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tdurakov#startmeeting Nova Live Migration14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 19 14:00:21 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tdurakov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration'14:00
mdbootho/14:00
andrearosahi14:00
eliqiaoo/14:00
tdurakovhi14:00
pkoniszewskio/14:00
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tdurakovagenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration14:01
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tdurakovso, let's start14:01
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tdurakov#topic priority reviews14:01
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shaohe_fenghi all14:01
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tdurakovany reviews that needed to be discussed?14:02
shaohe_fengtdurakov:  one, please14:03
tdurakovshaohe_feng, sure, which one?14:03
shaohe_fengtdurakov:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258813/14:04
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shaohe_fengI'd like to discuss the interval to write DB14:05
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shaohe_fengtdurakov: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258813/4/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py14:05
shaohe_fengnow I set it 0.5s14:05
pkoniszewskishaohe_feng: I think that this is a good topic for our mailing list14:05
shaohe_fengpkoniszewski: OK, let talk it by mailing list.14:06
tdurakovso, fréquence of db writes, right?14:06
shaohe_fengtdurakov: yes.14:06
pkoniszewskishaohe_feng: i think we need folks familiar with DB to discuss about it14:06
shaohe_fengtdurakov: any suggestion?14:07
tdurakov+1 for ml14:07
andrearosapkoniszewski: not jsut that, need to understand if it makes sense to have an update every 0.5s on a task which can last hours...14:07
pkoniszewskiyup14:07
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pkoniszewskiexactly, just wanted to write that my question is who will poll API every 0.5 seconds for even 15 hours or more14:07
eliqiaoandrearosa: that won't take hours.14:08
andrearosabtw +1 for ml discussion14:08
tdurakovbtw, compute can't make writes to db by itself, right?14:08
pkoniszewskiit can't, it needs to go through conductor14:08
tdurakovyep, so there is additional load for messaging14:08
mdboothI'm pretty sure it can. However, in this case it would go through conductor.14:08
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tdurakovshaohe_feng please start thread in ML.14:09
shaohe_fengtdurakov: yes. I will.14:10
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tdurakovlet's move on, any reviews?14:10
eliqiaotdurakov: I got one14:10
eliqiaotdurakov: no need to discuess, just want to get some eyes for review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/making-live-migration-api-friendly14:11
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eliqiaotdurakov: thx, we can move on next.14:11
tdurakoveliqiao,acked, added for todo list14:12
tdurakovmore reviews?14:12
tdurakovok, moving to the next topic14:12
tdurakov#topic bugs14:13
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shaohe_fengtdurakov:  need more reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258797/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258771/14:13
* mdbooth has found a couple, but I haven't written them up, yet. Mean to use them to help get reviews for my refactor series.14:14
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mdboothThey are: you can't have ephemeral disks on Rbd or Raw backends.14:14
mdboothAnd the backend holds the wrong locks whilst writing to both the image cache and disks.14:14
tdurakovmdbooth, could you file a bug please for this?14:15
mdboothMeaning that writes to all backends are basically unlocked.14:15
mdboothYeah, will do. I have a note here.14:15
eliqiao+1 for file a bug.14:15
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mdboothUlterior motive for not doing that: if anybody fixed it before me, it would conflict with my patch series :)14:16
tdurakovsounds strange, as I've tested ceph for nova, worked fine. need more info14:16
eliqiao(please also tagging live-migration)14:16
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mdboothtdurakov: It works, but the locking is wrong.14:16
mdboothBut the ephemeral disks don't work. That raises an exception.14:16
tdurakovah14:16
* andrearosa just triggered file alarm leaving the meeting :(14:17
* eliqiao would like to see the reproduce steps and I will have a try.14:17
mdboothBut please, don't submit patches.14:17
tdurakovanother one from me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/153523214:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1535232 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live-migration ci failure on nfs shared storage" [Undecided,New]14:17
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tdurakovfound during ci jobs failure on nfs, reproduces from time to time14:18
mdboothqemu: terminating on signal 15 from pid 806214:19
mdboothAny idea what that means at a high level?14:19
tdurakovworking on it with kashyap14:19
tdurakovdestination node failed, and it seems to be qemu-level issue14:19
tdurakovso, if you triggered job, and found such failures, please recheck14:21
davidgiluktdurakov: Yeh kashyap asked me about that; if possible try with a newer qemu, I keep adding more debug to the failure path so it might tell you a bit more14:21
eliqiaotdurakov: these logs are grabed from gate?14:21
pkoniszewskitdurakov: have you checked on which nodes it fails?14:21
pkoniszewskitdurakov: there is similiar issue reported and miedem found that it primarly fails on OVH nodes (the slowest ones)14:22
pkoniszewskitdurakov: FYI https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/152489814:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1524898 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Volume based live migration aborted unexpectedly" [High,Confirmed]14:22
tdurakovdavidgiluk, I haven't reproduced it locally yet, speaking about packages, there are plans for new job with latest packages14:22
tdurakoveliqiao, yep14:22
pkoniszewskitdurakov: it might be the same issue actually14:22
eliqiaopkoniszewski: that one is volumed based.14:23
tdurakovpkoniszewski, will check after meeting, but yes, possible duplicate14:23
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tdurakovI think it's live-migration problem at whole, so it could affect all scenarios14:24
pkoniszewskieliqiao: it fails occasionally so we can't be sure that it does not affect volume based LM also14:24
tdurakovpkoniszewski, yes14:24
eliqiaopkoniszewski: tdurakov that may all low level issue14:24
pkoniszewskianway +1 for a job with latest packages14:25
tdurakovpkoniszewski, it's markus_z plans14:25
eliqiao+1 also would like to search about qemu bugs14:25
tdurakovok, let's move on14:25
tdurakovany issues?14:26
tdurakov#topic Mid cycle meetup14:26
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* eliqiao testing, am i still on line ?14:27
pkoniszewskieliqiao: yes ;)14:28
tdurakovany ideas to be discussed during mid-cycle? please add to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-midcycle14:28
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* eliqiao thanks pkoniszewski :)14:29
tdurakovwell, next topic14:30
tdurakov#topic CI status14:30
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tdurakovceph, job is on review, thanks for reviewing, also patch in project-config that enables triggering got +214:31
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tdurakovso, hope everything will be merged soon14:31
eliqiaotdurakov: cool, thanks for the hard efforts.14:31
tdurakovas said before, found one bug in new job14:31
mdboothIs there any CI which touches LVM?14:32
eliqiaotdurakov: one question, do you have any guide on how to setup it in local enviroment to do testing ?14:32
tdurakovmdbooth, lvm for what?14:33
mdboothtdurakov: For nova storage14:33
eliqiaolvm for qemu backend ?14:33
mdboothnon-volume14:33
eliqiaois that use local lvm as qemu backend ?14:33
tdurakoveliqiao, good question, added this for todo14:33
tdurakovmdbooth, haven't seen one14:33
mdbootheliqiao: I guess you could describe it like that14:33
eliqiaotdurakov: I would like to get that docs, so developer can do more testing locally.14:34
mdboothtdurakov: It's significantly different to the other backends, and I'm making lots of changes14:34
mdboothwhich makes me nervous14:34
tdurakovmdbooth, acked, will start ml for adding lvm for this job, thank you for idea14:34
tdurakovbtw, ansible 2.0 released14:35
tdurakovthis broke hook last week14:35
eliqiaotdurakov: hmm. can you please let me know the docs of how to do local LM testing when you finished?14:35
tdurakoveliqiao, sure14:36
eliqiaotdurakov: thanks in advance :)14:36
eliqiaotdurakov: what the issue of ansible when upgrade to 2.0?14:36
tdurakovfyi  https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/1386214:36
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tdurakoveliqiao, ^14:36
eliqiaotdurakov: thx.14:37
tdurakovanything about ci?14:37
tdurakovthen next topic14:38
tdurakov#topic Open Discussion14:38
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eliqiaojust FYI #link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html14:39
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eliqiaoI am kinds of worry about our schedule, there's lots patch to be reviewed.14:40
davidgiluktdurakov: How repeatable is that migration failure with nfs?14:40
tdurakovdavidgiluk, not often14:40
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tdurakovI'd say rare14:41
davidgiluktdurakov: Hmm, that makes it a bit trickier; it's important to make sure if we can tell whether the migration failed on the destination is coming before or after the error 15 (i.e. someone killed the source qemu)14:41
davidgiluktdurakov: i.e. is the destination just complaining because the source died, or did the destination dieing cause the problem14:41
tdurakovdavidgiluk, I'll provide more detailed stats in a day for this using logstash.openstack.org14:42
davidgiluktdurakov: OK, thanks - the other thing I've done in the past is use tracing or systemtap to watch the receive side, but it's tricky if it's very rare14:42
tdurakovdavidgiluk, to highlight, haven't reproduced it locally yet14:43
tdurakovso yes, everything is tricky here14:44
tdurakovany other things to be discussed during meeting?14:45
tdurakovso, thanks to all14:46
pkoniszewskithanks!14:46
tdurakov#endmeeting14:47
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eliqiaothanks. bye!14:48
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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 19 17:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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devkulkarni#topic Roll Call17:00
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devkulkarniDevdatta Kulkarni17:00
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devkulkarnihi vijendar17:03
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vijendardevkulkarni: hi17:03
devkulkarniwe are in roll call17:03
devkulkarniits just me around here today17:03
devkulkarniI know that ashishjain is out today17:03
devkulkarnihe had informed me so17:04
vijendarok17:04
devkulkarniI don't see rahul_sr around today17:04
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devkulkarnivijendar: we can continue with the meeting topics17:05
devkulkarnimay be others will trickle in17:05
devkulkarnilets wait for 2/3 minutes before I continue17:05
vijendarsure17:05
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dimtrucko/17:06
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devkulkarnihi dimtruck17:07
devkulkarniits vijendar and me here17:07
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vijendarhi dimtruck17:07
mkamMelissa Kam17:08
devkulkarnihi mkam17:08
mkamhi :)17:08
devkulkarnialright.. so we have vijendar, dimtruck, mkam17:08
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devkulkarniwe can proceed17:08
devkulkarnihere is the agenda for today's meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-01-19_1700_UTC17:08
devkulkarniplease take a minute to look through the agenda17:08
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devkulkarnialright..17:10
devkulkarni#topic Announcements17:10
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devkulkarniI don't have any announcements. Do any of you have any announcements to make?17:10
mkamnone from me17:11
devkulkarnialright17:11
devkulkarniwill proceed forward17:11
devkulkarni#topic Review Action Items17:11
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devkulkarnithere were no action items from last time17:11
devkulkarniso lets proceed to the next topic in which there are several times17:11
devkulkarniitems17:11
devkulkarni#topic Blueprint/Bug review and Discussion17:12
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devkulkarniAlright.. so in last few days I filed several new bugs17:12
devkulkarnilet me go over them17:12
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devkulkarniif any one wants to take up any of them that will be awesome17:13
devkulkarni1) LP Handler assumes swift back end17:13
devkulkarnihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/153466917:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1534669 in Solum "lp-handler-delete-method-assumes-swift-backend" [High,New]17:13
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devkulkarniso this bug is about modifying the language_pack_handler's delete method17:13
devkulkarniif you look in the code, currently it only has support for removing LPs from swift17:14
devkulkarnithere is no support for deleting/removing LPs from glance17:14
devkulkarniand glance is our default backend17:14
devkulkarniso what ends up happening is, when we run functionaltests with the default settings, there are bunch of lps left behind in glance17:14
devkulkarnithere is a short term and long term fix for this issue17:15
devkulkarnito fix the functionaltests, we can change the default image_storage from glance to swift17:15
devkulkarnithis is the short term solution17:15
devkulkarniin the long term, we want to add support for deleting images from glance17:16
devkulkarniwith appropriate check to delete the image from the right backend17:16
vijendarI think we should fix this as soon as possible17:16
devkulkarnivijendar: +117:16
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devkulkarniso that is the first bug17:17
devkulkarninext set of bugs are related to functionaltests17:18
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devkulkarni2) Bugs related to functional tests (func tests not cleaning up after themselves)17:18
devkulkarni#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/153422217:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1534222 in Solum "component-func-tests-does-not-clear-image-table" [High,New]17:18
devkulkarni#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/153418917:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1534189 in Solum "trigger-func-test-not-clearing-plan-image-wf-userlogs-tables" [High,New]17:18
devkulkarni#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/153418317:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1534183 in Solum "camp-assembly-func-tests-not-clearing-image-table" [Medium,New]17:18
devkulkarnieach of these bugs identifies specific functionaltest(s) which are not cleaning up17:19
devkulkarniafter the tests are run17:19
devkulkarnimkam: I know you were looking at these.. I am wondering if you could look at the following one first:17:20
devkulkarnihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/153418917:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1534189 in Solum "trigger-func-test-not-clearing-plan-image-wf-userlogs-tables" [High,New]17:20
devkulkarnithis one is about trigger endpoint17:20
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devkulkarnithe other two are for component and assembly, which are camp related tests17:21
mkamokay, will do!17:21
devkulkarnicool, thanks mkam.. I have identified steps to reproduce the issue17:21
devkulkarniok, the next one is about our devstack vagrant setup17:22
devkulkarni#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/153544817:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1535448 in Solum "vagrant-with-devstack-plugin" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Dimitry Ushakov (dimalg)17:22
devkulkarniI have assigned this to you dimtruck .. this is not a blocker right now, but it will be good to have the vagrant setup work with the devstack plugin17:23
devkulkarnialright.. the next one is17:25
devkulkarni4) Need to update nova-docker17:25
devkulkarnihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/153579617:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1535796 in Solum "update-nova-docker-driver" [Undecided,New]17:25
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devkulkarniToday morning I saw en email on openstack-dev mailing list about changes in nova which will break out-of-tree drivers17:26
devkulkarnithe email explicitly called out docker17:26
devkulkarnihere is that email:17:26
devkulkarnihttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084400.html17:26
devkulkarnisince we use nova-docker in our vagrant setup, I am suspecting that we might be affected by this issue17:27
devkulkarniso I have raised the above bug to keep track of the changes that we have to make in the nova-docker fork that we are using in our vagrant setup17:27
james_lidevkulkarni: so nova-docker needs a code change, or a config change?17:28
devkulkarnijames_li: I think it is code change17:28
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james_liso we just track it17:28
james_liok17:28
devkulkarniI think we will have to make the change in our fork17:28
devkulkarnithat is my guess17:28
devkulkarnialright, the last bug is17:29
devkulkarni5) Deploy existing DU image17:29
devkulkarnihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/153546217:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1535462 in Solum "api-to-deploy-created-du-in-swift-glance" [Undecided,New]17:29
devkulkarniThis is basically one of the features that we have wanted for a while17:29
devkulkarnito deploy an already built DU image17:30
devkulkarniashishjain needs this for the POC that he is doing for using Jenkins + Solum17:30
devkulkarniin his POC, he is going to use Jenkins for CI and Solum for CD17:30
vijendarshould we mark it as high priority?17:30
devkulkarnivijendar: makes sense17:31
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devkulkarnibtw, here is an etherpad with some thoughts and discussions about how to make this happen17:31
devkulkarnihttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SETnI5nKx917:31
devkulkarni"this" as in, Jenkins + Solum17:31
devkulkarniplease feel free to add thoughts/comments to the etherpad17:32
devkulkarnifor ashish's poc, he is targeting internal github17:33
devkulkarniso the above bug is for adding the deploy only endpoint to Solum17:35
devkulkarniplease feel free to comment on the bug with any thoughts/comments17:35
vijendarsure17:36
devkulkarnialright.. so lots of recent bugs.. ping me on solum irc if you want to discuss more about any of these17:36
devkulkarni#topic API/Service patches needing one more +217:36
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devkulkarnijames_li: good that you are around for the meeting today :)17:36
devkulkarniwe have several patches that need one more +217:37
james_liI saw a few patches were merged yesterday17:37
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devkulkarnijames_li: yes, murali reviewed them in the morning17:37
devkulkarnithere are a few more today17:37
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/267181/17:37
james_liok17:37
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/267181/17:37
james_lilooking17:38
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/268526/17:38
devkulkarnicool17:38
vijendarand also could you guys review https://review.openstack.org/26718217:40
james_lisure17:41
devkulkarnivijendar: looking17:41
devkulkarnivijendar: lgtm17:42
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devkulkarnialright, moving to the next one17:44
devkulkarniConverting functional tests to Tempest plugins17:44
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/264899/17:44
devkulkarnidimtruck has submitted this patch17:44
devkulkarnidimtruck, I have left a comment for you on the patch17:44
devkulkarnibasically when you resubmit the patch, use the bug that I have referenced in the comment17:45
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dimtruckthank you sir17:48
dimtrucki fwill17:48
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devkulkarnithank you dimtruck17:49
devkulkarniok, the last item before open discussion is17:50
devkulkarniMicro-service architecture spec17:50
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/254729/17:50
devkulkarnidimtruck: thanks for the review17:50
devkulkarniI have replied to your comments17:50
devkulkarniagree about your question about making distinction between mysql/rabbit etc. and services such as solum-conductor17:51
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devkulkarnion the other hand, at a broader-level we can treat mysql/rabbit and solum-conductor in a similar fashion17:52
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devkulkarnisince both are "services" which will be run (some by constructing the du, some with an already built image (like rabbit))17:53
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devkulkarnineed to study how docker-compose and kubernetes define a micro-service17:53
devkulkarniwill have some more information for next time17:54
devkulkarniothers, please review the micro-service spec and add any thoughts/comments17:54
devkulkarnivijendar: I know you had some thoughts around using heat instead of docker-compose17:55
devkulkarniwill be nice if you can add those to the spec17:55
vijendarwill do17:55
devkulkarnicool, thanks vijendar17:55
dimtruckthat makes sense17:55
devkulkarnicool17:55
devkulkarniok, opening up for open discussion17:56
devkulkarni#topic Open Discussion17:56
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devkulkarniAustin summit17:56
devkulkarniDeadline to submit presentation proposals is Feb 1st17:56
devkulkarniI hope we can submit several proposals17:56
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devkulkarnilet me know if you need any help with either any feature or putting together the proposal17:57
devkulkarniyou can also submit on your own17:57
dimtruckcool!17:57
devkulkarnijust let us all know once you submit, so that we can vote17:57
devkulkarnialso, the registration for the summit is now open17:58
devkulkarnii have registered yesterday17:58
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devkulkarnihope you all will be able there17:58
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dimtrucki'm registered as well :)17:59
devkulkarnibtw, there are low hanging fruit bugs17:59
devkulkarnihttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-low-hanging-fruit-bugs17:59
devkulkarnisome of these can be knocked off pretty quickly17:59
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devkulkarniawesome dimtruck17:59
devkulkarnialright.. its time18:00
devkulkarnithanks dimtruck vijendar james_li mkam for joining today18:00
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devkulkarnisee you next week18:00
dimtruckthanks devkulkarni!18:00
devkulkarni#endmeeting18:00
james_lisee u18:00
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-01-19-17.00.html18:00
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-01-19-17.00.txt18:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-01-19-17.00.log.html18:00
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