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| dtroyer | #startmeeting openstackclient | 13:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 19 13:01:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 13:01 |
| dtroyer | Anyone here for our first new-time meeting? | 13:01 |
| rtheis | hi | 13:01 |
| dtroyer | \o/ I am not alone! ;) | 13:02 |
| dtroyer | which means that my even/odd week math finally worked | 13:02 |
| dtroyer | well, let's start and see if anyone else shows up | 13:04 |
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| dtroyer | #topic reviews | 13:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 13:04 | |
| dtroyer | anything to talk about rtheis? | 13:04 |
| rtheis | dtroyer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307629/ | 13:05 |
| dtroyer | right… I am concerned about not breaking (or un-breaking?) non-table formatters here | 13:06 |
| rtheis | should we drop most formatting if non-table? | 13:06 |
| reedip_ | Hi! | 13:06 |
| dtroyer | reedip_: hi | 13:06 |
| dtroyer | rtheis: maybe so? | 13:06 |
| dtroyer | part thinking in that case, especially for JSON, is that it's likely to be machine read anyway | 13:07 |
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| amotoki | from my experience, if json format is specified, there is no need to use a formatter. | 13:07 |
| rtheis | dtroyer, yeah which makes me think we should format dicts or list as we do | 13:08 |
| rtheis | *shouldn't | 13:08 |
| dtroyer | I've been down this path before, wanting to teack cliff to know the difference... | 13:08 |
| dtroyer | https://review.openstack.org/287536 | 13:08 |
| rtheis | yep, that's the one I was thinking about | 13:09 |
| dtroyer | that provides a way for us to know when to skip it altogether, and I think takes care of my worries | 13:09 |
| dtroyer | I'll see if dhellmann, stevemar, etc will have another look at it | 13:10 |
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| rtheis | sounds good | 13:10 |
| amotoki | i like the flag :) | 13:10 |
| dtroyer | ok, other reviews? | 13:11 |
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| rtheis | none from me | 13:11 |
| dtroyer | I am still a bit behind, my apologies, the osc-lib work has soaked up a lot of time | 13:11 |
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| dtroyer | #topic bugs | 13:12 |
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| dtroyer | I am even further behind on culling the bug list, does any need priority attention? | 13:12 |
| rtheis | I don't recall any critical bugs | 13:13 |
| reedip_ | none from my end | 13:13 |
| dtroyer | ok, so then we move on | 13:14 |
| dtroyer | #topic osc-lib | 13:14 |
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| dtroyer | We have officially added the osc-lib repo to the OpenStackClient project, it is populated and I've started pushing in the initial changes | 13:15 |
| dtroyer | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/osc-lib,n,z | 13:15 |
| rtheis | nice | 13:15 |
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| rtheis | dtroyer: sorry, I haven't had much time to review that work | 13:15 |
| dtroyer | I've been a little free with approving stuff for a couple of days, but it's time to get back to the usual two +2 to merge now, as from here on more of the work will have opinions attached to it | 13:16 |
| rtheis | sounds good | 13:16 |
| reedip_ | +1 | 13:17 |
| dtroyer | the shell refactor does more than I would have liked, but the tests were a mess to begin with | 13:17 |
| * dtroyer looks in mirror | 13:17 | |
| dtroyer | I do have an OSC branch that is tracking this work | 13:17 |
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| dtroyer | https://github.com/dtroyer/python-openstackclient/tree/osc-lib | 13:18 |
| dtroyer | my plan is to not merge any osc-lib bits into OSC until we are working on the 3.0 stuff | 13:19 |
| dtroyer | any questions on osc-lib? | 13:19 |
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| rtheis | so we need to be aware of dual maintenance until then? | 13:20 |
| dtroyer | yes | 13:20 |
| dtroyer | I'm trying to keep an eye on that… for example, I've already taken bits of Navid's ksa patch into osc-lib | 13:21 |
| rtheis | ok, I'll keep an eye out too | 13:21 |
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| dtroyer | fortunately, the bulk of the work was copy + s/// so it'll be easy to port stuff over | 13:22 |
| dtroyer | ClientManager and OpenStackShell are the two major exceptions | 13:22 |
| dtroyer | ok, if nothing else… | 13:23 |
| dtroyer | #topic releases | 13:23 |
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| dtroyer | I think we are going to be able to stick to the tentative release schedule we talked about in Austin | 13:24 |
| dtroyer | which is basically do 2.5.0 before the end of May | 13:24 |
| dtroyer | and 3.0 before N-2, which IIRC is in late June | 13:24 |
| rtheis | sounds good | 13:25 |
| rtheis | is there a list of TODOs being tracked to handle in 3.0? | 13:25 |
| dtroyer | 3.0 will include the package name change (from python-openstackclient to openstackclient), osc-lib, the floating/fixed ip commands, and other smaller breaking-ish things | 13:25 |
| rtheis | ok | 13:26 |
| dtroyer | #action dtroyer to put the list of 3.0 bits into etherpad | 13:26 |
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| rtheis | thanks dtroyer | 13:26 |
| amotoki | what is the background of renaming to openstackclient? | 13:26 |
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| dtroyer | the 'python-' prefix is generally used for libraries, which is why the project lcient packages have it. | 13:27 |
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| dtroyer | We just copied them without realizing that a stand-alone command should not have it | 13:27 |
| amotoki | agree. we don't need to care how CLI is implemented. | 13:27 |
| dtroyer | we're not planing to rename the repo, just the package published to PyPI | 13:27 |
| tangchen_ | Hi, guys, I'm late. | 13:28 |
| dtroyer | welcome tangchen_! | 13:28 |
| rtheis | hi tangchen_ | 13:28 |
| tangchen_ | Hi~~ | 13:28 |
| dtroyer | oh, the other major thing I didn't list for 3.0 is the ksa/auth rework | 13:29 |
| dtroyer | totally getting ksc out of the auth picture, it'll only be used in OSc for the identity CRUD | 13:29 |
| dtroyer | (this iss Navid's patch I referred to earlier) | 13:30 |
| dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 13:30 |
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| dtroyer | What else do y'all want to talk about? | 13:31 |
| Na_ | hi | 13:31 |
| Na_ | i create a new bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+spec/neutron-services-transition today | 13:31 |
| tangchen_ | I'd like to ask something neutronclient | 13:31 |
| tangchen_ | Oh, yes | 13:31 |
| tangchen_ | Na_ asked me about it today. | 13:31 |
| Na_ | i want to know is there any plan about neutron-*aas CLIs transition | 13:32 |
| dtroyer | Na_: what do you need from OSC to do that work? | 13:32 |
| rtheis | Na_: those currently belong in python-neutronclient | 13:32 |
| rtheis | as OSC plugins | 13:32 |
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| amotoki | we will have osc plugins for neutron service commands | 13:32 |
| dtroyer | My understanding is that those are all plugins that will be in either neutronclient repo or independant | 13:32 |
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| Na_ | rtheis: the patch you submit about add osc plugin to neutronclient has no update for about 2 weeks | 13:32 |
| dtroyer | ok, seems like we all have the same understand there | 13:32 |
| amotoki | we will plan to have them in python-neutronclient repo now. | 13:33 |
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| rtheis | Na yes, I haven't had time to get back to that. | 13:33 |
| Na_ | rtheis: if your patch is not merged, i can not do next work | 13:33 |
| amotoki | i must review it too. | 13:33 |
| Na_ | rtheis: i need finished neutron-dynamic-routing CLI transition before N-1 | 13:34 |
| Na_ | amotoki: pls, thanks | 13:34 |
| rtheis | Na_ feel free to take over the patch set | 13:34 |
| amotoki | related to neutron stuff, btw, does anyone know the conclusion on discussion whether nova admin commands should exist in osc? | 13:34 |
| amotoki | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/093955.html | 13:35 |
| amotoki | if not, I'd like to ask it in -dev list. | 13:35 |
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| Na_ | rtheis: ok, i need time to learn it | 13:36 |
| dtroyer | amotoki: I don't think that thread came to any changes in the current practice re separating admin out of OSC for the existing APIs | 13:36 |
| dtroyer | policy makes anything we base on the defaults subject to deployment change | 13:37 |
| Na_ | rtheis: amotoki: tangchen_: thanks your help | 13:37 |
| tangchen_ | Na_: np :) | 13:37 |
| dtroyer | amotoki: if you have a more specific question fro the ML, feel free to raise it | 13:38 |
| rtheis | amotoki: there is a patch set that one may consider admin currently in the queue: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315834/ | 13:38 |
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| amotoki | dtroyer: thanks. I am wondering where neutron admin commands should go. | 13:38 |
| dtroyer | so far we are erroring on the side of inclusion for the existing APIs | 13:38 |
| dtroyer | so "things pertaining to the Network API go in the OSc repo, others are plugins" is my default response to that | 13:39 |
| amotoki | my current vote is same too. | 13:39 |
| dtroyer | also, nothing vendor-specific goes into OSC | 13:40 |
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| amotoki | agree too. neutornclient repo already push out vendor stuff. | 13:40 |
| tangchen_ | BTW, about the glanceclient | 13:41 |
| tangchen_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+spec/migrate-glanceclient-to-osc | 13:41 |
| tangchen_ | I asked glance team, and they agreed to start the work. :) | 13:42 |
| tangchen_ | just for your info. | 13:42 |
| dtroyer | good news! | 13:42 |
| rtheis | nice | 13:42 |
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| dtroyer | glanceclient has been high on my list for SDK migration for a long time, due to the unique dependencies it has | 13:42 |
| dtroyer | we can't merge any of that though until we have an SDK 1.0 release | 13:43 |
| dtroyer | we have the network exception to that rule because it is all new work | 13:43 |
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| briancurtin | dtroyer: i’m quite close to merging the compute refactor for what will turn into the 1.0 final API. i can do glance next if people want to get a head start on integration leading up to 1.0 | 13:44 |
| dtroyer | that is great to hear briancurtin | 13:44 |
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| tangchen_ | OK, but do we have any idea when will the sdk 1.0 release ? | 13:45 |
| briancurtin | tangchen_: “soon” - i’m not doing estimates anymore | 13:45 |
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| tangchen_ | braincurtin: Hi, I'm sorry I don't quite understand what you said about 1.0 final API | 13:46 |
| rtheis | looking for my list of todos for OSC network commands ... | 13:46 |
| rtheis | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-openstackclient | 13:46 |
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| tangchen_ | bgiancurtin: Is the work on the sdks side ? | 13:46 |
| briancurtin | yes. | 13:46 |
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| rtheis | See "Overview Transition to SDK 1.0" for some of the things wee need to do on OSC side to handle SDK 1.0 | 13:46 |
| tangchen_ | bgiancurtin, sorry for the name | 13:46 |
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| tangchen_ | rtheis, bgiancurtin: OK, thx :) | 13:47 |
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| dtroyer | any other topics? | 13:48 |
| tangchen_ | OK, I have nothing to say. | 13:48 |
| rtheis | nothing else | 13:48 |
| amotoki | none from me | 13:48 |
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| dtroyer | well then, let's have 10 extra minutes to get a snack! | 13:49 |
| dtroyer | thank you everyone! | 13:50 |
| rtheis | thanks | 13:50 |
| tangchen_ | thx. :) | 13:50 |
| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 13:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 19 13:50:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-05-19-13.01.html | 13:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-05-19-13.01.txt | 13:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-05-19-13.01.log.html | 13:50 |
| amotoki | thanks | 13:50 |
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| egafford | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 19 14:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is egafford. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
| egafford | o/ | 14:00 |
| egafford | Hi all! | 14:00 |
| Poornima | Hi everyone | 14:00 |
| crobertsrh | hello/ | 14:00 |
| egafford | #topic News / updates | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:01 | |
| Poornima | oh chairman is egafford :) | 14:01 |
| egafford | Poornima: true this time around. | 14:01 |
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| * egafford has been writing up a spec for the next stages of the Great Image Generation Push. Hopefully I'll have those posted by next week. Other than that, bunch of reviews. | 14:02 | |
| egafford | What's everyone else up to? | 14:02 |
| crobertsrh | just reviews for me lately | 14:02 |
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| huichun | Reviewing patches this week | 14:03 |
| Poornima | reviewing patches for HDP2.4 and api v2 | 14:03 |
| tmckay | I have been consumed with other things, but hopefully soon I'll have more time for reviews | 14:03 |
| mionkin | i finished research about launching kerberos with cloudera | 14:05 |
| elmiko | o/ | 14:05 |
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| egafford | Cool; sounds like we should be able to crush our review queue handily at least. :) | 14:05 |
| egafford | mionkin: Nice! | 14:05 |
| Poornima | elmiko, o/ | 14:05 |
| elmiko | i've been looking at the oozie hardcoded password bug, sadly it's going to require some heavy lifting to get it fixed | 14:05 |
| elmiko | we need to rewrite how we inject the sql file to create the passwords, so... it's going to take some time | 14:06 |
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| egafford | elmiko: Yeah, looks like it's much deeper than most from the comments. | 14:06 |
| elmiko | hey Poornima =) | 14:06 |
| elmiko | egafford: yea, i'm bummed about it | 14:06 |
| egafford | No action items from last time, so last chance for updates going once... | 14:07 |
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| egafford | Twice... | 14:07 |
| egafford | #topic Review priorities | 14:07 |
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| egafford | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-review-priorities | 14:07 |
| egafford | We're starting to use this again to track higher-prio reviews, to try to speed along key features. | 14:08 |
| elmiko | ack, will take a look | 14:08 |
| egafford | Does anyone have patches they believe should be on the sheet for expedited review? | 14:08 |
| egafford | For the minutes, the patches up for expedited review at the moment are: | 14:09 |
| egafford | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304679/ | 14:09 |
| egafford | MapR failure at liberty. | 14:10 |
| egafford | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315024/ | 14:10 |
| egafford | Ambari on Centos7 (Red Hatters take note :) ) | 14:10 |
| egafford | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316010/ | 14:10 |
| egafford | Fix to remove config groups in Ambari on cluster scaledown. | 14:10 |
| egafford | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201617/ | 14:11 |
| egafford | And finally Ambari-Hive integration. | 14:11 |
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| egafford | So if we do have time for reviews, those are good to hit (also any specs at this stage of the cycle, as that'll help larger features get in more reasonably.) | 14:12 |
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| egafford | #topic API v2 progress | 14:12 |
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| egafford | elmiko: How's it going on the v2 front? | 14:13 |
| elmiko | slowly, but forward! | 14:13 |
| egafford | That's half of what we like to hear! | 14:13 |
| elmiko | Poornima and pgadiya have been making some progress on tackling the endpoint changes | 14:13 |
| elmiko | and iirc Poornima is looking into the job cancel fix next | 14:13 |
| elmiko | i still need to write some specs for the larger work | 14:14 |
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| elmiko | so, overall, slow but steady progress | 14:14 |
| Poornima | since Rename job execution and templates endpoints is merged looking into Re factor cancel job process | 14:14 |
| egafford | elmiko: Nice. Do you think the specs will likely start review in the N1 timeframe? | 14:14 |
| egafford | Poornima: :) | 14:15 |
| elmiko | egafford: probably n2 is more likely | 14:15 |
| egafford | elmiko: Seems reasonable. N1 is incredibly soon, btw (May 31- June 2). | 14:16 |
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| elmiko | yea | 14:17 |
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| egafford | #topic Open discussion | 14:17 |
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| elmiko | and i have been swamped with internal stuff | 14:17 |
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| egafford | elmiko: That seems to be the way of most of us who aren't vgridnev. | 14:17 |
| elmiko | hehe | 14:18 |
| egafford | Anything else to talk about? | 14:18 |
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| Poornima | I have been facing issues while creating clusters any help / pointers to speed that will be appreciated | 14:18 |
| elmiko | i would like to talk about the oozie password fix, but maybe that would be better for when we have more mirantis folks around? | 14:18 |
| elmiko | Poornima: what issues? | 14:18 |
| egafford | elmiko: Yeah, possible. We can talk about it now, though. | 14:18 |
| Poornima | elmiko, the creature creation fails via dashboard | 14:19 |
| Poornima | cluster* | 14:19 |
| tmckay | Poornima, do you have specific errors from the dashboard or the sahara log? | 14:20 |
| egafford | Poornima: What's the error message? (Is it "No valid host was found: not enough hosts available?" It is about 3/4 of the time...) | 14:20 |
| elmiko | heh, you guys beat me to it ;P | 14:20 |
| tmckay | if debug logging is on for horizon/sahara, there should be something useful there | 14:20 |
| tmckay | and is this a setup where a local dev instance of sahara/horizon is pointed at an openstack somewhere else? | 14:21 |
| egafford | Poornima: Yeah, sadly the messaging in Horizon itself is way too brief to get a decent diagnosis most of the time. You always have to go to logs. | 14:21 |
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| Poornima | tmckay, egafford i have using devstack+sahara swpan with stack user | 14:22 |
| NikitaKonovalov | Poornima: what is the hardware spec for the machie you are running it on? | 14:22 |
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| Poornima | NikitaKonovalov, its fedora23 | 14:23 |
| Poornima | Namem1.xlarge | 14:23 |
| Poornima | VCPUs8 | 14:23 |
| Poornima | Root Disk160 GB | 14:23 |
| Poornima | Ephemeral Disk0 GB | 14:23 |
| Poornima | Total Disk160 GB | 14:23 |
| Poornima | RAM16,384 MB | 14:23 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | ok it looks like enough power to run 3-4 VMs | 14:24 |
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| egafford | Poornima: Ah, are you trying to run devstack nested in a VM (from the name)? | 14:24 |
| Poornima | egafford, yes | 14:25 |
| Poornima | Error: name: u'Cluster template' is not a 'valid_name_hostname' Error ID: 27d20577-9a53-4096-9c16-33321f16dc53 | 14:26 |
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| egafford | Poornima: Hm; that certainly seems more like an input validation error than a nested virt issue. | 14:27 |
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| Poornima | this is the recent error which i encountered may be i need to dig deep | 14:28 |
| egafford | Poornima: We definitely want to help, but does anyone have any other topics for the meeting? (Troubleshooting in #openstack-sahara is always an option. :) ) | 14:28 |
| Poornima | egafford, sure will come up with more insides :) | 14:29 |
| egafford | Poornima: We can take a look at your inputs and see if we can understand. | 14:29 |
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| Poornima | thanks for the pointers | 14:29 |
| elmiko | i'm curious about how we might solve the oozie password issue | 14:29 |
| tmckay | oh, you can't use a space | 14:30 |
| tmckay | the name of the cluster template has to be something that can be a valid hostname | 14:30 |
| elmiko | i'm thinking we will need to store the password in the keystore and keep a reference in the cluster object. but obviously, this will add a bunch to our internal model (i'm assuming we won't expose it through rest) | 14:30 |
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| tmckay | If the name of the cluster is really "Cluster template" it won't work (unless I'm missing something) | 14:31 |
| Poornima | tmckay, so no space | 14:31 |
| Poornima | using this guideline http://docs.openstack.org/developer/sahara/horizon/dashboard.user.guide.html | 14:31 |
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| Poornima | tmckay++ that helped the cluster was created | 14:36 |
| egafford | Poornima: Hooray! | 14:37 |
| tmckay | yay! | 14:37 |
| Poornima | egafford, clap clap :D | 14:37 |
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| egafford | elmiko: Are you thinking about a generalized keystore reference feature, or something really specific (do you think there's likely to be reuse?) | 14:39 |
| elmiko | oh, i just meant the external key manager stuff | 14:40 |
| elmiko | like, we store the random oozie password with the key manager, record the id in the cluster object, then use that password when the create oozie mysql script is deployed | 14:40 |
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| egafford | Right. That doesn't seem like a huge model change, though it does seem really specific. | 14:43 |
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| elmiko | yea, and we might need to repeat this pattern for other hardcoded pws | 14:43 |
| elmiko | i guess this may require a spec to address the fix correctly | 14:43 |
| egafford | Yeah, seems likely. | 14:43 |
| elmiko | too much work, not enough time ... le sigh | 14:44 |
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| egafford | "This is a secret that is not personally a top-level field." does seem like it could come up again for sure. | 14:44 |
| elmiko | right, maybe some field in the cluster model for "passwords", which doesn't get exposed in the rest | 14:45 |
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| egafford | Sure sure; and then anything that needed it could just pull its key from the map. | 14:45 |
| egafford | It'd be a bit of a doc challenge to ensure folks used the right keys through the CLI, but doable. | 14:46 |
| elmiko | it may not even need to be exposed from the cli side. these are mostly internal passwords that are used to setup the services on the nodes. | 14:46 |
| elmiko | eventually we probably want to provide a feature for users to get access to those passwords | 14:47 |
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| egafford | elmiko: Probably, but eventually may be a ways off. | 14:48 |
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| elmiko | yea... | 14:48 |
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| egafford | Anything else for this meeting? | 14:49 |
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| egafford | Going once... | 14:49 |
| egafford | Going twice... | 14:50 |
| egafford | #endmeeting | 14:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 19 14:50:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-05-19-14.00.html | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-05-19-14.00.txt | 14:50 |
| elmiko | thanks egafford | 14:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-05-19-14.00.log.html | 14:50 |
| Poornima | thank you everyone for your time | 14:50 |
| egafford | Bye all; thanks! o/ | 14:50 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 14:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 19 14:59:55 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 14:59 |
| carl_baldwin | hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| tidwellr | hi | 15:00 |
| pavel_bondar | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #chair carl_baldwin | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: carl_baldwin mlavalle | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #chair tidwellr | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: carl_baldwin mlavalle tidwellr | 15:00 |
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| AndroUser2 | Hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | hi everybody | 15:00 |
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| mlavalle | Meeting agenda is in our new shiny etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-l3-subteam | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | Newton-1 is just 2 weeks away | 15:02 |
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| mlavalle | any other annoucments from the team? | 15:02 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | Not from me. | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | First up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1543094 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1543094 in neutron "[Pluggable IPAM] DB exceeded retry limit (RetryRequest) on create_router call" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ryan Tidwell (ryan-tidwell) | 15:03 |
| tidwellr | hi | 15:04 |
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| mlavalle | 2 patchsets merged, right? | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | this one is pending, as far as I understand: | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292207/ | 15:04 |
| tidwellr | yes, the unit and tempest tests have been adjusted to not assume any particular allocation stategey | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | That was a lot of work. Nice job! | 15:05 |
| tidwellr | I'm now seeing the following issue across various jobs (http://paste.openstack.org/show/497738/) with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292207/ | 15:06 |
| tidwellr | this is failure showing up across different tests every time it gets checked by jenkins | 15:06 |
| tidwellr | still working through that | 15:07 |
| haleyb | tidwellr: i've actually seen that error before, tried a revert of the change but it didn't remove the failure | 15:07 |
| tidwellr | haleyb: are you giving me the good news that my change isn't causing this? ;) | 15:08 |
| pavel_bondar | tidwellr: when did you see it first time? | 15:08 |
| tidwellr | it's been showing up since I first proposed the patch | 15:08 |
| tidwellr | as far as I can recall | 15:08 |
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| haleyb | tidwellr: i guess so. that failure has been intermittent for a few weeks for me, just can't reproduce it at-will | 15:09 |
| tidwellr | haleyb: it seems to happen somewhere with every recheck on this patch | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | I've also seen it outside of the context of this patch. | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: Is there a bug already filed for this issue? | 15:10 |
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| tidwellr | there must be something this patch does that exacerbates the issue, maybe we can learn something from diving in on this patch | 15:10 |
| haleyb | carl_baldwin: i think so, i'll look. That error message was added in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281116/ | 15:10 |
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| haleyb | i'll look in logstash too | 15:11 |
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| tidwellr | if we can get past this then we can get on with merging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292207/ | 15:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | That'd be great. I'll spend a little time looking in to this today. | 15:13 |
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| tidwellr | carl_baldwin haleyb: thanks for the insights | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: Let me know if you find the bug. | 15:14 |
| haleyb | has 9.5K hits in logstash in last 24 hours | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | yikes! | 15:14 |
| tidwellr | haleyb: wow! | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | I think we need to bump this bug up in priority and call it a gate failure. | 15:15 |
| tidwellr | haleyb: how much in the last 48 hours? | 15:15 |
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| haleyb | 20K | 15:17 |
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| tidwellr | wow, and I thought it was an issue introduced by the ipam patches I've been proposing | 15:18 |
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| carl_baldwin | OK, let's first make sure we know the bug number for this and then stick the logstash queries in there. | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | Then, I'll start looking in to it. | 15:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | My quick search through launchpad didn't find the bug. | 15:19 |
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| mlavalle | tidwellr: should we move on? | 15:20 |
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| carl_baldwin | haleyb: let me know if I should file a bug. | 15:20 |
| tidwellr | I have nothing else to add | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: We can move on and take this out of band. | 15:20 |
| haleyb | carl_baldwin: i didn't find a bug either | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | Next bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1564335 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1564335 in neutron " [Pluggable IPAM] delete subnet in ml2 plugin does not comply with pluggable ipam (deletes ip allocations directly from db)" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 15:21 |
| pavel_bondar | hi | 15:21 |
| pavel_bondar | I have uploaded new version of patch recently | 15:21 |
| pavel_bondar | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300984/ | 15:22 |
| pavel_bondar | It fixes the first part of the issue | 15:23 |
| pavel_bondar | To address the second part (correct SLAAC deallocation) more discussion might be needed. | 15:23 |
| pavel_bondar | Currently via update_port we can not deallocate addresses for auto-addressed subnets | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll review this patch. | 15:24 |
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| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: why is that? | 15:25 |
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| pavel_bondar | Currently and previously if auto_addressed ip is not present in fixed_ips list it is not deleted on update | 15:26 |
| pavel_bondar | this worked this way for a while | 15:26 |
| pavel_bondar | so I am not sure that it is save to silently change this befavior | 15:26 |
| pavel_bondar | *behavior | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | So, the auto IP from the subnet being deleted is not passed in fixed_ips on update and so it isn't deleted? | 15:27 |
| * carl_baldwin just trying to understand. | 15:27 | |
| pavel_bondar | no | 15:28 |
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| pavel_bondar | probably we can discuss it in main neutron channel later, I assume it will take a lot of time | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Could we take some time after the meeting to discuss this? | 15:29 |
| pavel_bondar | yeah, sure | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Let me know what time works for you. | 15:29 |
| pavel_bondar | in 1 hour from now | 15:30 |
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| mlavalle | ok, we'll move on... | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | Next bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1566383 | 15:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1566383 in neutron "The creation fip does not endure restarting of l3-agent" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: ok | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: you are up | 15:31 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: that series is in master, just doing backports now to stable/mitaka | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: so I will remove it from our list, ok? | 15:32 |
| haleyb | yes, we can remove from agent if it's there | 15:32 |
| haleyb | s/agent/agenda | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | cool | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | moving on | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | The last one for today is a new one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1581918 | 15:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1581918 in neutron "Sometimes DHCP agent spawns dnsmasq incorrectly" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton has proposed this fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316615/ | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | it seems ready to merge | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | anything else to comment? | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll have another look at the patch set. | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | Nothing more. | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | #topic Routed Networks | 15:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Routed Networks (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:36 | |
| carl_baldwin | Hi | 15:36 |
| irenab | mlavalle: you skipped the RFE section | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | I feel like this is moving along well. But, I've been distracted from it for the last day. | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | :( | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | I did respin the Nova spec. | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | irenab: we'll go back to it when the routed networks update ends | 15:36 |
| irenab | ok | 15:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think we need to let Nova know about the updates. | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | I also have a patch up for IPAM on create port with binding info | 15:38 |
| carl_baldwin | I think it is ready to go. | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 15:38 |
| carl_baldwin | But, we need mlavalle 's patch first. | 15:38 |
| carl_baldwin | ... which I've failed to review for the last 24-48 hours. | 15:38 |
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| mlavalle | I addressed your comments last night. I also completed all the unit tests. | 15:38 |
| carl_baldwin | Actually, the Nova spec has two more TODOs to flesh out. On testing and documentation. I wanted a little feedback from Nova on this. | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | No worries, I introduced a small failure in the unit tests last night. I know what the problem is and I will roll an update in 1 hour or so | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks, I'll have a look today. | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Ping me when the update is ready. | 15:39 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: will do | 15:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | After that, I need to complete IPAM when port binding info is first provided on port update. I'm about half way through that, I think. | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | That's all from me. | 15:40 |
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| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | #topic RFE's | 15:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFE's (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:41 | |
| mlavalle | irenab: you are up. Thanks for the patience | 15:41 |
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| irenab | thank you | 15:41 |
| irenab | I wanted to provide short update on ▪https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1566191 | 15:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1566191 in neutron "[RFE] Allow multiple networks with FIP range to be associated with Tenant router" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:42 |
| irenab | after discussion with yamamoto, he did modification on this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292318/ | 15:42 |
| irenab | The proposed way should both allow reference implementation keep the existing single FIP support and allow midonet plugin to allow multiple FIPs | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | irenab: I'll take a look. | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | Do you have a tl;dr summary? | 15:44 |
| irenab | Regardless of this fix, if the use case is interesting to other plugins, we may keep discussion at RFE and make the implementation more complete | 15:44 |
| irenab | Basically, it sets flag if to fail or not at validation phase | 15:44 |
| irenab | the flag is to_fail by default and will be set to not_fail at midonet plugin | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | that makes sense | 15:45 |
| irenab | this will allow existing integration to keep working, while we may provide more robust support in Newton | 15:45 |
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| irenab | Please let me know how to proceed with RFE | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | irenab: My concern is that it is not discoverable. But, maybe that's ok. | 15:46 |
| irenab | with current fix, it will behave gracefully if not supported and we may add discovery in Newton. Do you agree? | 15:47 |
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| irenab | I think the current fix provides sort of win win :- | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | irenab: We'll take this to the patch. I don't want to make this too hard. Sorry if it has been painful. | 15:48 |
| irenab | carl_baldwin: thanks, lets keep discussion there | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | irenab: ok, thanks! | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | ok, for the sake of time, let's move on | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | #topic BGP Dynamic Routing | 15:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BGP Dynamic Routing (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:50 | |
| mlavalle | tidwellr: you are up again | 15:50 |
| tidwellr | the only thing I had was a quick question regarding the process for handling RFE's | 15:50 |
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| Na_ | hi | 15:50 |
| tidwellr | we're starting to see some RFE's related to BGP, and I'm sitting on a couple myself, perhaps I can take this offline with carl_baldwin | 15:51 |
| tidwellr | just not sure what to do with them at this point | 15:51 |
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| Na_ | tidwellr: About the CLI transition, no progress so far, but vikram and I taked with amotoki today, he will help to review Richard's patch about adding osc plugin to python-neutronclient, if this patch is merge, we can start the CLI transition work, moving bgp CLI from neutron to openstack. | 15:52 |
| tidwellr | we've almost got the repository stood up with devstack and gate_hook in place, so we're almost ready to get rolling | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: we need to make another pass at them. Figure out which ones will require changes to the neutron repo and which ones are BGP only. Then, prioritize. | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Maybe we can shoot to have them all in order by next week's drivers' meeting on Thursday? | 15:52 |
| * carl_baldwin doesn't think he can help get them in order by today. | 15:53 | |
| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: sure, next week is fine | 15:53 |
| tidwellr | we're not ready to get rolling with development in the repo quite yet | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Could you find some time to discuss it before then? | 15:54 |
| tidwellr | I have time | 15:54 |
| tidwellr | I should get my RFE's captured as well | 15:54 |
| tidwellr | Na_: thanks for the update | 15:55 |
| tidwellr | that's all I had | 15:55 |
| Na_ | tidwellr: Richard is busy, maybe we need to take over his patch if he still have no time this week. But I think, since the CLIs keep in python-neutronclient repo, we do not have to meet the target N-1 because it has dependency on OSC transition. It should align with OSC transiton's plan. | 15:55 |
| mlavalle | ok, we'll move on | 15:56 |
| mlavalle | #topic FWaaS | 15:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:56 | |
| mlavalle | Anyone from the FWaaS team around? | 15:56 |
| SridarK | Hi | 15:56 |
| mlavalle | Hi :-) | 15:56 |
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| SridarK | We are looking thru the spec that njohnston filed | 15:56 |
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| SridarK | need some more time to have a model in place that we can discuss with u folks | 15:57 |
| SridarK | we will shoot to have something for next week | 15:57 |
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| mlavalle | SridarK: ok, we'll keep you in next week's agenda | 15:57 |
| SridarK | mlavalle: thx | 15:57 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open discussion | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:58 | |
| Na_ | hi | 15:58 |
| mlavalle | Just a couple of minutes left. Anything to bring to the team? | 15:58 |
| steve_ruan | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1525059 | 15:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1525059 in neutron "[RFE] Add support for external vxlan encapsulation to neutron router" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Na Zhu (nazhu) | 15:58 |
| steve_ruan | Need for review | 15:58 |
| steve_ruan | please help, thanks | 15:59 |
| mlavalle | steve_ruan: do you have gerrit link? | 15:59 |
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| steve_ruan | 4 patches, | 15:59 |
| steve_ruan | all link is attached this bug | 15:59 |
| mlavalle | ok, thanks | 15:59 |
| mlavalle | we ran out of time | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | bye | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 19 16:00:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-05-19-14.59.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-05-19-14.59.txt | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | Thanks! | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-05-19-14.59.log.html | 16:00 |
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| elmiko | #startmeeting api wg | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 19 16:00:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api wg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 16:00 |
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| elmiko | hi | 16:00 |
| cdent | do we have any other participants? | 16:00 |
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| elmiko | excellent question =) | 16:01 |
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| elmiko | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:02 |
| elmiko | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:02 |
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| elmiko | since we didn't meet last week, these are still good | 16:02 |
| elmiko | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-05-05-16.00.html | 16:02 |
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| elmiko | i did mine, and i/think/ etoews covered his as well | 16:02 |
| cdent | yes, I believe he did | 16:03 |
| elmiko | cool | 16:03 |
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| elmiko | hmm, need to groom this agenda slightly | 16:03 |
| elmiko | #topic guidelines | 16:05 |
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| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:05 |
| elmiko | is there anything we need to freeze? | 16:05 |
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| cdent | oh hey, there are new things there I hadn't seen yet | 16:05 |
| elmiko | we should just merge this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312970/1 | 16:05 |
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| cdent | done | 16:06 |
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| elmiko | thanks | 16:07 |
| elmiko | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312971 | 16:07 |
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| elmiko | that seems easy too, but i like the suggestion | 16:07 |
| elmiko | should we put this up for freeze? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281511 | 16:08 |
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| cdent | I've fixed 312971 in place | 16:09 |
| elmiko | ah, excellent! | 16:09 |
| cdent | so we can probably merge that one too, if you liked to do those honors? | 16:10 |
| elmiko | this is probably ready for freeze as well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301846 | 16:10 |
| elmiko | sure | 16:10 |
| elmiko | ok then | 16:10 |
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| elmiko | i think we should propose these for freeze, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301846 , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281511 | 16:11 |
| cdent | on metadata changes, there are still some unresolved comments on etag stuff, but maybe not worth fussing | 16:11 |
| elmiko | yea, we might as well put them up | 16:11 |
| cdent | yeah more eyes would be good | 16:11 |
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| elmiko | do you want to take the action or shall i? | 16:12 |
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| elmiko | ok, i'll take it ;P | 16:13 |
| cdent | sorry, I'm being a bad multitasker :( | 16:13 |
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| cdent | but yes, if you could do the honors that would be great | 16:14 |
| elmiko | #action elmiko propose 301846 and 281511 for freeze | 16:14 |
| elmiko | no worries, these are pretty low bandwidth actions for me | 16:14 |
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| elmiko | the other guidelines look like they need some work | 16:15 |
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| elmiko | #topic weekly email | 16:16 |
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| elmiko | not sure if we want to dive into this, but i wanted to mention it | 16:16 |
| cdent | agree that other guidelines need work | 16:17 |
| cdent | yeah, weekly email a) great idea b) hard to do | 16:17 |
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| elmiko | right | 16:17 |
| elmiko | i wonder if we could start by coming up with a template or something? | 16:17 |
| elmiko | maybe annegentle would share some secrets learned from the "What's up doc" emails =) | 16:18 |
| annegentle | heya | 16:18 |
| elmiko | =D | 16:18 |
| elmiko | we're talking about the possibility of doing a weekly email from the api-wg. any advice you might have to share? | 16:18 |
| annegentle | I do think that ML post regularly does help, since people know they can look it up later for a point-in-time. | 16:18 |
| annegentle | I think you could have a simple 3-header template. Stuff in progress, stuff to think about and join in the discussion (needs input), status/done. | 16:19 |
| annegentle | that's a terrible outline :) | 16:19 |
| annegentle | but you hopefully get the gist | 16:20 |
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| elmiko | do you use a template with the doc emails? | 16:20 |
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| cdent | it's a good structure: simple, meaningful | 16:20 |
| annegentle | yeah it was simply a text file with headers | 16:20 |
| annegentle | super low tech | 16:20 |
| elmiko | ok, cool | 16:20 |
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| elmiko | should we make a wiki page to iterate on the template? | 16:21 |
| annegentle | one thing lana moved to was a weekly etherpad update for everyone to add to by a certain day | 16:21 |
| annegentle | then she can include that info in the weekly email | 16:21 |
| elmiko | ah, nice. that's a good idea | 16:22 |
| annegentle | so for docs, it's a specialty team etherpad | 16:22 |
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| elmiko | ok, so now the tough question. do you want to take this or shall i? (cdent) | 16:24 |
| elmiko | probably makes sense for me to drive it for now | 16:24 |
| elmiko | unless you want it | 16:24 |
| cdent | elmiko: given your extraction I figured it would have to be me, but given my complete awash in resource providers it being you is nice | 16:25 |
| * cdent is frusrated | 16:25 | |
| elmiko | ok, i'll get the ball rolling then we can figure out who does the weekly mails later | 16:25 |
| cdent | so frustrated I'm spelling even worse than usual | 16:25 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:25 |
| cdent | +1 | 16:25 |
| elmiko | #action elmiko setup wiki page with some details about weekly email from api-wg | 16:26 |
| elmiko | that sound good? | 16:26 |
| elmiko | i'll incorprate an etherpad for suggestions and a template for the email | 16:26 |
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| cdent | ossum | 16:29 |
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| elmiko | ok | 16:29 |
| elmiko | #topic APIImpact | 16:29 |
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| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+AND+(message:ApiImpact+OR+message:APIImpact),n,z | 16:29 |
| elmiko | not sure if we want to address anything, but i want to give for any reviews that lurkers may want to bring up ;) | 16:30 |
| cdent | I'm way behind on these | 16:30 |
| elmiko | same | 16:30 |
| elmiko | and this is one of the points we have about clarifying how APIImpact is sued | 16:30 |
| elmiko | er, used | 16:30 |
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| elmiko | ok, then | 16:32 |
| elmiko | #topic open discussion | 16:32 |
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| elmiko | anything else we should discuss? | 16:32 |
| cdent | maybe annegentle can give us a crash course in "how to remain engaged in a cross project thing and keep sane and get stuff done" | 16:32 |
| elmiko | haha, +1 | 16:33 |
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| edleafe | cdent: no such thing exists :) | 16:33 |
| cdent | edleafe: did you just rise from the ashes? | 16:33 |
| edleafe | nah, I've been popping in here while doing 6 other things | 16:34 |
| cdent | music plays, coffin opens, edleafe intones "sorry, mate, no can do" | 16:34 |
| elmiko | lol! | 16:34 |
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| elmiko | shall we reclaim part of the day? | 16:36 |
| cdent | yessir | 16:37 |
| cdent | I promise to become a good api-wg-member asap | 16:38 |
| elmiko | cool, take care, see ya next week o/ | 16:38 |
| elmiko | hehe, no worries =) | 16:38 |
| elmiko | #endmeeting | 16:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 19 16:38:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-05-19-16.00.html | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-05-19-16.00.txt | 16:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-05-19-16.00.log.html | 16:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ivar-laz_ igordcard hemanthravi: hi | 18:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:00 |
| hemanthravi | hi | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: do you expect any other folks from your team to join today? | 18:01 |
| hemanthravi | they won't be joining today...up late last few days for a demo | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: sure np | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 19 18:01:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:02 |
| hemanthravi | wnated to check with you if it'll be possible to move the call up for a few weeks | 18:02 |
| hemanthravi | to accomodate the folks in india | 18:02 |
| rkukura | earlier in the day? | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#May_19th.2C_2016 | 18:02 |
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| hemanthravi | yes | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: hi | 18:02 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: hello | 18:02 |
| rkukura | hemanthravi: would work for me | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#May_19th.2C_2016 | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: i will check, lets do it when we absolutely have to | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: otherwise its confusing to go back and forth | 18:03 |
| hemanthravi | ok | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | were there any critical bugs that needed to be looked at? | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:04 | |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: would it be possible to have a convenient timeslot for this IRC so India folks also can join? | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: we just discussed that | 18:05 |
| songole | ok | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | one update - the new functionality for providing a fixed IP when launching a member has been merged to the UI as well | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks to Ank in hemanthravi’s team | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that created an issue with member launch though in the stable branches | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | backport was incorrect, and it has been fixed | 18:06 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: Can we discuss the issue with neutron flavors? | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thats one critical issue i can think of in the last week, but its fixed now | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: sure, we are discussing Bugs right now | 18:07 |
| songole | the issue is with service_profile resource | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other critical or high priority bugs that we need to look at? | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: okay, bug ID? | 18:08 |
| songole | we need to find a way to have both to coexist.. | 18:08 |
| songole | 1560717 | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: can you post the link, the bot will automatically provide the bug title | 18:09 |
| songole | I suggest that we rename gbp service_profile | 18:09 |
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| songole | https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1560717 | 18:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560717 in Group Based Policy " Flavors framework plugin is not loaded in gate job" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Subrahmanyam Ongole (osms69) | 18:10 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | songole: looking | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: for the patch i posted, the devstack integration job seems to have worked fine | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296098 | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: i have rebased the patch, lets see if it passes the gate | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: but if the devstack job passed the gate earlier, it means the loading and coexistence of flavors framework was successful, right? | 18:14 |
| songole | How is it supposed to work? does it give higher precedence to gbp resource? | 18:14 |
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| songole | would I be able to use both? | 18:14 |
| songole | neutron and gbp? | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: i would hope that the appropriate namespace for the resources should be able to deal with it | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: the gate devstack job will tell us if you can use the gbp service profile when the neutron flavors plugin is loaded | 18:15 |
| songole | and the other way as well? | 18:16 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | songole: you can add an exercise script to that same patch, and in that you can run neutron commands for the service profile and see if it works | 18:16 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: ok. I will verify | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: that particular bug i created was merely to track loading of the neutron flavors framework, to validate that it does not in any affect the GBP service profile | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | songole: if we find that the two are not compatible (i.e. you cannot create a neutron service profile and/or use flavors framework), we should open a different bug to track that | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | since its a bigger issue | 18:18 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:18 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | songole: was there any other issue that you wanted to discuss? | 18:19 |
| songole | https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy-ui/+bug/1582457 | 18:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1582457 in Group Based Policy UI "Member create UI should match nova instance create page" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to ank (ank.b) | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: i think you posted something regarding the mitaka UI (inconsistency of the member launch) | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: ah, right on cue | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: yeah, we need to fix that | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | moving on | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Packaging | 18:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i believe you had an update | 18:21 |
| rkukura | I’ve been trying to track down the status of GBP integration into DeLorean, which seems to have been renamed DLRN, but am not having much luck | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: i belive you had earlier asked questions regarding this | 18:23 |
| rkukura | I can’t find any evidence the work has been done, but I’m not sure I’m looking in the right places | 18:23 |
| songole | we are building GBP rpms ourselves for now | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay, and there was no pending action item at our end (that they might be waiting on)? | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: did you get past the entry point issue? | 18:25 |
| rkukura | Other than specifying a 2nd maintainer, I don’t think so | 18:25 |
| songole | yeah, we installed liberty and we built rpms for mitaka. that was the issue | 18:26 |
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| songole | we are able to proceed with our testing | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | songole: nice :-) | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so you are the second maintainer, right? | 18:27 |
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| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I think I’m the 1st, and I said you would be the 2nd. Hope you don’t mind ;) | 18:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: oh okay, thats fine | 18:27 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: In general, ignoring details like DLRN, how imporant is it to get GBP into RDO? | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i thought you said they were building the package, so someone in their team was the first maintainer | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i thought our plan was to always to get into RDO, no? | 18:28 |
| rkukura | I think they are setting it up and want us to take over maintaining it | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: but i dont know the relative priority, perhaps an offline discussion | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: sure, its good to control our destiny in that sense | 18:29 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic NFP | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: shall we assess the progress since last week’s meeting? | 18:31 |
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| hemanthravi | there have been review comments | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and, responses to the comments? | 18:32 |
| hemanthravi | the team was busy fixing some issues and posted patches for those. they will work on the review coments fri/sat | 18:32 |
| hemanthravi | from my side i could only add the patch list to indicate the order, will be working on the desc and the devref | 18:33 |
| hemanthravi | hope to finish these by mon | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: thanks much for working on that | 18:34 |
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| hemanthravi | did go through the review comments and most of them should be addressed, will address the pending ones next week | 18:34 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: i had a quest in the sencond patch about duplicated db mixins (copied from neutron) | 18:34 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: magesh responded, but i dont see any changes in the code | 18:34 |
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| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam: will ping him today, he did say he'll address that | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay thanks | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: at what point could we take the series and deploy using devstack? | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | not the whole series, but the minimal number of patches (as we discussed in the last meeting) | 18:36 |
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| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam: the current set can be deployed with devstack, only issue is that we won't be using couple of the patches which are related to configuring service vms | 18:38 |
| hemanthravi | do we want to make it deployobale without those patches, i would rather avoid it unless absolutely necessary | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: but i thought we were anyways working on a gate job which is going to use the namespace http proxy lbaas impl (no VMs) | 18:39 |
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| hemanthravi | the gate job will work with the current devstack installing all the patches | 18:40 |
| hemanthravi | the functionality in 2 of the current set will not be used for the minimal service vm | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: hmmm, i thought we were adding an exercise script to the gate job which would test “base mode” (no service VMs involved) | 18:41 |
| hemanthravi | i meant base mode... | 18:41 |
| hemanthravi | not service vm | 18:42 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay, so i am asking at what point can we test that base mode in our developer environments (i.e. using devstack)? | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | or can we already do it (and if so it will be good to get those instructions posted on the wiki page)? | 18:43 |
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| hemanthravi | we can do that now, only missing the gate job | 18:43 |
| hemanthravi | for merging | 18:43 |
| hemanthravi | currently base mode (namespace haproxy) and minimal service vm work with the submitted patches | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay, so keeping gate job aside for a min, can you post the instructions for the above so that reviewers can try it out in their environments? | 18:45 |
| hemanthravi | will do | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: i would imagine that the gate job would also implement something similar to the instructions you plan to post, and will be ready in course of time | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: apart from that addition to the gate job, the current series is breaking the devstack integration job | 18:46 |
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| hemanthravi | yes, will keep these in sync | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: i posted a comment to that effect in the first patch, and what needs to be done to fix it | 18:47 |
| hemanthravi | ok, will address that one. haven't seen it yet | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: that fix should go into the first patch, so that the all the patches at least have a clean gate job run | 18:47 |
| hemanthravi | ok | 18:47 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | anyone have any questions for hemanthravi this week regarding NFP? | 18:48 |
| igordcard | nothing from here yet | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: okay | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: lets discuss your QoS patch next week, we might run out of time today | 18:50 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: okay | 18:50 |
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| igordcard | it's up now, able to create maxrate bandwidth limiting qos policies mapped to each of the PTs inside a PTG, by attaching a new kind of NSP to the PTG | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | meanwhile FYI - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301701/ | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thats the QoS support patch on the feature/qos branch | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: thanks | 18:52 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: thanks for the link | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link Intra-PTG communication | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so there is a use case for disallowing communication between PTs in the same PTG | 18:52 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | this typically happens when you want to provide a common service, like data backup, to all VMs | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so if you can create a new group which has intra-PTG communication disallowed, you can add all members to this backup group (in addition to their original groups) | 18:54 |
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| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I’m a bit confused - I thought a PT could only belong to one PTG | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | to facilitate this a boolean attribute has been requested in the PTG definition, to disallow Intra-PTG communication | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thats true, but a member can be associated with multiple PTGs | 18:56 |
| rkukura | what is “a member”? | 18:56 |
| rkukura | a PT? | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: good question | 18:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: today the member definition resides in the clients which exercise the GBP api (its not within the GBP model) | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so if you go to the GBP UI today, you create a member in the context of a group (the user doesnt create a PT) | 18:57 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Is the member the VM? And do you mean it can have multiple NICs attached to ports belonging to different PTs | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: right | 18:58 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and when you create the member, you are obviously in the context of one PTG, but you can associate additional PTGs as well | 18:58 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: which in turn plays out like you described | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | I will put the details in a spec and send it out for review | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just wanted to set the context here | 18:59 |
| rkukura | OK, hopefully with the right one providing the VM’s default route | 18:59 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, that needs to be handled correctly | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | all right, we are out of time, thanks all for joining | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | see you next week | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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| igordcard | bye | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-05-19-18.01.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-05-19-18.01.txt | 19:00 |
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| shamail | #startmeeting nonatc | 19:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 19 19:02:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shamail. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nonatc' | 19:02 |
| shamail | Hi everyone. Who’s here today? | 19:02 |
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| shamail | This might be a quick meeting. :-) | 19:02 |
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| MeganR | o/ - but also on a Webex, so slower to respond | 19:03 |
| shamail | ping dabukalam | 19:03 |
| shamail | Hi Megan! | 19:03 |
| shamail | np | 19:03 |
| shamail | Let’s give this a few minutes… if it is just us then we can defer to next week. | 19:03 |
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| shamail | The agenda would still be relevant | 19:03 |
| shamail | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NonATCRecognition#Meeting_Information | 19:03 |
| MeganR | sounds good | 19:03 |
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| shamail | Alright, I will go ahead and end the meeting for today. I will make sure to send out a reminder for the meeting next week (I think that still helps). | 19:05 |
| shamail | Thanks for joining MeganR | 19:05 |
| MeganR | yw - thank you for the quick meting :) | 19:05 |
| shamail | #endmeeting | 19:05 |
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| shillasaebi | #startmeeting ops_guide | 20:33 |
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| shillasaebi | hello | 20:34 |
| shillasaebi | anyone here for the ops guide | 20:34 |
| DevonBoatwright | Hello | 20:34 |
| shillasaebi | hi DevonBoatwright | 20:34 |
| shillasaebi | how are you? | 20:34 |
| DevonBoatwright | super awesome | 20:34 |
| vhoward | o/ | 20:34 |
| DevonBoatwright | ;) | 20:34 |
| shillasaebi | DarrenC won't be joining us today | 20:34 |
| shillasaebi | hi vhoward | 20:34 |
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| shillasaebi | is shaunom here? | 20:35 |
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| shillasaebi | hmmm no | 20:35 |
| shillasaebi | he started a review for the blueprint arch-guide-restructure https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311998/ and it was merged a few days ago | 20:36 |
| shillasaebi | were still looking for help with the reorganization of the ops guide. Feedback can be added to #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-guide-reorg | 20:37 |
| shillasaebi | we also discussed the tagging and bringing it up to Christian and Andreas once some thoughts were gathered #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-tagging | 20:38 |
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| shillasaebi | There's not much content in there yet | 20:39 |
| shillasaebi | Guessing we'll need more time | 20:39 |
| shillasaebi | shaunom had mentioned that he was going to be in Germany, and that he can try and touchbase with Andreas. | 20:39 |
| shillasaebi | Maybe next time we will have more updates on taht | 20:39 |
| shillasaebi | especially since darrenc and shaunom are not here today | 20:40 |
| shillasaebi | I really don't have much else to add besides looking at the ops guide and adding feedback to #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-guide-reorg | 20:41 |
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| DevonBoatwright | It will be a quick meeting today, then. | 20:42 |
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| shillasaebi | yeah hopefully more next time | 20:44 |
| shillasaebi | #topic open discussion | 20:44 |
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| shillasaebi | anyone have anything to bring up? | 20:44 |
| vhoward | (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | 20:44 |
| vhoward | nope | 20:45 |
| shillasaebi | lol | 20:45 |
| shillasaebi | ok then sorry it was short this time | 20:45 |
| shillasaebi | hopefully more next time | 20:45 |
| shillasaebi | meeting adjourned! | 20:45 |
| shillasaebi | #endmeeting | 20:45 |
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