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davidgiluk(Hmm have I got my time wrong? I was expecting a migration meeting?)14:07
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rdopierame too14:10
PaulMurrayhi - Im here14:10
PaulMurray#startmeeting Nova Live Migration14:11
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  5 14:11:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is PaulMurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:11
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:11
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration'14:11
PaulMurrayis anyone still here ?14:11
jlanouxo/14:11
davidgiluko/14:11
luis5tbo/14:11
PaulMurraySorry I was late starting the meeting14:12
PaulMurrayFirst time - remarkably14:12
PaulMurrayagenda here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration14:12
PaulMurray#topic Bugs14:13
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PaulMurraynothing in the agenda for bugs, anyone got one to bring up?14:13
PaulMurray#topic Specs14:14
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PaulMurrayThere is a subteam section14:14
PaulMurrayin the review pad14:14
PaulMurrayhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking14:14
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PaulMurrayWe have a request to discuss one today14:15
PaulMurray#link Adds post-copy live migration support to Nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30150914:15
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PaulMurrayluis5tb, yours I think14:15
luis5tbyep14:15
luis5tbI submitted the bp and the spec early today14:15
PaulMurrayGood, I don't know if anyone has had a chance to look yet ?14:16
PaulMurrayare there any questions you want to bring up ?14:16
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luis5tbyep, I would like to know your opinion in a couple of items14:17
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luis5tbbased on the reply I got, seems that it is preferred to make nova automatically choose pre- or post copy as well as the switch between them14:17
luis5tbwhen it is best for the migrations, i.e, when the transfer rate is lower than the amount of memory being dirtied14:18
davidgilukbut the challenge is that you can't always use postcopy14:18
PaulMurrayluis5tb, I think there are two options14:19
luis5tbas I'm a new in this, I just wanted to define first the basis, i.e, a way of telling nova to start the migration in post-copy ready mode14:19
luis5tband then when to switch14:19
PaulMurrayluis5tb, in the last cycle we introduced "force-complete"14:19
PaulMurrayluis5tb, and it was implemented using pause14:19
PaulMurraywe expected that other ways to do the completion would come along14:19
luis5tbwas that triggered by the admin?14:20
PaulMurrayso this can be an alternative to pause14:20
PaulMurrayluis5tb, yes14:20
PaulMurrayluis5tb, the second option would be automatic14:20
luis5tbI agree on having a "switch" option similar to force-complete and the automatic one14:21
PaulMurraythat would be an option for the provider to configure in their config14:21
luis5tbjust wanted to set first the basis and then go for more advance features14:21
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PaulMurrayI would guess the force-complete would be the place to start14:21
PaulMurrayand you can come up with ideas on how to decide automatically14:21
PaulMurraydoes that make sense ?14:21
luis5tbI agree, to me it seems fairly similar (and I took a look at force-complete specs to write mine)14:22
luis5tbthat is focusing on the second API (the switch), any input about the first one? extending the nova live-migration command with a post-copy flag?14:22
luis5tbIn my opinion this should be something to be dynamically chosen by the admin, as you don't want to have all the migrations ready for being switched to post-copy due the the overhead it may suppose14:23
luis5tbor do we? in that case, (as D. Berrange suggested) we can avoid any new APIs for post-copy live migration14:24
PaulMurray...just looking at comments14:25
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PaulMurrayI can see dan's point14:26
PaulMurraywe do avoid anything that is this specific14:26
PaulMurraymaybe it should just be automatic and an option the provider can configure14:26
PaulMurraythe admin can always use force-complete to make it happen on demand14:26
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luis5tbfor the switch? or for both APIs?14:27
PaulMurrayI was thinking that it should be possible as an option on force-complete14:27
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PaulMurraymight need a little discussion on it with people like dan14:27
luis5tbyep, maybe we can extend force-complete14:27
luis5tband depend on some configuration, you either do pause or switch14:28
davidgilukPaulMurray: Except it's something that needs enabling at the start of migration (the ability to later switch) and it's only available on some tranports and there are other restrictions; so have to be a little careful14:28
PaulMurrayforce-complete has the same problem that we don't want to be specific about the way its doen14:28
PaulMurraydavidgiluk, right14:28
PaulMurrayI the only real issue is how to expose it in the API14:29
luis5tbyep, and for the post-copy enable, we need to start the migration with that flag already, as davidgiluk pointed out14:29
PaulMurrayit has certain properties as a mechanism14:29
PaulMurrayit can have some overhead on the vm14:30
PaulMurrayand it is a little more volitile14:30
PaulMurray(i.e. a failure after switch is a problem)14:30
PaulMurraybut its guaranteed to finish14:30
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PaulMurrayso something that uses that as a category rather than saying "post-copy"14:31
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PaulMurrayluis5tb, you could try getting input on ML as not all people with an opinion are in this meeting14:32
luis5tbML?14:33
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PaulMurraymail list14:33
PaulMurrayopenstack-dev14:33
luis5tbok14:33
PaulMurrayluis5tb, are you on the mail list ?14:34
luis5tbyep, I am14:34
PaulMurrayWe can review you spec and look out for the ML post to get some discussion going14:34
luis5tb(that is how I discovered this meetings about live migrations)14:35
PaulMurrayI dont' think there is much contention except these details14:35
luis5tbSo, should I write an email with the two side of the coin and see what people think?14:35
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PaulMurrayyes, and give a link to the spec review14:36
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PaulMurraywe can try to settle is quite quickly14:36
PaulMurrayAnyone one else have a spec to bring up ?14:37
PaulMurray#topic Summit sessions14:38
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PaulMurrayregular ref to newton summit ideas: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-summit-ideas14:38
PaulMurray#topic Open Discussion14:39
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PaulMurraywe have something here14:39
PaulMurrayUse target VIF information on Migration (scheuran)14:39
PaulMurraybut I don't see scheuran14:39
PaulMurray#link Use target VIF information on live migration https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301090/14:40
PaulMurrayanyone know anything about this ?14:40
PaulMurraySomething to look at then....14:41
PaulMurrayAnyone want to bring anything else up ?14:42
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jlanouxI don't have time to look at it now but it seems there was no progress on CI14:42
PaulMurraytdurakov, is there anything planned ?14:43
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tdurakovhey, sorry missed meeting14:44
tdurakovno update for ci now14:44
PaulMurraytdurakov, would be good to get a plan together for coming months14:45
PaulMurraytdurakov, are you continuing with it ?14:45
tdurakovsure14:45
PaulMurraytdurakov, do you need help14:45
tdurakovnope, will get back for ci next week14:45
PaulMurraytdurakov, I'll put it on the agenda :)14:45
tdurakovok14:45
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PaulMurrayI think we are done ?14:46
PaulMurrayI am very sorry for being late... thanks jlanoux for reminding me14:46
PaulMurraythanks for coming14:47
PaulMurray#endmeeting14:47
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mriedem#startmeeting stable15:00
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mriedem#link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StableTeam15:00
mriedemit's going to be a fast one today15:00
mriedem#topic status15:00
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mriedemhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker is pretty empty15:01
mriedemthe periodic-stable jobs have been failing due to infra issues, e.g. build timeouts on vexxhost nodes15:01
mriedembut that's happening to all jobs15:01
mriedemi'm not aware of any other blocking stable branch issues15:01
ttxo/15:01
mriedemthere are no action items from the previous meeting so skipping that15:02
mriedem#topic release news15:02
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sigmavirus24o/15:02
mriedemi don't really have any news here15:02
ttxmriedem: I have one15:02
mriedemttx: go15:02
* ttx gets notes15:02
ttxmugsie had a question for you about a fix that may or may not be acceptable for stable/mitaka post-release15:03
ttxbasically adding a dep that was previously only a transitive dep15:03
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mugsieyup - I think we sorted that out15:03
mriedemttx: yeah, we talked about it in -stable15:03
ttxoh ok missed that15:03
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mriedemttx: anything else?15:04
ttxmriedem: so it's ok post-release ? I'm fine with that15:04
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mriedemttx: by post-release you mean like adding to stable/mitaka?15:05
mriedemdesignate already requires the dep via transitive deps15:05
mriedemthe change would just add it as an explicit dependency15:06
mriedemwhich i think is ok15:06
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mriedemi don't have any other release news15:07
mriedembut i haven't checked the releases repo for stable branch release proposals either15:07
mriedem#topic tagging15:07
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mriedemthere is nothing i'm aware of, trove and keystone have the stable:follows-policy tag now15:07
mriedem#topic stuck reviews15:08
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mriedemnothing on the agenda, anyone have anything here?15:08
bknudsonno15:08
mugsieI had one15:08
mriedemgo ahead15:08
mugsiefor designate, should we be looking after stable/kilo EOL, or is that handeled by the -stable team?15:08
mriedemstable/kilo is still a coordinated release,15:09
mriedemso it will be handled by the stable maint team15:09
mriedemthe release and EOL that is15:09
mriedemDaviey is coordinating stable/kilo releases15:09
mugsiecool. I wasnt sure - we seem to have been left off the list previously when there is releases done by the stable team, so wasnt sure15:09
mriedemttx: do you know if there is a list of which projects are handled for the coordinated release?15:10
mriedemit used to just be the 'integrated' projects15:10
mugsieyeah, thats what I thought - we never quite made it to 'integrated'15:11
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mriedemi don't see anything here about which projects, only the dates https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranchRelease#Planned_stable.2Fkilo_releases_.2812_months.2915:11
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mriedem#action figure out where we define which projects are part of the coordinated stable/kilo release15:12
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mriedem#action mriedem to figure out where we define which projects are part of the coordinated stable/kilo release15:12
mriedem#topic tooling15:12
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mriedemthis is just a reminder,15:12
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mriedemihrachys has some tooling reviews up here https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:ihrachys%2540redhat.com+status:open+openstack-infra/release-tools15:13
mriedem#help review tooling changes https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:ihrachys%2540redhat.com+status:open+openstack-infra/release-tools15:13
mriedem#topic open discussion15:13
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mriedemtwo items15:13
ihrachysyeah, would be cool.15:13
mriedemmore just fyi15:13
mriedem1. Stable team fishbowl session is scheduled for 1:30pm on Thursday of the Design Summit.15:13
mriedem#info Stable team fishbowl session is scheduled for 1:30pm on Thursday of the Design Summit.15:13
ihrachysalso, I have another stable patch for tools:15:13
ihrachys#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296701/15:13
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ihrachysthat should fix automating stable releases15:13
mriedemok15:14
ihrachysdhellmann: ^ please check the patch again, I think I fixed your comments.15:14
mriedem#info Possible cross-project session to discuss stable branch EOL policy, see #13 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-cross-project-sessions15:15
ihrachysalso #10 line 144 may be interesting15:15
mriedemwhat i planned on going over in the design summit fishbowl session, i also proposed to the tuesday cross-project list15:15
ihrachystl;dr it suggests dropping coordinated deps15:16
mriedemif that's accepted for tuesday, then we can spend the session on thursday going over impl details15:16
mriedemihrachys: yeah, that's come up before as an alternative to upper-constraints and the backwards compat spec15:16
mriedemplus more and more deployment tools are using containers to solve this too15:17
ihrachysI honestly hate the suggestion. Me wearing downstream hat in addition to upstream one, I see a lot of value in deps being in line.15:17
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mriedemwell, it proposes to still have a single reqs file15:17
ihrachysmriedem: I am note sure most consumers are there with their container solutions yet.15:17
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mriedemanyway, that's it for agenda items15:18
mriedemanyone else have anything?15:18
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mriedemok, let's end the meeting15:19
mriedemthanks everyone15:19
mriedem#endmeeting15:19
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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting17:00
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devkulkarni#topic Roll Call17:00
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devkulkarniDevdatta Kulkarni17:00
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AbluHi, I will watch :->17:01
devkulkarnihi Ablu17:01
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devkulkarnilets wait for few minutes to allow team members to join in17:01
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james_lijames li17:01
devkulkarnihi james_li17:01
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james_lihi devkulkarni17:02
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devkulkarniI know that vijendar may not be joining us today17:02
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devkulkarnijames_li, Ablu: here is the agenda for today's meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-04-05_1700_UTC17:02
devkulkarnijames_li: we have Ablu as well for the meeting today17:02
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devkulkarniAblu: do you want to quickly introduce yourself?17:03
james_liHi Ablu17:03
devkulkarniAblu: james_li is one of the core contributors of solum17:03
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AbluHm. I am a student who is writing a bachelor thesis about an openstack topic, It is about deploying directly from source repositories17:04
devkulkarniAblu: cool.17:04
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devkulkarnihi vijendar17:05
vijendardevkulkarni: hi17:05
devkulkarniwe have james_li and Ablu with us today17:05
Abluso I found solum and plan to observe it too see wether it fits the needs (or wether I can reuse parts :))17:05
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james_liAblu: whats the app you tries to deploy?17:05
devkulkarniAblu: we would be happy to help you with anything specific related to solum17:06
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Ablujames_li: it is not about a specific app, more about a general way to deploy applications in various languages from source17:06
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devkulkarniAblu: sounds something with which solum will be able to help17:07
james_liAblu: yeah. will be cool if you can find some interesting apps to try :)17:07
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devkulkarnithanks Ablu for the introduction17:07
devkulkarnilets get started17:07
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devkulkarni#topic Announcements17:08
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devkulkarni1) TC voting is open; please vote17:08
devkulkarnihttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091103.html17:08
devkulkarniTC elections are happening right now17:08
devkulkarniyou might have received a link to vote17:09
devkulkarniplease take a moment to vote17:09
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devkulkarniit is important that we participate in this, as the tc is the one who decides the long term strategic vision of openstack as whole17:09
devkulkarniI think the voting remains open till April 7th17:10
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devkulkarnisecond announcement is regarding Austin summit sessions17:10
devkulkarni2) Austin summit tracks17:10
devkulkarniSolum Fishbowl session: April 28, Thursday, 4:10 - 4:5017:10
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devkulkarniSolum Work room: April 28, Thursday, 5:00 - 5:4017:10
devkulkarniI have started an etherpad17:11
devkulkarnihttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-austin-summit-planning17:11
devkulkarniplease add items that you want us to discuss during the work session and the fishbowl session17:11
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devkulkarniany other announcements that any of the team members want to make?17:12
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devkulkarnialright.. lets move to next topic17:13
devkulkarni#topic Review Action Items17:13
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devkulkarni(devkulkarni) (done) Follow up with openstack-infra team to find out root cause for the devstack gate failure17:13
devkulkarni(devkulkarni) (todo) Follow up with the devstack team17:14
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devkulkarniour devstack gate is currently failing17:14
devkulkarnilast week I updated the team on the issue17:14
devkulkarnilet me summarize that17:14
devkulkarnibasically, what is happening is, devstack scripts are trying to upload a non-existent log file (n-dhcp.log)17:15
devkulkarniI reached out to the openstack-infra team about this17:15
devkulkarnithey confirmed that this is an issue in devstack setup17:15
devkulkarniso we need to follow up with the devstack team17:15
devkulkarniI did not get a chance to do that last week17:15
devkulkarniI might try reaching out to them sometime this week17:16
devkulkarniin the mean time, I have pushed a patch to workaround the issue and unblock the gate17:16
devkulkarnivijendar, james_li: could you please take a look at this patch and approve it?17:16
james_liyeah17:16
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/298342/17:16
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devkulkarnithe patch creates a temporary n-dhcp.log in post-gate-hook17:17
devkulkarnionce I get some clarity about the root cause from the devstack team, I will remove this17:17
devkulkarniright now, this will unblock the gate17:18
vijendardevkulkarni: I just did +217:18
devkulkarnivijendar: cool, thanks !!17:18
devkulkarnilet me progress the meeting to the next topic, which have started any ways17:18
devkulkarni#topic Patches for Review17:18
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devkulkarni1) I have updated our docs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301244/17:19
devkulkarnibtw, I have added this: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/solum-development-setup17:19
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devkulkarniif any of you get a chance to verify the steps listed ^^ (either Vagrant or Devstack or both) that would be awesome17:20
devkulkarniif you have improvements for the steps to make things smoother, that will be even more awesome17:20
devkulkarniI want to get to a smooth setup before the austin summit17:20
devkulkarniimo, we are almost there..17:21
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devkulkarnithere are few remaining things that we need to do manually right now (which are outlined in the solum-development-setup wiki page)17:21
devkulkarniif we can automate those as well, that will be really helpful for on-boarding new contributors17:21
devkulkarnion that note, how has been your experience with Solum so far, Ablu?17:22
Abluwell, it was a hard ride without too much experience with devstack and vagrant, but I know have a working snapshot I can rely on in the future :)17:22
AbluBut yeah, merging the manual steps into the vagrant setup would make stuff a lot more error prone17:23
Ablu*a lot less17:23
devkulkarniha ha17:23
devkulkarnilot less error prone17:23
devkulkarniagree17:23
devkulkarniAblu: thanks for the patience17:23
devkulkarniAblu: I am really glad that you have a working setup17:24
devkulkarniAblu: if you have any improvements, please feel free to suggest those via patches, pull requests, or just some code outline17:25
devkulkarnialright.. let me proceed to the next patch for review and talk about that17:25
devkulkarni2) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296644/ —> this one updates the releasenotes to include mitaka release information17:26
devkulkarni3) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296643/ —> and this one does more mitaka release related stuff17:27
devkulkarniboth these patches are currently blocked on the devstack gate getting cleared up17:27
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devkulkarnithis patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298342/ is the workaround that I was talking about earlier regarding clearing up of the devstack gate17:27
devkulkarnijames_li: if you can review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298342/ that will help unblock the gate17:28
james_lilooking17:28
devkulkarnijames_li: thanks17:28
devkulkarniapart from these, there are no outstanding patches to review17:29
devkulkarniour review queue is pretty light right now17:29
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/solum+status:open,n,z17:29
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-solumclient+status:open,n,z17:29
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/solum-dashboard+status:open,n,z17:30
devkulkarniare there any patches that any of you are working on that needs review?17:30
devkulkarniif not, let me move to the next topic17:31
devkulkarni#topic Bug Review17:31
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devkulkarnithere have been no new bugs filed on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/17:31
devkulkarniAblu: if you run into any issues, you can use ^^ to file a bug17:32
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devkulkarniwe also have https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-solumclient/17:32
devkulkarniwhere you can file python-solumclient bugs17:32
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devkulkarniare there any bugs that any of you have ran into recently?17:33
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devkulkarnialright.. if you have ran into any issues/bugs, please use above mentioned links to file the bugs17:35
devkulkarni#topic Open Discussion17:36
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devkulkarni1) Updates from upstream17:36
devkulkarni1) Cross-project sessions17:36
devkulkarnihttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-cross-project-sessions17:36
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devkulkarnithe tuesday during the summit week has been reserved for cross-project meetings and discussions17:36
devkulkarniabove etherpad has list of all the cross project sessions that have been proposed17:37
devkulkarnifolks have voted on different sessions17:37
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devkulkarnithe final agenda will have only selected sessions17:37
devkulkarnimost of these sessions would be interesting imo17:38
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devkulkarniif you are attending summit, I would encourage you to attend these sessions17:38
devkulkarni2) Tempest tests for designate17:38
devkulkarnihttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091295.html17:38
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devkulkarnithis thread is discussing how the designate team is splitting out their functional tests in a separate repository17:39
devkulkarniin solum, we have been looking at using tempest plugin for writing our functional tests17:39
devkulkarnidimtruck has submitted a patch for it:17:39
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/264899/17:40
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devkulkarnione of the things that the tempest team advocates about writing/creating tempest plugin, is to split out the tests in a separate repo (which is what the designate team is proposing)17:40
devkulkarniI don't know yet whether it is a good option for us17:41
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devkulkarnithere are pros/cons of both approaches17:41
devkulkarnijust something that we should keep in mind17:42
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devkulkarniif you have any thoughts about the tempest plugin code for solum, please add your comments to dimtruck's patch17:42
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devkulkarni3) Regarding resource reservations17:43
devkulkarnihttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091390.html17:43
devkulkarniAnother interesting thread this week was resource reservations in openstack17:43
devkulkarniapparently there is a cross project effort to figure out the current state of resource reservation across different openstack projects17:44
devkulkarnicinder team has chimed in on that thread17:44
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devkulkarniin solum, the issue of reservation for infrastructure has not come up directly17:44
devkulkarnibut we do put limits on the number of apps that can be created17:44
devkulkarnithere are also limits on the number of instances to which we can scale an app17:45
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devkulkarniif you are interested in that topic (resource reservation), I would encourage you to keep yourself looped in on that thread17:45
devkulkarni4) Default flavors are getting removed from Nova17:46
devkulkarnihttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091434.html17:46
devkulkarnilooks like nova is getting rid of default flavors17:48
devkulkarniI don't know if it will directly affect us in solum17:48
devkulkarnibut something that I thought you should know17:48
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devkulkarniany other topic for open discussion today?17:49
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james_linone from me17:53
devkulkarnithanks james_li17:53
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devkulkarnialright then17:53
devkulkarnithanks james_li vijendar Ablu for joining the meeting today17:53
devkulkarnisee you next week17:53
devkulkarni#endmeeting17:53
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