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| flwang1 | hi zaqar team | 15:00 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 15:00 |
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| flwang1 | flaper87: hey man | 15:01 |
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| flwang1 | #startmeeting Zaqar | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 5 15:02:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flwang1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' | 15:02 |
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| ryansb | hello folks | 15:02 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 15:02 |
| flwang1 | o/ | 15:02 |
| flwang1 | #topic roll call | 15:03 |
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| flwang1 | vkmc: ? | 15:03 |
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| vkmc | o/ | 15:03 |
| vkmc | HERE | 15:03 |
| flwang1 | #topic agenda | 15:03 |
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| flwang1 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zaqar#Agenda | 15:04 |
| flwang1 | Pending important reviews | 15:04 |
| flwang1 | Tokyo summit sessions | 15:04 |
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| flwang1 | those are the main topics today from me | 15:05 |
| vkmc | sweeeet | 15:05 |
| * flaper87 thinks we should give some love to client reviews | 15:05 | |
| * flaper87 has been bad with reviews lately | 15:05 | |
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| flwang1 | flaper87: i can't agree more | 15:05 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: i'm blaming myself as well | 15:05 |
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| flwang1 | i should put client review on my first priority | 15:06 |
| flaper87 | lets do it! | 15:06 |
| flwang1 | sure thing | 15:07 |
| flwang1 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206080/ websocket notification | 15:07 |
| flwang1 | i have tested it manually on my local | 15:07 |
| flwang1 | and it works great | 15:07 |
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| flwang1 | i'm going to +2 it after another round test since there is a new patch set to support given subscriber | 15:08 |
| flaper87 | ++ | 15:08 |
| flaper87 | I'll take a better look at the latest patchset | 15:08 |
| therve` | Hooray | 15:09 |
| flwang1 | therve`: hey | 15:09 |
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| flwang1 | we're talking about your notification websocket patch | 15:09 |
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| flwang1 | i saw there is a new patch set, seems it's adding the support for a given subscriber | 15:10 |
| therve | Yep, I snicked that in :) | 15:10 |
| flwang1 | therve: that's awesome | 15:11 |
| flwang1 | guys, any other important review we should discuss? | 15:12 |
| ryansb | yeah, there's https://review.openstack.org/230053 | 15:13 |
| jasondotstar | o/ | 15:13 |
| jasondotstar | sorry I'm tardy for the party | 15:13 |
| ryansb | which fixes a stacktrace in logging decorator | 15:13 |
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| ryansb | (not a large review at all | 15:13 |
| ryansb | ) | 15:13 |
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| vkmc | jasondotstar, do you have an update for the puppet modules you want us to review? | 15:14 |
| flwang1 | clicking... | 15:14 |
| flwang1 | vkmc: that's my question :) | 15:14 |
| vkmc | :D | 15:14 |
| jasondotstar | yes.... | 15:14 |
| jasondotstar | so the latest involves working on the adding the debian install side | 15:15 |
| flwang1 | ryansb: i have +2 for that one https://review.openstack.org/230053 vkmc, flaper87 pls bless it | 15:15 |
| vkmc | flwang1, sure, thankx | 15:15 |
| jasondotstar | so far, the RPM installation works fairly well using CentOS | 15:15 |
| jasondotstar | there are still a few more parameters to expose to the .conf file | 15:16 |
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| jasondotstar | and we need to begin writing tests as well | 15:16 |
| jasondotstar | but things are moving along at a decent clip, I'd say. | 15:16 |
| jasondotstar | questions for me? | 15:17 |
| flwang1 | jasondotstar: so generally, it's on track, right? :) | 15:17 |
| jasondotstar | flwang1: yes, in a nutshell. :-) | 15:17 |
| flwang1 | jasondotstar: are you using pooling as default in the conf? | 15:18 |
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| flwang1 | jasondotstar: i'm trying to figure out what's the reference conf for puppet deployment | 15:18 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: any comments? | 15:19 |
| jasondotstar | flwang1: no, not using pooling by default | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | mmh, I think we should just go with pooling by default | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | at some point, I'd love to see that config option go away | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | and just use pooling | 15:20 |
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| jasondotstar | unreliable is true by default (that's probably unrelated, still...) | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | That's what we recommend as a deployment and it should probably be the default | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | jasondotstar: erm, mmh. I thought flwang1 changed that | 15:20 |
| jasondotstar | flaper87: duly noted. I can add it | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | there was a patch for it | 15:21 |
| flaper87 | I mean, unreliable must be False now | 15:21 |
| jasondotstar | flaper87: oh ok.... | 15:21 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: yes | 15:21 |
| flaper87 | the deprecation path was respected | 15:21 |
| * jasondotstar will have to take a look at setting unreliable = false | 15:21 | |
| ryansb | that needs to be in the DEFAULT section, btw | 15:22 |
| flwang1 | my point is the default conf puppet is most like a referenced conf from the deployer's view | 15:22 |
| jasondotstar | it is in the default section, but it set to true and not false | 15:22 |
| flwang1 | jasondotstar: i will revisit that to make sure | 15:23 |
| jasondotstar | flwang1: ack. | 15:23 |
| flwang1 | #action flwang will check the unreliable conf to make sure False is the default value for puppet | 15:24 |
| flwang1 | jasondotstar: thanks for the updates, | 15:24 |
| jasondotstar | flwang1: np. | 15:25 |
| flwang1 | anything else? should we move to next topic summit session? | 15:25 |
| flwang1 | we only have 3 weeks | 15:25 |
| ryansb | I think that's it for reviews, so yeah onto summit | 15:25 |
| flwang1 | #topic summit sessions | 15:25 |
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| flwang1 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Mitaka-Zaqar | 15:26 |
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| flwang1 | we have 1 fishbowl and 3 workrooms | 15:27 |
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| flwang1 | we have 2 proposed sessions, both of them targeted for fishbowl | 15:27 |
| flaper87 | I think we should use 1 workroom session for Sahara | 15:27 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: what are those sessions? | 15:28 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: are u happy to host it? :) | 15:28 |
| * flaper87 can't find the link | 15:28 | |
| flaper87 | flwang1: sure thing | 15:28 |
| flaper87 | I'm planning to | 15:28 |
| vkmc | yeah, sahara and horizon if we are lucky | 15:28 |
| vkmc | :D | 15:28 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: client and horizon integration | 15:28 |
| flwang1 | Session: Client & Command Line Interface | 15:29 |
| flwang1 | Session: Realtime update for Horizon tables | 15:29 |
| flwang1 | i'm supporting vkmc on the horizon one | 15:29 |
| flaper87 | yeah, I'd go with horizon | 15:29 |
| flaper87 | it sounds like the client could use a workroom, TBH | 15:29 |
| flaper87 | We should make sure we have folks from Horizon in that session | 15:30 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: we have contacted them and got YES | 15:30 |
| flwang1 | vkmc: would you mind confirming with mrunge? | 15:30 |
| vkmc | flwang1, sure thing | 15:30 |
| mrunge | what? | 15:30 |
| mrunge | confirm what? | 15:31 |
| vkmc | mrunge, Zaqar + Horizon design session | 15:31 |
| vkmc | hi mrunge! | 15:31 |
| flwang1 | mrunge: hah, join the session about horizon zaqar integration | 15:31 |
| mrunge | hey o/ | 15:31 |
| mrunge | yes, I'm interested in that! | 15:31 |
| vkmc | mrunge, if Horizon team could discuss about this topic, we would really like to have a working session with you guys | 15:31 |
| vkmc | we are defining our slots | 15:32 |
| vkmc | :) | 15:32 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: should we make the horizon session as workroom as well? | 15:32 |
| flaper87 | that'd work, yes! | 15:32 |
| vkmc | workroom sounds good to me | 15:32 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: cool | 15:32 |
| flaper87 | fishbowl is great when we need to have a bigger crowd there | 15:32 |
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| mrunge | horizoners have a single fishbowl, as we found workrooms way more productive | 15:33 |
| flaper87 | mrunge: yeah, same does Zaqar | 15:33 |
| mrunge | for reference, I added zaquar and async to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-mitaka-summit | 15:34 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: so for now, we have 1 session for client, 1 for horizon, 1 for sahara, all of them are workrooms | 15:34 |
| mrunge | but did not request a real cross project session | 15:34 |
| mrunge | (they were intended for > 2 projects) | 15:34 |
| flwang1 | mrunge: thanks | 15:34 |
| mrunge | I have to thank *you* folks! | 15:35 |
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| vkmc | :D | 15:37 |
| flwang1 | vkmc and i are going to get some comments from your guys as for the horizon demo, but we can discuss that offline, in zaqar channel | 15:37 |
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| flwang1 | so do we have any topic for the fishbowl? | 15:37 |
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| flaper87 | mmh, not yet! | 15:38 |
| flaper87 | we could throw a gummy-party | 15:38 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: lol, that's an option :) | 15:38 |
| vkmc | can we have all working sessions? | 15:39 |
| flaper87 | if we don't have a topic for it, I'd rather just give it away than coming up with a random thing to talk about that could perfectly be discussed in a hallway-track | 15:39 |
| vkmc | I always find them more productive | 15:39 |
| flwang1 | works for me | 15:40 |
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| flwang1 | anything else for the summit session? | 15:41 |
| vkmc | let's add the sessions in the etherpad | 15:42 |
| vkmc | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Mitaka-Zaqar | 15:42 |
| flwang1 | vkmc: thanks for the remind, flaper87 will add the sahara session and i'm going to polish the format :) | 15:43 |
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| flwang1 | #action flaper87 will host the sahara session | 15:44 |
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| vkmc | flaper87, I'm adding dynarro for the Client/CLI, let her know | 15:44 |
| vkmc | :D | 15:44 |
| flwang1 | vkmc: awesome, thanks | 15:45 |
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| flwang1 | anything else? | 15:46 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: I will | 15:46 |
| flaper87 | hahaha | 15:46 |
| vkmc | flwang1, nothing else from my side | 15:46 |
| flwang1 | #topic open discussion | 15:47 |
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| * flaper87 hadn't had this much sushi before in his life | 15:47 | |
| vkmc | flaper87, is it better than sushi elsewhere? | 15:47 |
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| flwang1 | flaper87: r u kidding? | 15:47 |
| flaper87 | it actually is | 15:47 |
| flwang1 | sushi is always on my lunch list | 15:48 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: LOL | 15:48 |
| vkmc | yummy | 15:48 |
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| flwang1 | i would suggest a team lunch in summit | 15:48 |
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| flwang1 | given we have some new members | 15:48 |
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| flaper87 | that'd be great | 15:48 |
| flaper87 | nice nice nice nice nice! | 15:48 |
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| vkmc | now I want sushi | 15:49 |
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| vkmc | can we have a sushi lunch in the summit? | 15:49 |
| vkmc | :D | 15:49 |
| vkmc | haha | 15:49 |
| flwang1 | if the summit food is not OK, then we will go for sushi to make flaper87 happy | 15:49 |
| flaper87 | suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure | 15:49 |
| vkmc | yeaaaaaah | 15:49 |
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| flwang1 | and make vkmc happy either | 15:49 |
| flwang1 | should we still use wechat as the team communication tool? | 15:50 |
| flaper87 | it worked well last time, I think we can use it | 15:50 |
| flaper87 | and the group is still there | 15:50 |
| vkmc | yeaaah | 15:51 |
| flaper87 | gotta go folks, thanks for the meeting and talk to you soon! | 15:51 |
| * vkmc is excited | 15:51 | |
| vkmc | bye flaper87 | 15:51 |
| vkmc | take care, eat tons of sushi for me | 15:51 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: ttyl | 15:52 |
| flwang1 | ok, anything else? otherwise we will be back to zaqar channel :) | 15:52 |
| ryansb | not from me | 15:53 |
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| flwang1 | #endmeeting | 15:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:53 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 5 15:53:39 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2015/zaqar.2015-10-05-15.02.html | 15:53 |
| flwang1 | thank you, guys | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2015/zaqar.2015-10-05-15.02.txt | 15:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2015/zaqar.2015-10-05-15.02.log.html | 15:53 |
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| jklare | #startmeeting openstack-chef | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 5 16:00:41 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jklare. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-chef)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_chef' | 16:00 |
| jklare | hi everyone | 16:01 |
| j^2 | o7 | 16:01 |
| sc` | o/ | 16:01 |
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| j^2 | i’m going to have to drop early today, i have a meeting i have to get to | 16:02 |
| jklare | so, for today i guess the main topics are the integration testing and running liberty itself | 16:02 |
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| j^2 | or, should i say i’m going to me mobile, so thoughts/comments will be slow | 16:02 |
| j^2 | jklare: :D | 16:02 |
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| jklare | markvan you around? | 16:03 |
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| jklare | #topic integration-testing in all cookbooks | 16:03 |
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| jklare | mark pushed some patches out, and i think these two are the most important ones | 16:04 |
| jklare | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229992/9 | 16:04 |
| jklare | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230095/3 | 16:04 |
| j^2 | the first one looks good | 16:05 |
| j^2 | and the second one relies on the first correct? | 16:05 |
| jklare | the first one is basically adding a common task which can run our integration testing from the Rakefile and the second one tries to utilize this one via downloading the Rakefile from common and including it | 16:05 |
| jklare | for me these two look good and i think this is the right approach here | 16:06 |
| markvan | yup, that was the idea | 16:06 |
| sc` | makes sense. i'm +1 for this approach | 16:07 |
| jklare | do we have a blueprint or something for this one? so we do not loose track of which cookbooks are patched and which ones need to be | 16:07 |
| jklare | i think a short bp for 'adding integration testing to cookbooks' would be good here | 16:08 |
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| sc` | how about using openstack-chef-specs? | 16:10 |
| j^2 | sc`: i think it might be too heavy handed for specs | 16:10 |
| j^2 | the spec that is | 16:10 |
| sc` | hm. ok | 16:10 |
| jklare | also an option, but a bit more complicated, since it needs to be reviewed and merged first | 16:10 |
| markvan | yeah, once these to starters get in, I'll push up all the others, should be quick then | 16:10 |
| jklare | great | 16:11 |
| sc` | regardless, will be good to get this in | 16:11 |
| jklare | more comments for this topic? | 16:11 |
| markvan | and I also have the Heat add for the CI, that patch is also ready | 16:11 |
| jklare | oh cool | 16:12 |
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| jklare | we should add this one asap | 16:14 |
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| j^2 | nice | 16:14 |
| jklare | markvan you mean this one ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211322/ | 16:15 |
| markvan | yup | 16:15 |
| jklare | patch looks good, not sure about the commit message ;) | 16:16 |
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| jklare | maybe that one was a WIP one? | 16:16 |
| jklare | whatever, i think we can discuss that in the patch review itself :D | 16:16 |
| jklare | next topic then | 16:17 |
| jklare | #topic running liberty somehow somewhere | 16:17 |
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| jklare | any news here? | 16:17 |
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| j^2 | nothing on my side :( | 16:18 |
| sc` | centos packages are still stabilizing. i'm working through modifying common to expect the new set of repos for rdo | 16:18 |
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| sc` | unfortunately, it's nothing that is in the cookbook currently. kind of a moving target these days :( | 16:18 |
| jklare | since i was focussing on a completely other project last week, no updates from me, but i hope that i can give these ubuntu packages (staging) a try at the end of this week | 16:20 |
| j^2 | With the RC’s going on on ubuntu we should be confident the we can visit building ubuntu much sooner then later | 16:21 |
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| jklare | question is, when they will release a first "WORKING" version on trusty, since the fast and new packages will probably be pushed to wily first... | 16:22 |
| jklare | but we will see | 16:22 |
| j^2 | yeah, the wily conversation is something we need to have | 16:23 |
| j^2 | or do we punt for 16.04? :D | 16:23 |
| markvan | nobody around here is interested in wily, just 14 and 16 | 16:24 |
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| jklare | true, but 14 is basically too old (no systemd) and 16 is far away | 16:25 |
| jklare | but since we can not change that | 16:25 |
| jklare | we just have to hope that the packages for 14 will be good (and fast) enough | 16:25 |
| j^2 | i don’t think we should waste our cycles on wily at all, but we need to make sure there isn’t anyone out there that REALLY wants it | 16:25 |
| jklare | i really want it :D | 16:26 |
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| jklare | and in my company we will got for it | 16:26 |
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| jklare | but i think for the majority of companies out there, a lts release is the much better option | 16:27 |
| jklare | and probably the only one | 16:27 |
| j^2 | yep | 16:27 |
| jklare | so we should focus on 14 | 16:27 |
| sc` | agreed, even though i don't use ubuntu :p | 16:28 |
| jklare | :D | 16:28 |
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| jklare | ok then, last topic from my side | 16:28 |
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| jklare | #topic tokyo and all the amazing things that should happen there | 16:28 |
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| j^2 | lol | 16:28 |
| jklare | i thought maybe we start early with the planning here | 16:29 |
| jklare | ;) | 16:29 |
| j^2 | jklare the most important thing is Ramen of course | 16:29 |
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| jklare | sounds good | 16:29 |
| j^2 | so to say it officially, i’ll have a table for us | 16:29 |
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| j^2 | yes, not a room, a table | 16:29 |
| j^2 | but that’ll be where we can congregate and work face to face | 16:29 |
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| jklare | do we have any advertisement pushed out regarding that table | 16:30 |
| j^2 | i’ll have a sign yes | 16:30 |
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| jklare | online? | 16:30 |
| j^2 | but other than that that’s all i got approval for | 16:30 |
| markvan | looking forward to being there, but not the travel times... | 16:30 |
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| sc` | might be worth a ml post | 16:31 |
| j^2 | ah, nope, we should probably send something to the lists | 16:31 |
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| markvan | free fortune cookies at our table? | 16:31 |
| jklare | i was thinking about sending out something on the ml containing some special times and topics | 16:31 |
| jklare | fortune cookies with bug numbers in them and if you open one, you have to fix it | 16:32 |
| sc` | unless there's an according to hoyle miracle, i won't be in tokyo | 16:32 |
| markvan | jklare: tasty! | 16:32 |
| j^2 | ha! | 16:33 |
| j^2 | jklare: that ml is a great idea | 16:33 |
| jklare | and if you fix it in time, you get a kingkong :D | 16:33 |
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| j^2 | maybe put it on an etherpad so we can move the topics around and whatnot? | 16:33 |
| markvan | jklare: and being in tokyo, your extra kingkong skills will come in handy | 16:34 |
| markvan | will just have to keep youaway from tall buildings | 16:34 |
| jklare | i was thinking about a quick doodle to figure out at least one hour per day, where we all (or the majority of us) are at this table and discuss specific topics that might be interesting to some people | 16:34 |
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| markvan | jklare: yup, good idea | 16:35 |
| jklare | markvan only if i had more than 10 kingkongs before | 16:35 |
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| j^2 | yeah the etherpad is a better idea as i keep thinking about it | 16:36 |
| jklare | ok, i will push out a doodle and an etherpad | 16:36 |
| jklare | doodle for finding the best time and etherpad for the amazing ideas | 16:37 |
| j^2 | +1 | 16:37 |
| jklare | i will post them tomorrow in our channel | 16:37 |
| jklare | the links | 16:37 |
| jklare | ah, btw. do we try to stick with these 15:00 UTC syncups? not too much success last week | 16:38 |
| j^2 | yeah i like the theory but i just don’t have the bandwidth :( | 16:38 |
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| sc` | difficult to stick to that in practice, given that i'm west coast US | 16:40 |
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| jklare | ok then, i guess we will not stick with this one then and just have another discussion in tokyo about it (maybe its easier face to face to figure out the ideal way) | 16:43 |
| jklare | anything else to discuss | 16:44 |
| jklare | ? | 16:44 |
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| jklare | ok, thanks for attending and see you in the channel | 16:47 |
| jklare | #endmeeting | 16:47 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-10-05-16.00.html | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-10-05-16.00.txt | 16:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-10-05-16.00.log.html | 16:47 |
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| NobodyCam | \o/ | 16:59 |
| jroll | \o | 17:00 |
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| jroll | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 5 17:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jroll. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
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| vdrok_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| betherly | o/ | 17:00 |
| jroll | who's here for the ironic meeting? | 17:00 |
| devananda | o/ | 17:00 |
| xek | o/ | 17:00 |
| [1]cdearborn | o/ | 17:00 |
| gabriel | o/ | 17:00 |
| wanyen | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | good UGT morning all | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:00 |
| jroll | #chair devananda NobodyCam | 17:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda jroll | 17:00 |
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| TheJulia | o/ | 17:01 |
| liliars | o/ | 17:01 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 17:01 |
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| rloo | o/ | 17:01 |
| jroll | as always, the agenda can be found here: | 17:01 |
| jroll | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 17:01 |
| jroll | super light today | 17:01 |
| lucasagomes | o/ (here for few minutes only) | 17:01 |
| jroll | #topic announcements | 17:01 |
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| jroll | we'll be releasing ironic 4.2.1 this week, to pick up a bug fix that was backported to liberty, and some translations | 17:02 |
| jroll | #link https://review.openstack.org/230749 | 17:02 |
| trown | o/ | 17:02 |
| NobodyCam | nice :) | 17:02 |
| Nisha | o/ | 17:02 |
| jroll | we're also planning on the first ironic-python-agent release this week, at 1.0.0 \o/ | 17:02 |
| jroll | #link https://review.openstack.org/229986 | 17:02 |
| NobodyCam | awesome! | 17:02 |
| jroll | that will be the basis of a stable/liberty branch as well | 17:02 |
| devananda | fwiw, I just found a backwards incompatibility bug in Liberty agent and pxe deploy drivers. I'm going to try to get that fixed ASAP | 17:03 |
| jroll | I should info those I guess | 17:03 |
| NobodyCam | did we cut bifrost release last week??? | 17:03 |
| jroll | #info ironic 4.2.1 release this week | 17:03 |
| jroll | #info ironic-python-agent 1.0.0 release this week | 17:03 |
| TheJulia | NobodyCam: week before if memory serves | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | And ironic-lib last week? | 17:03 |
| NobodyCam | ahh :) | 17:03 |
| jroll | devananda: thank you for doing that | 17:03 |
| jroll | does anyone else have any announcements today? | 17:03 |
| xek | I added 3 bugs to address rolling upgrades issues in Mitaka | 17:04 |
| rloo | do you want to remind about summit session/topics | 17:04 |
| NobodyCam | summit like three weeks away | 17:04 |
| jroll | yes, thanks rloo | 17:04 |
| xek | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic?field.searchtext=rolling+upgrades | 17:04 |
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| lucasagomes | xek, nice one, thanks for that | 17:04 |
| jroll | #info please submit your design session proposals. deadline is october 9. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-ironic-design-summit-ideas | 17:05 |
| trown | woot woot on IPA release | 17:05 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-ironic-design-summit-ideas | 17:05 |
| jroll | thanks xek | 17:05 |
| jroll | anything else? | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | I've updated the driver composition spec | 17:06 |
| Nisha | jroll, do we need to add the specs which were submitted during Liberty but didnt went through to the etherpad? or they will be discussed even without adding them on the etherpad? | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188370/ | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | must be an interesting reading :D | 17:06 |
| jroll | Nisha: no need to re-approve specs, if that's your question? | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | Nisha, only if they really need *discussion*, not just getting code landed | 17:06 |
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| jlvillal | jroll: ironic-lib 0.2.0 release last week. If you want to info that. | 17:07 |
| Nisha | jroll, the spec didnt go thru | 17:07 |
| Nisha | in liberty | 17:07 |
| jroll | Nisha: let's come back to that in open discussion | 17:07 |
| Nisha | jroll, SURE | 17:07 |
| jroll | #info ironic-lib 0.2.0 released last week | 17:07 |
| lucasagomes | Nisha, jroll sent an email to the ML about it | 17:07 |
| jroll | much info, wow | 17:07 |
| jroll | let's move on | 17:07 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:07 |
| jroll | #topic subteam status updates | 17:08 |
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| Nisha | lucasagomes, ok | 17:08 |
| jroll | as usual, these can be found at | 17:08 |
| jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:08 |
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| jroll | I don't see any surprises here, does anyone else have questions/comments/concerns? | 17:09 |
| * jroll gives folks a couple minutes to read | 17:09 | |
| dtantsur | we need to finish syncing ironic-lib from ironic... finally.. | 17:09 |
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| jroll | yes | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | +1 | 17:10 |
| devananda | dtantsur: ++ | 17:10 |
| jroll | dtantsur: there's a few ironic-lib patches to fix some out-of-sync things there, we can release again once those land | 17:10 |
| rloo | dtantsur: wrt ironic-lib, i thought ramesh was going to push up a patch. does anyone know what patches are outstanding/need to be reviewed? | 17:10 |
| devananda | jroll: on the neutron work, what does the upstream / automated testing look like at this point? | 17:10 |
| jroll | rloo: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/ironic-lib+status:open,n,z | 17:11 |
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| jroll | devananda: I haven't seen anything yet | 17:11 |
| devananda | it would be helpful to tag all the ironic-lib related work, across all projects, with a consistent topic so we can see them all at once in gerrit | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | rloo, for now we review everything in ironic-lib. after that we can release - bump g-r - port ironic | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | devananda++ | 17:11 |
| rloo | jroll, dtantsur: i was thinking of the ironic patch to use ironic-lib. | 17:11 |
| devananda | jroll: are there instructions for how to reproduce tests locally? | 17:11 |
| devananda | jroll: like, for the network stuff, how do i validate it? | 17:12 |
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| jroll | devananda: I'm not sure, Sukhdev? ^^ | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | rloo: ramesh pointed me to: https://review.openstack.org/184443 | 17:12 |
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| rloo | i really hope the patches to ironic-lib are only for sync'ing between ironic & lib, not new stuff | 17:13 |
| NobodyCam | night lucasagomes | 17:13 |
| jlvillal | rloo: My patches are just syncing | 17:13 |
| devananda | jroll: also, what's the status of pyhton-ironicclient work to add the portgroup commands? | 17:13 |
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| jlvillal | rloo: Except the iteritems one... | 17:13 |
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| jroll | devananda: there's a patch, it mostly works | 17:14 |
| devananda | nice | 17:14 |
| gabriel | OneView driver updates: we would love to have some reviews in our patch :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191822/ | 17:14 |
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| jroll | ^^ we should get that in soon | 17:14 |
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| rloo | jlvillal: maybe defer that one until we get ironic using it? otherwise, adds one more 'thing' to check when looking at discrepancies between ironic & lib | 17:14 |
| Sukhdev | jroll devananda: most of the testing as of now is manual - once all is well cooked, next will be to write some automated tests | 17:15 |
| jlvillal | rloo: sure | 17:15 |
| rloo | thx jlvillal | 17:15 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: I'd love to have that in the gate before we land this, even if it's non-voting. we can come back to that... | 17:15 |
| devananda | jroll: Sukhdev: ++ | 17:16 |
| jroll | anything else on subteam updates? | 17:16 |
| devananda | it looks like client and nova patches use a different gerrit topic, so I added links to the 'pad | 17:16 |
| jroll | thanks | 17:16 |
| NobodyCam | ty devananda | 17:16 |
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| gabriel | We (oneview guy) have worked on ramesh's reviews. It is ready for new reviews. | 17:17 |
| jroll | actually, anything else can continue in open discussion | 17:17 |
| jroll | #topic open discussion | 17:17 |
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| jroll | Nisha: so, can you clarify your question? | 17:17 |
| jroll | (if it isn't answered already) | 17:18 |
| Nisha | jroll, as i said in channel...i was just asking if priorities gets decided based on summit discussions? | 17:18 |
| Nisha | jroll, so i think for seting up priorities for Mitaka cycle even the specs which are not at Mitaka etherpad would be considered | 17:19 |
| jroll | Nisha: I expect we'll spend some time going over mitaka priorities during the friday session, however the priorities list is always changing | 17:19 |
| jroll | we'll be reviewing all specs/blueprints for that | 17:19 |
| Nisha | jroll, thanks that answers my ques | 17:19 |
| jroll | Nisha: the etherpad is only for sessions about a topic, not a list of things to work on in mitaka :) | 17:20 |
| Nisha | jroll, :) | 17:20 |
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| devananda | and to repeat - previously approved but not completed specs do not need another round of approvals (unless they're special, in which case, we'll reach out to the author) | 17:20 |
| * jroll wonders out loud if we can finish the ironic-lib transition before the summit | 17:21 | |
| * jroll also thinks we should land the oneview driver before the summit | 17:21 | |
| * devananda thinks that both of those would be great | 17:21 | |
| wanyen | Jroll: For specs not yet got approved in Liberty, do they needs to be re-submitted for Mitaka? | 17:21 |
| jlvillal | jroll: I think ironic-lib transition is possible | 17:21 |
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| * thiagop would be very happy with that | 17:21 | |
| jroll | wanyen: no, I sent an email about that last week | 17:21 |
| wanyen | jroll, oh. tx | 17:21 |
| jroll | please follow the mailing list, that's where the important things go | 17:22 |
| devananda | jroll: for completed specs, we had a little discussion around my patch last week | 17:22 |
| gabriel | thank you a lot, jroll :) | 17:22 |
| jroll | devananda: ya? | 17:22 |
| devananda | tldr; should the spec for completed work get moved to the folder for the cycle it was implemented with or without a placeholder in the /approved/ folder ? | 17:22 |
| jroll | oh, that | 17:23 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:23 |
| jroll | so one of the main reasons I like the placeholder, is that I set blueprint links to the approved URL | 17:23 |
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| devananda | jroll: I agree with the usefulness of that launchpad link within the context of launchpad | 17:24 |
| jroll | it's certainly possible to fix that after the spec move, but is yet another thing to do | 17:24 |
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| devananda | jroll: but then, the /approved/ folder grows indefinitely and ceases to represent the current work backlog | 17:24 |
| jroll | devananda: keep in mind our release emails/notes have launchpad links | 17:24 |
| rloo | personally, i think the specs shouldn't get moved at all. seems odd to be changing the URL as to where the spec is accessed. we 'just' need a way of classifying/showing them as <cycle>implemented on the table of contents or whatever. | 17:24 |
| thiagop | The approved folder would become very large with all the specs on it, right? | 17:24 |
| jroll | yeah :( | 17:25 |
| devananda | I also don't like changing the links. but I do like having a single place to look for "what is the ongoing work" | 17:25 |
| jroll | that's a good point | 17:25 |
| jroll | devananda: I'd probably argue that launchpad should be the source of truth for that | 17:25 |
| gabriel | we can place symbolic links on an implemented or implementing directory to the approved spec | 17:25 |
| devananda | rloo: the TOC is built from folders, not manually edited | 17:26 |
| * jroll wonders if that works with the publishing job | 17:26 | |
| jlvillal | I could see everything goes in one folder, and that could be the link that does not change. But then use symbolic links to arrange things. | 17:26 |
| devananda | rloo: so if we stopped moving them into /XX-implemented/ then the TOC would not get updated | 17:26 |
| devananda | jroll: I think you know how I feel about LP .... | 17:26 |
| rloo | devananda: i wonder if there is some other way to build the toc, or can we use symbolic links as gabriel suggested | 17:26 |
| jroll | devananda: it doesn't matter how we feel about LP; it's what we use. | 17:27 |
| rloo | it seems like we have a 'db' of files, and they each have states associated with them, and we want to display them in various ways... | 17:27 |
| jroll | devananda: I don't see any sense in having a different source of truth for ongoing work vs bugs, release tracking, etc | 17:27 |
| devananda | fwiw, a few of you may want to talk with / look at Nova's process for this, and what several other projects are doing | 17:28 |
| devananda | it generally requires deleting or marking "not-implemented" lots of things and making folks go through yet another round of reviews at the start of the next cycle | 17:28 |
| jroll | indeed | 17:28 |
| devananda | not doing ^ is a benefit of our current approach | 17:28 |
| thiagop | devananda: +1(000) | 17:28 |
| devananda | perhaps this would be a good summit topic? :) | 17:28 |
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| jroll | ++ | 17:29 |
| rloo | ewwww, not sure i want to spend one of our topics on this. | 17:29 |
| jroll | because I also wanted to talk about how we track work in general | 17:29 |
| jroll | e.g. requiring a blueprint for any feature work | 17:29 |
| rloo | can't someone propose/email on that stuff? | 17:29 |
| jroll | everything is super unorganized right now | 17:29 |
| devananda | rloo: I've spent several hours on this with other projects // in the cross project track, in previous summits. you should come join the fun ;) | 17:29 |
| devananda | jroll: ++ | 17:30 |
| rloo | devananda: clearly, our idea of fun is different :) | 17:30 |
| jroll | rloo: I think this would be a broader "let's get organized" track. which could be useful. think about all the times you've wondered what you should be reviewing | 17:30 |
| rloo | devananda: i think if it does make sense, for projects to be consistent with how specs/etc are handled. | 17:30 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: ++ sounds like a good track to me | 17:30 |
| rloo | jroll: just tell me what i should be reviewing. | 17:30 |
| jroll | rloo: I don't know because everything is a mess :(((( | 17:31 |
| rloo | jroll: guess for me, i'd prefer technical discussions at the summit. | 17:31 |
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| devananda | jroll: added to the bottom of the pad with your name on it ;) | 17:31 |
| jroll | rloo: I tend to think team dynamics and getting everyone on the same page is just as important as the tech | 17:31 |
| jroll | devananda: heh thanks | 17:32 |
| rloo | jroll: oh it is important, but we're a community that isn't all present at the summit. | 17:32 |
| rloo | jroll: and such processes involve everyone contributing. | 17:32 |
| jroll | rloo: indeed, but we can get general consensus and propose that back after the summit | 17:32 |
| jroll | the non-technical pieces are just as difficult to talk about in IRC, IMO | 17:33 |
| rloo | jroll: I'm just voicing my opinion. if others feel like we should discuss, then i am outvoted. | 17:33 |
| jroll | rloo: yeah, well, the session is now proposed, we can decide next week whether to include it | 17:33 |
| jroll | fwiw, we have ~12 proposals and 8 slots | 17:34 |
| jroll | (so far) | 17:34 |
| thiagop | wow | 17:34 |
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| thiagop | jroll: is that a pad or something with the proposals? | 17:35 |
| jroll | thiagop: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-ironic-design-summit-ideas | 17:35 |
| * rloo wonders if people read the emails or understand what they are about | 17:36 | |
| jroll | heh | 17:36 |
| devananda | jroll: 14 by my count | 17:36 |
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| rloo | seriously, maybe there is a communication issue | 17:36 |
| thiagop | rloo: not always for me... | 17:37 |
| jroll | devananda: 7 and 8 are the same IMO | 17:37 |
| jroll | anyway, I must have miscounted earlier this morning :P | 17:37 |
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| jlvillal | Random question: Is there a reason we don't use the requests library in python-ironicclient? | 17:38 |
| rloo | well, we don't really need to count them, but who has numbered them already? | 17:38 |
| jroll | I believe deva just numbered them | 17:38 |
| jroll | jlvillal: don't we use something from oslo? | 17:38 |
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| jlvillal | oslo.utils? | 17:38 |
| rloo | :) | 17:38 |
| jroll | jlvillal: yeah, and it uses requests https://github.com/openstack/python-ironicclient/blob/master/ironicclient/openstack/common/apiclient/client.py#L39 | 17:39 |
| jlvillal | jroll: Thanks. Looking at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229286/ Which is trying to use proxy support. And requests supports proxies directly.... | 17:39 |
| * jlvillal has taken a detoru... | 17:40 | |
| jroll | jlvillal: idk | 17:40 |
| jlvillal | s/detoru/detour/ | 17:40 |
| jroll | anything else folks want to talk about? | 17:40 |
| NobodyCam | i'm good taday | 17:41 |
| NobodyCam | today even :p | 17:41 |
| rloo | i was thinking about Nisha's questions. would be good to try to articulate how things get prioritized. (not exactly now but) | 17:41 |
| jroll | rloo: and that goes back to: I'm not sure we even know how we prioritize things :| | 17:42 |
| rloo | jroll: i thought you and deva did it over drinks :) | 17:42 |
| Nisha | rloo :D | 17:42 |
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| jroll | rloo: unfortunately, no, we get way off topic when that happens | 17:42 |
| rloo | for me, 'infrastructure' is first. | 17:42 |
| jroll | :P | 17:42 |
| rloo | jroll: :D | 17:43 |
| jroll | alright, should we wrap this up? | 17:43 |
| jroll | going once... | 17:43 |
| jlvillal | Works for me :) | 17:43 |
| jroll | thanks everyone :) | 17:43 |
| jroll | #endmeeting | 17:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 5 17:43:42 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-10-05-17.00.html | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-10-05-17.00.txt | 17:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-10-05-17.00.log.html | 17:43 |
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| gabriel | thank you | 17:44 |
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