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sc`#startmeeting openstack-chef15:05
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 21 15:05:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sc`. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:05
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_chef'15:05
sc`ohai!15:05
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sc`DST strikes again15:12
sc`#endmeeting15:12
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Mar 21 15:12:33 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:12
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sc`#startmeeting openstack-chef16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 21 16:00:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sc`. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_chef'16:01
sc`let's try this again, with coffee16:01
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sc`my main update is that i got centos integration working. it still needs to be reviewed, but it works. ubuntu still works16:17
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markvansc`: nice progress on centos, I'll keep reviewing when I get a chance16:36
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sc`right on. i also bumped the rdo packages to a build as of last week. trying to stay close to master16:37
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sc`since all of us are distracted with other meetings, going to close this one out so as to not split focus16:43
sc`have a good one o/16:43
sc`#endmeeting16:44
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jroll#startmeeting ironic17:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
jrollhi all17:00
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jroll#chair NobodyCam devananda17:00
openstackCurrent chairs: NobodyCam devananda jroll17:00
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mjturek1\o17:00
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jrollsuper light agenda today!17:00
jroll#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting17:00
jrolllet's dive in and get outta here early17:00
rama_yo/17:00
jroll#topic announcements / remindersd17:00
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jrollcouple things17:01
mgouldo/17:01
jrollgate is looking healthy17:01
jrollplanning to release all the things this week17:01
jrollironic, IPA, ironic-ui, bifrost17:01
NobodyCamnice :)17:01
jrollI've been keeping a list of patches to prioritize here:17:01
jroll#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-mitaka-finish17:01
jrollso I would like everyone's eyes on those, please :)17:02
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jrolltrying to release everything by wednesday or thursday at the latest17:02
d0ugalo/17:02
jrollplease do ping me if you think something else belongs there17:02
betherlyo/17:02
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jrollany other announcements or reminders?17:02
gabriel-bezerrais that the 5.1.0 release?17:03
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NobodyCamdo we have links to the summit ether pads17:03
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Nisha_awayo/17:03
stendulkero/17:03
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jrollNobodyCam: oh yes!17:03
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gabriel-bezerraI mean: is that about the 5.1.0?17:03
jrollwe need thoughts on summit sessions here:17:03
jroll#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-newton-summit17:03
jrollgabriel-bezerra: yes, it will be 5.1.017:04
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davidlenwello/17:04
devanandaohhai! sorry for being a bit late17:04
jrollanything else?17:04
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jroll#topic subteam status updates17:05
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jroll#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard17:05
jrollstarts around line 9817:05
jrollno real surprises here, as far as I can see17:05
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jrollI'll give folks a couple minutes to read those and ask questions17:05
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gabriel-bezerrajroll: we from the oneview team put the dynamic allocation progress in our driver section there17:07
jrollcool.17:07
gabriel-bezerrageneral message, sorry for mentioning17:07
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NobodyCamI was going to bring up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275726/ in stuck-specs / open Discussion17:07
NobodyCamgabriel-bezerra: ^^17:07
Nisha_awayjroll, when is IPA planned to be released?17:08
Nisha_awayfor stable Mitaka17:08
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jrollNisha_away: this week, wednesday or thursday at the latest. waiting for a few more patches to land17:08
Nisha_awayjroll, ok :)17:08
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gabriel-bezerraplease do, NobodyCam. I was just updating about tracking our progress in the WhiteBoard17:08
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jrollany other questions / comments on subteam reports?17:09
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jroll#topic open discussion17:10
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jrollhave at it17:10
lucasagomeshi, since naming things is pretty hard. Anyone have any opnion on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291829/9/ironic/drivers/modules/agent_base_vendor.py  ?17:10
NobodyCamwould love to get eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275726/ has two +2 already17:10
gabriel-bezerrathank you, NobodyCam :)17:10
jrollNobodyCam: agree, but let's focus on release priorities first17:10
jlvillallucasagomes: I would vote for #2 from my initial reading...17:11
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lucasagomesjlvillal, thanks, yeah I kinda like the "oob" there as well17:12
* jroll commented the same in the patch17:12
gabriel-bezerralucasagomes: I like #2 or #317:12
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TheJuliaI kind of prefer #217:12
lucasagomesthanks folks, let's see if we get more comments there until the end of the meeting so I will update the patch accordingly17:13
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NobodyCamya I'd vote for #2 too17:13
jrollsounds like consensus to me!17:13
lucasagomesyay, ok seems we have a winner17:13
jrollanything else people want to chat about?17:13
* jlvillal thinks this meeting is screaming along :)17:13
jrollyeah, trying to give you all time to review the things on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-mitaka-finish ;)17:14
* jlvillal has the page open and will spend a few hours today on it17:14
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NobodyCam162008 lgtm as soon as test results come in17:15
jroll\o/17:15
jrollalright, gonna shut this down, thanks for the quick meeting all :)17:15
jrolllet's ship some code!@17:15
lucasagomesthanks all17:15
jroll#endmeeting17:15
sambetts\o/17:15
NobodyCamwill keep working my way down the list :) today17:15
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mgouldjlvillal, short meetings are the best meetings17:15
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jlvillalmgould: Yep :)17:15
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flwang1#startmeeting21:02
openstackflwang1: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee'21:02
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flwang1#topic roll call21:02
ryansbo/21:02
Eva-io/21:02
Eva-iflwang1: let's start meeting properly21:03
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Eva-i- #startmeeting zaqar21:03
flwang1#startmeeting zaqar21:03
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 21 21:03:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is flwang1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:03
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flwang1sorry, too rush :)21:03
Eva-iit's okay21:03
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flwang1#topic RC221:04
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flwang1is flaper87 around?21:04
flwang1#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294545/   warning for v1 and v1.1 api in favor of deprecating them in newton21:05
flwang1#link https://review.openstack.org/292702   validate PUT metadata for v1 and v1.121:06
ryansbso that needs to be in rc2 then?21:06
vkmco/21:06
flwang1ryansb: they're candidates, we need to discuss21:07
flwang1vkmc: i miss you21:07
vkmcflwang1, I'm finally back from all the things :)21:07
flaper87o/21:07
ryansbah, gotcha21:07
flwang1flaper87: i can't believe my eyes21:07
flaper87flwang1: ;)21:07
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flwang1flaper87: welcome, stranger :)21:07
flaper87told you I was going to get back to speed21:07
flaper87:D21:07
flwang1flaper87: lovely lovely lovely21:08
flwang1vkmc: flaper87: we're discussing the RC2 candidate patches21:08
flwang1(10:05:52) flwang1: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294545/   warning for v1 and v1.1 api in favor of deprecating them in newton21:08
flwang1(10:06:37) flwang1: #link https://review.openstack.org/292702   validate PUT metadata for v1 and v1.121:08
flwang1above two are on the list now21:08
flwang1anything else?21:09
flaper87nothing I can think of21:10
flwang1TBH, i'm still hesitating to get  https://review.openstack.org/292702  in21:10
vkmcme neither... going through the review queue though21:10
Eva-iflwang1: nothing for zaqar server21:10
flwang1ryansb: vkmc: ^21:10
flaper87RC2 is *only* for the server21:10
flaper87client library has been released already and there shouldn't been other releases in mitaka for it21:11
flaper87until newton starts21:11
Eva-ioh =/21:11
flaper87or better, the next client release for mitaka will be cut from the stable branch21:11
flwang1flaper87: based on my understanding, we have to release another client version for newton and backport commits back to mitaka21:12
flaper87flwang1: right21:12
flwang1flaper87: ok21:12
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flwang1anything we need to discuss against this topic?21:13
vkmcnot from me, the list looks good21:13
flwang1#topic summit topics21:13
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flwang1#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-zaqar-summit-planning21:14
flwang1i have created a pad to track the topics21:14
ryansbneat21:15
flwang1basically, my main focus for Newton will be the notification part and the redis driver21:15
ryansbnotification as in websockets?21:15
flwang1notification for everthing :)21:16
ryansbheh21:16
flwang1ok, subscription confirm and a mobile notification driver21:16
flwang1guys, pls feel free add more topics21:16
flaper87I think we should have websocket support in zaqarclient too21:16
* flaper87 will write a spec for that21:17
ryansbhow would you feel about making that optional21:17
flwang1flaper87: yes, that's a good point21:17
flaper87TripleO mentioned an interesting use case for that21:17
ryansbe.g. "websockets can be used, but only if you install this extra  lib"21:17
flwang1flaper87: it you can drive it, it would be awesome21:17
ryansbdon't know if we want to add a hard dep on websocket lib21:17
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flaper87ryansb: oh, I meant that to be optional21:17
flaper87just have it in extras21:17
flaper87but even though, I don't think a dependency on websocket lib is a big deal21:18
flaper87it's a pure python lib, afaik21:18
flwang1we can discuss the details offline21:19
ryansbor better, on the spec21:19
flwang1flaper87: do you think we still take sqlalchemy as an important part?21:19
vkmcif we are talking about autobahn lib, it's pure python21:19
vkmcso I don't see a problem21:19
flaper87flwang1: it's an important part for the control plane21:20
flwang1flaper87: i asked because i'm thinking if we still want to support migration for it21:20
flaper87we should, yes!21:20
ryansbyeah, probably21:20
flaper87I believe21:20
flwang1flaper87: yep, TBH, we(catalyst IT) is facing the case21:20
flwang1our operations guys don't not want to maintain two mongo clusters21:21
flwang1so we're thinking if we could use sql as the mgmt db and use mongo/redis as the msg db21:21
flwang1that's the context21:21
flaper87yes yes21:21
flaper87that's the whole point behind it21:21
flaper87YES!21:21
flaper87I like that21:21
ryansbyeah, that's an intended use21:21
flaper87you (Catalist IT) are my best friends21:21
flaper87That's a one time, not infinite, offer21:22
flwang1flaper87: haha21:22
flwang1i need the community support to make zaqar run on our cloud21:22
* vkmc remembers she said she was going to work on migrations for sqlalchemy and she didn't 21:22
vkmc*sad panda*21:22
flaper87the community needs Catalyst's support too21:22
flaper87:P21:22
flaper87vkmc: LIAR!!!!!21:23
vkmcSORRY21:23
flaper87vkmc: LIAR!!!!!21:23
vkmcahahahaha21:23
vkmcbo :(21:23
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vkmcok so we want migrations for sqlalchemy and we would need to define if we do them with alembic or sqlalchemy-migrate21:24
vkmcafaik the recommendation is to use alembic21:25
ryansbyeah21:25
* Eva-i added two additional proposals for summit21:25
ryansbalembic is the recommendation going forward21:25
vkmcso I'll go down that patch21:25
flaper87alembic21:25
vkmcyes21:25
vkmcok21:25
flaper87vkmc: ALEMBIC21:25
vkmcflaper87, A-LEM-BIC21:25
flaper87AAAAAALEEEEMMMBIIICCCCCC21:25
* flaper87 stuf21:25
flaper87stfu, even21:26
vkmcgood, we have an understanding21:26
flwang1vkmc: btw, we may also need to switch to oslo_db21:26
vkmcyeah... that I saw21:27
flwang1vkmc: cool21:27
vkmcthat was probably the reason I didn't keep on going with migrations impl21:27
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flwang1flaper87: another topic i would like to highlight is the 'queue'/'topic'21:28
ryansbjust standardizing on the name, then?21:28
flwang1the #3 topic21:28
flaper87flwang1: do you really want to know my opinion about that?21:28
flaper87:P21:28
flwang1flaper87: i don't actually21:28
flaper87good boy21:28
flaper87:D21:28
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flwang1flaper87: i will keep queue in Newton, and you or the next PTL can remove it in O release21:29
flaper87hahahahhahahahahah21:29
flaper87That's fine!21:29
flwang1i'm kidding21:29
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flaper87TBH, I think it's a bit late to even consider renaming/removing it21:29
flwang1but seriously, let's keep it21:30
vkmcyeah... it's a tricky move21:30
vkmcit was already when we started to discuss it21:30
flaper87But I'm open to discussions since I'm one of those (or probably the only one) that prefer topics over queues21:30
flwang1before we really know where we want to21:30
flaper87so, I'm fine either way21:30
vkmcI prefer topics too21:30
flaper87I'll bring it up every cycle but really, I'm fine21:30
flaper87I'll send you weekly emails about this but really, I'm fine21:30
flwang1i'm bring it again so that you have some special food in summit21:31
flaper87I'll text you the link to the spec but really, I'm fine21:31
flwang1the spec link is hanging on my screen21:31
flwang1;)21:31
flaper87I want it on every screen you have21:31
flwang1we can discuss it offline21:31
flwang1haha21:31
flaper87phone, monitor, window, playstation, everything21:31
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flaper87sure21:31
flwang1another topic maybe interesting is21:32
* flaper87 stfu21:32
Eva-iflwang1:do you want to rename queue to topic?21:32
flwang1pool, pool group and flavor21:32
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flaper87Eva-i: it's more than that21:32
* flaper87 gets the link21:32
flaper87Am I still the owner of that spec ?21:32
flaper87or did it land?21:32
flwang1Eva-i: flaper87 is the fan of topic, since he is still a young boy21:32
flaper87here21:32
flaper87Eva-i: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134015/21:32
flwang1but i'm old, so i'm trying to keep some old stuff21:32
Eva-iflaper87: thank you21:33
flwang1flaper87: not landed because there is a -1 from me :D21:33
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flaper87Eva-i: http://blog.flaper87.com/post/people-dont-like-to-queue-up/21:33
flaper87yeah, just found it21:33
flwang1Eva-i: don't read that blog21:33
flaper87Eva-i: don't read flwang1's messages21:33
Eva-ihey, let's act more gentle to each other21:33
flaper87Eva-i: LOL, we're obviously joking ;)21:34
flwang1Eva-i: though  i have read each blog from the hole21:34
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flwang1Eva-i: we're joking for sure21:34
flwang1ok ok ok21:35
flwang1let's be clam so that we won't fear the little girl21:35
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flwang1flaper87: are we still on the same page for removing pool group?21:36
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flaper87flwang1: mmh, good question21:37
flaper87I think we are21:37
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flaper87but It'd be better if I read again the whole issue21:38
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flwang1flaper87: the short story is    pool(N)<--> poolgroup(1) <--> flavor(1)21:38
anteayaI sure hope the use of "little girl" in this context is not meant as degrogatory towards women21:39
flwang1so basically, we dont' really need pool group21:39
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flwang1anteaya: oh, yep, since Eva-i is still a student21:39
Eva-iokay, I'll read the blog entry and spec for "topic" and then will tell you my opinion.21:39
anteayawell I think we can do better than little girl21:40
anteayawhich I personally find very condesending21:40
anteayaand would hope we were better than that21:40
flwang1anteaya: oh, thanks for the reminding21:40
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anteayaI will continue to do so21:41
Eva-ianteaya: "little girl" sounded good in the context. Also I don't get upset if I called like that. So no problem for me.21:41
anteayaEva-i: welcome to openstack21:41
anteayawell it is a problem for me21:41
anteayaI'm not going to put up with that21:42
flaper87flwang1: so, I think we're still on the same page there21:42
anteayaand wouldn't expect others to21:42
flwang1flaper87: cool21:42
anteayaanyway sorry to intterupt21:42
flaper87flwang1: is that topic for the summit ?21:42
flwang1flaper87: i'm putting it on the pad21:42
flaper87flwang1: thanks21:42
flaper87Eva-i: I don't recall if you're attending the summit21:42
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flaper87Eva-i: are you?21:42
flwang1she will21:42
flaper87THAT'S AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEE21:43
ryansbbig ol' in-person zaqar party21:43
flwang1flaper87: oh, btw, can you take the ptl hat on summit?21:43
flwang1given i won't be there21:43
flaper87flwang1: I think I can do that... Need to check the schedule21:43
flwang1and vkmc or ryansb as the backup?21:43
Eva-iflaper87: yes, I will =)21:44
flaper87Eva-i: super glad to hear that!21:44
ryansbkk21:44
flwang1thank you guys21:44
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flaper87flwang1: we'll send you the bill21:44
flwang1flaper87: i have your credit card number, body21:44
Eva-iflaper87: I would like to meet you too ;)21:44
flaper87flwang1: wait, what? When did I.. ? goddammit, you tricked me again21:45
flaper87I think Zaqar's summit will be busy again21:45
flwang1you owe me too many beer, so you told me your card number so that i can service myself21:45
flaper87not sure how many folks will attend sessions but we'll take the most out of them21:46
flaper87flwang1: oh, that explains it21:46
flaper87yup21:46
flaper87good thing I gave you vkmc's21:46
flwang1flaper87: vkmc: be sure we have a zaqar lunch or dinner21:46
flwang1at austin21:46
vkmcYES!21:46
flwang1sorry again, i can't make it21:46
flaper87I'll make sure both happen21:46
flaper87lunch AND dinner21:46
flaper87:D21:46
vkmc:D :D21:47
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flwang1thank you21:48
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flwang1anything else we should discuss today?21:48
vkmcnot that I think of...21:48
flwang1oh, btw, you guys may need to meet with tqtran to discuss about zaqar UI21:48
vkmcyp21:48
flwang1at summit21:48
flaper87yup21:48
flaper87sounds good21:48
flwang1cool, i'm good now.21:49
Eva-iflwang1: I think we should make a reminder to review client patches.21:49
flwang1anything else?21:49
flwang1Eva-i: oh, yes21:49
Eva-iso... review the client patches.21:49
flwang1it's always on my list21:49
Eva-iI'll do it after meeting.21:49
vkmcand... review client patches21:50
flwang1coooooooool21:51
flwang1flaper87: let's back to zaqar channel to fight for the queue and topic21:51
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flwang1do we need a open discussion? we have 10 mins21:51
ryansbI don't have new topics21:52
Eva-ime too21:52
ryansbjust review patches, get ++21:52
flwang1awesome21:52
flwang1thank you guys21:52
flwang1#endmeeting21:52
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