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| huats | sheeprine: I think it is over for this meeting... | 14:26 |
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| sheeprine | No points on the agenda actually, and not many people available. I'll write a complete agenda for next week meeting hoping that more people will be available. | 14:29 |
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| huats | ok sheeprine thanks for the clarification | 14:40 |
| huats | see you next week | 14:40 |
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| j^2 | #startmeeting openstack-chef | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 21 16:00:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is j^2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-chef)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_chef' | 16:00 |
| j^2 | hey everyone! | 16:00 |
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| j^2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zyjLyBp64 | 16:01 |
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| j^2 | No love? | 16:08 |
| markvan | howdy | 16:08 |
| j^2 | :D | 16:08 |
| j^2 | It looks like just you and me | 16:09 |
| markvan | Hey, I'm in the Grandpa club now...feels good. | 16:09 |
| j^2 | nice! Congrats! | 16:09 |
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| j^2 | So i guess i wanted to just have a couple things talked about | 16:10 |
| j^2 | First i wanted to thank/congratulate Jan on stepping up | 16:10 |
| j^2 | he's gonna be amazing | 16:10 |
| markvan | yup, that's great to hear | 16:11 |
| j^2 | on something you and i need to work on is our talk | 16:11 |
| j^2 | do you have some cycles this week to spend an hour on a zoom or something? | 16:11 |
| markvan | sure, Tue/Thru | 16:12 |
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| j^2 | I'm basiclly free all thrusday afternoo | 16:13 |
| markvan | works for me as well | 16:13 |
| j^2 | perfect | 16:13 |
| j^2 | So i think this next cycle i'm gonna try to get the designate and magnum cookbooks out the door | 16:13 |
| j^2 | Jan'll be heading up the simplicatation project | 16:14 |
| j^2 | i think that's a great amount work | 16:14 |
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| j^2 | and I don't want to push the cookbooks till we have a MVP | 16:14 |
| j^2 | kinda like the chef-repo | 16:14 |
| j^2 | thoughts? | 16:14 |
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| markvan | sounds like a plan. I will help where I can (reviews, ..), as I have other projects piling on right now | 16:17 |
| j^2 | yeah i get that | 16:17 |
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| j^2 | i'm going to start breaking our rules too, I'm going to +1 +2 if a patch sits for 24-48 hours and doesnt move and there isnt any major objections | 16:18 |
| j^2 | we need to continue moving forward and we can't get gated by other priorities | 16:18 |
| j^2 | But we're "best effort" right now which is great, we're still around but it just would be nice to get more activity ya know? | 16:19 |
| markvan | sure, I don't have a problem with that for simple patches | 16:19 |
| markvan | speaking of that, we have the final apt/ceph patches out there now, I added the missing compute one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225317/ and now also have the repo fixed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225569/ | 16:21 |
| j^2 | Yeah i'm cool with that second one too | 16:22 |
| j^2 | let the bots do the work for us | 16:22 |
| j^2 | Can you take the WIP off when you're ready to merge it? | 16:22 |
| markvan | yup, we probably need to backport the repo one to kilo. | 16:22 |
| j^2 | makes sense | 16:23 |
| markvan | was waiting for feedback from frickler | 16:23 |
| j^2 | have i told you about our setup in toyko? | 16:24 |
| markvan | have not seen details | 16:24 |
| j^2 | so we're not cool enough for a room or anything | 16:24 |
| j^2 | but i was able to get us a "table" and a sign | 16:24 |
| j^2 | so basiclly i can claim something for us in tokyo and we'll use it as our work space | 16:24 |
| j^2 | so a santioned version of what we did in YVR | 16:25 |
| markvan | ok, that will work... | 16:25 |
| j^2 | not great but meh' as long as we can spend time together pairing we'll get a win | 16:25 |
| j^2 | it's that simple | 16:25 |
| markvan | agreed | 16:25 |
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| j^2 | got anything else? | 16:26 |
| markvan | just that we should finialize comments on jklare spec to keep that moving along | 16:27 |
| j^2 | I'll put it on my TODO today and +2 it if i'm cool with ti | 16:27 |
| j^2 | nice | 16:28 |
| markvan | yup, I was going to take another look as well today, I think it has enough detail now....next is to break down the work items in the BP so we get an idea of how this will go in | 16:28 |
| j^2 | sounds reasonable | 16:28 |
| markvan | I think this will really haveto make use of the Depends-On support | 16:29 |
| j^2 | That seems like the correct path also | 16:30 |
| j^2 | awesome, i guess i'll call this meeting | 16:31 |
| j^2 | thanks markvan :D | 16:31 |
| markvan | k | 16:31 |
| j^2 | #endmeeting | 16:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 21 16:32:23 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-09-21-16.00.html | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-09-21-16.00.txt | 16:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-09-21-16.00.log.html | 16:32 |
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| jroll | . | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 17:01 |
| lucasagomes | hello | 17:01 |
| trown | o/ | 17:01 |
| cdearborn | o/ | 17:01 |
| rameshg87 | o/ | 17:01 |
| thiagop | o/ | 17:01 |
| betherly | o/ | 17:01 |
| jroll | do we have a devananda or a NobodyCam ? | 17:01 |
| JoshNang | o/ | 17:01 |
| xek | o/ | 17:01 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:01 |
| devananda | o/ | 17:01 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 17:01 |
| mjturek1 | o/ | 17:01 |
| devananda | wifi is bad here at cafe, I had to retether | 17:01 |
| devananda | #startmeeting ironic | 17:01 |
| thiagop | we do have a devananda | 17:01 |
| JayF | o/ | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 21 17:01:48 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:01 |
| lucasagomes | devananda,:-) | 17:02 |
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| rloo | o/ | 17:02 |
| betherly | NobodyCam is on holiday I believe | 17:02 |
| stendulker | o/ | 17:02 |
| cinerama | o/ | 17:02 |
| trown | looks like we have a devananda xor a NobodyCam | 17:02 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:02 |
| devananda | g'morning / afternoon / evening all - welcome to the ironic meeting :) | 17:02 |
| jroll | ohai | 17:02 |
| devananda | our agenda can be found on the wiki -- https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic -- but today it appears to be empty of any specific items | 17:02 |
| jroll | there's a big one in open discussion | 17:03 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: I have a few | 17:03 |
| devananda | #topic announcements | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:03 | |
| jroll | announcement: RIP JoshNang :( | 17:03 |
| lucasagomes | :-( | 17:03 |
| devananda | PTL voting is open -- please go vote | 17:03 |
| thiagop | jroll: ?? | 17:03 |
| jroll | re: josh, for anyone that hasn't read it, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/075055.html | 17:04 |
| trown | what happened to JoshNang | 17:04 |
| gabriel-bezerra | o/ | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | jroll, not the best kind of joke tbh | 17:04 |
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| rloo | Thank you and Good Luck JoshNang! We'll miss you!!! | 17:04 |
| JoshNang | trown: still here, totally fine, just leaving rackspace/openstack on thurs | 17:04 |
| jroll | dtantsur: sorry, I use rip for lots of things, I didn't mean to induce panic :( | 17:04 |
| lucasagomes | he's changing projects! g'luck on ur next work JoshNang | 17:04 |
| trown | ah got it. good luck! | 17:04 |
| devananda | jroll: not RIP .. just bon voyage JoshNang | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | devananda++ | 17:05 |
| jroll | ya. | 17:05 |
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| thiagop | JoshNang: Good luck on the new enterprise | 17:05 |
| vdrok_ | o/ | 17:05 |
| thiagop | "Don't panic" | 17:06 |
| devananda | any other announcements before we move on? | 17:06 |
| JoshNang | thanks y'all. i'll miss everyone :) | 17:06 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, not sure if it's important | 17:06 |
| jroll | devananda: releasing 4.2.0 this week, hopefully thursday | 17:06 |
| jroll | not the newest of news, but it's a thing | 17:06 |
| lucasagomes | but I will be on vacations from 27 Sept. until 5 Oct. so I will miss the next two meetings | 17:06 |
| devananda | jroll: right. release status. thus we're also in soft freeze right now | 17:07 |
| jroll | indeed | 17:07 |
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| devananda | again not an announcement, but a reminder, that goes along with what you said | 17:07 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: ah, thanks for the reminder on that. enjoy your time off! | 17:07 |
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| lucasagomes | ty | 17:08 |
| devananda | #topic subteam status reports | 17:08 |
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| thiagop | I can go on OneView | 17:08 |
| devananda | going down the list quickly, I hope :) | 17:08 |
| jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:08 |
| devananda | dtantsur: any release critical bugs that should be called out? | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | nothing spotted for now, but I'll recheck | 17:09 |
| thiagop | The oneview driver is code complete, waiting for reviews. Our CI is almost done, running tests for deploy and management interface. | 17:09 |
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| devananda | jroll: AIUI, neutron work has been postponed to M, so there's nothing to report there right now | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | I just started cleaning up "in progress" list | 17:09 |
| jroll | devananda: correct, not much new this week | 17:09 |
| devananda | dtantsur: cool, thanks! that's good to hear :) | 17:09 |
| devananda | dtantsur: was ironic-lib released in time for 4.2? | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | devananda, it was, but we didn't switch to it :( | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | also, dsvm gate patch is still under review | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212495/ | 17:10 |
| devananda | jlvillal: any release critical items on the nova<-.ironic front? | 17:10 |
| devananda | dtantsur: gah! :( | 17:10 |
| jroll | devananda: we didn't land code using it because g-r freeze etc, we didn't want to do things that late in the cycle | 17:10 |
| jroll | it == ironic-lib | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | devananda: I don't believe so. We looked last week and nothing release critical. | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | devananda, it's been up since Aug 24 :( | 17:11 |
| devananda | jroll: yea, I understand the reasons, just unfortunate that it's taking so long | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | devananda: Not sure if lucasagomes thinks his patch for version support is release critical for Nova | 17:11 |
| jroll | yar, indeed | 17:11 |
| lucasagomes | jlvillal, I don't think it's critical no | 17:11 |
| devananda | let's plan to make some noise about ironic-lib as soon as Mitaka opens | 17:11 |
| lucasagomes | it would be good to get it in, but if we don't it's ok | 17:11 |
| devananda | #info ironic-lib had a release, but we didn't switch to it beause of dep freeze. we should endeavor to switch as soon as Mitaka opens | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | +1 | 17:12 |
| jroll | devananda: +1, I hope people are working on it already so we can jfdi | 17:12 |
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| devananda | I don't see lintan ... anyone else want to update on Oslo things? | 17:12 |
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| devananda | also, anyone tracking our i18n status, eg. for StringFreeze? | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | devananda: I think all of the versionedobjects work has landed | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | devananda, a lot of clean up related to objects landed recently | 17:13 |
| jroll | I've seen o.vo patches flying around | 17:13 |
| lucasagomes | ++ for ironic-lib, anyone is already working on the IPA bits to partition the image with it? | 17:13 |
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| jroll | devananda: I'd like to get in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224079/ speaking of o.vo | 17:13 |
| devananda | #info a lot of oslo.versioned_objects code is in flight // has landed | 17:13 |
| lucasagomes | there's one implementing the indirection_api so we can do rolling release | 17:13 |
| jroll | I learned a lot from that patch | 17:13 |
| lucasagomes | rolling upgrade* | 17:13 |
| jroll | heh | 17:13 |
| devananda | oh nice | 17:13 |
| lucasagomes | yeah that would be good to get in | 17:13 |
| lucasagomes | (if possible) | 17:14 |
| devananda | jroll: heh. yea, well, nova and o.vo changed things, and what we had was 'good enough' for us ... so ... will be good to pull in all that | 17:14 |
| jroll | yep, indeed | 17:14 |
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| devananda | #info reviews needed on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224079/ related to oslo.versionedobject support | 17:14 |
| dtantsur | devananda, a suspicious bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1403887 . lucasagomes, are you still facing it? | 17:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1403887 in Ironic "No such file or directory error during deployment" [High,Triaged] | 17:15 |
| devananda | pshige_: anything in particular about docs to call out? | 17:15 |
| devananda | jlvillal: any updates on testing? | 17:15 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, oddly enough, no | 17:15 |
| dtantsur | hmm | 17:15 |
| devananda | jlvillal: also, do you think we'll be able to get the tempest patch for microversion API testing in? | 17:15 |
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| jlvillal | devananda: lekha has proposed a patch for adding functional testing to python-ironicclient using mimic. | 17:15 |
| lucasagomes | I don't remember the last time I hit this problem, I'm not sure if it's gone tho | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | But have to wait for code freeze to be over to get mimic added to global-requirements. | 17:16 |
| devananda | jlvillal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166386/ for reference | 17:16 |
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| devananda | jlvillal: ok, so that's M, at this point | 17:16 |
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| jlvillal | devananda: I will see if I can get some love for the patch. | 17:17 |
| devananda | jlvillal: thanks much | 17:17 |
| devananda | dtantsur: if we can't reproduce a ~9mo old bug, I'd probably close it | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | yep | 17:17 |
| * dtantsur closes | 17:17 | |
| devananda | dtantsur: updates on inspector (besides what's in the whiteboard?) | 17:17 |
| devananda | TheJulia: updates on bifrost (^^ ) ? | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | devananda, nothing to add to what is written | 17:18 |
| TheJulia | nothing at this time | 17:18 |
| devananda | betherly: any updates on webclient? AFAIK it's still not in anything like a releasable state, right? | 17:18 |
| devananda | dtantsur: awesome. thanks for keeping the wb up to date! << ditto, TheJulia | 17:18 |
| * jroll wonders what happened to "update the whiteboard, we'll use meeting time for questions" :P | 17:18 | |
| devananda | TheJulia: also, why is shade making changes that break its users? | 17:19 |
| devananda | jroll: yea, well, feel free to ask questions :) | 17:19 |
| rloo | do we release IPA? | 17:19 |
| jroll | rloo: not yet, red hat wants to | 17:19 |
| rloo | or is inspector* stuff the only non-ironic stuff that is being packaged? | 17:19 |
| jroll | for packaging purposes | 17:19 |
| rameshg87 | versioned release ? | 17:19 |
| jroll | yes | 17:19 |
| betherly | Web client wise have conversation re UX with horizon guys tomorrow | 17:19 |
| TheJulia | devananda: the change affects master branch and has to do with authentication support | 17:20 |
| betherly | Been back and forward a lot re whether we are using standalone client or new horizon panel | 17:20 |
| trown | jroll: ya releasing IPA would make things easier for me :) | 17:20 |
| jroll | trown: as I've said before, set it up and I'm happy to do it | 17:20 |
| trown | I think it just requires a tagged release in the repo now | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | trown, I think we'll do it with the remaining ironic | 17:21 |
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| betherly | Ultimately last week decided we would basically do both but the horizon panel is still under heavy debate with regard wanting to push for responsive and new code technologies vs staying with status quo | 17:21 |
| jroll | trown: it's set up for pypi and everything? | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | trown, I'd personally like one more patch to get in | 17:21 |
| jroll | dtantsur: we can release twice :) | 17:21 |
| trown | dtantsur: sounds good. no hurry from my end | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | :) | 17:22 |
| lucasagomes | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/ironic-python-agent seems to have something there | 17:22 |
| trown | jroll: it is setup on pypi though | 17:22 |
| jroll | oh neat | 17:22 |
| rloo | maybe an Action Item for someone wrt packaging IPA? | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | s/someone/trown/ :) | 17:23 |
| lucasagomes | releasing only, distros will package it themselves | 17:23 |
| devananda | betherly: that sounds like fun. LMK if I can help with that discussion this week | 17:23 |
| trown | fwiw, it is packaged in Fedora rawhide already :) | 17:23 |
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| trown | it is just a PITA to package stuff without an upstream release | 17:23 |
| betherly | Devananda: Hopefully will have something for invision that everyone is happy with this week (and by hopefully I mean we had better have...) | 17:23 |
| betherly | devananda: will let you know for sure thanks | 17:23 |
| lucasagomes | trown, ++ | 17:23 |
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| rloo | thx trown & jroll, for doing a release of IPA :) | 17:24 |
| thiagop | Guys, since the OneView driver and the python-oneviewclient lib are complete and the CI is "almost there", can we land this on the 4.2 release? | 17:24 |
| jroll | yep np | 17:24 |
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| thiagop | (and ladies) | 17:25 |
| devananda | #info jroll and trown working on packaging IPA releases | 17:25 |
| rloo | thiagop: I think your question relates to a discussion item | 17:25 |
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| rloo | thiagop: maybe we can revisit it after that discussion | 17:25 |
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| devananda | any other updates / questions on subteam status? | 17:25 |
| thiagop | rloo: right | 17:26 |
| devananda | also, I know we took longer than 10 minutes, but there were several points from that which I just added to the whiteboard which were, at least, useful info for me | 17:26 |
| rloo | devananda: so you'd like it explicit, for folks to put 'no updates'? | 17:27 |
| thiagop | +1 | 17:27 |
| devananda | rloo: it differentiates from "didn't update it" | 17:27 |
| wanyen | two of standalone agetn-ilo andiscsi-ilo drivers patches have landed byt conductor failer patch is still under review. Like to be able to land standlaomen ilo driver into 4.2 | 17:27 |
| devananda | which results in me wondering :) | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | ack | 17:27 |
| rloo | devananda: ok | 17:28 |
| devananda | wanyen: please make sure that status is reflected on the whiteboard, and add a link to the patch in question | 17:28 |
| wanyen | deva, ok. | 17:28 |
| devananda | rloo: and with the end-of-cycle coming up, nagging folks may be helpful | 17:28 |
| * jroll gets curious what "standalone ilo driver" means but wants to move on | 17:28 | |
| devananda | I think we just got about 10 updates that weren't on the whiteboard :) | 17:28 |
| devananda | jroll: making ilo driver work without swift | 17:29 |
| devananda | ie, work in a bifrost-style environment | 17:29 |
| jroll | ah | 17:29 |
| lucasagomes | ah nice | 17:29 |
| devananda | thanks, all. moving on now | 17:29 |
| devananda | #topic soft freeze // do we allow features in? | 17:29 |
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| devananda | rloo, rameshg87 - this one has your name on it | 17:30 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: yes, but question is open to everyone :) | 17:30 |
| rloo | cuz I don't want to allow features in now. I want to focus on bugs :) | 17:30 |
| devananda | rloo: ++ | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | I'd say: we might allow a feature if: 1. it's very close to landing, 2. it does not look breaking, 3. core team has cycles to land it | 17:30 |
| thiagop | critical features or all features? | 17:30 |
| devananda | we past the openstack feature freeze a few weeks ago -- https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 17:31 |
| rloo | people might say 'it depends on the feature' but I don't have the bandwidth to decide whether/which feature can go in. seems like folks should have brought up their feature to discuss before last Thurs. | 17:31 |
| jroll | dtantsur: that's my thuoght as well; OTOH we have ~72 hours and a few bugs left to fix | 17:31 |
| devananda | that said, we're not strictly following it, and I agree with dtantsur 's criteria | 17:31 |
| jroll | dtantsur: so I'm hesitant to say we'll land any features that don't already have +2s on them | 17:31 |
| rloo | at this point, we should be prioritizing bugs/features? If they aren't high, do we have bandwidth to land? | 17:32 |
| devananda | at this point, we should be focusing on known bugs and any really important features that are done being written | 17:32 |
| devananda | like o.vo | 17:32 |
| rloo | devananda: ++ | 17:33 |
| devananda | it's not a shiny feature for vendors to talk about, but it' simportant to th eproject | 17:33 |
| lucasagomes | right, we also merged the cisco driver today i would like to see if it's possible to merge the oneview one as well | 17:33 |
| lucasagomes | because it's been there for a long time | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | so, should we finish RAID+cleaning? | 17:33 |
| lucasagomes | and the last time I reviewed it was almost there | 17:33 |
| thiagop | I would really like for you to considerate the OneView driver | 17:33 |
| devananda | jroll: the whiteboard has a list you put together around L73 -- that looks like it could use updating | 17:34 |
| rloo | maybe we shouldn't have merged the cisco driver today but i guess that's too late to discuss | 17:34 |
| lucasagomes | yeah, it's already there | 17:34 |
| devananda | thiagop: it's really unlikely we'll have any time at this point -- AND landing a new driver this late in the cycle? honestly, not likely | 17:34 |
| devananda | unless cores have already been reviewing it | 17:34 |
| jroll | devananda: so I actually made a second source of truth... https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/4.2.0 | 17:35 |
| devananda | jroll: \o/ | 17:35 |
| thiagop | devananda: I'd argument that we're working on that for a long time and had some +2 before some people asking to move vendor code out of the driver | 17:35 |
| thiagop | devananda: just to ease reviews | 17:35 |
| jroll | right, I approved the cisco driver this morning because it had 2x+2 on it, with +A waiting for "release liasion approval" | 17:35 |
| jroll | not because I think we should be spending review time on drivers | 17:35 |
| jroll | thiagop: the problem is we have many things to review that are higher priority, and the release is thursday | 17:36 |
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| jroll | thiagop: we all want this driver in, however we're really limited on time | 17:36 |
| jroll | so, I'd like to be concrete about this situation and list the features folks are talking about here: | 17:37 |
| JayF | one thing worht noting: Missing L should be less of a big deal, as Ironic can have its own release shortly after L including any drivers or features that missed 4.2 | 17:37 |
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| jroll | * inband RAID config | 17:37 |
| jroll | * pxe_* inband cleaning via IPA | 17:37 |
| jroll | * oneview driver | 17:37 |
| jroll | should we land any/all/none of those, is the question here | 17:37 |
| jroll | (we probably shouldn't be landing other feature work) | 17:38 |
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| jroll | JayF: ++ | 17:38 |
| devananda | JayF: counterpoint -- many users consume ironic from distro packages, and, at least right now, most distros are packaging the openstack integrated release. | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | I'd see inband cleaning working now, as it compliments already present support for cleaning in agent drivers | 17:38 |
| devananda | JayF: I'd like distros to start packaging our releases directly -- but we can't ignore the current status | 17:38 |
| jroll | devananda: fwiw, debian packages our intermediate releases, maybe someone can convince red hat :) | 17:39 |
| lucasagomes | yeah that's not very likely, but I would like to see distros doing that too | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | devananda, we even package git master, but we don't ship it to customers :) that would be harder to change | 17:39 |
| devananda | jroll: "pxe inband cleaning" -- you mean over iscsi connection? | 17:39 |
| trown | RDO is packaging from git master | 17:39 |
| jroll | devananda: "via IPA" | 17:39 |
| jroll | devananda: pxe_* works with IPA | 17:39 |
| devananda | ah | 17:39 |
| devananda | yea, we should land that | 17:39 |
| jroll | right, so that's the next topic :) | 17:40 |
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| lucasagomes | I think there's a topic about it next | 17:40 |
| lucasagomes | yeah | 17:40 |
| rameshg871 | the bigger one | 17:40 |
| jroll | or the 'how' | 17:40 |
| rloo | what about the other two features (before we move on) | 17:40 |
| jroll | ^ | 17:40 |
| devananda | er, sorry, I misread. pls disregard my last sentence | 17:40 |
| lucasagomes | I will review the oneview driver tomorrow early | 17:40 |
| jroll | well | 17:41 |
| rloo | i wanted to get the inband raid config, only cuz most of it is in. | 17:41 |
| lucasagomes | last time I did it was almost there | 17:41 |
| jroll | I'm worried nobody is going to review our bugfixes if we allow all three of these :( | 17:41 |
| jroll | hopefully I'm wrong | 17:41 |
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| rloo | jroll: i think you might be right. | 17:41 |
| thiagop | lucasagomes: thank you! | 17:41 |
| rloo | i don't htink we should do the OneView driver. | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | jroll, rloo, my gertty shows most of the patches available having at least one -1 | 17:42 |
| rloo | do you have a link handy for that? | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | so we probably need more people coding, not more people reviewing... | 17:42 |
| jroll | dtantsur: ok, good, maybe we're doing fine | 17:42 |
| wanyen | update- all 3 patches of standalone ilo drivers (withotu Swift) landed earlier this morning. | 17:42 |
| jroll | yeah there's that :) | 17:42 |
| devananda | wanyen: good to hear :) | 17:43 |
| rloo | there's some sort of weird miscommunication if we're discussing getting features in after the deadline passed, and not having this discussion before the deadline :-( | 17:43 |
| wanyen | :) | 17:43 |
| gabriel-bezerra | rloo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191822 | 17:43 |
| devananda | rloo: I agree | 17:43 |
| jroll | rloo: yeah | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | rloo++ | 17:43 |
| devananda | what's the impact if these don't get completed? | 17:44 |
| devananda | as in -- is there partially completed code we need to disable? | 17:44 |
| rameshg871 | devananda: raid has all/most of the code merged. | 17:44 |
| rameshg871 | devananda: but it's not in effect before zapping didn't make it | 17:44 |
| jroll | RAID won't actually do anything without the in-band support (unless out-of-tree drivers have OOB support) | 17:44 |
| jroll | oh, right, and because zapping is missing :| | 17:44 |
| lucasagomes | oh | 17:45 |
| devananda | pxe_* inband cleaning should and the oneview driver should be zero-impact if not completed, right? | 17:45 |
| devananda | yea, it's RAID I was concerned about being incomplete | 17:45 |
| rloo | honestly, just looking at the OneView driver patch (number of files) and lack of reviews/+2s, I don't think we should even consider it for Thurs. | 17:45 |
| rameshg871 | so tonnes of code submitted becomes a no-op :( | 17:45 |
| devananda | rameshg871: urgh :( | 17:45 |
| jroll | devananda: yes, those should be no-impact | 17:45 |
| devananda | it sounds like that settles it. none of thse features get in now | 17:45 |
| JayF | rameshg871: can the code that's been added be used as a clean_step directly, even if zapping is disabled? | 17:45 |
| jroll | JayF: that's what "inband RAID support" means, there's still code to land | 17:46 |
| rameshg871 | JayF: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224938/ | 17:46 |
| JayF | okay; gotcah | 17:46 |
| jroll | devananda: I'm good with an exception for 224938 | 17:46 |
| * devananda looks | 17:46 | |
| gabriel-bezerra | rloo: it is in the same situation as the cisco driver. many files, but easy to review. | 17:47 |
| rloo | gabriel-bezerra: no, it isn't in the same situation. cisco driver had two +2s this morning. OneDriver has none. | 17:47 |
| devananda | rameshg871: this looks like it shouldn't be in the patch --https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224938/4/etc/ironic/ironic.conf.sample,cm | 17:47 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, that's the only patch missing? | 17:47 |
| rloo | gabriel-bezerra: and honestly, i would have said no to cisco driver if i was asked. | 17:47 |
| gabriel-bezerra | 3 days ago it didn't have that. | 17:47 |
| devananda | other than that, yea, it's small enough and important enough I'd agree with an exception | 17:47 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: apparently :) | 17:47 |
| lucasagomes | right yeah that looks fine, it's not big | 17:47 |
| rameshg871 | devananda: are you talking about changes to some other CONF options being shown ? | 17:48 |
| rloo | gabriel-bezerra: i can't speak for what happened in the past 3 days or what people choose to review. | 17:48 |
| rameshg871 | devananda: it's just got reordered while I generated it with the tool | 17:48 |
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| rloo | devananda: the reordering of the configs in the conf, seems to be an issue, but nothing specific to this particular patch. | 17:49 |
| devananda | ooh | 17:49 |
| gabriel-bezerra | rloo: the situation is still the same as in cisco, then. | 17:49 |
| rameshg871 | somewhere we should be sorting I guess :D | 17:49 |
| rameshg871 | before that tool generates the sample | 17:49 |
| rloo | devananda: i haven't had time to look into it, but i have noticed that the file changes depending on who generates it | 17:49 |
| lucasagomes | yeah depending on how old is the envrioment used to create it as well | 17:50 |
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| rameshg871 | ---- 10 minutes remaining ---- | 17:50 |
| jlvillal | 10 minutes remaining | 17:50 |
| lucasagomes | usually we should always have a fresh .tox when generating it | 17:50 |
| devananda | rloo: that's awesome :( | 17:50 |
| rameshg871 | can we decide on (if something)/what is getting in | 17:50 |
| rloo | so config aside. did we agree to make 224938 an exception? | 17:50 |
| * lucasagomes thinks we should move on and look at rameshg871 problem | 17:50 | |
| jroll | gabriel-bezerra: ok, here's my answer on oneview: "I'm not prioritizing reviewing it, in favor of other higher priority patches, and I would encourage other cores to do the same because we have lots to do" | 17:50 |
| rloo | devananda: yeah, one of the many awesome things... | 17:50 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, I'm good with that | 17:50 |
| jroll | rloo: +1 on 224938 | 17:51 |
| devananda | +1 on 224938 | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | ++ | 17:51 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: ramesh's problem isn't so urgent since we're saying it won't land this cycle, fwiw | 17:51 |
| lucasagomes | I will review it today after the meeting since we are on time pressure now | 17:51 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, fair enuff | 17:51 |
| devananda | majority of cores present just agreed on that exception | 17:51 |
| gabriel-bezerra | jroll: anything we can do to help you cores on that? | 17:51 |
| jroll | gabriel-bezerra: help fix bugs and review the things on https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/4.2.0 | 17:52 |
| wanyen | ++ on 224938 | 17:52 |
| rloo | I agree too, but I helped with it so didn't want to vote | 17:52 |
| devananda | #agreed feature freeze exception for 224938. other features will be held until Mitaka | 17:52 |
| jroll | gabriel-bezerra: also help update docs because why not | 17:52 |
| jroll | devananda: /me updates launchpad | 17:52 |
| devananda | jroll: thanks | 17:52 |
| rloo | jroll, devananda: the hi priority bugs are as noted in https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/4.2.0, right? | 17:52 |
| devananda | #topic cleaning in iscsi_deploy | 17:52 |
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| jroll | rloo: yes, those are what I've prioritized for 4.2, at least | 17:53 |
| gabriel-bezerra | jroll: OK. Is there a place where we can find more precise guidance on what needs to be done regarding the docs? | 17:53 |
| rameshg871 | devananda: we don't need to discuss that | 17:53 |
| devananda | rameshg871: sorry for being short on time on this -- but it sounds like we'e all agreed to bump it anyway | 17:53 |
| rameshg871 | devananda: yeah | 17:53 |
| devananda | :) | 17:53 |
| devananda | #topic open discussion | 17:53 |
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| lucasagomes | re docs for drivers, rameshg871 put a patch removing the ilo documentation from the tree | 17:53 |
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| jroll | gabriel-bezerra: idk, maybe docs bugs? just pointing them out as always a thing that could need love, but the other items are more pressing | 17:53 |
| lucasagomes | and pointing to the wiki | 17:53 |
| devananda | gabriel-bezerra: pshige_ has stepped up to coordinate doc efforts, and there was a ML thread about reorganizing our documentation recently | 17:54 |
| lucasagomes | I personally think the wiki is more flexible and easy to maintain, but does that impact on the release of the docs or something? | 17:54 |
| vdrok_ | I have some questions about tempest full job in nova experimental | 17:54 |
| lucasagomes | should we start asking other drivers to do the same? | 17:54 |
| * lucasagomes finds that review | 17:54 | |
| vdrok_ | api and scenario tests are now passing (locally at least) | 17:54 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: oh? that seems odd -- I'm fine with driver docs being in tree in a driver folder ... | 17:54 |
| vdrok_ | there is a problem with thirdparty tests - because of a bug in nova's ec2 api, ami image is considered whole-disk because ec2 api ignores kernel_id and ramdisk_id passed when creating an image | 17:54 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: -1 for docs on wiki :( | 17:54 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225602/ | 17:54 |
| vdrok_ | and there is ephemeral_gb set, so deployment fails because it can't deploy whole-disk image with ephemeral partition | 17:54 |
| devananda | -2 for docs in wiki as well | 17:54 |
| rloo | lucasagomes: I'm fine with vendor docs out of tree so I don't have to review | 17:55 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: if they're on the wiki nobody reviews them | 17:55 |
| lucasagomes | yeah I want to gather onions on that | 17:55 |
| rameshg871 | devananda: jroll: problem is keeping it updated with hardware related information | 17:55 |
| vdrok_ | but this api is deprecated since kilo, so should we enable stackforge/ec2-api in gate, or skip thirdparty tests? | 17:55 |
| lucasagomes | opinions* | 17:55 |
| devananda | docs are in gerrit. either in our tree or in the doc project somewhere | 17:55 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, yeah there are pos and cons | 17:55 |
| jroll | rameshg871: because people won't review it, or what? | 17:55 |
| rameshg871 | jroll: yeah they do | 17:55 |
| devananda | rameshg871: if the problem is how fast it is to land, or that a vendor needs to be able to self-approve changes for their driver | 17:55 |
| rameshg871 | jroll: but going everytime for something we can avoid seems odd | 17:55 |
| jroll | vdrok_: this sounds like a good question for mtreinish after the meeting, I tend to think skip ec2-api | 17:55 |
| devananda | rameshg871: we can set up a doc job in the ilo driver itself | 17:55 |
| rameshg871 | devananda: that sounds good. | 17:56 |
| devananda | rameshg871: and syndicate that from the ironic driver pages. | 17:56 |
| jroll | devananda: meh, I'd like docs to be reviewed :/ | 17:56 |
| vdrok_ | jroll: yup, also because even if it was passed correctly, irt would contain ec2 like ids, like ami-00000111 | 17:56 |
| rameshg871 | devananda: jroll: point of view is 1) we don't want to over-burden others to even review driver docs 2) wanted everything at one place | 17:56 |
| vdrok_ | so ironic couldn't use it | 17:56 |
| jroll | vdrok_: yeah, ec2-api support seems silly | 17:56 |
| vdrok_ | another question - what is a reasonable amount of time for that job? I think api+scenario tests will require ~4 hours on gate, it's a lot | 17:57 |
| devananda | jroll: I want our docs to be reviewed. but if a vendor needs to, say, document some wonky hardware thing for their specific out-of-tree driver library, I'm amenable to giving them self-approval control over that | 17:57 |
| rameshg871 | devananda: jroll: today we have some firmware related information in the wiki and actual features in ironic source tree | 17:57 |
| thiagop | I just wonder about doc changes on releases, if it's in a wiki | 17:57 |
| jroll | devananda: I guess yeah | 17:57 |
| rloo | thiagop: the ilo wiki has links for changes per release | 17:57 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, jroll apart from reviewing it, having the docs in the release is important? | 17:57 |
| rameshg871 | devananda: jroll: if that's possible, I would learn about that from you | 17:57 |
| devananda | rameshg871: as long as "how touse ironic with the ilo drivers" is in ironic's tree... | 17:58 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: I know nothing about docs w/ releases, I know we publish from master | 17:58 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: IMO, yes. releases are versioned. docs relevant to that release == important | 17:58 |
| rameshg871 | devananda: jroll: our team can then manage that ilo doc alone and can do approvals | 17:58 |
| lucasagomes | right | 17:58 |
| devananda | the doc team publishes and stores previous releases of docs. we don't -- but should | 17:58 |
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| jroll | vdrok_: 4 hours seems untenable, but I'd love to get it passing as an experimental job and then iterate from there... we talked about maybe using multi-node devstack to increase capacity and do more in parallel | 17:58 |
| devananda | vdrok_: yea, it is going to take a long time because of what that job is testing + how long it takes to start a vm-mocking-bare-metal | 17:59 |
| jlvillal | Regarding genconfig and ironic.conf.sample ordering. I created a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1498113 I didn't find another one with a quick search. | 17:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498113 in Ironic "Ironic genconfig does not appear to be idempotent across users." [Undecided,New] | 17:59 |
| devananda | vdrok_: there was no way to speed it up that I could find, aside from running less testes | 17:59 |
| devananda | jlvillal: thanks | 17:59 |
| jroll | devananda: multi-node devstack with 8 "bear metals" | 17:59 |
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| jroll | :D | 17:59 |
| devananda | rameshg871: take a look at how other projects are configured to build docs | 18:00 |
| jroll | (or probably more like 6 but ya know | 18:00 |
| jroll | ) | 18:00 |
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| devananda | jroll: sure. that means using a lot of resources from infra, too | 18:00 |
| rloo | thx jlvillal | 18:00 |
| devananda | anyhow, w're out of time! thanks everyone! | 18:00 |
| thiagop | and its it | 18:00 |
| jroll | thanks all | 18:00 |
| jlvillal | Thanks! | 18:00 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| betherly | Thanks all! | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 21 18:00:37 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-09-21-17.01.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-09-21-17.01.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-09-21-17.01.log.html | 18:00 |
| gabriel-bezerra | thanks | 18:00 |
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| thiagop | see you on the channel | 18:01 |
| thiagop | good meeting | 18:01 |
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