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| NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 14 17:00:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 17:00 |
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| devananda | o/ | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | Of course the agenda can be found at: | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 17:00 |
| thiagop | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 17:00 |
| lucasagomes | hello | 17:00 |
| mariojv | \o | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements | 17:00 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | Roll-call: Who's here for the Ironic Meeting? | 17:00 |
| yuriyz | o/ | 17:00 |
| smoriya | o/ | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Greetings, roll-call and announcements (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| mariojv | \o | 17:00 |
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| stendulker | o/ | 17:00 |
| gabriel-bezerra | o/ | 17:00 |
| Madasi | o/ | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | welcome all | 17:00 |
| jroll | \o | 17:00 |
| betherly | o/ | 17:00 |
| rloo | o/ | 17:01 |
| sambetts | o/ | 17:01 |
| clif_h | o/ | 17:01 |
| jroll | I haz announcements when we're ready for them :) | 17:01 |
| NobodyCam | lets jump into it | 17:01 |
| NobodyCam | #topic announcements: | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements: (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 17:01 | |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:01 |
| jroll | hi, a few things: | 17:01 |
| jroll | we released python-ironicclient 0.8.1 today with a whopping 3 changes | 17:02 |
| jroll | that will be stable/liberty for the client | 17:02 |
| NobodyCam | w00t | 17:02 |
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| NobodyCam | I hear tail we may also cut the first bifrost release this week | 17:02 |
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| TheJulia | That is my hope *hopes* | 17:03 |
| NobodyCam | TheJulia: ^^^ ???? | 17:03 |
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| lucasagomes | #link https://gist.github.com/jimrollenhagen/d626f93472ff8bda9759 | 17:03 |
| lucasagomes | changelog (if people are interested) ^ | 17:03 |
| jroll | we'd like to enter a soft freeze for ironic beginning thursday - this means we shouldn't land anything risky. the goal is to release 4.2.0, to be stable/liberty, next thursday | 17:03 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: for the client? | 17:03 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yup | 17:03 |
| jroll | even better link about the client: | 17:03 |
| jroll | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2015-September/000622.html | 17:03 |
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| NobodyCam | awesome | 17:04 |
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| jroll | anyway, cores please honor this soft freeze and don't land anything risky after thursday | 17:04 |
| NobodyCam | also devananda should be back | 17:04 |
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| devananda | yup - i'm back from vacation | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 17:05 |
| jroll | and for the third announcement... we're taking summit session ideas on this etherpad here: | 17:05 |
| jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-ironic-design-summit-ideas | 17:05 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: are you thinking we should we block with -2 until afterthe freeze? | 17:05 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, ack, it's a bit odd to release the client before the server | 17:05 |
| lucasagomes | but we can/should discuss it later | 17:05 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: yes, if needed | 17:05 |
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| devananda | I don't have confirmation from ttx yet about how many slots we'll have -- but I am hoping it will be roughly the same # as last summit | 17:05 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: yeah, let's discuss later, I'd like to think about how we feature freeze (sadface) more for Mitaka | 17:06 |
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| rloo | devananda: i thought ttx sent out email about the slots | 17:06 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: as we don't control the library freeze | 17:06 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, sure +1 | 17:06 |
| devananda | rloo: oh - i may have missed it then when combing through all the backlog ... | 17:06 |
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| rloo | devananda: i htink it was 4, 4, 1/2 day, but not sure. | 17:06 |
| jroll | devananda: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/073654.html | 17:06 |
| jroll | it isn't set in stone yet, that's "proposed" | 17:06 |
| devananda | rloo: ahh yes, there it is | 17:06 |
| lucasagomes | yea | 17:07 |
| devananda | apologies for the noise. i apparently hvae more emails to catch up on | 17:07 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:07 |
| NobodyCam | are there anyother announcements? | 17:08 |
| * jroll is fresh out | 17:08 | |
| NobodyCam | ok then we'll move on... Thank you jroll and everyone | 17:09 |
| NobodyCam | #topic SubTeam: status report | 17:09 |
| NobodyCam | Posted on Whiteboard | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SubTeam: status report (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 17:09 | |
| NobodyCam | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:09 |
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| * jroll updates neutron thing | 17:09 | |
| NobodyCam | awesome Ty :) | 17:10 |
| NobodyCam | comments / question on status's? | 17:11 |
| rloo | jroll, others: are those 11 high bugs stuff we want fixed in liberty release? | 17:12 |
| NobodyCam | giving folks a little time to review | 17:12 |
| rloo | jroll: i haven't looked at your list of bugs in the etherpad (that's why i picked on you) | 17:12 |
| jroll | rloo: oh, I should have mentioned the bug list before :) | 17:12 |
| jroll | rloo: I listed the ones I'd like to see fixed, others may have varying opinions | 17:13 |
| rloo | and i see one HI nova bug there too | 17:13 |
| jroll | (under release status) | 17:13 |
| rloo | jroll: ok, will take a look later, thx. | 17:13 |
| * lucasagomes would like the clean* stuff in | 17:13 | |
| rloo | lucasagomes: the abort? | 17:14 |
| lucasagomes | the bugs seems to be all in progress as well | 17:14 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: the abort stuff? +1 | 17:14 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, jroll yes sir | 17:14 |
| dtantsur | clean + zapping + RAID are my favourites | 17:14 |
| * NobodyCam refreshes his agenda and see a new line item | 17:14 | |
| rloo | maybe folks can annotate/add to jroll's list then | 17:14 |
| jroll | yes, feel free | 17:15 |
| lucasagomes | do you guys think that a review jam would help with some of it? | 17:15 |
| jroll | maybe? | 17:15 |
| NobodyCam | when? | 17:15 |
| jroll | I know rloo and myself have just been constantly review jamming | 17:15 |
| jroll | by ourselves :P | 17:15 |
| lucasagomes | if we have a quorum, idk tomorrow or wed. we should try get the fixes in | 17:15 |
| lucasagomes | most (if not all bugs) already have a fix proposed | 17:15 |
| jroll | I'd be down for a jam though | 17:15 |
| rloo | jroll: i was wondering. yeah, by ourselves. Seems to be working fine :) | 17:16 |
| NobodyCam | I can attempt to make it | 17:16 |
| rloo | i'd like to focus on feature patches this week. fine with a review jam for bugs after that. | 17:16 |
| lucasagomes | yeah we can ask cores to prioritize those stuff and they can review at their own time | 17:16 |
| lucasagomes | that works too | 17:16 |
| * lucasagomes will focus on review more tomorrow | 17:16 | |
| NobodyCam | don't we have a hi proitory rewiew list (etherpad) somewhere? | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | I think we already do :) | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | (that was for " prioritize those stuff") | 17:17 |
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| rloo | i think for sure we should regroup on Monday, to prioritize/review jam... | 17:17 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: ++ | 17:17 |
| yuriyz | +1 for create a priority review list | 17:18 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: under release status on the whiteboard, I put my view of the priorities for the rest of this cycle... deva seemed to agree with them | 17:18 |
| NobodyCam | awesome then I'll start with that | 17:18 |
| devananda | ++ | 17:19 |
| NobodyCam | good to move on to the first item on the agenda | 17:19 |
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| NobodyCam | #topic Config drive support for hybrid whole disk images | 17:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Config drive support for hybrid whole disk images (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 17:20 | |
| NobodyCam | stendulker: thats you | 17:20 |
| stendulker | Thanks NobodyCam | 17:20 |
| stendulker | This is about hybrid whole disk images. We cannot add config drive to such images | 17:20 |
| stendulker | parted/sfdisk recognise these images as GPT based while creating config drive | 17:21 |
| NobodyCam | this feels kinda like a bug | 17:21 |
| stendulker | these images cannot be booted in BIOS boot mode once config dive is created | 17:21 |
| stendulker | No error is thrown during config drive ceration | 17:21 |
| devananda | I have an unnatural aversion to using expect scripts | 17:21 |
| jroll | +1 heh | 17:21 |
| stendulker | I have removed expect and using sgdisk instead... | 17:22 |
| lucasagomes | stendulker, I remember we investigate it a bit, do you still have the pre/pos partition layout ? | 17:22 |
| devananda | sgdisk ++ | 17:22 |
| stendulker | was trying to use expect to use 'parted' | 17:22 |
| stendulker | but that did not work | 17:22 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: remember when you switched things to parted, I believe some folks raised concerns about things like this and the need to support sgdisk .... | 17:22 |
| stendulker | have used sgdisk/gdisk combination and poated a patch today | 17:22 |
| jroll | so... is there a question on this topic, other than "can people review this pls?" | 17:22 |
| TheJulia | it sounds like the gpt table just needs to be repaired | 17:22 |
| stendulker | but that will not help in bios boot mode | 17:22 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yeah. There was some discussion about whether use parted or sgdisk | 17:23 |
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| NobodyCam | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1486887 | 17:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1486887 in Ironic "Config drive creation fails in UEFI boot mode for whole disk image " [High,In progress] - Assigned to Shivanand Tendulker (stendulker) | 17:23 |
| stendulker | i openend it for discussion as i was not able to find any solution for bios boot mode for such images | 17:23 |
| lucasagomes | stendulker, so did sgdisk work? | 17:24 |
| stendulker | currently coreos, opensuse creates such hybrid images | 17:24 |
| stendulker | sgdisk works only in UEFI boot mode. No approach works for bios | 17:24 |
| lucasagomes | stendulker, right, have you tried to manually add a partition on the image | 17:24 |
| jlvillal | Are there any Python libraries to manipulate partition tables? | 17:24 |
| lucasagomes | and boot it in BIOS mode? just to see if that works | 17:25 |
| jroll | so this might be a terrible suggestion, but one way to solve this is to pre-create the configdrive partition in the image, label it config-2. the agent will pick this up, as will cloud-init | 17:25 |
| lucasagomes | jlvillal, blivet | 17:25 |
| jlvillal | thx | 17:25 |
| lucasagomes | jlvillal, that's what anaconda uses underneath, it's neat | 17:25 |
| stendulker | lucasagomes: manually in the sense? | 17:25 |
| lucasagomes | stendulker, yes | 17:25 |
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| stendulker | lucasagomes: I tried the steps manually to ensure drive is created. It creates, but boot fails | 17:26 |
| stendulker | jroll: that looks better... | 17:26 |
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| NobodyCam | stendulker: do you have a paste of the actual error? | 17:27 |
| NobodyCam | or when boot fails | 17:27 |
| stendulker | also there is no config drive support for any of iscsi based drivers when whole disk image is deployed | 17:27 |
| jroll | stendulker: it would be nice to work with stock coreos images, but this is a workaround that works... that's what the coreos onmetal image does | 17:27 |
| stendulker | NobodyCam: CoreOs gives red screen on HP Proliant. Opensuse no error is returned, but node goes for reboot perpetually | 17:28 |
| devananda | should we continue this discussion on the bug(s) ? seems like it may take more investigation than meeting time permits | 17:28 |
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| stendulker | NobodyCam: I will capture screen shot of coreos boot failure | 17:29 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: yes... but this is the only item on the agenda to | 17:29 |
| NobodyCam | day | 17:29 |
| jroll | devananda: +1, I don't think there's anything contentious here... I don't see any major questions | 17:29 |
| devananda | lots of time for open discussion then :) | 17:29 |
| jroll | it's just "people doing work" | 17:29 |
| devananda | jroll: right | 17:29 |
| TheJulia | stendulker: can you also see if you can dump partition table data for what is on disk when that boot failed, for additional context | 17:30 |
| NobodyCam | are we good with taking this to the review / bug? | 17:30 |
| jroll | or main channel even :P | 17:30 |
| devananda | ++ | 17:30 |
| NobodyCam | thT TOO | 17:30 |
| NobodyCam | gah | 17:30 |
| rloo | ++ | 17:30 |
| NobodyCam | that too :) | 17:30 |
| stendulker | TheJulia: sure | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | stendulker: Thanks | 17:31 |
| jroll | thanks! | 17:31 |
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| jroll | and thank you stendulker for working on it :) | 17:31 |
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| NobodyCam | ok then let jump into : | 17:31 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Open Discussion | 17:31 |
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| devananda | anyone want to discuss summit ideas? | 17:32 |
| jroll | I like summits | 17:32 |
| NobodyCam | just FYI.. I will be making the trek back to cali starting on friday | 17:32 |
| jroll | :P | 17:32 |
| jroll | I definitely want to do a retro on this cycle | 17:32 |
| * jlvillal is glad he got approved last week to attend summit :) | 17:32 | |
| jroll | whether that's a session or part of the group thing friday | 17:32 |
| NobodyCam | so I'll be afk fri thru prob tues / wed | 17:32 |
| jroll | jlvillal: \o/ | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | :) | 17:32 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: woot | 17:33 |
| jroll | you just missed the heat wave :P | 17:33 |
| NobodyCam | ya :) | 17:33 |
| devananda | jroll: retro on releases in particular would be great | 17:33 |
| jlvillal | Not sure if in retro, maybe discussion a little on gate breakages. For like two weeks it seemed our gate repeatedly got broken. Can we do anything to help prevent that better? | 17:33 |
| jroll | devananda: +1 | 17:33 |
| NobodyCam | jlvillal: ++ | 17:33 |
| devananda | jlvillal: is there a summary somewhere of what/how/why it broke? | 17:33 |
| jlvillal | I don't think so. I know Neutron hit us. oslo.versioned.objects hit us. | 17:34 |
| NobodyCam | there are notes on the whiteboard i beleieve | 17:34 |
| jlvillal | Maybe other people remember other reasons. | 17:34 |
| rloo | ubuntu problem | 17:34 |
| jlvillal | Oh yeah, I think on the whiteboard we have been archiving them. | 17:34 |
| devananda | k, i think that'd be a great session | 17:34 |
| jroll | ++ | 17:34 |
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| jroll | maybe more generally "how do we improve our gate" starting with the breakages | 17:34 |
| devananda | we should start the discussion with a post-mortem report // details of each breakage | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | jroll, + functional testing, I guess | 17:35 |
| jroll | yep | 17:35 |
| jlvillal | +1 though realizing I have made little progress :( | 17:35 |
| jroll | jlvillal: lekha should be at the summit iirc | 17:36 |
| devananda | we have implicit dependencies on things like distros, but being implicit, i suspect we could all do with better awraeness of them | 17:36 |
| devananda | and ew have explicit dependencies on other projects (eg, oslo, neutron, etc) -- some of which maybe those projects aren't aware of | 17:36 |
| rloo | as long as the session isn't about 'we need functional testing'. we know that. | 17:36 |
| jlvillal | jroll: Great. | 17:36 |
| devananda | rloo: ++ | 17:36 |
| devananda | "test all the things" makes a great tshirt, but a very short session | 17:36 |
| NobodyCam | lol ++ | 17:36 |
| jroll | hah | 17:37 |
| jlvillal | A hackathon type session might be useful. | 17:37 |
| jlvillal | For functional testing. | 17:37 |
| jroll | yep, sounds like a good friday thing | 17:37 |
| rloo | i'd like our summit sessions to have goals, so that there are action items or concrete things out of them. | 17:37 |
| NobodyCam | thats what friday is for? hackathon stuff no? | 17:37 |
| jroll | friday is for "whatever" | 17:37 |
| jlvillal | Please make it early on Friday. My flight is at 4pm I think :( | 17:38 |
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| rloo | we only have a room for fri AM, so that isn't much time. | 17:38 |
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| NobodyCam | oh | 17:38 |
| rloo | i think it took us about an hour just to figure out what we were going to do on Fri. in last summit. | 17:38 |
| * lucasagomes got disconected :-( | 17:38 | |
| devananda | yea - friday is always awkward | 17:38 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: we're talking about summit sessions | 17:38 |
| devananda | we've never really used hte afternoon, so this time it looks like we won't have one | 17:38 |
| jroll | rloo: sounds like a good reason to get organized ahead of time :) | 17:39 |
| lucasagomes | stendulker, (sorry all) I lost the scrollback. Is it a public image? | 17:39 |
| devananda | jlvillal: by friday we'll all be fried -- hacking on code is not likely, based on past experience | 17:39 |
| stendulker | lucasagomes: yes. | 17:39 |
| lucasagomes | stendulker, we talk about it on #openstack-ironic | 17:39 |
| rloo | yeah, i think the more organized we are, the more we'll get out of the sessions. my hope anyway :) | 17:39 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: ++ | 17:39 |
| jlvillal | lucasagomes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-meeting-3/%23openstack-meeting-3.2015-09-14.log.html | 17:39 |
| devananda | rloo: ++ | 17:39 |
| stendulker | lucasagomes: ok | 17:39 |
| lucasagomes | jlvillal, thanks | 17:39 |
| jlvillal | devananda: Okay, makes sense but :( | 17:40 |
| stendulker | lucasagomes: thank you | 17:40 |
| rloo | IF we have time and can take a look at specs before summit, would be good to have one session to hash out contentious/disagreements with particular specs. | 17:40 |
| devananda | jlvillal: i mean, you're more than welcome to code on friday! | 17:40 |
| devananda | jlvillal: just don't expect me to :p | 17:41 |
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| jlvillal | devananda: Okay :) | 17:41 |
| NobodyCam | it is true that by friday /me 's brain is cooked | 17:41 |
| lucasagomes | jlvillal, re gate breakage https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220516/ this will help (already merged) | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | it could a bit better this time, as we don't have Monday | 17:41 |
| lucasagomes | since now we can test the swift module with ironic | 17:42 |
| JoshNang | NobodyCam: at least it's only 4 days this time | 17:42 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:42 |
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| rloo | wrt the liberty etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-ironic-design-summit-ideas | 17:42 |
| devananda | dtantsur: monday is the board meeting, so some of us will still be busy ... | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | oh, I feel sorry for some of us | 17:42 |
| rloo | i always find it useful (or would think it would be useful if it were there) if folks put their names beside the stuff they enter there | 17:42 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: ++ just like on the agenda | 17:43 |
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| dtantsur | rloo, done | 17:43 |
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| NobodyCam | anything else for OD? | 17:44 |
| jroll | one thing | 17:45 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 17:45 |
| jroll | devananda: when/how do we want to decide on sessions? :) | 17:45 |
| jroll | in a meeting, separate thing, in a secret cave? | 17:45 |
| devananda | shh. don't tell anyone about the secret cave :p | 17:45 |
| TheJulia | wait, you have a secret cave?!?!?! | 17:45 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 17:46 |
| jroll | oops | 17:46 |
| Madasi | bet it's really a hollow volcano | 17:46 |
| devananda | we can change them up to roughly the week before the summit | 17:46 |
| * NobodyCam now unders stands the "same bat time/channel" reffs | 17:46 | |
| devananda | so let's keep discussing on the 'pad and in channel for another month | 17:47 |
| jroll | sounds good | 17:47 |
| devananda | hopefully we can distill things down to the right # of slots by mid october | 17:47 |
| jroll | gives us time to review specs and such too | 17:47 |
| devananda | yup | 17:47 |
| lucasagomes | ++ | 17:48 |
| jroll | cool | 17:48 |
| devananda | I'd rather keep the official lists empty until then, than have to keep changing them as we go | 17:48 |
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| NobodyCam | makes sense | 17:48 |
| devananda | also this gives us time to earmark joint sessions // work with other project teams to decide which track will host it | 17:48 |
| jroll | yeah, sounds good | 17:49 |
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| jlvillal | For joint sessions, are their other projects besides Nova and Neutron we want to work on things with? | 17:49 |
| NobodyCam | maybe oslo? | 17:49 |
| jlvillal | Those are the first two that pop to mind for me. | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | tripleo? not sure here though | 17:49 |
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| jroll | people keep asking about an ironic/neutron session, what do we need to talk about there? the design is done/solid/approved... | 17:49 |
| devananda | kolla? magnum? | 17:49 |
| rloo | last summit, we talked with cinder but not sure what happened with that work | 17:49 |
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| dtantsur | devananda, oh, that might be interesting | 17:50 |
| NobodyCam | kolla's with guns? | 17:50 |
| devananda | tripleo is using ironic in their cloud region | 17:50 |
| NobodyCam | :p | 17:50 |
| jroll | unfortunately magnum on baremetal isn't terribly useful without neutron networking stuff :( | 17:50 |
| smoriya | roo: I posted the spec for cinder integration | 17:50 |
| NobodyCam | fyi *ten* minutes | 17:50 |
| devananda | jroll: right. but folks are def interested in magnum-on-ironic | 17:50 |
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| lucasagomes | ++ | 17:51 |
| rloo | smoriya: ah, thx | 17:51 |
| smoriya | rloo: I posted the spec for cinder integration | 17:51 |
| thiagop | smoriya: link? | 17:51 |
| jroll | rloo: so I talked about in-band volume stuff with nova at their midcycle... they don't love the methods but are cool with the feature. just needs to happen | 17:51 |
| lucasagomes | there's cinder too, but I think we ironed out a good part of it last cycle | 17:51 |
| smoriya | thiagop: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200496/ | 17:51 |
| devananda | smoriya: awesome. I'd love to see that work happen during Mitaka | 17:51 |
| jroll | yeah, idk if we need a session with cinder | 17:51 |
| thiagop | smoriya: thanks | 17:51 |
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| smoriya | and I'd like you guys to review it. | 17:51 |
| jlvillal | I am interested in Kolla in general. Ironic integration sounds good too. | 17:52 |
| smoriya | mgoddard and I are discussing the target_info format in instance_info. | 17:52 |
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| smoriya | L119 in the spec. | 17:52 |
| smoriya | We'd like to know other guys opinions. | 17:52 |
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| smoriya | thiagop: np | 17:52 |
| devananda | jroll: wdyt about trying to land the cinder spec after the 4.2 release, but before the summit, so that folks can start on the code? | 17:52 |
| jroll | devananda: I would like to do that for every feature :) | 17:53 |
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| devananda | jroll: there's a lot of features :p | 17:53 |
| jroll | you get what I mean :P | 17:53 |
| devananda | yup | 17:53 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: oh thats a really good idea | 17:53 |
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| jroll | we should be doing lots of spec reviews after 4.2 | 17:53 |
| lucasagomes | smoriya, added to my list will take a look at it! | 17:53 |
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| jroll | which reminds me... | 17:53 |
| lucasagomes | thanks for the spec | 17:53 |
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| jroll | devananda: we should have a larger stable maint team | 17:53 |
| devananda | so yah, i agre with jroll -- if we can land that spec, then we probably don't need a joint session with cinder | 17:54 |
| jroll | devananda: more than just you, at least | 17:54 |
| devananda | jroll: yes! | 17:54 |
| smoriya | lucasagomes: Thanks! | 17:54 |
| NobodyCam | sounds like jroll just volentereed | 17:54 |
| devananda | jroll: does RS do anything with stablemaint? | 17:54 |
| devananda | my impression is "no" but I could be totally wrong on that | 17:54 |
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| NobodyCam | *five* minutes | 17:55 |
| jroll | devananda: not that I'm aware of, but who knows | 17:55 |
| rloo | what's RS? | 17:55 |
| jroll | rackspace | 17:55 |
| NobodyCam | rack space | 17:55 |
| jroll | (I presume0 | 17:55 |
| rloo | jroll: thx. (d'oh) | 17:55 |
| jroll | devananda: but my real need is to not be blocked on you to approve stable branch bugfixes :P | 17:55 |
| jroll | s/my/the/ | 17:55 |
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| devananda | jroll: i'm happy to share +A rights on that with you, as you've been doing a lot of the release things anyway | 17:56 |
| jroll | we should probably have at least 3-4 cores with stable branch permissions | 17:56 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, jroll ++ | 17:56 |
| devananda | historically, stable-maint was kept really small | 17:56 |
| NobodyCam | ++ | 17:56 |
| jroll | right | 17:56 |
| lucasagomes | adam is not around as well so, it would be good to have jroll as a core there too | 17:57 |
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| rloo | i'm happy with 2. if more than two, I'm fine with that too. | 17:57 |
| jroll | maybe I should chat with the stable team about this stuff... or doug or someone | 17:57 |
| jroll | whether we intend to keep it small or what | 17:57 |
| devananda | jroll: yah. there's some stuff to think about | 17:57 |
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| devananda | i agree it should be more than just me, tho | 17:57 |
| rloo | adam has basically bowed out so he doesn't count. | 17:57 |
| jroll | yep | 17:57 |
| devananda | rloo: right | 17:57 |
| NobodyCam | *two* minutes | 17:58 |
| * NobodyCam would vote for adding jroll | 17:58 | |
| dtantsur | ++ | 17:58 |
| jroll | yay, more work \o/ | 17:58 |
| lucasagomes | lol | 17:58 |
| rloo | jroll: look on the bright side, more POWER! | 17:59 |
| jroll | lol | 17:59 |
| jroll | begin the corruption | 17:59 |
| jroll | 30 second mark | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | jroll, also would be nice to have a formal release of IPA around Liberty... | 17:59 |
| jroll | dtantsur: is trown not working on that? | 17:59 |
| devananda | reminder - PTL and TC voting is coming up -- dont forget to go out and vote! | 17:59 |
| devananda | (next week and hte week after) | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | jroll, I think he does | 17:59 |
| jroll | dtantsur: I'm happy to push the release tags or whatever if it's set up to do so | 18:00 |
| * jroll back to channel | 18:00 | |
| jroll | thanks all! | 18:00 |
| NobodyCam | last comments | 18:00 |
| dtantsur | thanks | 18:00 |
| jlvillal | Speaking of broken gate.... | 18:00 |
| lucasagomes | cheers | 18:00 |
| NobodyCam | Thank you all | 18:00 |
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| jlvillal | I think we are broken again :( | 18:00 |
| NobodyCam | Great meeting | 18:00 |
| NobodyCam | uggh | 18:00 |
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| NobodyCam | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 14 18:00:29 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-09-14-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-09-14-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-09-14-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| betherly | thanks all | 18:00 |
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| flaper87 | #startmeeting Zaqar | 21:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 14 21:03:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 21:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' | 21:03 |
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| ryansb | hey folks | 21:04 |
| flaper87 | w00h000 | 21:04 |
| flaper87 | people | 21:04 |
| flaper87 | :D | 21:04 |
| njohnston | o/ | 21:04 |
| vkmc | o/ | 21:04 |
| flaper87 | #topic Agenda | 21:04 |
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| flaper87 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zaqar#Agenda | 21:04 |
| flaper87 | That's our agenda for today, short! | 21:04 |
| flaper87 | #topic Pending important reviews | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pending important reviews (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 21:04 | |
| flaper87 | To keep our traditions, lets review our pending reviews | 21:05 |
| flaper87 | (pun intended) | 21:05 |
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| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221068/ (approved but still hasn't merged) Gate | 21:05 |
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| ryansb | that's a just-wait-longer deal right? | 21:06 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/206080 Websocket notifications | 21:06 |
| ryansb | zuul says it's going | 21:06 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: yeah, it hopefully won't fail | 21:06 |
| flaper87 | but if it does, a recheck is appreciated | 21:06 |
| flaper87 | flwang: submitted a bunch of great bug fixes | 21:07 |
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| flaper87 | #link https://launchpad.net/zaqar/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 21:07 |
| flaper87 | Check that link and look at things that are In Progress | 21:07 |
| flaper87 | We want them in | 21:07 |
| flaper87 | (before Sept 18) | 21:07 |
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| flaper87 | That's all I have for this topic | 21:08 |
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| flaper87 | Any reviews that should be prioritized ? | 21:08 |
| flaper87 | all patches should be reviewed but if you've limited time, use the above as reference | 21:08 |
| ryansb | noted. 18 is the rc1 freeze, yes? | 21:08 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: correct | 21:09 |
| flaper87 | moving on | 21:09 |
| flaper87 | #topic Mitaka Summit preparations | 21:09 |
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| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Mitaka-Zaqar | 21:09 |
| flaper87 | still no topics proposed there and I can hardly believe you don't have any | 21:09 |
| flaper87 | :) | 21:09 |
| flaper87 | Please, take some time in the next couple of days to write down topics you'd like to discuss | 21:10 |
| flaper87 | It's important to do this with time | 21:10 |
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| flaper87 | if you haven't read my non-candidacy email, please do. It contains some of the things that I believe would be great to have | 21:11 |
| flaper87 | of course, those are just my thoughts | 21:11 |
| flaper87 | use yours and propose things | 21:11 |
| flaper87 | but take some time | 21:11 |
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| flaper87 | The next PTL will thank you :) | 21:11 |
| flaper87 | Any comments? Questions? | 21:11 |
| flaper87 | There will be some joint sessions this time as well (I hope) | 21:11 |
| flwang | o/ | 21:12 |
| flaper87 | flwang: heeeeeey :D | 21:12 |
| flwang | sorry for the late, i was called by my manager | 21:12 |
| flaper87 | flwang: we're almost at the end unless you have other topics | 21:12 |
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| ryansb | I'm not sure this needs a session, but it would be nice to talk about where we want to go with our CLI client | 21:13 |
| vkmc | ryansb++ | 21:13 |
| flaper87 | flwang: tell your manager that, if no other candidacy is sent, he won't be able to bother you on tuesday mornings anymore | 21:13 |
| ryansb | e.g. do we want to be an openstackclient plugin | 21:13 |
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| flaper87 | ryansb: as of now, we are an openstackclient plugin and I believe that's the way we want to go | 21:13 |
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| flwang | ryansb: + 1 for the client topic | 21:13 |
| ryansb | and what need do we hope the CLI to fill. Is it for scripts? | 21:13 |
| ryansb | is it for admins? | 21:14 |
| flaper87 | or at least, that was the way last time we talked about it | 21:14 |
| flwang | flaper87: that's the thing i want to talk with you as well | 21:14 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: it's for everyone | 21:14 |
| flaper87 | and it's incomplete | 21:14 |
| flaper87 | :D | 21:14 |
| ryansb | yeah, well what are the priorities, and what has to change to meet them | 21:14 |
| ryansb | flaper87: all software is incomplete | 21:14 |
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| flwang | flaper87: my question is if it's necessary to have a zaqar shell | 21:14 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: :D | 21:15 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: we were really good at asking implementors of server APIs to update the client | 21:15 |
| flaper87 | then things happened | 21:15 |
| flaper87 | IMHO, the client should become a priority in liberty | 21:15 |
| flaper87 | CLI and library both | 21:16 |
| flaper87 | flwang: not sure about a shell, tbh. | 21:16 |
| flaper87 | but that's just my thought | 21:16 |
| flaper87 | (assuming you intended shell as a python shell) | 21:16 |
| ryansb | ok, sounds like we have enough opinions for a session in that case | 21:16 |
| flwang | flaper87: yep, a python shell | 21:16 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: ++ | 21:17 |
| flaper87 | flwang: it's always nice to play with, not sure that's a priority | 21:17 |
| flaper87 | :D | 21:17 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: I think a 20mins session would be great | 21:17 |
| flaper87 | +1 | 21:17 |
| flwang | flaper87: but i reckon to put cli/client on our priority list in Mikata | 21:17 |
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| flwang | flaper87: as for the summit session, should i give a live demo for notifications? | 21:18 |
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| flaper87 | flwang: assuming time will allow me, I'd be happy to contribute to Zaqarclient during mitaka | 21:18 |
| flaper87 | sounds more reasonable time-wise | 21:18 |
| flwang | flaper87: based on the mail from dhellmann, you will be busy, man | 21:18 |
| flaper87 | if I'm not elected Glance PTL, I'll have time for more | 21:18 |
| flaper87 | ok, anything else on this topic? | 21:19 |
| flaper87 | I take that as a no | 21:19 |
| flaper87 | moving on | 21:19 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussions | 21:19 |
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| flaper87 | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074212.html | 21:20 |
| flaper87 | As you know, I'm not running for the PTL position next cycle | 21:20 |
| flaper87 | I'd like to thank you all for the trust, support and for allowing me to work with you on making Zaqar better | 21:20 |
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| flaper87 | We were really close to shut this show down but we came out well this cycle | 21:20 |
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| flaper87 | and I'm proud of the hard work | 21:21 |
| flwang | flaper87: you did a great job, and don't run away even if you're select for glance | 21:21 |
| vkmc | thanks for all your guidance this last couple of cycles flaper87 | 21:21 |
| ryansb | yeah, that's part of the PTL fine print. You're never allowed to totally leave ;) | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | There's a lot more to do and I tried to show some of the focus points in my email but I also highlighted the things we did great | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | because I believe, this cycle, the team deserves to party like crazy | 21:21 |
| vkmc | if you leave... remember we all know where you are based | 21:22 |
| flaper87 | now, lets keep our feet on the ground and good luck to the next PTL! | 21:22 |
| vkmc | just sayin' | 21:22 |
| flaper87 | oh, I'm not leaving | 21:22 |
| flaper87 | fuck no | 21:22 |
| vkmc | GOOD | 21:22 |
| flaper87 | you'll still have tu support me | 21:22 |
| flaper87 | and, since I'm not the PTL now, I can missbehave | 21:22 |
| flaper87 | MAUAHAHHAA | 21:22 |
| flwang | flaper87: remember, you owe me a lot of beer | 21:22 |
| flaper87 | and eat more gummybears | 21:22 |
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| flaper87 | flwang: I'll pay you w/ the beers other people owe me | 21:22 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:23 |
| flaper87 | I've people that now owe me full bottles of Whiskey, sake and well, beer | 21:23 |
| flaper87 | :D | 21:23 |
| flwang | flaper87: with vkmc's credit card | 21:23 |
| flwang | ? | 21:23 |
| flaper87 | flwang: oh yeah! | 21:23 |
| flaper87 | I still have the number | 21:23 |
| flaper87 | cvc | 21:24 |
| flaper87 | expiration date | 21:24 |
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| flaper87 | muahaha | 21:24 |
| flaper87 | ok, that's all I have! | 21:24 |
| flaper87 | anything else? | 21:24 |
| flwang | card owner's name :) | 21:24 |
| flwang | vkmc doesn't work, i just tried | 21:24 |
| flwang | thanks for sharing the card info | 21:24 |
| vkmc | hahaha | 21:24 |
| flaper87 | :D | 21:24 |
| flaper87 | ok, short meeting! | 21:25 |
| flaper87 | take care folks | 21:25 |
| vkmc | nothing else from me... I was digging on some apps idea for the websocket preso | 21:25 |
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| vkmc | take care flaper87, thanks o/ | 21:25 |
| vkmc | thanks all | 21:25 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 21:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 14 21:25:46 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:25 |
| ryansb | righto | 21:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2015/zaqar.2015-09-14-21.03.html | 21:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2015/zaqar.2015-09-14-21.03.txt | 21:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2015/zaqar.2015-09-14-21.03.log.html | 21:25 |
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