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| dtroyer | OSC meeting courtesy ping: dtroyer, dhellmann, rthies, stevemar, terrylhowe, dstanek, MeganR, rtheis, DuncanT, sheel, jgregor, baumann | 13:01 |
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| dtroyer | anyone here yet? | 13:01 |
| tangchen | Hi | 13:02 |
| tangchen | I'm here | 13:02 |
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| tangchen | Sorry for missing so many meetings. | 13:02 |
| DuncanT | Hi | 13:02 |
| dtroyer | No worries, I understand how you feel much of the time tangchen at these odd times of day for you, I just woke up myself | 13:03 |
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| dtroyer | I suspect our ping list needs updating… | 13:04 |
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| dtroyer | this could be short, let's get started | 13:05 |
| dtroyer | #startmeeting openstackclient | 13:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 14 13:05:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 13:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 13:05 |
| dtroyer | #topic recent breakage | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "recent breakage (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 13:06 | |
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| dtroyer | So the transition to osc-lib is having a bit of fallout | 13:06 |
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| tangchen | dtroyer: Hi Dean, it is the meeting now, right ? or it is 6hours later ? | 13:06 |
| dtroyer | I attempted to do the ClientManager and OpenStackShell object transitions in pieces and managed to get a few things out of order | 13:07 |
| dtroyer | uh, am I at the wrong time now? | 13:07 |
| dtroyer | oh, I missed last week... | 13:07 |
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| dtroyer | both of my calendars have out meeting now... | 13:12 |
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| tangchen | dtroyer: I'm not quite sure... | 13:13 |
| tangchen | Actually I don't know this week is odd or even... | 13:13 |
| tangchen | Maybe it is wrong time | 13:14 |
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| tangchen | And the osc-lib, I sent some patches. Some project core team chose to wait for the stable version. So for now, it is not breaking anything, I think | 13:15 |
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| dtroyer | thos patches came a bit early, osc-lib is not really ready. the base stuf like utils, logging, etc are safe, but the upper stuff is not | 13:16 |
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| tangchen | dtroyer: OK. I can pend the rest patches. | 13:16 |
| dtroyer | I got a couple of things out of order and not all of it got merged before I left on vacation | 13:16 |
| dtroyer | anyway, I think we unbroke the people running master everywhere yesterday | 13:17 |
| tangchen | dtroyer: OK | 13:18 |
| dtroyer | there is still an issue in the auth argument handling that I need to sort out to move forward converting osc to use osc-lib | 13:18 |
| dtroyer | #topic reviews | 13:19 |
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| dtroyer | tangchen: since it seems to be just you an I, do you have any reviews you want to talk about? | 13:19 |
| tangchen | no | 13:20 |
| tangchen | dtroyer: I have just one question about swift. | 13:20 |
| dtroyer | sure | 13:20 |
| tangchen | dtroyer: Are we going to implement swift commands in osc, or make swiftclient a plugin ? | 13:20 |
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| dtroyer | swiftclient will never be used by us, everything we do currently is internal, the future is to either expand that or use the SDK | 13:21 |
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| dtroyer | FWIW, swiftclient didnt' exist when we built our own commands, which were basically forked out of the existing at that time swift comamnd binary | 13:22 |
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| tangchen | dtroyer: So, object commands will be implemented in OSC, using SDK, right? | 13:24 |
| tangchen | of course, in the future. | 13:25 |
| dtroyer | yes, once SDK is past 1.0 | 13:25 |
| tangchen | OK | 13:25 |
| dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 13:25 |
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| dtroyer | anything else? | 13:25 |
| tangchen | nothing else for me today | 13:25 |
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| dtroyer | I have just one bit… | 13:26 |
| dtroyer | is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302687/ the last of the IP command changes? I think a bunch of them merged while I was gone | 13:27 |
| tangchen | Yse it is. | 13:27 |
| tangchen | we can close the bug | 13:27 |
| dtroyer | coolness, thanks for your patience on getting those in tangchen | 13:27 |
| tangchen | after this one | 13:27 |
| dtroyer | and for doing most of the work | 13:27 |
| tangchen | not at all. It is my duty. and I learned a lot from it. :) | 13:28 |
| dtroyer | one other question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340226/ | 13:28 |
| dtroyer | Is anyone actually using cloudpipe? | 13:29 |
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| dtroyer | we are not bound to implement every last think in the project APIs or CLIs, especially if they are not needed or used | 13:29 |
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| dtroyer | tangchen: I'm hoping you might know or find out since the author is from EasyStack | 13:30 |
| tangchen | dtroyer: I have never used it before. And neither do the people around me. | 13:30 |
| tangchen | Yes | 13:30 |
| tangchen | I'll confirm it tomorrow | 13:30 |
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| dtroyer | ok thanks. If that is not driven by an actual need for it I'd like to not do it. | 13:31 |
| tangchen | I think he just tried to find out which command has not been implemented. | 13:31 |
| tangchen | OK | 13:31 |
| dtroyer | That was all I had | 13:31 |
| tangchen | nothing for me either. | 13:31 |
| njohnston | Quick question - I filed this blkueprint, what is the next step for me to get it approved? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+spec/neutron-client-qos | 13:32 |
| njohnston | (sorry to jump in, it just looked like you were possibly ending the meeting) | 13:32 |
| tangchen | one min | 13:33 |
| dtroyer | njohnston: we don't follow the strict blueprint process, we mostly use them for coordination | 13:33 |
| njohnston | OK. Should I file a spec next, then, or proceed to implementation? It's just migrating commands that exist in python0neutronclient. | 13:33 |
| dtroyer | what I would suggest os that you add to that the actual resource names you want to use, that is usually the hardest part of implementing new commands | 13:33 |
| njohnston | OK, will do | 13:34 |
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| tangchen | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-neutronclient/devref/transition_to_osc.html | 13:34 |
| tangchen | Please have a look at this page | 13:34 |
| njohnston | Will do, thanks! | 13:34 |
| dtroyer | we usually don't like using abbreviations, but really 'qos' is common enough and a total pain to spell out so I expect that to be OK here | 13:34 |
| tangchen | I think you 'd better to talk to neutronclient guys | 13:34 |
| tangchen | I'm not sure if qos commands will be implemented in OSC | 13:35 |
| tangchen | maybe a plugin | 13:35 |
| dtroyer | rthies is on vacation this week, he has been working with them and would be helpful to touch base with when he returns next week (I think it is) | 13:35 |
| tangchen | but, I think neutronclient team can confirm that | 13:35 |
| njohnston | OK, I confirmed that this was good with rtheis late last week. | 13:35 |
| dtroyer | the base guideline is that 'core API' stuff is to go into OSC | 13:35 |
| dtroyer | ah, ok, thanks | 13:35 |
| tangchen | :) | 13:35 |
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| njohnston | Yeah, QoS is not in the same category as like FWaaS or LBaaS | 13:36 |
| njohnston | it's part of the core code | 13:36 |
| njohnston | OK, thanks very much, I will follow the document! | 13:36 |
| dtroyer | njohnston: one more bit, in your BP you use the verb 'update'. OSC uses 'set' for that | 13:36 |
| njohnston | ok | 13:36 |
| njohnston | I will fix that | 13:37 |
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| dtroyer | thanks | 13:37 |
| dtroyer | before I rush out to get breakfast, is there anything else? | 13:37 |
| njohnston | nope, thanks! | 13:37 |
| tangchen | nothing | 13:38 |
| tangchen | thanks a lot. ;) | 13:38 |
| dtroyer | ok, thanks guys! | 13:38 |
| njohnston | thanks! | 13:38 |
| dtroyer | and tangchen, thanks again for the work you and EasyStack are doing | 13:38 |
| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 13:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 14 13:39:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:39 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-07-14-13.05.html | 13:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-07-14-13.05.txt | 13:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-07-14-13.05.log.html | 13:39 |
| tangchen | You are welcome. :) | 13:39 |
| tangchen | bey | 13:39 |
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| vgridnev | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 14 14:00:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vgridnev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:01 |
| vgridnev | hello | 14:01 |
| elmiko | hi | 14:01 |
| tosky | o/ | 14:01 |
| esikachev | hey! | 14:01 |
| egafford | o/ | 14:01 |
| mionkin | hi | 14:01 |
| raissa | hi | 14:01 |
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| zemuvier | hi | 14:02 |
| vgridnev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 14:02 |
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| vgridnev | should we should wait someone else? | 14:02 |
| egafford | This is pretty big for our meeting recently. :) | 14:02 |
| vgridnev | #topic News / updates | 14:03 |
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| vgridnev | submitting talks, preparing and releasing Newton2 is done | 14:03 |
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| elmiko | yeah, some new faces too =) | 14:03 |
| mionkin | working on implementation of designate in sahara, sahara-dashboard and python-saharaclient | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | o/ | 14:03 |
| tosky | preparing the consolidation of tempest tests, starting from CLI test, but waiting on a patch which improves them first | 14:04 |
| elmiko | i've been reviewing the progress of the apiv2 tasks and working towards getting it moving again | 14:04 |
| egafford | Submitted talks for Barcelona. Image gen CLI patch landed, config engine for that coming today probably (need to solve a chicken/egg problem on configs and write unit tests, but none of it's terribly tricky.) | 14:04 |
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| esikachev | working on refactoring sahara-ci, submitting talk, debugging of sahara-cli job | 14:04 |
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| vgridnev | seems like we have at least 3 talks around sahara | 14:05 |
| zemuvier | worked on cli-tests, updated sahara-ci-config with storm plugin | 14:05 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | vgridnev: yes, but usually we also see some Sahara related talks submitted by other companies. But those are more aroud marketing stuff rather than technical | 14:06 |
| tellesnobrega | pyleus integration is almost completed, I just added some changes to image gen to install it, and added some configs to the storm plugin, so probably a new patch is coming today | 14:06 |
| vgridnev | #topic API v2 progress | 14:07 |
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| vgridnev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273316/ | 14:07 |
| elmiko | well, i've been going over the open issues on the wiki page | 14:07 |
| vgridnev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sahara/api-v2 | 14:07 |
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| elmiko | over the next week, i'm going to get in touch with the listed parties to figure out where they are at | 14:08 |
| vgridnev | elmiko, additionally, could please review pagination changes when it's ready? | 14:08 |
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| elmiko | then, depending on how things are going, i might open some of the issues back up and try to move forward with some patches | 14:08 |
| elmiko | vgridnev: ack, hadn't seen the updates. i'll add it to my queue | 14:08 |
| elmiko | overall, v2 progress is still slow, but i'm trying to develop a course of action to get us moving again | 14:09 |
| vgridnev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/pagination | 14:09 |
| elmiko | thanks | 14:09 |
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| vgridnev | #topic Specs / features status | 14:11 |
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| vgridnev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336931 | 14:12 |
| vgridnev | it's a pagination spec, do we need some additional updates right there? | 14:12 |
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| egafford | When I read it last, it looked perfectly reasonable (and I checked that it's totally in keeping w/ other OpenStack services, so it's not very controversial.) | 14:13 |
| tellesnobrega | i believe it is in a good state right now | 14:13 |
| tellesnobrega | follows the guidelines, so nothing weird going on there and it is well written/detailed | 14:13 |
| vgridnev | there are still some small issues with non-existing fields for sorting, but I think it's not critical | 14:14 |
| tellesnobrega | yes, that can be addressed later | 14:15 |
| egafford | vgridnev: Yeah, implementation detail. | 14:15 |
| egafford | vgridnev: Ready to merge? | 14:15 |
| vgridnev | will do after meeting, I think | 14:15 |
| egafford | vgridnev: +1 | 14:16 |
| egafford | It's got its votes anyway. | 14:16 |
| vgridnev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339459/ | 14:16 |
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| vgridnev | it's designate integration spec | 14:16 |
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| egafford | Yup, saw this yesterday, but haven't had time to read it yet. Will do today. | 14:17 |
| mionkin | I've updated it: added information about hostnames collisions | 14:18 |
| egafford | Certainly, it's a nice feature, esp. if we can then work DNS into the heat templates. | 14:18 |
| vgridnev | there were some question about same domains in different tenants, but seems like it's was addressed | 14:18 |
| mionkin | egafford: heat templates can work with designate | 14:19 |
| egafford | mionkin: Yup! | 14:20 |
| tellesnobrega | it looks good to me, had a question on the name collision but it was answered and the rest looks perfectly reasonable | 14:21 |
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| mionkin | tellesnobrega: thanks for this question! | 14:22 |
| vgridnev | and the last spec by tmckay has not received any additional updates, so I guess that we can skip discussing that today | 14:22 |
| tellesnobrega | mionkin, np :) | 14:22 |
| egafford | tellesnobrega: It's possible we should just do the minor updates on the spec to get on with the feature. | 14:24 |
| egafford | (Re: the floating ips change.) | 14:24 |
| vgridnev | egafford, is my understanding right, tellesnobrega is going to work on this one? | 14:25 |
| tellesnobrega | egafford, sure, i didn't want to jump in since tmckay said he was up to finish that up, but I can certainly talk to him and do the updates | 14:25 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, yes | 14:25 |
| vgridnev | tellesnobrega, ok, cool! | 14:25 |
| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, I was going to work only on implementation since trevor said he would finish up the spec, but if needed i can talk to him and take the spec as well | 14:25 |
| egafford | Honestly there's nothing controversial in the spec anymore; the requested changes are small, so merging the spec doesn't block work on the code (which is also already posted.) | 14:26 |
| vgridnev | tellesnobrega, it would be nice to finish spec also, I'm not quite about Trevor's timing | 14:27 |
| egafford | (tmckay likes his coding-while-spec-writing.) | 14:27 |
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| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, egafford also, i will pick it up asap | 14:27 |
| vgridnev | ok, moving on then | 14:27 |
| egafford | vgridnev: Trevor's mostly on another project at the moment, sadly. | 14:27 |
| vgridnev | #topic Sahara Project Mascot | 14:28 |
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| vgridnev | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-mascot | 14:28 |
| * egafford asked him to come back to post his work on that spec, and was thankful that he had time | 14:28 | |
| vgridnev | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-mascot | 14:28 |
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| egafford | BEST TOPIC EVER. | 14:28 |
| elmiko | hehe | 14:28 |
| tellesnobrega | true | 14:28 |
| egafford | I *really* like the robot elephant with the antenna on its head. | 14:29 |
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| tosky | yeah, the problem is whether is too close to the hadoop upstream; the video seems to imply that it would be problematic if not impossible to use | 14:29 |
| vgridnev | ok, product working group is pushing creating mascots for projects, so we need to make some order of current candidates | 14:29 |
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| elmiko | but, isn't the OS foundation going to have an artist render all the new mascots, so they look similar in style? | 14:29 |
| vgridnev | anyway, I think red elephant is top ! | 14:30 |
| elmiko | sounds good to me =) | 14:30 |
| vgridnev | top1, I mean | 14:30 |
| tosky | right, but we need a backup choice | 14:30 |
| elmiko | dung beetle needs to be in there, aren't they native to the sahara? | 14:31 |
| egafford | "Among the mammal species still found in the Sahara are the gerbil, jerboa, Cape hare, and desert hedgehog; Barbary sheep and scimitar-horned oryx; dorcas gazelle, dama deer, and Nubian wild ass; anubis baboon; spotted hyena, common jackal, and sand fox; and Libyan striped weasel and slender mongoose." | 14:31 |
| elmiko | ooh, desert hedgehog ftw! | 14:31 |
| tellesnobrega | sand fox is pretty cool as wel | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | well | 14:32 |
| egafford | elmiko: Jerboas are totally adorable too. | 14:32 |
| egafford | Sand fox would be a good cute-but-can-be-taken-seriously compromise. | 14:32 |
| tosky | *fox is probably not usable | 14:33 |
| tellesnobrega | :( | 14:33 |
| egafford | Jerboas probably haven't been copyrighted, so that might pass the tosky filter. | 14:33 |
| elmiko | lol | 14:33 |
| tosky | it's not *my* filter '-_- | 14:33 |
| egafford | And the ears would certainly make for a unique mascot. | 14:33 |
| elmiko | haha | 14:33 |
| egafford | tosky: True. | 14:34 |
| elmiko | what about a Jerboa riding an elephant? | 14:34 |
| egafford | elmiko: :O | 14:34 |
| vgridnev | elmiko, +++++ | 14:34 |
| egafford | That is my new favorite thing. | 14:34 |
| tellesnobrega | now that's an idea | 14:34 |
| tellesnobrega | elmiko, way to think outside the box | 14:34 |
| tosky | a jerboa with (evident) fake elephant ears | 14:35 |
| elmiko | just so we're all on the same page, jerboa http://i.imgur.com/QAoHKgD.jpg | 14:35 |
| elmiko | so cute... | 14:35 |
| egafford | Also https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BRDS-2brA4Q/hqdefault.jpg for straight-on giant ear goodness. | 14:35 |
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| elmiko | haha, that's a good one too | 14:35 |
| tellesnobrega | yeah, looks like a kangaroo that didn't grow up | 14:36 |
| egafford | tellesnobrega: XD | 14:36 |
| tellesnobrega | but its nice :) i liked it | 14:36 |
| elmiko | lol, microroo | 14:36 |
| tellesnobrega | yes | 14:36 |
| vgridnev | ok, seems like red elephant is first, the second option is jerboa | 14:37 |
| egafford | I do think the red robot elephant works really well for us, for sure, no matter how cute jerboas are, so +1. | 14:38 |
| elmiko | definitely, +1 | 14:39 |
| tosky | yep | 14:39 |
| vgridnev | #topic Open discussion | 14:39 |
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| egafford | Honestly it's hard to top a 5 minute conversation about jerboas. | 14:41 |
| elmiko | true that | 14:41 |
| esikachev | :) | 14:41 |
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| zemuvier | :) | 14:41 |
| tellesnobrega | lol | 14:41 |
| zemuvier | truly:) | 14:42 |
| vgridnev | anything else that we can discuss? | 14:43 |
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| tellesnobrega | i guess the silence means no | 14:44 |
| egafford | Nothing here | 14:44 |
| vgridnev | ok, thanks folks | 14:44 |
| elmiko | nothing from me | 14:45 |
| vgridnev | #endmeeting | 14:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 14 14:45:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-07-14-14.00.html | 14:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-07-14-14.00.txt | 14:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-07-14-14.00.log.html | 14:45 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks all | 14:45 |
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| mlavalle | hi | 15:00 |
| pavel_bondar | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 14 15:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| tidwellr | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #chair tidwellr carl_baldwin | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: carl_baldwin mlavalle tidwellr | 15:00 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | Today's agenda can be found here: | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-l3-subteam | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | The other announcement is that we are in the process of cutting the Newton-2 milestone | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | I don't know exactly where we are in that process, but it's taking place this week | 15:03 |
| njohnston | According to dhellman, today is the deadline | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | Also a reminder to the team about the Neutron mid-cycle is Cork Ireland. Here's the etherpad: | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-midcycle | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | njohnston: thanks! | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | Any other annoucements from the team? | 15:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | Can't think of another | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on... | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:06 | |
| mlavalle | First in the list is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1564335 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1564335 in neutron " [Pluggable IPAM] delete subnet in ml2 plugin does not comply with pluggable ipam (deletes ip allocations directly from db)" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 15:06 |
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| mlavalle | any updates pavel_bondar? | 15:07 |
| pavel_bondar | hi | 15:07 |
| pavel_bondar | I have uploaded new version with addressed comments | 15:07 |
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| pavel_bondar | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323345/ | 15:07 |
| pavel_bondar | it has some jenkins failures, but I believe it is just fluctuations | 15:08 |
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| pavel_bondar | so rechecking it | 15:08 |
| pavel_bondar | reviews are welcome | 15:08 |
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| pavel_bondar | and that is probably it for that bug | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | pavel_bondar: thanks for the update and your hard work | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, pavel_bondar | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | Next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1596075 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596075 in neutron "Neutron confused about overlapping subnet creation" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | For this one kevinbenton has been exchanging patchsets and information with the reporter | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | Progress has been made but hasn't arrived to the final solution yet | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | any other comments from the team? | 15:11 |
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| carl_baldwin | I was reading through comments yesterday. At least it sheds some light on the problem. | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on... | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1599329 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1599329 in neutron "Potential regression on handing over DHCP addresses to VMs" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 15:13 |
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| mlavalle | This is also assigned to kevinbenton. It was confirmed by armax | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | Not much more in the bug yet | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | any comments? | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | Without digging in, it could be anything. | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | Last one this week is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1600530 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1600530 in neutron "Part 2 of engine DB facade breaks metadata agent" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Henry Gessau (gessau) | 15:16 |
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| mlavalle | HenryG and Ann are working on it. Ann already submitted a partial fix | 15:17 |
| HenryG | Er ... | 15:17 |
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| HenryG | It was reverted and a new fix posted | 15:17 |
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| HenryG | Or am I confused? | 15:18 |
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| mlavalle | HenryG: well, the patchset merged by Ann seems to be a partial fix | 15:18 |
| HenryG | Oh, right | 15:18 |
| HenryG | It's a temporary fix. | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | and actually Ann's comments point in that direction | 15:19 |
| HenryG | The real fix went into oslo.db | 15:19 |
| HenryG | We'll pick that up when the requirement lands | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | HenryG: thanks for the update. Do you have the url of that fix? | 15:20 |
| HenryG | one sec ... | 15:20 |
| HenryG | https://review.openstack.org/340381 | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | HenryG: thanks! I'll update the bug with this | 15:21 |
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| mlavalle | Those were all the bugs I had this week | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | any other bugs from the team? | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | If not, let's move on | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | #topic Routed Networks | 15:23 |
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| carl_baldwin | Hi | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | Things are moving pretty well. | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | I think we're over the hump in terms of being useable. It is kind of fun. | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | I don't know if I have anything to discuss. | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | Does anyone else? | 15:24 |
| john-davidge | On the related note of service subnet, I'm still having issues with the model/db sync | 15:25 |
| john-davidge | If anyone knows that area well I'd appreciate some feedback https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337851 | 15:25 |
| john-davidge | Or I think I am anyway, currently waiting on the gate tests to confirm | 15:26 |
| john-davidge | Other than that, that patch is in pretty good shape now I think | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: I can have a look. | 15:26 |
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| john-davidge | carl_bladwin: Thanks | 15:26 |
| john-davidge | haha, sorry, can't spell today | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | On the Nova scheduler integration subject, I have made good progress deploying the generic resource pools in my test environment. Also, I already have an almost completely functional client for the generic rsource pool api, so soon I will start prototyping the integration with it in Neutron | 15:27 |
| * haleyb will look as well | 15:27 | |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: great progress | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on... | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | #topic BGP Dynamic Routing | 15:29 |
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| tidwellr | hi | 15:29 |
| tidwellr | made some awesome progress on getting some of the check jobs to run | 15:29 |
| tidwellr | we got the infra help we need, now the ball is back in my court | 15:30 |
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| steve_ruan | the are some patch for bgpvpn advertisement | 15:31 |
| steve_ruan | and the spec need review | 15:31 |
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| steve_ruan | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1509431 | 15:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1509431 in neutron "[RFE] Enhance BGP Dynamic Routing with L2VPN/L3VPN support" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Henry Dong (henry-dong) | 15:31 |
| tidwellr | steve_ruan: I'll take a look at the spec again, I just had some nits last time I looked | 15:31 |
| steve_ruan | thanks | 15:31 |
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| mlavalle | anything else tidwellr, steve_ruan? | 15:33 |
| tidwellr | nothing else from me | 15:33 |
| tidwellr | well | 15:33 |
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| tidwellr | we could use an approval on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333668/ | 15:34 |
| steve_ruan | still coding for the advertisement, not finish yet | 15:34 |
| tidwellr | I had initially written this off as a non-issue, but it turns out we need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333668/ to make the check jobs go' | 15:34 |
| tidwellr | I +2'ed it, it just needs another +2 | 15:35 |
| tidwellr | that's all I had | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr, steve_ruan: Thanks for the update | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | Moving on... | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | #topic FWaaS | 15:36 |
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| mlavalle | njohnston: you are up | 15:36 |
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| njohnston | Hi all! So our movement has been a little slow the last week because of teammembers on vacation and whatnot. | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | yeah, Summer | 15:37 |
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| njohnston | But I have fixed up https://review.openstack.org/329701 and I think it's ready to be merged, I just need to make sure the shim class I introduced for backwards compatibility will cut the mustard. | 15:37 |
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| njohnston | once that is done I will get busy with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339246/, the second stage | 15:38 |
| njohnston | and I believe yushiro is working on the fwaas agent extension that will plus into this agent extension management framework | 15:38 |
| njohnston | That's it for me. | 15:38 |
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| mlavalle | njohnston: thanks for the update | 15:39 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Conversion to Pluggable IPAM | 15:39 |
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| pavel_bondar | not much progress on my side during this week on that topic | 15:40 |
| johnbelamaric | I still hope to get to the docs this week or early next week | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Did you see my notes about the test failure in the api job? | 15:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | I rebased your patch and it has passed Jenkins. We need a few more rechecks. And, we might need to follow up on that problem even if it isn't failing any more. | 15:41 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: yes, I saw, but I need to dive deep into details to say for sure if there is an issue or not | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: I suspect the rollback mechanism is not working properly. | 15:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | I can't remember where I made my notes so I can't find them now. | 15:42 |
| pavel_bondar | I guess you mean one on review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181023/89 | 15:42 |
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| tidwellr | one more thing we need to do is the contract migration for removing IpAvailabilityRanges | 15:43 |
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| pavel_bondar | tidwellr: right, as I see it can be prepared in parallel to switch to pluggable ipam, since IpAvailabilityRanges is no longer used | 15:44 |
| tidwellr | right, just one little thing still hanging out there | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Yes, that was it. | 15:45 |
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| mlavalle | anything else on this topic? | 15:46 |
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| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin:(about rollback) I think if you have session that is already broken, we still need to call rollback for ipam driver, since driver itself might not use session and be able to do rollback | 15:46 |
| pavel_bondar | this is not the case for reference driver, since it uses the same session as neutron | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | It looks like we might be able to fix it by inserting a session.rollback() or something. I haven't had a chance to play with it. | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | Do we have any tests that exercise the rollback mechanism in this way? | 15:48 |
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| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: ^ | 15:48 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: yeah, I guess it could help | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Do you know if we have such tests? | 15:49 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: no, I guess we don't have tests that break session | 15:50 |
| pavel_bondar | there are a few that do rollback on oridinary exceptions | 15:50 |
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| pavel_bondar | but no tests that operate with broken session, probably we need one | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll create a bug and try to write a logstash query to spot this bug. | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | We were having trouble with logstash last week and couldn't make it work. | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will create a bug for rollback after broken session and try to write logstash query. | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | Since the API test was "fixed" with another patch, we run the risk of this problem being forgotten about. You know, out of sight, out of mind. | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Otherwise, let's make sure we get a few rechecks on the latest version of the migration. | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | Hopefully, those continue to go well. | 15:53 |
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| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: yeah, it is better to fix rollback before merging migration | 15:54 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Do you think you'll have any time to write a test? | 15:55 |
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| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: I'll try to find time for that during next couple of days | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Thanks. | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | Let me know if you need anything. | 15:56 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: sure | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I think that's it. | 15:57 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin, pavel_bondar Thanks | 15:57 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:57 |
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| mlavalle | any topics to discuss in the 3 minutes we have left? | 15:58 |
| john-davidge | I take back what i said earlier about model/db sync issues, gate tests have passed. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337851 is ready for review | 15:58 |
| john-davidge | (service subnets) | 15:58 |
| mlavalle | ok, Thanks for attending. Have a nice rest of the week | 15:59 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 14 15:59:14 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-07-14-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-07-14-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-07-14-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
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| cdent | #startmeeting api-wg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 14 16:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| elmiko | o/ | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
| cdent | #chair elmiko | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent elmiko | 16:00 |
| cdent | anyone else here for the api-wg meeting besides me and elmiko? | 16:00 |
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| cdent | #link agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:01 |
| cdent | looks like that is last time's agenda | 16:01 |
| gouthamr | hey o/ | 16:01 |
| cdent | hi gouthamr | 16:01 |
| gouthamr | hi cdent! | 16:02 |
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| cdent | You have something you hope to discuss today, or just here for the good times and company? | 16:02 |
| gouthamr | haha, nope.. nothing to discuss today | 16:03 |
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| cdent | I'm in my 4th of 5 weeks of travel so haven't not been terribly api-wg active. Next week I'll be unable to attend the meeting because of nova midcycle. | 16:03 |
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| elmiko | wow, i hope it's travel for fun? | 16:04 |
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| cdent | first half was family stuff: brother's wedding etc, second half is nova stuff. both halves fun in their own way | 16:04 |
| elmiko | nice! | 16:04 |
| elmiko | i don't think we have any changes on the guidelines from last time, is that accurate? | 16:05 |
| cdent | I will, however, be glad when I get home and back to a routine from the comfort of home. | 16:05 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:05 |
| cdent | yes, that's accurate | 16:05 |
| gouthamr | oh, i did have one question.. i'm *still* interested in knowing whatever happened to 'service-type-registry' <- the thing that cropped up after our disagreements with service names being used in the microversion header, as opposed to service types. | 16:05 |
| elmiko | i thought those changes went through and we have a repo for it, but that was awhile ago | 16:05 |
| gouthamr | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286089/4 | 16:05 |
| gouthamr | 'service-types-authority' | 16:06 |
| cdent | gouthamr: that's still pending as part of the service catalog next generation stuff, but is kind of on hold while sdague and other interested parties attend to more fundamental things like docs being wrong | 16:06 |
| cdent | I think people still think it is important but, like so many things, there's not enough time. | 16:06 |
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| gouthamr | ah. makes sense.. thank you! | 16:07 |
| cdent | I suspect when we hit another argument, it will rise back to the surface :) | 16:07 |
| elmiko | hehe, most likely | 16:08 |
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| gouthamr | :) | 16:08 |
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| cdent | I _still_ haven't had a chance to resolve the details ambiguity on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322194/ but it remains on my list. | 16:09 |
| elmiko | ack | 16:11 |
| cdent | do we want to cook a newsletter or since we have nothing new to say should we skip it? | 16:11 |
| elmiko | such a good question | 16:11 |
| elmiko | i mean, we probably /should/ spin another, but it will mostly be the same as last time | 16:12 |
| cdent | I think if they always look the same people won't see them, so I'd vote for skip. | 16:13 |
| elmiko | i don't have a strong opinion on this one | 16:13 |
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| elmiko | we need a "help! we need more people" email... | 16:14 |
| elmiko | or maybe just add that to the newsletter. "nothing happened because there are only a couple people sorta working on this" | 16:15 |
| cdent | I suppose one way to do that would be to add a summary of the launchpad issues to the newsletter (there are N bugs, if you wanna help look there, here's two we think are interesting) in some fashion | 16:16 |
| elmiko | that's a really nice idea | 16:16 |
| * cdent looks at the bugs | 16:17 | |
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| cdent | There are 19 bugs. Highlighted topics include a need for an acceptable guideline on pagination and some history and advice on why extensions have not worked and should not be used. | 16:19 |
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| cdent | or something in the vein | 16:19 |
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| elmiko | hmm, that pagination thing really needs to move along. we just ran across that in sahara too | 16:20 |
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| cdent | I'm being called away here in the real world, apologies. Maybe that's enough to at least add a useful paragraph? | 16:20 |
| elmiko | i agree. i'll take a look at sending out another newsletter | 16:21 |
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| elmiko | take care o/ | 16:21 |
| cdent | thanks | 16:21 |
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| elmiko | ok, i'm gonna end this meeting. thanks for coming out gouthamr ! | 16:27 |
| gouthamr | cya elmiko | 16:27 |
| elmiko | o/ | 16:27 |
| elmiko | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 14 16:27:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:27 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-07-14-16.00.html | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-07-14-16.00.txt | 16:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-07-14-16.00.log.html | 16:27 |
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| docaedo | courtesy ping for sslypushenko ddovbii__ igormarnat_ kzaitsev_mb kfox1111 olaph | 17:01 |
| docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 14 17:01:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:01 | |
| sslypushenko | o/ | 17:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'app_catalog' | 17:01 |
| olaph | o/ | 17:01 |
| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:01 |
| docaedo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/app-catalog#Proposed_Agenda_for_July_14th.2C_2016_.281700_UTC.29 Agenda | 17:01 |
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| docaedo | #topic Status updates | 17:01 |
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| docaedo | We have on the agenda later specific glare updates from sskripnick | 17:02 |
| docaedo | are there any other updates to share outside that? | 17:02 |
| kzaitsev_mb | kfox1111 did a nice write up on the dashboard structure this week | 17:02 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/apps-dashboard-structure | 17:02 |
| igormarnat_ | o/ | 17:02 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I've got to read it more carefully and comment a bit | 17:03 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 17:03 |
| docaedo | oh that's great! I was traveling for work this week so have been a little disconnected | 17:03 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: would appreciate if you would find a bit of time to look at it =) | 17:03 |
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| docaedo | I will | 17:04 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I haven't updated the dashboard patches [ they're still red =( ] but planning to do that =) | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | murano one is going to be a lot of renaming %) | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | like really a lot of renaming ))) | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I think that's all from my side of things ) | 17:06 |
| docaedo | any other updates? | 17:06 |
| docaedo | anyone else have other stuff to share? | 17:06 |
| mfedosin | oh yes | 17:06 |
| mfedosin | Glare spec was merged today | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | yay! | 17:07 |
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| mfedosin | and that's great, because we are not in limbo anymore | 17:07 |
| docaedo | oh yeah I saw that! | 17:08 |
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| mfedosin | also we had a meeting with Heat and Murano teams and agreed on a few things: | 17:08 |
| docaedo | but we still do not expect glare code to be merged before barcelona right? | 17:08 |
| mfedosin | it has to be merged before 29th of July | 17:09 |
| mfedosin | it's a deadline for us :) | 17:09 |
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| docaedo | oh that's really good news, I did not expect that | 17:10 |
| mfedosin | but community is positive to these changes | 17:10 |
| mfedosin | currently we are concentrated on writing tests | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | even more yay! | 17:11 |
| mfedosin | so, about our agreements... | 17:11 |
| mfedosin | 1. artifact types shouldn't be stored in app-catalog | 17:11 |
| docaedo | where would they be stored? | 17:12 |
| mfedosin | currently they are https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337633/5/contrib/glare/openstack_app_catalog/artifacts.py | 17:12 |
| mfedosin | we have 4 types: murano, heat, tosca, glance | 17:12 |
| mfedosin | heat will be stored in glare repo | 17:12 |
| mfedosin | other will have own repos | 17:13 |
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| mfedosin | it's done because we don't want types incompatibility | 17:13 |
| mfedosin | I mean it's not good when there are two types for murano - one in app-catalog and one in murano itself | 17:14 |
| docaedo | "other will have own repos" .. you mean different entire repository just for storing an artifact type definition? | 17:14 |
| mfedosin | yep, and it's primarily murano requirement | 17:14 |
| docaedo | I agree we should try to make these shared and the same everywhere | 17:14 |
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| docaedo | I'm just slightly confused about how to control that, and how we manage it from the app-catalog side | 17:15 |
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| docaedo | especially since I expect we will continue to add new artifact types over time - why wouldn't those definitions live in glance repo? | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: yep, basically to make life easier for different packagers | 17:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we've had our share of pain because our glare plugin lives inside murano repo | 17:16 |
| docaedo | but if it's all central and dependent to glare, shouldn't details like the artifact type live in glare? | 17:16 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | and it means that we had to explain deb/rpm and even kolla packagers why it's like that and how to package that plugin and that it actually depends on glance code, rather than murano code | 17:17 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: I'm thinking that in murano we're going to have a separate repo and we would be able to add both glance-core and murano-core to the list of cores | 17:18 |
| mfedosin | and app-catalog cores as well | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: basicaly it's the choice between how fast you go how stable you are. At least that's what I thought =) | 17:18 |
| docaedo | right, so heat in glare repo is great, murano and others should be in glare repo too - that's what I don't understand, what is the advantage of having new/different repos just for an artifact definition that we want to be shared across all uses? | 17:18 |
| docaedo | from the app catalog side I want artifact definitions to be just about set in stone, they should rarely (or never) change | 17:19 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: I'm not insisting on having app-catalog in a separate repo =) | 17:20 |
| mfedosin | artifact type is not just a description of artifact - it may have some actions, like data validation and conversion | 17:20 |
| mfedosin | so they may be updated | 17:20 |
| docaedo | that's a huge concern then | 17:20 |
| docaedo | huge | 17:21 |
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| mfedosin | and I think no one will allow us to sore image artifact type in glare, because after that glare will compete with glance and provide another image api | 17:21 |
| docaedo | that means someone could change a definition that causes glare to take some action on the app-catalog server, and these definitions would be spread out across multiple repos with different sets of reviewers | 17:22 |
| docaedo | mfedosin: so glare couldn't store image types because it competes with glance? That doesn't make sense. | 17:22 |
| mfedosin | I think we should add an option in Glare that prevents custom logic in artifact types | 17:25 |
| kzaitsev_mb | oh, now I see — the question is about not having a asset type at all, but rather having a bunch of differnt types and reusing them in a.o.o | 17:25 |
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| mfedosin | after that artifact types will behave like a structure | 17:25 |
| docaedo | I agree, I can tell you if it's possible to embed some control and actions into an artifact definition that we don't closely control from the app catalog, we can't host that | 17:25 |
| mfedosin | without any code execution | 17:26 |
| docaedo | +1 | 17:26 |
| kzaitsev_mb | yep, sounds fair — disabling custom logic feels like a good security feature for glare then | 17:27 |
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| docaedo | I think I agree with this now as long as we can ensure glare is not executing any code based on artifact definitions that exist outside of the app-catalog deployment | 17:28 |
| mfedosin | agree, it's doable | 17:30 |
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| docaedo | great :) | 17:30 |
| mfedosin | and also we decided to put all catalog properties in Base glare class | 17:31 |
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| docaedo | that makes sense to me | 17:31 |
| mfedosin | like license, provided_by etc | 17:32 |
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| mfedosin | so we don't need to implement BaseAsset class https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337633/5/contrib/glare/openstack_app_catalog/artifacts.py@68 | 17:32 |
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| docaedo | works for me | 17:33 |
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| docaedo | I think we can skip the next topic I had then, since you've said glare bits will be merged by end of month? You said it's a requirement, who's requirement, part of the project? | 17:34 |
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| mfedosin | OpenStack policies | 17:34 |
| mfedosin | it's a feature freeze for openstack projects | 17:35 |
| mfedosin | so only bug fixes are allowed after this date | 17:35 |
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| docaedo | oh great, so it will get the reviews it needs? | 17:35 |
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| mfedosin | not yet, but it will | 17:35 |
| docaedo | excellent | 17:35 |
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| mfedosin | code doesn't affect glance, it's a plus for us | 17:36 |
| docaedo | I was going to talk more about our options for deploying code that's still under review | 17:36 |
| docaedo | but we don't need to, which is good - because our best option was going to be a new github repo with a fork :) | 17:37 |
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| docaedo | #topic Glare 0.1 API status (sskripnick) | 17:37 |
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| docaedo | I don't see sskripnick here, anyone else able to provide a status update on this? | 17:38 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | shouldn't it be 1.0? =) | 17:38 |
| mfedosin | he's sick leave today | 17:38 |
| docaedo | UNACCEPTABLE! | 17:38 |
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| docaedo | There are no sick days in app catalog! | 17:39 |
| docaedo | haha ok .. we can move on to... | 17:39 |
| docaedo | #topic Mascot for the catalog | 17:39 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | oh, i have to do the same for murano... | 17:40 |
| mfedosin | lemongrab? | 17:40 |
| docaedo | Should we start an etherpad? Does anyone have strong opinions? I like this one: | 17:40 |
| docaedo | http://www.boredpanda.com/quokka-selfie-trend-cute-rodent-australia/ | 17:40 |
| docaedo | even though it's a possible release name, it's also the cutest damn animal on the planet, and it would be nice to associate the app catalog with that :) | 17:41 |
| mfedosin | http://pre03.deviantart.net/e6fa/th/pre/i/2013/012/e/e/the_earl_of_lemongrab_by_darthguyford-d5r9gts.jpg | 17:41 |
| olaph | yay quokka | 17:41 |
| docaedo | mfedosin: hahahaha | 17:41 |
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| docaedo | an alternative could be a kangaroo with a pouch full of apps :) But I don't think it matters TOO much | 17:42 |
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| docaedo | quick vote - who wants an etherpad to submit ideas? | 17:42 |
| kzaitsev_mb | quokka is hard to beat, yeah | 17:42 |
| igormarnat_ | I also thought about kangoo with the bag of apps:) | 17:42 |
| docaedo | woot! | 17:43 |
| docaedo | haha igormarnat_ we think the same! | 17:43 |
| kzaitsev_mb | igormarnat_: just what I was thinking | 17:43 |
| kzaitsev_mb | =) | 17:43 |
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| docaedo | Event hough the quokka is cute, a kangaroo with a pouch full of apps sounds pretty appealing to me | 17:43 |
| docaedo | (and I figure we should pick that fast, because other teams are probably thinking the same thing - kangaroo is always a good mascot!) | 17:44 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and let's face it — no one knows what a quokka is, untill he sees the pics ) | 17:44 |
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| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: true | 17:44 |
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| olaph | I was thinking off long cat, as it used almost the same letters as catalog | 17:46 |
| docaedo | what's a long cat? Like a cat that got stretched out? | 17:46 |
| olaph | man, you really do live under a rock... | 17:47 |
| igormarnat_ | Like this one? http://img.memecdn.com/Long-Cat-Is-Long_o_103864.jpg | 17:47 |
| sslypushenko | +1 for the cat) everybody love cats) | 17:47 |
| kzaitsev_mb | app 🐱alog | 17:47 |
| docaedo | oh man that's scary | 17:48 |
| docaedo | Doesn't the animal have to exist in nature? :P | 17:48 |
| docaedo | sounds like I need to start an etherpad so we can all share ideas... | 17:48 |
| kzaitsev_mb | you'll have to have unicode font for my option =) | 17:49 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | with emoji %) | 17:49 |
| docaedo | haha | 17:49 |
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| docaedo | #action docaedo to create etherpad and share with ML for agreeing on app catalog mascot | 17:49 |
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| igormarnat_ | docaedo: mfedosin so do you, folks, have any ideas when we could launch beta version of app catalog with new backend? In several weeks? | 17:51 |
| docaedo | #topic Open discussion | 17:51 |
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| mfedosin | igormarnat_: yes, we will start working on it from Monday | 17:52 |
| mfedosin | sskripnick is sick this week | 17:52 |
| docaedo | mfedosin: that's great, let me know how I can help, and definitely keep a discussion going on the #openstack-app-catalog channel about installation requirements | 17:53 |
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| igormarnat_ | Ok. I wanted to send an update to community with the status of our initiative of improving collaboration around apps development, and switching of catalog is a blocker for more than half of it | 17:53 |
| docaedo | if we have it boiled down to a simple shell script, I can take that and turn it into puppet, which we will need for infra | 17:53 |
| igormarnat_ | So wanted to have something up and running before sending update across. I'll wait for several more days then | 17:54 |
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| mfedosin | we'll keep you informed | 17:55 |
| igormarnat_ | I hope so:) | 17:55 |
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| sslypushenko | docaedo: we almost run out of time, so I just ask you for re-review RefStack client app) | 17:56 |
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| docaedo | sslypushenko: yep, I'll do it right after the meeting | 17:56 |
| sslypushenko | Great thx! | 17:56 |
| docaedo | and we're just about out of time - thanks for coming everyone! | 17:57 |
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| docaedo | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 14 17:58:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-07-14-17.01.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-07-14-17.01.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-07-14-17.01.log.html | 17:58 |
| igormarnat_ | Thank you, folks, bye! | 17:58 |
| olaph | thanks docaedo! | 17:58 |
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| rkukura | hi GBP’ers! | 18:01 |
| hemanthravi | hi | 18:01 |
| igordcard | hi | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hemanthravi: hi | 18:03 |
| igordcard | hi SumitNaiksatam | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: hi | 18:03 |
| igordcard | I need to drop off now, no qos updates yet | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | having issues with my connectivity | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sorry for the late start | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: np | 18:03 |
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| igordcard | sorry, thanks | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | waiting for the bot to start | 18:04 |
| fungi | the bot is present | 18:05 |
| fungi | #endmeeting | 18:06 |
| fungi | looks like the default topic needs cleaning up but that shouldn't keep it from working | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | fungi: we noticed the earlier meeting was ended | 18:06 |
| fungi | try not having a space before #startmeeting | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | fungi: ah :-) | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 14 18:06:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:07 |
| rkukura | thanks fungi ! | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | fungi: there you go thanks :-) | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will be careful in the future | 18:07 |
| fungi | my pleasure | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic UT failures reported on Xenial | 18:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099138.html | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this was reported a couple of days back | 18:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and some of us have been trying to get the bottom on this | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: thanks for pointing us to this, and the updates thereafter | 18:09 |
| clarkb | Ohai. Its possible I tracked down what was causing that locally | 18:09 |
| clarkb | and will have to see if dougwig also has a similar issue | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: ah ok, the host name thingy? | 18:10 |
| clarkb | tests are currently running to cofirm or deny this will let you know | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: sure | 18:10 |
| clarkb | yes, my local setup did not use config drive whcih glean in the infra images depends on to set the hostname properkly | 18:10 |
| clarkb | so I had an /etc/hostname but no entries for it in /etc/hosts | 18:10 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: ah okay | 18:11 |
| dougwig | i'm sure my /etc/hosts is wrong. | 18:11 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: wrong as in not populated or inconsistent entries? | 18:12 |
| dougwig | not populated. | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: ah ok | 18:13 |
| dougwig | only fails on first run, with all tests. subsequent runs pass. | 18:13 |
| dougwig | it's a weird bug. | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: clarkb: i am just comparing with my setup | 18:13 |
| dougwig | it's something in the setup phase of neutron testlib, not gbp. | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i picked up the default hostname | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and my /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname seem to be populated correctly | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but i am still seeing the issue when i run the tests in parallel | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: we were explicitly setting the testlib_api._TABLES_ESTABLISHED in one place, and we removed that | 18:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: i have: “127.0.1.1 ubuntu” in my /etc/hostnames and /etc/hosts has “ubuntu”, so that should be good, right? | 18:17 |
| clarkb | SumitNaiksatam: yes | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: okay | 18:17 |
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| rkukura | shouldn’t that be 127.0.0.1? | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: dougwig: i just realized that we could have experimental gate jobs for Xenial, so i am going to post a patch to get that started for GBP right after this meeting | 18:19 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: good catch, i did not change that | 18:19 |
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| clarkb | rkukura: SumitNaiksatam it depends is the answer | 18:19 |
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| clarkb | ubuntu + dnsmasq + network manager use 127.0.1.1 | 18:20 |
| clarkb | I don't know why | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: ah okay, mu localhost is 127.0.0.1 | 18:20 |
| clarkb | either way should work since that entire /8 is absically the same thing | 18:20 |
| clarkb | (on linux) | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: okay | 18:20 |
| rkukura | could them being different IPs break something somewhere? | 18:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i can try to make it consistent, just to rule any other bug out | 18:24 |
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| rkukura | On my ubuntu system, ‘ip addr’ and /etc/hosts both use 127.0.0.1, so I’d try making these match | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: dougwig: so if you have any further thoughts on this please do let us know, otherwise we will keep plugging at this and see how far we get | 18:26 |
| dougwig | sorry, was on phone. reading scrollback | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: np | 18:26 |
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| dougwig | when was that test change merged? | 18:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/group-based-policy/commit/?id=696005faaee1670083fe921325399e4607a4ab20 | 18:28 |
| dougwig | looking on my test host, i do not see gbp unit failures. mine were in networking-cisco. i think i was running all three at the same time, making my slow VM cry. | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: :-) | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: you are brave | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: i believe we dont have any more explicit references to testlib_api | 18:30 |
| dougwig | i'm fairly certain that it's not a gbp root issue, based on the failure paths. | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: okay | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hemanthravi: since this is a burning issue, i dont have anything else of higher priority to discuss today | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hemanthravi: if there is nothing else, we can wrap early today and i can go back to digging more into this issue | 18:33 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam: no | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: i saw an email from the vmware-NSX folks earlier today saying their tests are passing | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: do you happen to know if they had to change anything? | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it did not seem like they had to | 18:35 |
| hemanthravi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327033, making changes to make this restrictive | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: yes, saw the update earlier today | 18:35 |
| hemanthravi | running into a test failure, will send out an email once this is resolved | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: it will be good for ivar to take a look at this since he was asking me about it earlier | 18:36 |
| dougwig | i think it's timing/order/load related, so running it once and seeing it work is unfortunately not a great repro test. but not using testlib anymore probably shields you entirely. | 18:36 |
| hemanthravi | update on the config pathces, working on moving them to contrib and should be done in 2-3 days | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay, looking forward to those | 18:36 |
| dougwig | the bug is because create_all isn't being called to populate the tables in the in memory sqlite, which is entirely a testlib/sqltestcase thing. | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: although we removed the explicit reference, we might still be using via some inheritence hierarchy | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: the tests on which this fails, we are explicitly calling the create_all | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: the other wierd thing is that it sometimes fails in the clean_up | 18:37 |
| dougwig | oh i see, so you're not using the setup/teardown logic in the underlying class? interesting. do the same calls happen? | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: where it tries to clean up a table, which presumably it thinks exists, but that table doesnt | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: looking for an example to point to you | 18:39 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: here is an example: #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/group-based-policy/tree/gbpservice/neutron/tests/unit/services/grouppolicy/test_apic_mapping.py?id=696005faaee1670083fe921325399e4607a4ab20#n130 | 18:41 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: dougwig: rkukura: i will end this GBP meeting now, but both, rkukura and I will continue to pursue this, and will be around to discuss | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 14 18:44:35 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:44 |
| rkukura | bye | 18:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-07-14-18.06.html | 18:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-07-14-18.06.txt | 18:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-07-14-18.06.log.html | 18:44 |
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| maishsk | Good evening - who is here for the AUC meeting? | 19:01 |
| dc_mattj | I am | 19:01 |
| MeganR | o/ | 19:01 |
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| maishsk | #startmeeting auc | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 14 19:02:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is maishsk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: auc)" | 19:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'auc' | 19:02 |
| shamail | Hi everyone | 19:02 |
| dc_mattj | hey | 19:02 |
| maishsk | #chair shamail | 19:02 |
| MeganR | Hi | 19:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: maishsk shamail | 19:02 |
| maishsk | hi shamail | 19:03 |
| shamail | maishsk: do you want to lead this meeting? | 19:03 |
| dc_mattj | apologies I missed the last meeting | 19:03 |
| shamail | np, it was just MeganR and I… yet we still made progress :) | 19:03 |
| MeganR | I asked a bunch of questions!! :) | 19:03 |
| maishsk | np shamail | 19:04 |
| maishsk | So agenda for today | 19:04 |
| shamail | Awesome, all yours. | 19:04 |
| maishsk | #link#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/AUCRecognition#Meeting_Information | 19:05 |
| maishsk | First up | 19:05 |
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| maishsk | #topic Update on centralized data source proposal by Tom Fifield (MeganR) | 19:05 |
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| maishsk | MeganR: would you like to give us an update? | 19:06 |
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| MeganR | They are working on centralizing the data obtained for ease of pulling the AUC information. The information they are pulling looks good. | 19:06 |
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| MeganR | - slow typer - | 19:06 |
| MeganR | We also talked about how to track WG participation for teams not currently using IRC, and looks like the decision is to go really high tech: Google Docs | 19:07 |
| maishsk | :) | 19:07 |
| maishsk | super hi-tech | 19:07 |
| MeganR | there are only a few teams that don't use IRC, so the Google Doc will track active attendance/participation, but will not allow us to count lines in IRC | 19:08 |
| shamail | MeganR: How about a google forms? (I know, I am now going bleeding edge…) | 19:08 |
| MeganR | lol - whoa, I need a min to take that in :) | 19:08 |
| shamail | We could have a link to a form where WG chairs could put in the WG name and list all members in one place. | 19:09 |
| shamail | This would automatically give us categorized data :) | 19:09 |
| MeganR | I don't know Google Forms, but can take a look at it this next week - like that idea | 19:09 |
| MeganR | maybe we can use it for the indiv. submissions as well. | 19:09 |
| shamail | All good, happy to help if you want | 19:09 |
| shamail | MeganR: +1 | 19:09 |
| MeganR | you might regret that - thank you! | 19:09 |
| shamail | lol | 19:09 |
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| maishsk | Megan you mentioned that the info they are pulling looks good. | 19:10 |
| maishsk | In what way? | 19:10 |
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| MeganR | Tom went through what we are focusing on for "AUC Criteria" and how they will put that info into the person's profile | 19:11 |
| MeganR | still some manual processes, but helps in automating some of the data - and having it for "historical" purposes as well | 19:12 |
| maishsk | Good to hear | 19:12 |
| dc_mattj | will that data be publicly available ? | 19:12 |
| MeganR | I don't know | 19:12 |
| shamail | Yes, I believe so | 19:12 |
| MeganR | cool | 19:13 |
| maishsk | Anything on this topic or shall we move on ? | 19:13 |
| maishsk | else * | 19:13 |
| MeganR | I'm all done - unless there are questions | 19:13 |
| shamail | The plan (please correct me if I am wrong MeganR) is to capture metrics for IRC meetings/lines, commits to UC repos, user group organization, ops-summit mods, etc. and make them all accessible via API from the person’s profile | 19:13 |
| maishsk | #topic Milestone-5 update | 19:13 |
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| MeganR | shamail: you are right | 19:14 |
| * maishsk jumped the gun. …. . .. | 19:14 | |
| shamail | Not at all, we were done. | 19:14 |
| maishsk | ok so I started to draft a proposal for the review board | 19:14 |
| maishsk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc-recog-m5-output | 19:14 |
| * maishsk waits for everyone to go and have a look at the link | 19:15 | |
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| maishsk | The idea was to create a group of members, and uneven number. Majority of the representation will be from the UC - but also representation from the TC and the Openstack Foundation employees | 19:16 |
| maishsk | That way we have the complete openstack community involvement | 19:16 |
| * shamail flips over to etherpad | 19:17 | |
| maishsk | There are still a few things that we need to iron out and that I put under the ‘Things to consider’ | 19:17 |
| dc_mattj | maishsk, looks good | 19:17 |
| shamail | maishsk: I would suggest also adding at least 1-2 people from the user organizers community (e.g. ambassadors), WG chairs, AskOpenStack Mods, Ops-Meetup organizers | 19:17 |
| shamail | this would ensure that we have a SME from the represented activity on the panel too | 19:18 |
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| dc_mattj | I suspect there won't be many of these, but good to have it defined anyway | 19:18 |
| maishsk | shamail: works for me - I just don’t want to have too big of a body that needs to review - as long as we keep it under 10 | 19:18 |
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| shamail | maishsk: +1 | 19:19 |
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| maishsk | Please feel free to add something to etherpas with suggestions and improvements. | 19:21 |
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| maishsk | If you don’t all mind - we should leave this open for comments an discussion on the etherpad until next meeting - and then summarize? | 19:21 |
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| maishsk | Are there any points on there that you feel we need to disucss today? | 19:22 |
| shamail | The nomination date | 19:22 |
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| shamail | I was going to bring that up during the next topic anyway | 19:22 |
| shamail | but it has implications for this topic too | 19:22 |
| maishsk | the floor is yours shamail | 19:22 |
| shamail | When do we want to do “cut-off” for AUC (e.g. when will we run scripts and say this is the final list)? The nomination period probably needs to start after that. | 19:23 |
| shamail | This way the only people that self-nominate are the ones who didnt get AUC | 19:23 |
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| shamail | ATC passes are already going out for Barcelona | 19:23 |
| shamail | and I believe they do it in waves | 19:23 |
| maishsk | So the obvious question for me is are we looking to follow the same cycle the ATC? | 19:23 |
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| shamail | I think that makes sense to me maishsk | 19:24 |
| maishsk | every six months - based on a OpenStack release? | 19:24 |
| shamail | That is for sure. | 19:24 |
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| shamail | My question is about when in that six month period to we build our list | 19:24 |
| shamail | we cant wait until the end because then people won’t get AUC in time for the summit | 19:24 |
| maishsk | Does anyone know how the list is built for the ATC? What that process is? | 19:24 |
| shamail | They have already started I believe | 19:24 |
| shamail | but they do 3-4 waves | 19:25 |
| shamail | so I think they run their scripts 3-4 times during the release (maybe each milestone?) | 19:25 |
| MeganR | do you know what waves are used for ATC - I believe cores and such receive status first - can we assign equivalents to those waves | 19:25 |
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| shamail | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 19:25 |
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| shamail | My recommendation would be to align with each release’s Feature Freeze date | 19:26 |
| maishsk | What I dont understand - is are we talking about the initial AUC - or the cycles thereafter (if there is actually any difference - I don’t know) | 19:26 |
| shamail | We don’t have as many AUCs as ATCs so even one run (near the end) should work | 19:26 |
| shamail | both, I don’t think there will be a difference maishsk | 19:26 |
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| shamail | we just need to find a consistent point in time for each release to compile our list | 19:27 |
| maishsk | So I would suggest is to use the tried and tested method that Openstack already uses for ATC - keep to the same schedule | 19:27 |
| MeganR | I think it would make the most sense to align to the ATC schedule for future cycles | 19:27 |
| shamail | If we align with FF then that would mean we identify AUCs (via manual and automated ways) by 08/02/16 (for this release) | 19:27 |
| maishsk | That is tight | 19:28 |
| MeganR | wow - that is tight | 19:28 |
| maishsk | ;) | 19:28 |
| shamail | Yep | 19:28 |
| MeganR | I think we could be there by Sept. | 19:28 |
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| shamail | I have a pre-lim list going (which I will give details on in the next topic) | 19:28 |
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| shamail | Okay so how about we align with RC-1 date? | 19:28 |
| shamail | This would be 9/12 for this release | 19:29 |
| shamail | I will take an action to reach out to UC and Tom to find out if that is enough room for them as well | 19:29 |
| maishsk | I think that is reasonable | 19:29 |
| MeganR | +1 on the date | 19:29 |
| shamail | We are balancing our ability to collect the data and the UC’s ability to have the list with enough advance notice to do something with it | 19:29 |
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| maishsk | #action shamail to reach to tom F to see if the proposed date will work for them | 19:30 |
| shamail | #action shamail to contact UC with tentative date of 9/12 for AUC list | 19:30 |
| shamail | oops, sorry maishsk | 19:30 |
| maishsk | ;) | 19:30 |
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| maishsk | ok then - next topic | 19:30 |
| maishsk | #topic Update on preliminary count | 19:30 |
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| shamail | Thanks maishsk | 19:31 |
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| shamail | Sorry, I am now in two meetings at once | 19:31 |
| shamail | will be a little slower than usual :) | 19:31 |
| shamail | So I have spent time this week updating the uc-recognition scripts to reflect the AUC criteria | 19:32 |
| shamail | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341958/ | 19:33 |
| shamail | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341958/ | 19:33 |
| shamail | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341955/ | 19:33 |
| shamail | Here is what I have so far for counts (am still updating scrpts to ensure we dont miss any WGs, repos, etc.) | 19:34 |
| shamail | I set the start date for the scripts to 04/08/2016 (the day after Mitaka release) | 19:35 |
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| shamail | Active WG member count: 41 | 19:35 |
| shamail | Ask OpenStack Moderators: 20 | 19:35 |
| shamail | Commiters to user story repos: 16 | 19:35 |
| shamail | I have not collected data for ops meetup moderators, superuser contributors, and user group organizers since those will be manual | 19:35 |
| shamail | I am going to send emails this week to get that data | 19:36 |
| shamail | The running total so far is 77 | 19:36 |
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| shamail | which is very low so I am thinking my scripts are off (even though I am double/triple checking) | 19:36 |
| MeganR | wow - thought it would be higher | 19:36 |
| MeganR | :) | 19:36 |
| shamail | Will keep the team posted but thats what I have for now | 19:37 |
| shamail | Any questions? | 19:37 |
| maishsk | It is a start - and I think that number will grow - especially after the first round. | 19:37 |
| maishsk | I would expect that number to cross over the 100 easily with all the manual peices we collect | 19:38 |
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| MeganR | a really good start, it's good to have some numbers to correlate with what we have identified | 19:38 |
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| maishsk | It will be interesting to see what comes back after the email rounds. | 19:38 |
| shamail | I am really worried that the numbers are so low | 19:38 |
| shamail | since Tom had mentioned osmething like 400+? | 19:39 |
| shamail | I am thinking the date adjustments I did made the differene | 19:39 |
| shamail | difference* | 19:39 |
| maishsk | shamail - what about the ops repos? | 19:39 |
| shamail | accounted for | 19:39 |
| shamail | lots of commits | 19:39 |
| shamail | but from like 2-3 people | 19:39 |
| maishsk | interesting | 19:39 |
| shamail | same thing with user stories repo even | 19:39 |
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| shamail | I have to drop for now | 19:41 |
| shamail | sorry | 19:41 |
| maishsk | Thanks shamail | 19:42 |
| MeganR | bye | 19:42 |
| shamail | Take care! | 19:42 |
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| maishsk | Well there was nothing else on the agenda for today - unless someone wants to raise a topic? | 19:42 |
| MeganR | I'm good | 19:43 |
| maishsk | OK then so lets call it for today - and catch you all next week. | 19:45 |
| maishsk | Thanks everyone | 19:45 |
| maishsk | #endmeeting | 19:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 14 19:45:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/auc/2016/auc.2016-07-14-19.02.html | 19:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/auc/2016/auc.2016-07-14-19.02.txt | 19:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/auc/2016/auc.2016-07-14-19.02.log.html | 19:45 |
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| darrenc | ShillaSaebi, you around? | 21:34 |
| bsilverman | Hey Darren, exciting meeting so far :) | 21:34 |
| darrenc | hey bsilverman, yeah :) | 21:35 |
| rcaballeromx | Hello guys! | 21:35 |
| darrenc | hey rcaballeromx | 21:35 |
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| darrenc | l'll contact shilla | 21:35 |
| bsilverman | ok | 21:35 |
| rcaballeromx | Cool, thank you! | 21:36 |
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| bsilverman | darrenc: You can add my email address as ben.silverman@onx.com on the wiki | 21:39 |
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| darrenc | oh cool, will do | 21:39 |
| bsilverman | Still haven't heard from Shaun, he may be busy/vacation, I'll check facebook, see if he left any hints there. | 21:40 |
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| rcaballeromx | What Wiki, if I may inquire? | 21:41 |
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| bsilverman | rcaballeromx: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide | 21:41 |
| rcaballeromx | Thank you bsilvermann. | 21:42 |
| bsilverman | no problemo. | 21:42 |
| rcaballeromx | Now I follow. ;) | 21:42 |
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| bsilverman | rcaballeromx: estas aqui para la ops-guide reunio'n? | 21:43 |
| rcaballeromx | Si, para ver si puedo ayudar en algo. | 21:44 |
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| bsilverman | bueno. | 21:44 |
| rcaballeromx | Very good Spanish! | 21:44 |
| bsilverman | gracias, yo trato | 21:44 |
| rcaballeromx | Muy bien hecho. | 21:45 |
| bsilverman | gracias guey | 21:45 |
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| rcaballeromx | Sollen wir dann Deutsch auch versuchen? | 21:46 |
| bsilverman | nein. | 21:46 |
| rcaballeromx | :D | 21:46 |
| bsilverman | Parle vous Francais? | 21:46 |
| rcaballeromx | Oui! | 21:46 |
| bsilverman | Je ne parle pas Francais :) | 21:47 |
| rcaballeromx | E io parlo Italiano presto! | 21:47 |
| darrenc | sorry guy, I was in another meeting | 21:47 |
| bsilverman | Itialian è molto simile allo spagnolo | 21:48 |
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| darrenc | so who is here for the ops/arch guide meeting? | 21:48 |
| * bsilverman raises hand. | 21:48 | |
| * rcaballeromx as well. | 21:48 | |
| darrenc | I'm not sure what the quorum is | 21:50 |
| darrenc | perhaps I can chair the meeting | 21:50 |
| rcaballeromx | If it's only us, I don't think there is a point. | 21:51 |
| bsilverman | darrenc: Are there any agenda items we can help with? | 21:52 |
| rcaballeromx | I saw some system logs bugs, but I cannot help with those right now... | 21:52 |
| bsilverman | and by parliamentary procedure, absent of a charter that calls out minimum for quorum, the chair determines if those present constitute a quorum. | 21:53 |
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| darrenc | well the chair is not here :P | 21:54 |
| rcaballeromx | No quorum then. | 21:54 |
| bsilverman | darrenc: again, if the established chair isn't present, you can chair. | 21:55 |
| rcaballeromx | I'm not even officially on the team. :P | 21:55 |
| bsilverman | My suggestion would be go over what the needs are right now, see if we can assign me or rcaballeromx any tasks and call it. | 21:56 |
| darrenc | ok, we'll give the meeting a miss, but happy to discuss ops and arch guide | 21:56 |
| darrenc | yep sounds good | 21:56 |
| darrenc | can we do this in #openstack-doc | 21:56 |
| bsilverman | I will be seeing Shilla on Monday anyway | 21:56 |
| rcaballeromx | Sure, I'll move ther. | 21:56 |
| bsilverman | okay | 21:56 |
| darrenc | bsilverman: ahh, great | 21:56 |
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