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elmikohi all14:00
SergeyLukjanovhey sahara folks!14:00
NikitaKonovalovo/14:00
SergeyLukjanov#startmeeting sahara14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct 22 14:00:36 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'sahara'14:00
SergeyLukjanov#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda14:00
SergeyLukjanovlet's wait for a few minutes for more attendies14:01
elmikocool14:01
vgridnevhi14:01
toskyhi14:01
sreshetnyako/14:01
elmikoNikitaKonovalov: not sure if you saw my email reply, i've added the mirantis logo to the deck, working on the disclaimer now14:01
NikitaKonovalovelmiko: not yet, but I'll have a look14:01
JaxonWanghi14:02
weitinghi14:02
crobertsrhHi all14:02
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SergeyLukjanov#topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, vgridnev)14:04
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SergeyLukjanov#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon14:04
crobertsrhNo updates from me beyond last week.  I've been busy with summit prep.14:04
vgridnevone more fix for horizon uploaded, not so critical14:05
crobertsrhWe really do need to be better at reviewing our own UI changes though.14:05
crobertsrhEspecially when we have our own repo again.14:06
vgridnevagreed, it would be nice to have all stuff merged before moving14:06
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vgridnevlet's move to next topic?14:07
crobertsrh+114:08
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SergeyLukjanov#topic News / updates14:08
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elmikono big news for me, mainly working on presentation for summit14:09
vgridnevseveral bug fixes, doing some ambari stuff.14:09
AndreyPavlovmost part of CLI patches was merged, only 2 patches and a minor fixes should be made14:09
crobertsrhEven if you're not going to be at summit, please add your ideas to the etherpads.14:10
elmikocrobertsrh: +114:10
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crobertsrhWe promise to not laugh at your ideas while you're not there.14:10
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SergeyLukjanovcrobertsrh , that's a good point14:10
NikitaKonovalovstill in internal activities, some of them may result in performance testing results, that I'd share later14:11
SergeyLukjanovwe need feedback from all in the etherpads14:11
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elmikoi put some initial discussion topics on the security one14:11
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SergeyLukjanov#topic Open discussion14:13
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SergeyLukjanovme and Nikita will arrive to Tokyo on the Monday evening14:13
elmikocool, Chad and i will be there over the weekend =)14:13
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elmikoand i think Ethan is already there14:14
crobertsrhYes, if you find me wandering Tokyo aimlessly, please point me in the right direction.14:14
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elmikoMatt too, iirc14:14
crobertsrhYep, matt should also be there already14:14
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toskyI'm "there" already14:15
elmikonot sure when Trevor gets in14:15
elmikohow's the weather tosky ?14:15
tosky(actually in Kyoto, but I will move back in Tokyo on Saturday)14:15
SergeyLukjanovis there a chance to find good beer in Tokey?14:15
SergeyLukjanovTokyo*14:15
toskysorry, I don't drink beer :)14:15
toskyright now it's late spring/early summer temperature14:16
elmikoi think there's a good chance ;)14:16
SergeyLukjanovwhisky?14:16
elmikoooh nice tosky14:16
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: definitely some good whiskey14:16
toskyunusual for this time, I heard14:16
crobertsrhI have several whiskeys that I'm planning on finding14:16
SergeyLukjanov:)14:16
toskyand I heard that it should rain in the weekend and then be more in-line with this time of the year14:16
elmikoahh, too bad...14:16
toskybut not so cold as what I left in Czech Republic anyway14:16
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SergeyLukjanovanything else to discuss today?14:20
elmikonothing from me14:20
crobertsrhNothing from me.14:21
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crobertsrhSee some of you next week14:21
elmiko+114:22
SergeyLukjanovokay, thx folks!14:22
SergeyLukjanov#endmeeting14:22
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elmikothanks SergeyLukjanov14:23
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carl_baldwin#startmeeting neutron_l315:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct 22 15:00:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
obondarevhi15:00
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carl_baldwin#chair mlavalle15:01
openstackCurrent chairs: carl_baldwin mlavalle15:01
* carl_baldwin trying to implement HA for the L3 meeting.15:01
carl_baldwin#topic Announcements15:01
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carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam15:01
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Swamihi15:02
carl_baldwinIf you don’t know that summit is next week then you must be new.  To that, I say “welcome to the L3 team meeting!”15:02
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carl_baldwinGiven that summit is next week and we will all be engaged in exciting, productive and fulfulling conversation, we will not hold this IRC meeting next week.15:03
fitoduartehi15:03
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mlavalledo we resume the week after summit?15:03
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: good question, we will resume the week after summit.  So, two weeks from now.15:04
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john-davidgehi all15:04
carl_baldwinAny other announcements?15:04
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* carl_baldwin hands out tardy slips. Especially to regXboi who was trying to be sneaky in the back of the room.15:05
* regXboi takes the slip and puts it in the "firestarter" pile :)15:05
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carl_baldwin#topic Bugs15:05
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mlavalleregXboi: lol15:05
mlavalleok, trying to do this quickly15:05
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carl_baldwinI figured we’d go through bugs today and then go straight to an on-demand agenda.15:06
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carl_baldwinIf we’re lucky, we can have some time back to prepare for summit travel.15:06
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regXboioh boy15:06
regXboiwho did we lose?15:07
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regXboiso the ones I care about are the ones that aren't in progress *yet*15:07
mlavallefirst up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/136547315:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1365473 in neutron "Unable to create a router that's both HA and distributed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Adolfo Duarte (adolfo-duarte)15:07
mlavallefix is progressing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143169/15:08
jschwarzThat patch is mostly waiting for reviews :)15:08
* carl_baldwin still here.15:08
mlavallelast revision was on 10/2015:08
regXboiyes, can we get some review love on that patch?15:08
mlavalleand yes, waiting for reviews15:08
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fitoduarteyes. it keeps going into merge conflict15:08
regXboicarl_baldwin: can we get a couple of cores to look at that patch?15:09
carl_baldwinjschwarz: I started a review.  Will finish today.15:09
jschwarzcarl_baldwin, excellent, thanks a lot :)15:09
jschwarzI'm sure fitoduarte will like it as well15:09
carl_baldwinhaleyb is travelling but he may see an email when he arrives.15:10
fitoduartetx15:10
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carl_baldwinfitoduarte: Did you change nicks or am I imagining it?15:10
fitoduarteyes. forgot to log off my laptop15:11
mlavalleok next one up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/149435115:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1494351 in neutron "Observed StaleDataError in gate-neutron-dsvm-api tests if reference IPAM driver is used" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117)15:11
pavel_bondartwo patches are ready for review15:11
mlavallethere are are two patchsets awating reviews. here's the gerrit topic https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bug/1494351,n,z15:11
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pavel_bondar#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237677/15:11
pavel_bondarand #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22312315:12
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pavel_bondarjenkins passed, so hope to get some feedback on them15:12
mlavallepavel_bondar: they are just needing review, right?15:12
pavel_bondarmlavalle: right15:13
mlavalleany other comments?15:13
pavel_bondarno15:13
mlavalleok, moving on15:13
mlavallehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/148679515:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1486795 in neutron "DVR: create or update port by using notify specific host rather than fanout" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev)15:13
mlavallethere is some confusion as to the correct fix for this one. obondarev do you care to comment?15:14
obondarevyep15:14
carl_baldwinpavel_bondar: I’ll look.15:14
obondarevseems authors of alternative patches are oke with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231555/15:14
pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: thanks15:14
obondarevso I updated it today15:14
mlavalleobondarev: yeah, they seem to be ok with this fix15:15
carl_baldwinobondarev: great, thanks for syncing that up.15:15
regXboihave the other patches been abandoned?15:15
obondarevnot yet15:15
mlavalleobondarev: I even asked them to abandon their patchsets yesterday, to avoid confusion15:15
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obondarevmlavalle: saw that, thanks15:15
regXboiok, can we get that done asap and update LP?15:15
carl_baldwinI can abandon them today with a note that we discussed in this meeting.15:15
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regXboicarl_baldwin: ack and thx15:16
regXboiI'll cover LP if the abandonments don't automagically show up15:16
mlavalleanything else on this one?15:17
regXboireviews on 231555 :)15:17
mlavalleok, next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/148682815:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1486828 in neutron "DVR: Notify specific agent when dealing with floating ips" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev)15:17
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obondarevok, for this one15:18
obondarevone of partial fixes broke Ironic gate jobs15:18
obondarevand was reverted15:18
mlavalleobondarev has a proposed fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231455/15:18
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mlavallerevereted one is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21513615:19
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obondarevthen I uploaded revert of revert which is not breaking Ironic15:19
obondarevand that was merged as well15:19
obondarevso the final fix is  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231455, needs reviews15:19
regXboiobondarev: have you addressed the -1's on it ?15:20
carl_baldwinobondarev: I’m a little confused.  What about this one:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237476/15:20
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mlavalleobondarev: so, 231455 is the final one?15:20
obondarevcarl_baldwin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237476/ is kind of revert of revert15:20
regXboicarl_baldwin: that was the revert of the revert to avoid breaking ironic15:20
obondarevregXboi: I've replied to the comments, yes15:20
regXboiobondarev: ack - thx15:20
carl_baldwinI guess I’m going patch blind (like snow blind) from seeing a lot of patches to notify specific agents.15:21
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mlavallelol15:21
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obondarev:-)15:21
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obondarevcarl_baldwin: yeah, we need to reduce the notification flood at scale15:22
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mlavalleobondarev: thanks for taking care of this15:22
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mlavalleanything else on this one?15:22
carl_baldwinI’ll review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231455/15:22
obondarevmlavalle: carl_baldwin: thanks15:23
mlavalleok, next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/147609715:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1476097 in neutron "[fwaas]Support fwaas to control east-west traffic in dvr router" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to lee jian (leejian0612)15:23
mlavallelast status, Swami was defining a solution. any updates?15:23
SwamiThis is still under discussion with the Fwaas team.15:24
Swamimlavalle: not yet, will probably update the doc after the summit.15:24
mlavalleok, thanks!15:24
regXboiwait15:24
mlavallenext up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/150557515:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1505575 in neutron "Fatal memory consumption by neutron-server with DVR at scale" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev)15:24
regXboimlavelle: hold on15:24
mlavalleand our hero of the morning appears again, obondarev15:24
regXboiI want a little more clarification on that last one15:25
mlavalleok15:25
mlavalleholding15:25
regXboiSwami: is the plan to do a spec along with or before the code?15:25
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regXboibecause I'd sort of like to see the devref/spec to see the how before I see the code15:26
SwamiregXboi: right now it is not possible to propose a solution for this problem without a change in DVR functionality. So I would prefer that we propose a spec before modifying any DVR code in this respect if possible.15:26
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regXboigood - that's where I am as well15:26
regXboithx15:26
regXboithx for the hold mlavalle ... back to you15:26
mlavalleok, going back to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505575, obondarev has the following proposed fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234067/15:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1505575 in neutron "Fatal memory consumption by neutron-server with DVR at scale" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev)15:26
obondarevthis one has a patch on review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234067/15:27
mlavallethe fix is active and getting reviews15:27
obondarevbut there are some concerns regarding the approach15:27
obondarevthe discussion is in PS115:27
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regXboican we go with a configuration option for now and get clever later?15:27
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regXboiI don't want to hold this patch up for bikeshedding15:27
obondarevthe concern might be if we introduce config option now it will be harder to remove it later15:28
* carl_baldwin looks at patch15:28
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obondarevso this might need more thinking to try it without config option15:29
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regXboiI'm thinking that even if we had some magic automated system for determining batch size, I (as an operator) may still want the knob to override it15:30
carl_baldwinobondarev: I don’t have any good feedback for you right now but I will take time tody.15:31
carl_baldwin*today15:31
obondarevcarl_baldwin: thanks15:31
obondarevregXboi: please comment in the review ;)15:32
regXboiobondarev: I will add that now :)15:32
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regXboidid we lose mlavalle there?15:33
carl_baldwinExactly why we need to run HA meetings.15:34
regXboiis this an HA meeting?15:34
* regXboi hopes it is15:34
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carl_baldwinregXboi: We are trying, but not quite there.  The blueprint for HA meeting has been approved.15:35
regXboinice15:35
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mlavallehi15:35
regXboiand he's back :)15:35
mlavallesorry, got disconnected15:35
mlavallehad to reset router15:36
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: welcome back.  We were just discussing the need to make our meeting fully HA.15:36
* regXboi proposes always having 2+ entries in #chair15:36
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mlavalle;-(15:36
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: so where are we15:37
mlavalle?15:37
regXboimlavalle: we were finishing up with 150557515:37
carl_baldwinregXboi: You actually missed the beginning of the meeting where I did add cochair.  But, we still have some SPOFs.15:37
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regXboicarl_baldwin: cool15:37
carl_baldwinregXboi: We’ll get better with experience.15:38
regXboimlavalle: any more items in the bug list?15:38
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regXboi(if not I have a few)15:38
mlavalleregXboi: go ahead15:39
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regXboiI have three: bug 146215415:39
openstackbug 1462154 in neutron "With DVR Pings to floating IPs replied with fixed-ips" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462154 - Assigned to Stephen Ma (stephen-ma)15:39
mlavalleah ok, that is in the agenda15:39
mlavalleregXboi: so I didn't really loose anything15:40
regXboithe patch set is https://review.openstack.org/233334 - it is in merge conflict and carl_baldwin and I aren't comfortable with what it is proposing15:40
regXboifolks, pls take a look and weigh in15:40
regXboisecond is bug 150472615:41
openstackbug 1504726 in neutron "The vm can not access the vip of load balancer under DVR enviroment" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1504726 - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:41
SwamiregXboi: Yes this bug I am trying to reproduce it right now. I have some trouble in bringing up the Lbaas in devstack.15:41
regXboithis is still being triaged, but I'm questioning its severity15:42
regXboiSwami: I saw that15:42
SwamiregXboi: right now it is been tagged as High.15:42
regXboiSwami: yes, I'm wondering if it should be less than high15:42
regXboibut that's all15:42
SwamiregXboi: it was mentioned that this is seen in multinode only scenarios.15:42
regXboiand that can wait for the triage being finished15:42
SwamiregXboi: for now let us leave it as such.15:43
* carl_baldwin looking at severity15:43
regXboiLast one is bug 150760215:43
openstackbug 1507602 in neutron "_get_router() sometimes raises RouterNotFound when called from under create_floatingip" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507602 - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev)15:43
regXboiwhich brings our hero, obondarev back to the table :)15:43
obondarevso this one is yet to be investigated15:44
carl_baldwin+1, like what obondarev is doing for us here15:44
mlavallethe question I have here is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237476/ was merged is this the only fix needed?15:44
obondarevmlavalle: not quite15:44
obondarevwe still need to know the reason for the race condition15:44
regXboiexactly15:44
regXboiall we are doing now is masking it15:45
obondarev237476 is kind of workaround15:45
obondarevwe're just preserving the original behavior15:45
mlavalleobondarev: ok i'll add a note to the bug so we all know where we stand15:46
obondarevI have an idea on this, will check it soon15:46
regXboiagreed - I've been trying out the dvr multinode full job locally and am way down the rabbit hole trying to catch race conditions15:46
obondarevmlavalle: thanks15:46
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mlavalleregXboi: you have one more bug in the agenda. de we want to discuss?15:47
regXboimlavalle: number?15:47
mlavallehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/150557115:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1505571 in neutron "VM delete operation fails with 'Connection to neutron failed - Read timeout' error" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Sonu (sonu-sudhakaran)15:47
regXboiI'm not sure how that made it in15:48
regXboiit needs some more import from the reporter15:48
mlavalleregXboi: in that case, we have covered all the bugs I wanted to discuss today15:48
regXboier input15:49
regXboimlavalle: ack and mine as well15:49
mlavalleany more from the team15:49
Swamimlavalle: regXboi: I have another couple of bugs, that I wanted to bring in.15:49
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/150196915:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1501969 in neutron "No dhcp IPv6 assigned (slaac/slaac) with interface-add after VM boot" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)15:49
neiljerramthought that one was done now15:49
SwamiThe patch is ready and carl_baldwin I need your blessings on this.15:50
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/149978715:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1499787 in neutron "Static routes are attempted to add to SNAT Namespace of DVR routers without checking for Router Gateway." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:50
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carl_baldwinSwami: Will look15:51
SwamiI also have a patch to address this issue.15:51
Swamicarl_baldwin: I just rebased a couple of patches that you already reviewed, need your approval again #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230079/15:51
Swamicarl_baldwin: another one #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225319/15:52
Swamithanks15:52
carl_baldwinSwami: ack15:52
Swamimlavalle: are we done with bugs15:53
regXboicarl_baldwin, mlavalle: I'm planning on doing a walkthrough to update the undecided items I'm seeing15:53
mlavalledone with bugs15:54
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mlavalleregXboi: thanks!15:54
mlavalleregXboi: ping me if you need help15:54
Swamicarl_baldwin: a general question I do see this test "test_dualnet_dhcp6_stateless_from_os" failing mostly in the gate with both DVR and non-DVR routers. But it is random.15:54
carl_baldwinregXboi: obondarev: haleyb: ^15:55
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regXboicarl_baldwin: right now I consider that to be a race condition15:56
regXboione of many that we see in the gate15:56
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regXboias I said earlier, I've been running dvr-multinode-full on a broken out multinode configuration to try and catch these things15:57
SwamiregXboi: Yes the log message itself reveals that the fip private id is not responding.15:57
regXboiand see what's going on with each of them15:57
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regXboibut that's all I can say for now15:58
SwamiregXboi: keep me posted.15:58
carl_baldwinSwami: Do we have a bug for this failure?15:59
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Swamicarl_baldwin: no I have not created a bug yet, I was looking at various failures, but I will file one.15:59
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carl_baldwinSwami: thanks16:00
carl_baldwinelmiko: ack16:00
carl_baldwin#endmeeting16:00
regXboiwe are out of time16:00
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elmikothanks carl_baldwin16:00
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carl_baldwinelmiko: Sorry, those seconds were ticking away from us.  Room is all yours.16:00
Swamisee you all at Tokyo. bye16:00
elmikocarl_baldwin: no worries, happens to the best of us ;)16:01
elmiko#startmeeting api wg16:01
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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elmiko#topic agenda16:02
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elmiko#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda16:02
elmikoseems like we might have a light meeting today16:02
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elmiko#topic previous meeting action items16:02
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elmiko#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-10-08-16.00.html16:03
elmikothere was a meeting on the 15th, but no one showed >.<16:03
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elmikoso, as for action items. i think mine and miguelgrinberg's have been started16:03
* elmiko digs for links16:03
elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233729/16:04
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elmikothat's for the review on adding more APIImpact info to the docs16:04
elmiko#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group/Current_Design/Links16:04
elmikoand that is my progress so far on the link analysis16:04
elmikoas for #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18711216:05
elmikowe are still waiting for a response from alex xu16:05
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elmikoetoews wasn't able to make it today, not sure about his items16:06
elmikoand i don't see annegentle16:06
elmikoany comments on the action items?16:06
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elmikomoving on...16:07
elmiko#topic summit meetup16:07
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cdentnngh16:08
elmiko#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-api-wg-session-plans16:08
elmikocdent has been kinda enough to add a bunch of content to this page16:08
cdentmostly random16:09
elmikoyea, but i kinda agree with some of the major overtones16:09
elmikoand i hope we can discuss the working group's impact on the community at summit16:09
elmikoit would be nice to get some ideas about how we can be more effective in the larger openstack community16:10
cdentyes16:10
cdentI reckon that will be need to be the main topic16:11
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elmikoprobably, and i think we've captured that to some extent in the future plans agenda16:11
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elmiko#topic guidelines dashboard16:12
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elmikoi don't think we have any new guidelines that need attention, or are ready for freeze16:13
elmikoare there any guidelines that should be highlighted?16:13
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cdentmiguelgrinberg’s actions one is interesting and probably worthy of some more attention from people other than the three of us16:13
elmiko+116:13
elmikoi really like what he's done, but i'm an easy sell ;)16:14
elmikoi'm not sure the best path forward, like if we start announcing this guideline to get more attention is that part of a freeze or outside of that16:15
elmikokinda confusing, maybe we should just ensure that it is clean then start the freeze process?16:15
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cdenti reckon during the summit season its not going to get much light16:15
elmikoright, this will have to be stuff for after summit16:16
elmikook, moving along then16:17
elmiko#topic APIImpact16:17
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elmikoany reviews we should look at?16:17
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elmiko#topic open discussion16:18
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elmikoanything else, or should we take back 40minutes =)16:19
cdentis it just you me and stevelle here today?16:19
elmikoi think so16:19
elmikoand stevelle has been suspiciously quiet.. ;)16:19
cdentyou going to tokyo stevelle ?16:19
stevelleI am16:19
elmikocool16:19
stevellethis meeting is always double booked with another community meeting16:20
elmikono worries, i'm just goofin around =)16:20
stevellethat one is being a bit feisty16:20
elmikoi think things have slowed down a bunch for the wg recently anyways, probably good fodder for discussion at summit16:20
elmikook, well if neither of you has any issues to raise, i say let's end early =)16:21
cdent+116:21
stevellewe could mention the tags thread on the dev list16:21
elmikooh yea! good point16:21
stevellejust for those who might read later16:22
* elmiko digs for link16:22
elmiko#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/077701.html16:22
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elmikoi just started looking at this earlier, and without much research i don't see they couldn't use PATCH for a partial update16:23
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elmikoalthough, i thought there was a section in the guideline for doing a partial update16:23
cdentthere’s been some fussiness about the bodies of PATCH that we’ll need to resolve at some point16:23
elmikoyea, that's true16:24
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elmikoi think the best guidance we had we to either use json-patch *or* just an update json object, but never both!16:24
elmikos/had we/had was/16:25
cdentmaybe we should put “how about those partial updates” on the etherpad16:26
elmikoyea, was just thinking something similar16:26
cdentand then that will give us at least one technical thing to bikeshed over16:26
cdentamongst the political things16:26
stevellehmm, good topic16:26
stevelleI need to go through the schedule again and make sure I have the WG sessions marked too16:27
elmikok, added to the pad16:27
elmiko#link https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/36e6c27e324044e4b91dd7137b4ef57f16:27
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elmikoanything else?16:30
elmikook then, see you in tokyo =)16:30
elmiko#endmeeting16:31
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