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| regXboi | o/ | 14:59 |
| carl_baldwin | o/ | 14:59 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 14:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 7 14:59:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:59 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 14:59 |
| * regXboi wonders if we can do semaphore via that mechanism :) | 14:59 | |
| mlavalle | hi everybody, happy new year | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:00 |
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| mlavalle | Mitaka-2 will be on January 16th. | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | Happy new year! | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | Yikes, just over a week. | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | any other annoucements from the team? | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | if not, let's jump in.... | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| regXboi | you mean other than "#startpanic?" :) | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | first up for this week https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1478100 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1478100 in neutron "DHCP agent scheduler can schedule dnsmasq to an agent without reachability to the network its supposed to serve" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Cedric Brandily (cbrandily) | 15:02 |
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| mlavalle | This one has a fix that is ready for reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205631/ | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | I encourage the team to go an review it | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | Looks like there is some discussion to catch up on. | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | we've had this one for some weeks now..... any additional comments? | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | No | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | if not, let's move on..... | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | Just saying there has been discussion on the patch set recently. | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1516260 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1516260 in neutron "L3 agent sync_routers timeouts may cause cluster to fall down" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:05 |
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| mlavalle | For this one we have a proposed fix by obondarev: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234067/ | 15:06 |
| regXboi | there is an outstanding question on that one from garyk | 15:07 |
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| mlavalle | Also carl_baldwin suggested in Launchpad that this bug might be addressed down the road by this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225995 | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: did you mean that we might want for that spec? | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I was just pointing out the relationship. I don't know that we want to hold this up for that. | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | regXboi: yes, Oleg requested some clarification.... | 15:10 |
| regXboi | ah yes, I see that | 15:10 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: ok, so let's keep tracking that fix by Oleg.... | 15:11 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: agree | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1527089 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1527089 in neutron "[ipam] Port ID is not present in port dict that is passed to AddressRequestFactory" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 15:12 |
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| mlavalle | pavel_bondar already proposed a fix here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259697 | 15:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | Looks like WIP but it is good to know that it is in progress. | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | it got a -1 from kevinbenton last night so I think we will have a new PS soon | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | any other comments? | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | in that case, let's move on.... | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | #topic Routed network segments | 15:14 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: the mike is all yours.... | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks. | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | I put up another spec. | 15:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225384/ | 15:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | This is yet another shift in direction. | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | The IpNetwork thing would've been too hard to pull off. | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | So, this expands on multi-segmented networks to get the job done. | 15:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | I've also been starting discussions with Nova and filed a backlog spec there. | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263898/ | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | This is just a problem statement for now to let Nova know that this is coming and has implications. | 15:18 |
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| mlavalle | that is what Rackspace does.... | 15:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | Currently requesting reviews for both. | 15:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I was talking with the one engineer from Rackspace but he has moved on. I could use another contact ther. | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | there. | 15:20 |
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| mlavalle | wise move :-) | 15:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | Anyway, that's all on routed networks. | 15:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: back to you | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I would talk to roaet | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | I'll ping him later today | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | so let's move on..... | 15:25 |
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| mlavalle | #topic BGP dynamic routing | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BGP dynamic routing (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:25 | |
| tidwellr | hi | 15:25 |
| * mlavalle was about to ping tidwellr :-) | 15:26 | |
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| tidwellr | I've been playing a little catch-up, took a lot of time off around the holidays | 15:26 |
| tidwellr | thanks to vikram for moving things along | 15:26 |
| juno_nazhu | tidwellr: welcome back, how is your family? | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | that's what Holidays are for :-) | 15:27 |
| tidwellr | thank you, everyone is doing great | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | especially with a new baby | 15:27 |
| tidwellr | we're at the point where we could use some reviews | 15:27 |
| juno_nazhu | tidwellr: the release target of bgp dynamic routing is M-2, so far no patch is merged | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr: do you have the url's handy? | 15:28 |
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| tidwellr | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr: thanks :-) | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | I have started to review ... It will be a priority for me. | 15:29 |
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| tidwellr | there's some outstanding work related to DVR, but that will come in a follow-on patch | 15:29 |
| juno_nazhu | tidwellr: so the release target will not change, right? | 15:29 |
| tidwellr | you also might see some new patch sets as I refactor tests | 15:29 |
| tidwellr | but we're ready to have some eyes on this code | 15:30 |
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| tidwellr | juno_nazhu: the holidays wiped me out completely, lost some momentum | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: I noticed the chain depends on a patch from Kevin. I'm trying to push that one along first and get it out of the way. | 15:31 |
| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: thanks for that | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | under the same gerrit topic, I assume? | 15:32 |
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| regXboi | juno_nazhu: IIRC, armax is the one that set the release targets and they move as things merge or don't - it's more a matter of getting the patch sets reviewed and when they merge, they merge | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I don't think Kevin's was under the same topic but it is a dependency. | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr: any other comments? | 15:34 |
| juno_nazhu | regXboi: ok, but i think bgp dynamic routing need more reviewers | 15:34 |
| tidwellr | just a call for some core reviewers, let's drop the bombshells now instead of later :) | 15:34 |
| tidwellr | that's it for me | 15:34 |
| juno_nazhu | you can see the review comments is few | 15:35 |
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| carl_baldwin | haleyb: ZZelle: If you have any bandwidth... | 15:35 |
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| * tidwellr passes the mic to mlavalle | 15:37 | |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | #topic DNS | 15:38 |
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| haleyb | carl_baldwin: tidwellr: will do | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | Before the holidays I got a set of reviews for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259697 from armax and carl_baldwin | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | the core of the comments was that I was making REST calls to the DNS service inside the core plugin db transactions, so I was asked to move them out | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | before leaving for vacation last week, I was I able to re-code it using callback. The coding is finished and this week I have been testing | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | the testing is going nicely. I am very close to push the next revision. That will happen today | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | all the REST calls to the DNS service are now in the callbacks | 15:41 |
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| mlavalle | that's my update for this week. Any questions? | 15:42 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: No, looking forward to the next revision. | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Let us know as soon as it is ready. | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | if not, let's move on | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | will do :-) | 15:43 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Address Scopes | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Address Scopes (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:43 | |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: back to you.... | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | This one has been making some good progress. | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | I need to figure out why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192032/ has started failing tests. But, I ask cores (besides haleyb) to look at it. | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | Once that is in, we just have one main patch to add address scope functionality in the L3 agent. | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | The final patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212669 | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | I've had lots of great help from xiaohhui and colleagues on this patch. Many thanks. | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | I think we're close to reconciling it with DVR. | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: That's all I have. | 15:46 |
| haleyb | carl_baldwin: it's failing due to a floating IP bug fixed by kevin this morning, i'll recheck it | 15:47 |
| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: creating address scopes with the CLI shouldn't work without https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233810/ | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: Thanks1 | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks! | 15:47 |
| tidwellr | the server-side code has merged, but the client review is stuck for some reason that I'll follow up on | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | moving on.... | 15:48 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Open discussion | 15:48 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: thanks | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | I have a little annoucements. My group hired this week a recent college graduate. He has been assigned to me to mentor him | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | The plan is to help him become a Neutron developer | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | and contribute code to the community | 15:50 |
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| mlavalle | so he will start joining this meeting next week | 15:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: looking forward to meeting him. | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I'll introduce him properly next week | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | any other topics? | 15:52 |
| regXboi | It looks like I'm going to be spending some cycles looking at HA routers under scale | 15:52 |
| regXboi | so there may be some defects/patchsets spin out of that for folks to review | 15:52 |
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| mlavalle | if there are no other topics..... thanks for attending this meeting | 15:54 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks for chairing! | 15:55 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 7 15:55:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-01-07-14.59.html | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-01-07-14.59.txt | 15:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-01-07-14.59.log.html | 15:55 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: my pleasure | 15:55 |
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| docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 7 16:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'app_catalog' | 16:00 |
| docaedo | #topic rollcall | 16:00 |
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| docaedo | courtesy ping :) kfox1111 ativelkov kzaitsev_ws rmoe | 16:01 |
| docaedo | Quite possibly everyone is still in the midst of post-holiday-fog, so maybe this will be the shortest meeting ever! | 16:01 |
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| docaedo | oh man .. wrong start time! back in an hour :D | 16:03 |
| docaedo | #endmeeting | 16:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 7 16:04:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-01-07-16.00.html | 16:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-01-07-16.00.txt | 16:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-01-07-16.00.log.html | 16:04 |
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| docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 7 17:00:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| docaedo | #topic rollcall | 17:00 |
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| docaedo | o/ | 17:00 |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 17:01 |
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| docaedo | courtesy ping :) ativelkov kzaitsev_ws rmoe | 17:02 |
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| * j_king waves. | 17:03 | |
| kfox1111 | hi | 17:03 |
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| docaedo | three is better than one :) | 17:03 |
| docaedo | Agenda found here: | 17:04 |
| docaedo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/app-catalog | 17:04 |
| docaedo | The status updates I have are all related to the next topic in the agenda, so I'll hold off on any of that - anyone else have any updates? | 17:04 |
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| docaedo | <crickets> | 17:06 |
| docaedo | #topic Resolve direction and plans for dead-link checking | 17:06 |
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| docaedo | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/app-catalog/+spec/detect-stale-entries | 17:07 |
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| docaedo | I'm not sure we can resolve this today, was hoping we'd have more folks to have a conversation on it - I feel like we're stuck between my proposal and kfox1111 objections to it | 17:07 |
| kfox1111 | did you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257663/? | 17:09 |
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| kfox1111 | patch 7? | 17:09 |
| kfox1111 | I don't particularly like it, but I think its probably a good enough comprimize for now. | 17:09 |
| docaedo | um, now I'm wondering if I missed it in the holidays - is that basically just adjusting the schema so "active" does not site under attributes? | 17:10 |
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| kfox1111 | I worked on coming up with a different way to do it, but there is a bug in the horizon plugin that prevented a more clever solution. | 17:10 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. | 17:10 |
| kfox1111 | I still think it would be better to merge documents and keep dead links out of gerrit, but I won't block it. | 17:11 |
| docaedo | I would be OK with the schema adjustment | 17:11 |
| kfox1111 | ok. | 17:12 |
| docaedo | then I'll make the changes to the link check script, and we can get that script merged into app-catalog as well | 17:12 |
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| docaedo | I have to change the infra bit anyway (experimental turned out to be a bad suggestion for testing this) | 17:12 |
| kfox1111 | k. | 17:12 |
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| kfox1111 | hmm... k. | 17:13 |
| docaedo | so along with that, I'll point the link check script at app-catalog/tools so we can iterate further without requiring a merge in infra | 17:13 |
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| docaedo | the reason "experimental" was the wrong pipline is that it causes proposal-bot to propose a change on top of the patch that's being tested, which it's not meant to do | 17:14 |
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| kfox1111 | ah. yeah, that would be a problem. | 17:14 |
| docaedo | what it's expected to do is create a clean checkout, run the script, and if it finds any changes, propose them as a new patch - but it only works that way if it's in the periodic pipline | 17:14 |
| kfox1111 | yeah, nice. then we can add features to it more easily too. +1. | 17:14 |
| docaedo | yep | 17:14 |
| docaedo | it's not on the agenda, but did you happen to look at the hash_update thing that builds on top of that in the same script? | 17:15 |
| docaedo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-catalog-hash-update | 17:16 |
| kfox1111 | looking... | 17:17 |
| docaedo | keep in mind this is again a short-term thing, and even though it adds another field under "attributes" I think it's the least-effort approach to keeping hashes up to date in the catalog | 17:18 |
| kfox1111 | mostly ok with it. minor -1 again for adding new attributes. | 17:18 |
| docaedo | :) | 17:18 |
| kfox1111 | add it to schema and we're good. :) | 17:18 |
| kfox1111 | its like 2 extra lines. ;) | 17:18 |
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| kfox1111 | maybe rename it to match other things too. I think _url is more common then _source. | 17:19 |
| docaedo | I'm OK with that, except that just adding it to the schema will not expose that in the web site | 17:19 |
| docaedo | without also updating the site | 17:19 |
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| docaedo | +1 on hash_url | 17:19 |
| kfox1111 | ok. add it there too. :) | 17:19 |
| kfox1111 | well... does anyone care? | 17:20 |
| kfox1111 | end users I mean. | 17:20 |
| kfox1111 | they care about the hash it self, for sure, but that should be kept up to date. | 17:20 |
| docaedo | I am in favor of just having it under attributes because that's where the url and hash get dumped right now anyway, so seems to me having hash_url sit there as well makes sense | 17:20 |
| kfox1111 | we keep adding stuff though. that doesn't help us get rid of it. | 17:21 |
| kfox1111 | trying to provide a stable api without schema checking those things is a pain. | 17:22 |
| docaedo | I think keeping url, hash and hash_url in the same place - I would argue adding it in attributes is one option, or else we should be talking about removing attributes entirely | 17:22 |
| docaedo | and as for removing entirely | 17:22 |
| docaedo | I'm on board for v2, but don't see how we can cleanly do that in v1 | 17:22 |
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| kfox1111 | there's two different things we version. the schema, and the api. | 17:23 |
| kfox1111 | we can have api v1 and schema v2. the plugin should support that I think. | 17:24 |
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| kfox1111 | having the python api allows us one source, which is always the v2 schema, | 17:24 |
| kfox1111 | and convert it to a v1 compatible one for those that cant read v2. | 17:24 |
| kfox1111 | so we don't have to have a messy database to support older things anymore. | 17:25 |
| docaedo | Are you proposing we implement this in the short term as a way of preventing adding any more fields under attributes? | 17:25 |
| docaedo | I'm trying to understand what work is avoided/created in the short term vs. long term | 17:26 |
| kfox1111 | I'm just saying, we can implement new stuff outside of attributes, and work towards getting rid of attributes entirely a piece at a time and nothing should break. | 17:26 |
| kfox1111 | if we do it all at once, its for sure more work, since you have to put it in attributes, then you have to put more code in to move it out of attributes. lets just skip that and put new stuff where it belongs, and then I just have to focus on getting the old stuff fixed up. | 17:27 |
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| docaedo | I see that, but in my mind, it doesn't matter too much because once we switch to glare we're abandoning the yaml entirely, so we'll have to do a big-bang transition no matter what - where v1 schema is mapped to however things have to be fit into glare | 17:29 |
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| docaedo | *BUT* | 17:30 |
| docaedo | I don't mind making a small schema adjustment to add hash_url, and adjusting the site to show that as well so people can see where the hash is coming from (if they care) | 17:30 |
| docaedo | then we can land this stuff and forget about it for x months until Glare lands :D | 17:31 |
| kfox1111 | k. | 17:31 |
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| kfox1111 | we still will need a schema with glare. spending time coming up with the proper one won't be in vain. | 17:32 |
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| docaedo | +1 | 17:32 |
| docaedo | I should have time today to do this | 17:32 |
| kfox1111 | k. thx. | 17:33 |
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| docaedo | the other thing on the agenda was to do with glare, but I believe many/most/all mirantis folk are on vaca until next week so maybe we skip that, move to open discussion? | 17:33 |
| kfox1111 | k. | 17:33 |
| docaedo | #topic Open discussion | 17:34 |
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| docaedo | I don't have anything to add today under the topic of open discussion... | 17:34 |
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| kfox1111 | hmm... in the ne gerrit, how do you watch a review without reviewing? | 17:34 |
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| kfox1111 | oh. nm. I think I found it. | 17:35 |
| * kfox1111 is still getting used to the new interface | 17:35 | |
| docaedo | ok - I didn't have an answer for you, I'm still poking around and getting comfortable with it | 17:35 |
| docaedo | haha | 17:35 |
| docaedo | same here man, I like it at any rate - I kind of like having to learn some stuff with the interface, forces me to pay closer attention to it | 17:36 |
| docaedo | are we done for today? Seems so to me... | 17:37 |
| kfox1111 | its under reviewers, "Add..." button. | 17:38 |
| kfox1111 | yup. I think we're good. | 17:38 |
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| docaedo | thank you, glad we resolved this stuff :) | 17:38 |
| docaedo | Talk to you on #openstack-app-catalog ! | 17:38 |
| docaedo | #endmeeting | 17:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 7 17:39:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-01-07-17.00.html | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-01-07-17.00.txt | 17:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-01-07-17.00.log.html | 17:39 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard_: hi | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: hi there | 18:01 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: hi! | 18:01 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: Happy 2016! :) | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: wish you the same! :-) | 18:01 |
| tbachman | thx! | 18:01 |
| igordcard_ | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 18:01 |
| igordcard_ | happy 2016 to all! | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | not sure we have enough critical mass for the meeting today | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | just waiting for rkukura to join | 18:02 |
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| igordcard_ | SumitNaiksatam: I don't have anything about QoS to discuss on an IRC meeting | 18:02 |
| rkukura | hi - sorry I’m late | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard_: no problem | 18:02 |
| igordcard_ | SumitNaiksatam: but perhaps we could talk offline, I will send an email afterwards | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard_: sure | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hi | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 7 18:03:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Jan_7th.2C_2016 | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pretty short agenda at might end | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Liberty Sync | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:liberty-sync | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks for reviewing the patches | 18:04 |
| rkukura | These all look good to me, and have my +2s | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think magesh reviewed the patches as well and he said he would join the meeting to discuss | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i dont see any negative comments | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but i wanted to discuss during this meeting before we go ahead and merge these patches | 18:05 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I had a couple, but you addressed them | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay, thanks | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so my plan is to release L1 with this change | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we can then test that, and shortly after cut the stable/liberty | 18:06 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: That sounds reasonable to me | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:06 |
| rkukura | Any idea how much additinal work would then be needed to make our master work with the other projects’ masters? | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have also created some temporarry branches for the vendor projects which were dependencies for GBP | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i intend to take up aligning master with other openstack master immediately after this | 18:07 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: +2 | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: unfrotunately i have not evaluated this yet | 18:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | while on that | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have not changed the DB migration scheme for GBP | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | meaning we are still following the same scheme as Juno and Kilo for Liberty | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | other projects, Neutron most notably, has moved to using two separate chains for upgrade and downgrade | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this is something we should consider for the M release | 18:09 |
| rkukura | Aren’t these for expand and contract rather than upgrade and downgrade? | 18:09 |
| rkukura | I thought we no longer to downgrades | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yeah i meant expand and contract | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you are right neutron doesnt support downgrade | 18:10 |
| rkukura | My vague understanding is that these are intended to support rolling upgrades | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: exactly | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so i definitely think this will be useful for us | 18:11 |
| rkukura | agreed | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | however given that we want to keep GBP liberty code base closer to juno/kilo i did not incorporate this change | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we still have some downgrade constructs in our migration | 18:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | when we move to expand/contract we should remove the downgrad constrcuts | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hopefully we can move quickly to stable/liberty and then you will have a version that you can work with | 18:13 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: also, we will probably be having new stable releases for juno and kilo shortly (since we did all those backports) | 18:13 |
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| rkukura | My goal for this year is to get GBP into RDO/delorean ;) | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: probably end of this week or early next week | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: cool, so i will try to get these to you at the earliest | 18:14 |
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| rkukura | OK, I’ll be ready to update fedora/kilo once those are ready. I don’t think juno is maintained anymore | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i think we might be pretty “stable” now (hopefully!) :-) | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ah you are right about juno | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Stable branches | 18:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | since we are discussing this | 18:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: you are working with the kilo branch, anything that you noticed needed to be fixed, or its looking good for now? | 18:16 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: just using ML2 for now | 18:16 |
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| tbachman | will be using GBP soon | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: ah ok | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: looking forward to that :-) | 18:16 |
| tbachman | FWIW, I’ve run a devstack setup with GBP on stable/kilo, but that was about a month ago | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: great work so far though! | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: okay | 18:17 |
| tbachman | yup. But no tempest/rally. Just user testing. | 18:17 |
| tbachman | (and simple at that) | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regarding devstack, we also liberty devstack now, if anyone wants to try | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: okay thanks | 18:17 |
| rkukura | speaking of devstacks, is anyone doing there GBP development on CentOS 7? | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i know amit was using CentOS but not sure he was specifically using it for developing GBP related stuff | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: anything specific you were looking for? | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic GBP devstack | 18:18 |
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| rkukura | OK, devstack master no longer support fedora 20, so I need to move off that, probably to CentOS | 18:19 |
| tbachman | rkukura: anything you think might be a potential issue there? | 18:19 |
| tbachman | ah | 18:19 |
| rkukura | One minor issue is our devstack patch does “service apache2 restart”, which needs to be “service httpd restart” on Red Hat systems | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay, i am not sure that restart is still needed | 18:20 |
| tbachman | rkukura: FWIW, I’ve had issues with that on 14.04 ubuntu as well | 18:20 |
| rkukura | Would be best to drop it if possible | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: i recall you mentioning that you had removed that restart? | 18:20 |
| tbachman | (not with the actual command, but that it didn’t seem to work) | 18:20 |
| tbachman | yeah — haven’t debugged it tho | 18:20 |
| tbachman | you need it for sure for a clean install | 18:21 |
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| tbachman | b/c that brings down apache so that it can pick up the UI chnages after restarting | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: before you do stack.sh can you comment it out and check if it works on CentOS? | 18:21 |
| tbachman | which is presumably why that’s in there | 18:21 |
| tbachman | but I was seeing failures in the restart on subsequent restacks | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: that was the original intent | 18:21 |
| tbachman | so, after initial install, it can/should be removed. | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: okay | 18:21 |
| tbachman | seems like there should be a “generic” way to do this in devstack | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on ubuntu it works with subsequent restacks as well | 18:22 |
| rkukura | doesn’t devstack to the restart for us? Not clear why GBP would need an additional restart | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: yes there is more than one way | 18:22 |
| tbachman | rkukura: it may be where we’ve hooked in our UI changes | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: tbachman so that brings us to the next point while we are still on this topic | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so devstack has now evolved into a out-of-tree plugin based model | 18:23 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we also need to move in that direction | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am not sure doing that is going to solve this horizon specific issue | 18:23 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | but nevertheless we need to have our devstack plugin which can be in-tree in GBP | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that way we dont have to do the patching we are doing now | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and we can hopefully use the same devstack plugin for our gate jobs as well as for installation on dev setup | 18:24 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I recall at least heat and maybe horizon wanting our code to move into their trees, even if contrib, rather than in separate repos | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | currently we have slightly different patches for them | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, i think it was Heat which specifically mentioned that | 18:25 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: and you are right, i think Horizon has accepted quite a bit of code in contrib | 18:26 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Mentioned it because doing that might simplify things in devstack a bit | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: agree | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | anything else we wanted to discuss today? | 18:27 |
| rkukura | what was the conclusing regarding the liberty sync patches? | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i think we can merge them | 18:28 |
| rkukura | I wasn’t clear whether magesh had some specific issue or not | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i dont think so, but i will ping him again later today | 18:28 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | he said he would comment and join the meeting | 18:28 |
| rkukura | ok, and then lets get a 2nd core reviewer | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yeah he can be that one | 18:29 |
| rkukura | good | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: tbachman: igordcard_ do you know of any tool that can be used to generate API documentation from the python code? | 18:29 |
| rkukura | I’ll be ready to re-review if needed | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: great thanks | 18:29 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: google? ;) | 18:29 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: sure :-) | 18:29 |
| tbachman | lol | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont think its as straight forward since we use a home grown framework for defining the API layer | 18:30 |
| tbachman | I’ve used swagger for ODL | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | by we, i mean the framework defined in neutron (resource attribute map, etc) | 18:30 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: I guess it also depends on how deep you want to go with API documentation | 18:31 |
| tbachman | given python’s lack of typing | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: very true | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for now i am just thinking we will have a RST doc | 18:32 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: You are asking about the REST API right? | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it wil be better than what we have now (which is just CLI examples) | 18:32 |
| tbachman | ah | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes | 18:32 |
| * tbachman recalls his last comment | 18:32 | |
| rkukura | Probably wouldn’t be hard to write a bit of python code that spit out a skeleton based on the attribute maps | 18:32 |
| tbachman | do they do something like that for this: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: exactly | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: but i think they use WADL to write that | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: and that is pretty cumbersome to deal with | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i had to deal with it when doing the fwaas documentation | 18:34 |
| tbachman | seems like openstack should have a unified solution to this | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: i think that is the preferred one | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but then for the established projects doc teams have worked on this | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we havent had resources like that | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so if we are able to generate the content, perhaps in RST | 18:35 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: I see — thx | 18:35 |
| rkukura | we need https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/API/WADL | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | at some later point someone proficient in these markup languages can pick it up | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks | 18:35 |
| rkukura | was this implemented? | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | its a mechanical process, but it takes a long time to write | 18:36 |
| rkukura | This talks about a script generating it from the attribute maps | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i dont think so, but i might be wrong | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i have seen people manually write this up | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | usually you take an existing document and hack it to suite your new API spec :-) | 18:37 |
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| tbachman | :( | 18:37 |
| tbachman | folks have a high threshold for pain | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: yeah, painful | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alright, if nothing else, lets wrap it up for today | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hopefully people will be back from vacation next week | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: tbachman igordcard_: thanks for joining | 18:38 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thank you! | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | btw there was an update from OSM | 18:39 |
| rkukura | ok, thanks SumitNaiksatam! | 18:39 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: see you next week! | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | “NSF design is done. we started implementing. “ | 18:39 |
| tbachman | (in SJ) | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: oh wow! | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we will need to close on the NSF spec | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/239743 | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 7 18:40:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-01-07-18.03.html | 18:40 |
| rkukura | bye | 18:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-01-07-18.03.txt | 18:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-01-07-18.03.log.html | 18:40 |
| tbachman | l8r! | 18:40 |
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