE, but probably we don't need FFE for it at all due to the fact that it's not in the code itself | 14:18 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, if it'll be on review before FF - O think so | 14:18 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: not sure about that, i cut put it up but i'm still waiting on castellan to hit pypi. is it worth posting it even if all the tests will fail? | 14:19 |
| elmiko | i hate to have it slip another cycle, but the timing just might not work out | 14:20 |
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| huichun | is Andrey Pavlov here? | 14:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | huichun, he is on PTO till the end of next week | 14:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, we've decided to push the updates / ACL patches w/o him :) | 14:22 |
| huichun | ok thx sergey | 14:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, yeah, I understand, let's evaluate FFE for it when L3 happen | 14:23 |
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| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: ok, maybe i'll just put it as a draft review | 14:23 |
| vgridnev | huichun, I updated your patch to client, and put separate change with schema in sahara | 14:23 |
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| huichun | vgridnev: ok I will update it after meeting, there is something little to fix ,thx vgridnev | 14:24 |
| vgridnev | huichun, please rebase your patch with suspend / resume on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217635/ | 14:24 |
| huichun | vgridnev: ok i will rebase it after meeting | 14:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Bug triage / fix days / doc days progress | 14:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug triage / fix days / doc days progress (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:26 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, egafford, anything you want to share? | 14:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and thx for organising it :) | 14:27 |
| egafford | SergeyLukjanov: High prios are going well. | 14:27 |
| egafford | Some remaining ones: | 14:27 |
| egafford | [HDP] EDP Hive jobs do not work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1279360 | 14:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1279360 in Sahara "[HDP] EDP Hive jobs do not work" [High,Confirmed] | 14:27 |
| egafford | Tempest client tests fails because register image failed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1430252 | 14:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1430252 in Sahara "Tempest client tests fails because register image failed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Jacob Bin Wang (dongliang0531) | 14:27 |
| huichun | elmiko: scheduler edp patch has been updated,need your review | 14:27 |
| egafford | [HBASE] Service has only 0 RegionServer, when HBASE_REGIONSERVER on every node: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1467922 | 14:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1467922 in Sahara "[HBASE] Service has only 0 RegionServer, when HBASE_REGIONSERVER on every node" [High,Triaged] | 14:28 |
| elmiko | huichun: ack | 14:28 |
| egafford | Create big cluster failed because token expired: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1486653 | 14:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1486653 in Sahara "Create big cluster failed because token expired" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Sergey Reshetnyak (sreshetniak) | 14:28 |
| egafford | There's also a high-prio bug about having multiple concurrent periodic task drivers with multiple engines, but methinks that's a larger architectural issue than bugfix week is likely to tackle. | 14:28 |
| elmiko | yea, that's a biggie | 14:29 |
| elmiko | as far as docs go, i put the etherpad up, we are set for next week. | 14:29 |
| egafford | If we have time to hit any of these, that'd be excellent. | 14:29 |
| elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-doc-update-day | 14:29 |
| elmiko | i will be at the security mid-cycle next week, but i will keep up on the doc reviews. so, everyone grab a doc or two next week! | 14:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Client release plans | 14:31 |
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| egafford | elmiko: If there is known missing documentation, how should we record/sign up to fix those issues? | 14:31 |
| egafford | Ha, take that new topic. | 14:32 |
| elmiko | egafford: are we talking about missing from a current doc, or new doc to be created? | 14:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | do we have something else on previos topic? we could return to it | 14:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #undo | 14:33 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0xa615e50> | 14:33 |
| elmiko | just egafford had a question about new docs | 14:33 |
| egafford | Either/both. Likely missing from a current doc, on average. | 14:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | actually, the idea fo the doc day that we have each cycle I think is to document missing parts and update existing | 14:33 |
| elmiko | missing from a current doc, just follow the proceedure and take the doc and add your content in a review | 14:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | because things are changing and we'd like to keep docs up to date for releases | 14:33 |
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| elmiko | if its a new doc, add the doc to the list and make a review | 14:33 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: +1 | 14:34 |
| egafford | SergeyLukjanov: Yup, of course. Okay, cool. So if we know there are missing bits, might make sense to sign up to review those docs, otherwise same process. | 14:34 |
| elmiko | egafford: i will add a note about this to the pad | 14:34 |
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| elmiko | i think we're set on this topic SergeyLukjanov | 14:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 14:36 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Client release plans | 14:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Client release plans (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:36 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, I think you've already read my email in os-dev | 14:37 |
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| elmiko | \o/ | 14:37 |
| egafford | +1 to \o/ | 14:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #note python-saharaclient release 0.11.0 planned for 8/31-9/1 | 14:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info python-saharaclient release 0.11.0 planned for 8/31-9/1 | 14:38 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | so, let's keep pushing and merge all features support till this dates | 14:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | any questions or issue so far | 14:39 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ? | 14:39 |
| NikitaKonovalov | nop | 14:40 |
| crobertsrh | none from me | 14:40 |
| SergeyLukjanov | the Liberty-3 will be somewhere on the week, most probably Wed - Thu | 14:40 |
| SergeyLukjanov | (/me planning to push the client release from the beach with some good whiskey :) ) | 14:40 |
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| huichun | hi sergey do I have time to submit a spec about improving EDP job log details? currently when job failed, we just let user know failed,but not why, I want to show more error info, so he can know where is detail error in his jar, like class not found error | 14:42 |
| huichun | SergeyLukjanov: | 14:42 |
| SergeyLukjanov | huichun, nope, the FF is next week | 14:42 |
| huichun | ok | 14:42 |
| elmiko | sadly, kinda late for a new spec =( | 14:42 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Liberty-3 | 14:43 |
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| tmckay | huichun, but it can be submitted for M cycle anway | 14:43 |
| tmckay | it's a good idea, I have thought about it too | 14:43 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, definitely a good M cycle item | 14:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | huichun, yeah, really sorry about that but we're already going into FF | 14:43 |
| huichun | tmckay: ok will submit at that cycle | 14:43 |
| crobertsrh | We briefly talked about it in Vancouver. | 14:43 |
| huichun | ^_^ | 14:43 |
| tmckay | huichun, it can be submitted now, it will just get bumped | 14:43 |
| elmiko | sounds like a good spec though, we need better error logs | 14:43 |
| huichun | tmckay: ok | 14:43 |
| tosky | definitely, better error logs++ | 14:44 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I think the FFEs could be good discussed on the next IRC meeting | 14:44 |
| tosky | (and errors--) | 14:44 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Ceilometer at the gate | 14:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ceilometer at the gate (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:44 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/072958.html | 14:44 |
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| elmiko | i added this | 14:45 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I've assigned bug to myself and have patch prepared to fix this (saw this email yesterday) | 14:45 |
| elmiko | cdent reached out to us, to let us know about the changes to ceilometer | 14:45 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1489436 | 14:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1489436 in Sahara "ceilometer becoming a devstack plugin will impact gate job config" [Low,Triaged] - Assigned to Sergey Lukjanov (slukjanov) | 14:45 |
| elmiko | ah, excellent. SergeyLukjanov++ | 14:45 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it's very simple, just returning back ceilo when it'll be extracted from devstack | 14:45 |
| elmiko | yea | 14:45 |
| elmiko | just wanted to make sure we were on top of it | 14:46 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | cool | 14:47 |
| SergeyLukjanov | any news re Sahara / Zaqar? | 14:48 |
| elmiko | i've been doing some research about zaqar | 14:48 |
| * flaper87 here if you guys need help or have questions | 14:48 | |
| elmiko | for the guest client, but also for a possible experiment | 14:48 |
| elmiko | flaper87: yea, we still need to talk sometime! | 14:48 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Sahara / Zaqar integration for guest agents implementation | 14:48 |
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| elmiko | not much to report yet, but i am starting to play with the zaqar api, mainly learning the ropes so far | 14:49 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, flaper87, I think we should find some time on design summit for the Zaqar-based unified agent talk | 14:49 |
| elmiko | i also want to try something with dumping log data to a queue, but this is very experimental | 14:49 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: +1 | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | SergeyLukjanov: sounds good, what if we talk a bit earlier and we do a hacking session ? | 14:49 |
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| elmiko | we're also going to talk about zaqar a little at the security mid-cycle | 14:50 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yeah, sure, hopefully, we should have a proposal at least for summit :) | 14:50 |
| elmiko | flaper87: i'm down with that | 14:50 |
| egafford | flaper87: That'd almost certainly make discussion time more valuable, yeah. | 14:50 |
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| * flaper87 writes all that down | 14:51 | |
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| elmiko | that's all i had | 14:51 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | Future of Sahara code inside the Horizon | 14:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Future of Sahara code inside the Horizon | 14:53 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | do we have something to chat about here today? | 14:53 |
| crobertsrh | Not sure anything has really changed. | 14:53 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I think we can leave this for the summit | 14:53 |
| crobertsrh | Yes, at summit, we can agree to go back to our own repo :) | 14:54 |
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| elmiko | lol | 14:54 |
| tellesnobrega | NikitaKonovalov, and crobertsrh can you give me a hand to get some reviews in the storm ui patch? | 14:54 |
| crobertsrh | Absolutely. | 14:54 |
| tellesnobrega | it would be great to have that done so the storm talk can be better presented | 14:54 |
| NikitaKonovalov | tellesnobrega: we'll try | 14:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 14:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:54 | |
| tellesnobrega | thanks | 14:55 |
| elmiko | tellesnobrega: even if you have to use experimental code for the talk, i think its ok | 14:55 |
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| crobertsrh | tellesnobrega: I've already givenit a +1 :) | 14:55 |
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| elmiko | NikitaKonovalov: we need to talk sometime after next week about the sparkhara talk too | 14:55 |
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| tellesnobrega | elmiko, sure, but it sounds better to say it is already there | 14:55 |
| elmiko | i'd like to go over our plans and figure out how we can integrate | 14:55 |
| crobertsrh | List of topics for summit? | 14:55 |
| elmiko | tellesnobrega: +1 | 14:55 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | elmiko: yes we can talk in #sahara channel | 14:55 |
| elmiko | NikitaKonovalov: definitely | 14:55 |
| tellesnobrega | crobertsrh, i saw the +1, maybe you can ping some horizon people to take a look, you have more influence there | 14:56 |
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| crobertsrh | Sure, I'll give my magic wand a try :) | 14:57 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks :) | 14:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 2 mins left | 14:57 |
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| elmiko | have fun on vacation SergeyLukjanov =) | 14:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thx :) | 14:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | here is an etherpad for FFEs proposals http://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-ffes | 14:59 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 27 14:59:38 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-08-27-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-08-27-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thank you folks! | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-08-27-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
| elmiko | thanks SergeyLukjanov | 14:59 |
| tellesnobrega | bye | 14:59 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks | 14:59 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks NikitaKonovalov | 14:59 |
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| regXboi | moo | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | h | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | hi | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 27 15:00:46 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam Agenda | 15:01 |
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| vikram_ | hi | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | hi all, let’s get moving. | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| carl_baldwin | Liberty-3 will be around the 31st. Time is running out. | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | That will be feature freeze also. | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | mestery has mentioned the possibility of an FFE for address scopes and BGP. | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | I imagine that even with a FFE, we’ll need to have fully functional code in the next couple of days. | 15:03 |
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| * carl_baldwin doesn’t enjoy the experience of rushing an incomplete feature in and then paying the very heavy price for it later. :) | 15:04 | |
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| vikram_ | agreed :) | 15:04 |
| * regXboi cough *dvr?* cough | 15:04 | |
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| Juno | currently, there is no blueprint about BGP MPLS VPN, right? | 15:04 |
| * neiljerram arrives a little late, sorry. | 15:04 | |
| Juno | is there any plan about BGP MPLS VPN or BGP MPLS EVPN? | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | BTW, thanks all for running the meeting last week. I meant to join, even while travelling but suffered from an embarrassing mental TZ miscalculation. | 15:04 |
| regXboi | carl_bladwin: no worries - mlavalle was on top of things | 15:05 |
| neiljerram | easily donw | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | Juno: There is and it is being discussed extensively on the ML. It is a separate project and is getting good attention. | 15:05 |
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| * carl_baldwin is glad to have mlavalle around | 15:05 | |
| mlavalle | ;-) | 15:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 15:06 |
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| Juno | Carl: great, will BGP MPLS VPN integrated with BGP dynamic routing? | 15:06 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: if we have time I'd like to talk a little about DVR at the end | 15:07 |
| regXboi | if not, it can wait until after L-3 | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | Juno: No plans now but it is a possible eventuality. | 15:07 |
| vikram_ | Juno: Not now.. | 15:07 |
| Juno | I find there are 2 blueprint about BGP, one is BGPVPN, the other is dynamic routing, will the both integrated together? | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: ack | 15:07 |
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| tidwellr | Juno: let's chat after this | 15:07 |
| neiljerram | Everything in Neutron is integrated together, in some sense. That's the point. | 15:07 |
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| carl_baldwin | Moving on... | 15:09 |
| Juno | what is the release plan about BGPVPN and dynamic routing? | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Bugs | 15:09 |
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| tidwellr | Juno: let's chat offline | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: How are bugs looking? | 15:09 |
| Juno | how to touch you offline? | 15:09 |
| tidwellr | irc is fine | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | our last critical bug was closed a few days ago thanks to regXboi | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | thank you so much | 15:10 |
| Juno | ok | 15:10 |
| * regXboi is still watching the gate in case it comes back | 15:10 | |
| neiljerram | Juno: in the #openstack-neutron channel | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | we only hva high importance, most of them in progress | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: regXboi: excellent | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | I am following https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1461172 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:10 |
| amuller_mtg | mlavalle++ | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | I haven't benn able to reproduce locally, so I am digging in logstash | 15:11 |
| regXboi | mlavalle: I found 4 cases in the last 48 hours | 15:11 |
| regXboi | but that was all | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | it has happened 10 times over the past 7 days | 15:11 |
| regXboi | nevermind :) | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | so i'll dig there and update accordingly | 15:12 |
| neiljerram | Is there perhaps something structurally wrong with the gate or infra at the moment? Delays seem really long. | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | as far as https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1365473 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1365473 in neutron "Unable to create a router that's both HA and distributed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Adolfo Duarte (adolfo-duarte) | 15:12 |
| regXboi | yes, on this - I'm no longer sure *which* patchsets apply to it anymore | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | seems to be worked on, but i'll ping Adolfo to see really how it is going | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I’ve recently picked up reviewing this bug. | 15:13 |
| amuller_mtg | mlavalle: carl_baldwin: I'm involved there as well | 15:13 |
| * carl_baldwin goes to find the two he’s reviewing. | 15:13 | |
| regXboi | can we get the bug updated with the *real* patch sets? | 15:13 |
| amuller_mtg | jschwarz is helping there as well | 15:13 |
| * jschwarz is reading | 15:13 | |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196893 | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | ^ This is where I started reviewing yesterday. | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I'll update the bug with the patchset so we can keep track | 15:14 |
| jschwarz | yes sorry, i'm with you | 15:14 |
| jschwarz | so I'm debugging a problem with HA+DVR routers where some of the flows get deleted somewhere in the binding stage | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | Are there any patches other than this one and the one that depends on it? (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143169/) | 15:15 |
| jschwarz | also l2pop seems to non-deterministicly delete the vxlan- devices from one or more of the hosts | 15:15 |
| amuller_mtg | carl_baldwin: naw it's just the 2 patches | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller_mtg: ack | 15:15 |
| amuller_mtg | one for server, one for agent | 15:15 |
| regXboi | ok... then the launchpad is correct | 15:15 |
| amuller_mtg | this will obviously slip L3, we'll need to decide if we want to ask for an extension or target it for M1 | 15:15 |
| amuller_mtg | I'm waiting on jschwarz's investigation | 15:16 |
| amuller_mtg | he'll determine the status of it | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller_mtg: jschwarz: Thanks | 15:16 |
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| regXboi | I've got one other to put on the list from the backlog as I'd like to see if it can make L-3 | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | regXboi: any other dvr bugs you want to highlight? | 15:17 |
| regXboi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1479130 | 15:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479130 in neutron "DVR:Removing an interface from router with multiple interfaces and with ext gw set does not remove interface from SNAT namespace" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:17 |
| regXboi | launchpad has three patch sets associated with that one (so far), so I'm not sure if it will make L-3 | 15:17 |
| regXboi | but I'd like to see if we can push it across the line | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I’ll have a look at this to see where it stands. I proposed an alternate way to resolve it based on pinpointing the commit that broke it. | 15:18 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: ack | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I need to touch base with Swami to confirm that it fixes it. | 15:18 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: even better :) | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will sync with Swamy on 1479130 | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | We’ll try to get it in this week. | 15:19 |
| regXboi | After 8/1 I plan on sitting down an re-prio-ing the mass of "Medium" bugs | 15:19 |
| regXboi | er 9/1 | 15:19 |
| regXboi | the good news is the backlog is coming down :) | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: great, thanks for that. | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other bugs? | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | regXboi: ++ | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | not from me.... | 15:20 |
| regXboi | nope - | 15:20 |
| john-davidge | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212818/ could use another +workflow | 15:20 |
| john-davidge | got caught by a merge conflict last night | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: ack, will look soon | 15:21 |
| * regXboi has none to give :( | 15:21 | |
| john-davidge | thanks :) | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | Okay, moving on. Let’s skip routed networks until after Liberty-3. | 15:21 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:21 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: vikram_ : Over to you. | 15:22 |
| Juno | I have a question about bgp-dynamic-routing, | 15:22 |
| Juno | why it does not support vrf? | 15:22 |
| tidwellr | Juno: keeping things simple at first | 15:22 |
| tidwellr | we're having a hard enough time getting basic functionality in | 15:23 |
| tidwellr | which is a great segway to status | 15:23 |
| vikram_ | Juno: Lot will come :) | 15:23 |
| Juno | ok, i think if not support vrf, the bgp dynamic routing only used to advertise floating ip | 15:24 |
| tidwellr | Juno: let's talk offline, I disagree with that assertion | 15:24 |
| Juno | if user want to advertise tenant subnets, they can not use it | 15:24 |
| Juno | ok | 15:25 |
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| tidwellr | I'm skeptical we'll get this in to Liberty | 15:25 |
| tidwellr | as carl_baldwin mentioned, I don't want to rush this and end up with big headaches later | 15:25 |
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| vikram_ | tidwellr:+1 | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: That may be the reality. I know the feeling. I’ve had a number of things slip to the next cycle. | 15:26 |
| vikram_ | We got the code almost ready but suspect test sufficiency | 15:26 |
| tidwellr | we're still gluing together the server and agent RPC's, address scope awareness isn't there, and the automated tests don't account for DVR and non-DVR cases very thoroughly | 15:26 |
| devvesa | hi | 15:26 |
| neiljerram | Presumably it has some pieces merged already? Are those OK for Liberty as they are? | 15:27 |
| tidwellr | neiljerram: nope, nothing has merged | 15:27 |
| devvesa | I'll start vacations next week, but I feel in debt with you vikram_ and tidwellr | 15:27 |
| tidwellr | devvesa: no worries | 15:27 |
| devvesa | because I've been out too much | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: hi! Good to see you. | 15:27 |
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| tidwellr | you've given us a good head start | 15:27 |
| devvesa | i'll try to help you during next week | 15:27 |
| devvesa | carl_baldwin: hi! thanks :) | 15:27 |
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| tidwellr | I'm inclined to aim to merge in M-1 | 15:27 |
| devvesa | I'll not try, I'll do :) | 15:27 |
| vikram_ | devvesa: review wil be helpful | 15:28 |
| devvesa | sure vikram_ | 15:28 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: vikram_: devvesa: Thanks for reporting in. Keep up the good work and I’m sure we’ll have something merged when Mitaka opens up. | 15:28 |
| vikram_ | carl_baldwin: With FFE how much time we can buy? | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | vikram_: It is hard to say. Usually not more than a week or two. Much later than that would likely been seen as risky for Liberty final. | 15:30 |
| vikram_ | carl_badwin: ok.. | 15:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | Also, I view FFEs as more about giving a little extra time to review and test code that is complete. But, others may have a different view. | 15:30 |
| tidwellr | we're still iterating some basic things, so an FFE wouldn't be appropriate | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | Keep pushing to complete functionality and we can look at it then. | 15:31 |
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| vikram_ | ok | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: that is a very useful definition | 15:31 |
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| carl_baldwin | Anything else on BGP? | 15:33 |
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| steve____ | yes, | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | steve____: ? | 15:34 |
| steve____ | how many use case bgp dynamic will support | 15:34 |
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| steve____ | I found 2 in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196452/7/doc/source/devref/bgp_speaker.rst | 15:34 |
| steve____ | except this, any more else | 15:34 |
| tidwellr | steve___: the devref is incomplete | 15:34 |
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| tidwellr | we've been targeting FIP host routes, tenant networks (address scope aware), and DVR host routes | 15:35 |
| steve____ | yes, in devref, bgp can only advertise fip, it will limit the bgp value | 15:35 |
| tidwellr | steve___: it can advertise more than FIP's | 15:36 |
| steve____ | ok | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | It is well understood that the current proposal limits the value. We are iterating and hope to get to something much fuller in the end. | 15:36 |
| tidwellr | anyway, we can discuss in openstack-neutron after this | 15:36 |
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| tidwellr | input on future direction would be great | 15:36 |
| steve____ | sure | 15:36 |
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| vikram_ | tidwellr: I have few :-) | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | Let’s skip a few topics … | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic dns-resolution | 15:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Over to you... | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | hi | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | yesterday we merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200952/ | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | thanks to all the reviewers who helped to get this thorugh | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | very usful feedback all the time! | 15:38 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ++ Nice job. | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | right now working on the external side. This week I am getting the designate client loaded in Neutron | 15:39 |
| johnbelamaric | +1 ! | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | once I do that, I think the rest of the work is very similar to what we have already merged, so I expect rapid progress | 15:39 |
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| mlavalle | so I expect to have functional code by the end of next week | 15:40 |
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| johnbelamaric | mlavalle: note my comment on there - I still don't see a need to query the zones | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Great, keep pinging reviewers (including me) to stay on top of it. | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | johnbelamaric: I saw that =and I intend to follow your advice | 15:41 |
| johnbelamaric | mlavalle: even better :) | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | johnbelamaric: btw, thank for the feedback! | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | I will also start bugging johnthetubaguy to get the nova side moving asap | 15:42 |
| johnbelamaric | mlavalle: sure. it's selfish too. I'll add an Infoblox driver for this interface in networking-infoblox. Less work to do that is better :) | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | johnbelamaric: I know :-) | 15:42 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: It is great to have your perspective in this. | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Address Scopes | 15:44 |
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| carl_baldwin | I’m happy to say that I believe that my implementation is fully functional and you could try it out today from the gerrit chain. | 15:45 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: fantastic! | 15:45 |
| john-davidge | Awesome! | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | I’m sad to say that testing is still abismal and I’m embarrassed. So, I’m going to continue to invest time on writing proper tests. | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | So, I don’t believe that it is ready to merge yet and they’re marked WIP to reflect that. | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ll continue to push to the 31st to get this cleaned up. | 15:47 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: is the link handy? | 15:47 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Do you see any parts of it changing significantly other than the tests? | 15:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/address-scopes,n,z | 15:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: I don’t think so but sometimes feedback has a way of changing that. | 15:48 |
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| * carl_baldwin loves feedback but it can be difficult to swallow at first sometimes. :) | 15:48 | |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Haha, I have no idea what you’re talking about… | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: :) I dish it out so I ought to be able to take it, right? | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | That’s all I have. | 15:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic IPv6 Prefix Delegation | 15:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: great job here. | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | Anything still pending? | 15:51 |
| john-davidge | Thanks! The ongoing feedback from everyone over the months was invaluable, I’m really happy with the state when it merged | 15:51 |
| john-davidge | Nothing still pending, I closed the blueprint this morning :) | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | The one thing that fell out of this is the default subnet pool config option. The more I think about it, the more I think we need to deprecate it and come up with something better. | 15:52 |
| john-davidge | Looking forward to talking about future improvements | 15:52 |
| amuller | it was merged? oh my that's good | 15:52 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Yes I agree, hopefully we can hash something out to discuss at the summit | 15:53 |
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| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: ++ | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ll post a review to deprecate it. Maybe we can begin the discussion there. | 15:54 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will post a review to deprecate the default subnet pool option. | 15:54 |
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| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Do you propose deprecating the option before we agree on an alternative? | 15:55 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: No, I just want a place-holder and somewhere to collect thoughts. | 15:55 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: For the record I would have no strong feelings against doing that, PD could easily be enabled with its own config option | 15:55 |
| carl_baldwin | Maybe there is a better way but that should get us started. | 15:56 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Ok great | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | I won’t let it merge until Mitaka so that we can deprecate for Mitaka along with developing an alternative in Mitaka. | 15:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 15:57 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I've got one vis-a-vis DVR | 15:57 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Sounds good. Happy to volunteer my time to helping develop that alternative | 15:57 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: my confidence at being in Tokyo is up to 95% now :) so, we should but the DHCP relay piece on the agenda somewhere | 15:57 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: prob. only there Tues-Thu, maybe Fri AM (haven't booked flight yet) | 15:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: go | 15:58 |
| regXboi | at the operator mid-cycle meetup (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-meetup) on of the major asks was DVR for LB (well not an ask, more a "if you want us to take this seriously, make it work with LB" statement) | 15:58 |
| regXboi | and I've been thinking that the OVS DVR design could use some ... improving | 15:59 |
| regXboi | so I'm wondering if we should consider doing OVS for LB as a separate design to see if we can come up with something that isn't as complex as what we have now | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: We’ve looked at this a couple of ways. We should probably take this to the neutron room… | 15:59 |
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| mickeys | FWaaS is limited to north/south only with DVR. There is an etherpad started going over the problem with east/west and potential solutions. Would really like some feedback on the etherpad. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FWaaS_with_DVR | 15:59 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: ack | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | mickeys: ack, thanks | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| tidwellr | Juno steve___: we can take the BGP discussion to openstack-neutron if you're still interested | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 27 16:00:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-08-27-15.00.html | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-08-27-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-08-27-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| vikram_ | bye | 16:00 |
| regXboi | oom | 16:00 |
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| johnbelamaric | bye | 16:00 |
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| etoews | #startmeeting api wg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 27 16:00:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is etoews. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api wg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
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| Nikolay_St | hi | 16:00 |
| elmiko | o/ | 16:00 |
| cdent | hola | 16:00 |
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| Juno | tidwellr: you mean talk about BGP in this channel now? | 16:02 |
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| etoews | Juno: wrong timing. i think your people have moved to the neutron channel. | 16:02 |
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| etoews | #topic agenda | 16:03 |
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| etoews | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:03 |
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| Juno | etoews: what is the channel name? | 16:03 |
| etoews | i'm going to guess #openstack-neutron but i have no idea really | 16:03 |
| etoews | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:03 |
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| etoews | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-08-13-16.01.html | 16:04 |
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| Juno | etoews: thanks | 16:04 |
| etoews | np | 16:05 |
| etoews | looks like there wasn't a meeting from last week so those action items are from 2 weeks ago. | 16:05 |
| elmiko | well, i put up the etherpad, and started to fill it in. but not too much there yet | 16:05 |
| edleafe | o/ | 16:05 |
| elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-api-wg-session-plans | 16:05 |
| elmiko | also, i will be in tokyo, so i can help moderate those sessions. assuming no collisions | 16:06 |
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| etoews | awesome. thanks elmiko. | 16:06 |
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| elmiko | do we know if we'll have 2 sessions, or 1 big one, or? | 16:06 |
| etoews | are you asking cdent? | 16:08 |
| cdent | sorry | 16:08 |
| etoews | (or anyone else who will be at the summit for that matter) | 16:08 |
| cdent | was in a different window | 16:08 |
| elmiko | yea, i guess so. i can't remember, did you request 2 sessions cdent ? | 16:08 |
| cdent | I signed us up on the spreadsheet for a single long session | 16:08 |
| elmiko | ok, cool | 16:08 |
| elmiko | i'll adjust the pad to be more agenda related then, instead of broken out by session | 16:08 |
| cdent | I wrote to the organizer to ask about whether we were supposed to split or could have more and got no response (this was the day after the last time I was at a meeting) | 16:09 |
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| elmiko | ah ok | 16:09 |
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| cdent | the precedent on the spreadsheet was that people were doing a single block | 16:09 |
| elmiko | also, i could probably use some help filling out the content for the session | 16:09 |
| cdent | elmiko: I'll try to help with that | 16:09 |
| elmiko | etoews: not sure if you have any items we should address at the summit | 16:09 |
| elmiko | cdent: thanks! | 16:09 |
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| etoews | nothing in particular. a state of the union to kick things off would be good. | 16:10 |
| etoews | discussion on getting more people engaged. | 16:11 |
| elmiko | that's a biggie | 16:11 |
| etoews | here's an important one, discussion on getting people to use the guidelines in reviews | 16:11 |
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| elmiko | cool, writing this down on the pad | 16:12 |
| cdent | yeah, being able to habitiually link to sections of the guidelines wil be handy | 16:12 |
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| etoews | ultimately we want people to be reviewing based on the guidelines. -1 because you didn't follow guideline x [LINK]. +1 because you did. etc. | 16:12 |
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| etoews | i noticed some interesting api related sessions in the sched on the main conf side of things. | 16:13 |
| etoews | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/schedule/design-summit | 16:13 |
| etoews | #link https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/97bb02c6bbdfa5f5699b82ea1be2a810?iframe=no&w=&sidebar=yes&bg=no | 16:13 |
| etoews | #link https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/f4d9a391b6bdd09d6bcd9a5571fa2739?iframe=no&w=&sidebar=yes&bg=no | 16:14 |
| etoews | there's more too | 16:14 |
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| etoews | the next topic is on Mitaka sessions but i guess we already covered that right elmiko? | 16:15 |
| elmiko | yea, i think so | 16:15 |
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| etoews | #topic guidelines | 16:17 |
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| etoews | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:17 |
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| etoews | i want to replace that link with a link to our dashboard. it's almost ready. | 16:18 |
| elmiko | sweet | 16:18 |
| ryansb | nice | 16:18 |
| Nikolay_St | nice | 16:18 |
| etoews | it'll make things a bit more clear for where guidelines are at. | 16:18 |
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| etoews | it's definitely not perfect and still needs eyes on it to make sure things don't slip through the cracks (w.r.t. what the dashboard query system is actually capable of) | 16:19 |
| elmiko | i thought sdague was going to remove the dep. from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189738/ , should we just repost it without the dep? | 16:19 |
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| sdague | sorry, I lost track of that one | 16:20 |
| sdague | I honestly thought we'd get to resolution on the 501 issue well before now | 16:20 |
| elmiko | no worries, i figured you had higher prio stuff =) | 16:20 |
| elmiko | i wish we woud have... | 16:20 |
| etoews | sdague: i put the freeze on the 501 to move it forward. | 16:21 |
| sdague | so, given that it looks like the 501 one is schedule for merge next week, I'd just say we move forward assuming that will merge | 16:21 |
| etoews | we don't have unanimity but that's okay. | 16:21 |
| elmiko | ok, fair | 16:21 |
| etoews | ya. at this point it's (hopefully) just a waiting game. | 16:21 |
| elmiko | i just felt bad because the stuck one has been there since vancouver =( | 16:22 |
| sdague | yeh, that's fine. It's a slow march :) | 16:23 |
| elmiko | cool | 16:23 |
| etoews | i'd like to highlight this process change about removing the voting restriction #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217764/ | 16:23 |
| etoews | elmiko: can you please move your +2 to +1 since it's not frozen yet? | 16:23 |
| elmiko | i think it's a step in the right direction | 16:23 |
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| elmiko | yea definitely, sorry bout that. i was a little unsure about the process as opposed to guidelines | 16:24 |
| etoews | that's a fair point | 16:24 |
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| elmiko | it seems ok to me if we just stick to the rule that +2 is only for freeze. but process type stuff won't need a freeze, so we can just get some consensus then merge. does that sound fiar? | 16:25 |
| etoews | okay. forget what i said. :) | 16:25 |
| elmiko | lol, too late ;P | 16:25 |
| etoews | ++ | 16:25 |
| elmiko | so, gather a few more +1 then we can merge it | 16:26 |
| etoews | sure | 16:26 |
| etoews | there was some interest in versioning on the mailing list. | 16:26 |
| * ryansb +1'd | 16:26 | |
| etoews | alex_xu: think you'll have some time to update your microversion guidelines? | 16:27 |
| etoews | i need to update #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167793/ | 16:28 |
| etoews | jaypipes: do you have some time to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183599/ ? | 16:28 |
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| etoews | has anyone seen Steven Kaufer around lately? | 16:29 |
| etoews | we need to figure out what to do with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162716/ | 16:29 |
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| etoews | i'm inclined to abandon it and proceed as i mentioned in my comment there. | 16:30 |
| cdent | +1 | 16:30 |
| elmiko | is there an amount of time, after which, it is not impolite to take over a review? | 16:30 |
| etoews | i'd say yes | 16:30 |
| elmiko | so, like a month maybe? then it's fair to rewrite/update/etc | 16:31 |
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| elmiko | or is that too long | 16:31 |
| etoews | ya. that sounds about right to me. | 16:31 |
| elmiko | cool | 16:31 |
| ryansb | 1 month seems legit | 16:31 |
| elmiko | maybe we can unstuck some of these older guidelines | 16:31 |
| ryansb | I imagine after a month the number of people that would complain would be quite low | 16:31 |
| edleafe | if the submitter is around, ping first. | 16:31 |
| edleafe | otherwise a month is more than enough | 16:32 |
| elmiko | yea, don't want to be rude | 16:32 |
| ryansb | +1 | 16:32 |
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| cdent | elmiko: speak for yourself, jerk | 16:32 |
| elmiko | lol | 16:32 |
| edleafe | cdent: haha | 16:32 |
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| elmiko | fair, i nominate cdent as the api-wg rude-boy | 16:33 |
| cdent | \o/ | 16:33 |
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| etoews | seconded | 16:33 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:33 |
| etoews | annegentle was looking for feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214817/ | 16:34 |
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| elmiko | ooh, good point. meant to get back to that | 16:34 |
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| etoews | ya. i've got a few comments to make there too. | 16:36 |
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| etoews | any other guidelines people want to highlight? | 16:37 |
| elmiko | nothing from me | 16:38 |
| etoews | #topic APIImpact | 16:39 |
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| etoews | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+AND+(message:ApiImpact+OR+message:APIImpact),n,z | 16:39 |
| etoews | anything anyone wants to highlight here? | 16:39 |
| cdent | nothing specific but: it's pretty cool the number of them, people have caught on | 16:40 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:40 |
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| etoews | i see the Artifact Repository API specification has rumbled back to life. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177397/ | 16:41 |
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| cdent | yeah | 16:42 |
| cdent | that's a good way to put it | 16:42 |
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| etoews | i'm looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155931/4/specs/liberty/api-order-ssl-add-reissue-support.rst,unified and found http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/barbican-specs/specs/kilo/certificate-order-api.html that doesn't follow our metadata guideline | 16:45 |
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| etoews | i expect it's already baked in but i'll comment anyway | 16:46 |
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| etoews | any other topics people want to discuss? | 16:47 |
| elmiko | the barbican folks have been really good about checking api-wg stuff recently. i think the kilo spec may have been before this time | 16:47 |
| cdent | I think I mentioned this last time, but wanted to say again: ceilometer is now gatting on a fully http api driven integration job that integrates ceilo, aodh, gnocchi, heat, and nova | 16:48 |
| cdent | (using gabbi) | 16:48 |
| elmiko | nice | 16:48 |
| cdent | It is rather cool because it is so simple but powerful at the same time | 16:48 |
| cdent | and api-only seems like a good validation of how it is supposed to work | 16:49 |
| cdent | https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/tests/integration/gabbi/gabbits-live/autoscaling.yaml | 16:49 |
| cdent | and there are several other tests pending merge which add to that | 16:49 |
| cdent | it's easy to improve and all the usual good things | 16:50 |
| jaypipes | etoews: ugh, sorry, I will look at pushing a rev on that. sorry for the delay. | 16:50 |
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| cdent | jaypipes: you should gander on that link I just posted if you have a moment | 16:50 |
| etoews | np. i'm probably the worst offender with my errors guideline. | 16:50 |
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| etoews | cdent: have you had interest from any other projects in using gabbi? | 16:53 |
| cdent | besdies elmiko having some thoughts on it, no | 16:53 |
| cdent | I think that's partly a matter of PR | 16:53 |
| cdent | and all the usual too much to do that everyone experiences | 16:53 |
| elmiko | yea, i'm trying to push for gabbi testing in our v2 api | 16:53 |
| elmiko | not sure if it will get acceptance from the group though | 16:54 |
| cdent | elmiko: if that happens I'll be curious to hear why | 16:54 |
| elmiko | i think mainly it could be due to our dependence on many other services. but we'll see | 16:54 |
| cdent | it's working so well in the various places I'm aware of it being used that I'd want to persuade | 16:55 |
| cdent | note that the link above is run from the command line, as part of a shell script, not a unittest harness | 16:55 |
| cdent | which provides some interesting ways to build up other services or gathering auth credentials or whatever before hand | 16:56 |
| elmiko | well, when the time comes i will definitely drop you a line | 16:56 |
| cdent | cool, thanks | 16:57 |
| etoews | cool. if there's nothing else we can call it a couple of minutes early. | 16:57 |
| cdent | ✔ | 16:57 |
| etoews | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 27 16:58:10 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-08-27-16.00.html | 16:58 |
| elmiko | thanks etoews | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-08-27-16.00.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-08-27-16.00.log.html | 16:58 |
| etoews | thanks all | 16:58 |
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| docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 27 17:01:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:01 |
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| docaedo | #topic rollcall | 17:01 |
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| docaedo | o/ | 17:01 |
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| docaedo | Hello all :) mainly checking to see if anyone is here - did not manage to plan this meeting today, and kfox1111 can't join | 17:02 |
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| docaedo | so if it'sjust kzaitsev_mb and I, we can keep the conversation on #openstack-app-catalog | 17:02 |
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| docaedo | unless any random passers-by wanted to chat about something on the official meeting channel, during the official meeting time? | 17:03 |
| kzaitsev_mb | =) | 17:03 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sure let's maybe wait a couple of minutes and move back ) | 17:03 |
| docaedo | I'll give it two minutes to see - then we'll end SUPER early and continue the conversation on the app-catalog channel.. | 17:03 |
| docaedo | I guess while we're on the meeting channel I can share this: | 17:04 |
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| docaedo | today I plan to put on an etherpad the application to move app-catalog under the big tent | 17:04 |
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| docaedo | assuming nobody objects on the channel, I hope to put that in today (it's pretty straighforward, and there have only been a few people participating so far so I do not anticipate opposition) | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | just for the record — murano-dashboard patch, that should allow app-catalog-ui to access murano forms #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217747/ | 17:05 |
| docaedo | excellent! | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | and we have #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216047/2 | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | that should merge assets and get the api/v1/assets.json | 17:06 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, so I guess anyone willing to take a look at what's happening on eveasdrop would get the feel of this weeks events ) | 17:07 |
| docaedo | yep, I'll make a slight change to that and merge it, then work on updating my infra patch as well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205882/ | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205882/ | 17:07 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: good call to get the update together like that | 17:07 |
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| docaedo | ok, anything else? | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | nope, none from my side at least | 17:08 |
| docaedo | then we're out! thanks kzaitsev_mb ! | 17:08 |
| docaedo | anyone else, please join us on #openstack-app-catalog :) | 17:08 |
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| docaedo | #endmeeting | 17:08 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2015/app_catalog.2015-08-27-17.01.html | 17:08 |
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| megm | Hi, Shamail! | 20:03 |
| Shamail | Hi, megm! | 20:03 |
| Shamail | I went to the wrong room initially. :x | 20:03 |
| megm | Nice to see you back -- has life quieted down for you? | 20:03 |
| megm | Is anyone else here for the ha-guide meeting? | 20:03 |
| Shamail | a little bit! the next couple of weeks look great. | 20:04 |
| megm | Terrific! | 20:04 |
| megm | Matt is on a plane heading for Chicago -- I suppose we should begin. | 20:04 |
| megm | #startmeeting | 20:05 |
| openstack | megm: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 20:05 |
| megm | #startmeeting ha-guide | 20:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 27 20:05:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is megm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha_guide' | 20:05 |
| Shamail | Sounds good. I figured it would be light attendance due to OpenStackSV | 20:05 |
| megm | Ah yes. | 20:05 |
| megm | So, an update as to where we are... We would like to publish something for Liberty, so by 15 October. | 20:06 |
| Shamail | Great! | 20:07 |
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| Shamail | Have people been filing bugs? | 20:07 |
| megm | We need accurate content and then can move the doc from draft to o.o. And we can translate the content after 15 October. | 20:07 |
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| megm | Shamail, that is the problem -- I don't see a lot of activity for the content. | 20:08 |
| Shamail | sorry, what is "o.o."? | 20:08 |
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| megm | It's the tree from which the release will be made. | 20:09 |
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| megm | Hold on and I'll get a link | 20:09 |
| Shamail | ah, thanks. | 20:09 |
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| megm | Andreas published instructions https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Migrate#Completing_conversion_to_RST | 20:10 |
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| * Shamail viewing | 20:10 | |
| Shamail | Thanks, saved bookmark | 20:11 |
| megm | Currently, we build to http://docs.openstack.org/draft/ha-guide/. Now that most of the other guides have been converted to RST, they have set up the new master build site. | 20:11 |
| Shamail | I can do my part(s) over the next two weeks | 20:11 |
| Shamail | starting from Monday | 20:11 |
| megm | Matt and I nixed moving ha-guide because of the current content quality. | 20:12 |
| Shamail | +1 | 20:12 |
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| Shamail | not ready | 20:12 |
| megm | Terrific if you can do some work on those Storage sections. | 20:12 |
| Shamail | Absolutely | 20:12 |
| megm | Alas, I am going to be much less available going forward. | 20:12 |
| Shamail | Ah. :[ | 20:13 |
| megm | Do you need help with the RST coding of your pieces? | 20:13 |
| Shamail | I should be okay with that now | 20:13 |
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| megm | Good. You can always shoot me email and I will try to review your pieces. | 20:14 |
| Shamail | thanks! | 20:14 |
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| megm | So do we have anything else to discuss or do you want to go write? ;-) | 20:15 |
| Shamail | nothing else from my side | 20:15 |
| Shamail | I have a lot of reading/writing :] | 20:15 |
| megm | The have a great week! | 20:15 |
| megm | #endmeeting | 20:15 |
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| Shamail | you too! | 20:15 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 27 20:15:50 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha_guide/2015/ha_guide.2015-08-27-20.05.html | 20:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha_guide/2015/ha_guide.2015-08-27-20.05.txt | 20:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha_guide/2015/ha_guide.2015-08-27-20.05.log.html | 20:15 |
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