| *** rossella_s has quit IRC | 00:00 | |
| *** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 00:00 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 00:04 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 00:04 | |
| *** armax has quit IRC | 00:09 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 00:10 | |
| *** alexismonville has quit IRC | 00:17 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 00:17 | |
| *** lazy_prince has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 00:18 | |
| *** lazy_prince has quit IRC | 00:22 | |
| *** banix has quit IRC | 00:22 | |
| *** mtanin___ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 00:28 | |
| *** doug-fish has quit IRC | 00:29 | |
| *** mtanino has quit IRC | 00:30 | |
| *** pvaneck has quit IRC | 00:31 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 00:55 | |
| *** lblanchard has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 00:56 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 00:59 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 01:03 | |
| *** banix has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:04 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 01:05 | |
| *** revon has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:06 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:07 | |
| *** zhurong has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:08 | |
| *** bpokorny_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:09 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 01:11 | |
| *** bpokorny has quit IRC | 01:12 | |
| *** sdake has quit IRC | 01:14 | |
| *** bpokorny_ has quit IRC | 01:14 | |
| *** pt_15 has quit IRC | 01:16 | |
| *** ajmiller_ has quit IRC | 01:18 | |
| *** banix has quit IRC | 01:19 | |
| *** ajmiller has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:20 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:21 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:27 | |
| *** ajmiller has quit IRC | 01:29 | |
| *** ajmiller has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:29 | |
| *** banix has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:29 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 01:34 | |
| *** banix has quit IRC | 01:39 | |
| *** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:42 | |
| *** mickeys has quit IRC | 01:43 | |
| *** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:44 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 01:44 | |
| *** mickeys has quit IRC | 01:45 | |
| *** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:45 | |
| *** s3wong has quit IRC | 01:49 | |
| *** mickeys has quit IRC | 01:50 | |
| *** uxdanielle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:50 | |
| *** mtanin___ has quit IRC | 01:52 | |
| *** armax has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:53 | |
| *** pt_15 has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:54 | |
| *** zhurong has quit IRC | 01:57 | |
| *** zhurong has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:58 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 01:59 | |
| *** claudiub has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 02:24 | |
| *** zhurong has quit IRC | 02:24 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 02:25 | |
| *** zhurong has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 02:26 | |
| *** amitkqed has quit IRC | 02:30 | |
| *** amitkqed has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 02:30 | |
| *** markvoelker_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 02:30 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 02:30 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 02:31 | |
| *** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 02:34 | |
| *** mickeys has quit IRC | 02:36 | |
| *** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 02:36 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 02:37 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 02:38 | |
| *** uxdanielle has quit IRC | 02:38 | |
| *** yushiro has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 02:40 | |
| *** mickeys has quit IRC | 02:41 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 02:43 | |
| *** yamahata has quit IRC | 02:52 | |
| *** iyamahat has quit IRC | 02:52 | |
| *** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck | 02:56 | |
| *** lazy_prince has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 03:00 | |
| *** Sukhdev has quit IRC | 03:01 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 03:02 | |
| *** lazy_prince has quit IRC | 03:05 | |
| *** lazy_prince has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 03:05 | |
| *** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck | 03:06 | |
| *** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 03:07 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 03:07 | |
| *** asettle has quit IRC | 03:13 | |
| *** lblanchard has quit IRC | 03:17 | |
| *** amotoki has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 03:27 | |
| *** coolsvap has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 03:28 | |
| *** yushiro has quit IRC | 03:29 | |
| *** dkehn_ has quit IRC | 03:46 | |
| *** kenji-i has quit IRC | 03:51 | |
| *** kenji-i_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 03:51 | |
| *** yushiro has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 03:59 | |
| *** yushiro has quit IRC | 03:59 | |
| *** dkehn_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 03:59 | |
| *** rossella_s has quit IRC | 04:00 | |
| *** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 04:00 | |
| *** Marcellin_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 04:02 | |
| *** claudiub has quit IRC | 04:05 | |
| *** anilvenkata has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 04:05 | |
| *** VW has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 04:10 | |
| *** markvoelker_ has quit IRC | 04:15 | |
| *** pt_15 has quit IRC | 04:16 | |
| *** julim has quit IRC | 04:19 | |
| *** armax has quit IRC | 04:21 | |
| *** VW has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** iyamahat has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 04:29 | |
| *** crinkle has quit IRC | 04:35 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 04:35 | |
| *** crinkle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 04:36 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 04:39 | |
| *** iyamahat has quit IRC | 04:43 | |
| *** abalutoiu has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 04:51 | |
| *** irenab has quit IRC | 04:57 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 05:02 | |
| *** flwang1 has quit IRC | 05:06 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 05:07 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 05:10 | |
| *** revon has quit IRC | 05:10 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 05:16 | |
| *** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 05:22 | |
| *** ihrachys has quit IRC | 05:25 | |
| *** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 05:26 | |
| *** Poornima has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 05:29 | |
| *** ihrachys has quit IRC | 05:38 | |
| *** derekjhyang has quit IRC | 05:42 | |
| *** flwang1 has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 05:52 | |
| *** irenab has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 05:52 | |
| *** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 05:55 | |
| *** ihrachys has quit IRC | 05:56 | |
| *** Poornima has quit IRC | 05:59 | |
| *** flwang1 has quit IRC | 06:03 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 06:03 | |
| *** numans has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 06:03 | |
| *** atuvenie_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 06:03 | |
| *** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 06:06 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 06:06 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 06:07 | |
| *** paul-carlton2 has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 06:08 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 06:13 | |
| *** cartik has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 06:18 | |
| *** tovchinnikova has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 06:21 | |
| *** Marcellin_ has quit IRC | 06:27 | |
| *** yushiro has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 06:33 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 06:36 | |
| *** pgadiya has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 06:37 | |
| *** cartik has quit IRC | 06:39 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 06:40 | |
| *** abalutoiu has quit IRC | 06:43 | |
| *** belmoreira has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 06:50 | |
| *** pgadiya has quit IRC | 07:01 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:02 | |
| *** RuiChen has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:04 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:04 | |
| *** pgadiya has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:07 | |
| *** itoader has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:08 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 07:08 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 07:08 | |
| *** abalutoiu has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:08 | |
| *** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck | 07:15 | |
| *** yushiro has left #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:21 | |
| *** ccamacho is now known as ccamacho|afk | 07:26 | |
| *** lpetrut has quit IRC | 07:26 | |
| *** abalutoiu_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:32 | |
| *** mrunge has quit IRC | 07:33 | |
| *** jlanoux has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:34 | |
| *** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck | 07:35 | |
| *** abalutoiu has quit IRC | 07:35 | |
| *** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:35 | |
| *** jlanoux has quit IRC | 07:36 | |
| *** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:37 | |
| *** jlanoux has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:37 | |
| *** abalutoiu has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:38 | |
| *** paul-carlton2 has quit IRC | 07:39 | |
| *** abalutoiu_ has quit IRC | 07:42 | |
| *** paul-carlton2 has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:43 | |
| *** aarefiev has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:43 | |
| *** lpetrut has quit IRC | 07:46 | |
| *** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck | 07:46 | |
| *** mrunge has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:48 | |
| *** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:52 | |
| *** mickeys_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:53 | |
| *** mickeys_ has quit IRC | 07:55 | |
| *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:56 | |
| *** mickeys has quit IRC | 07:57 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 07:58 | |
| *** hichihara has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:03 | |
| *** paul-carlton2 has quit IRC | 08:04 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 08:04 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:04 | |
| *** hecliunyx has quit IRC | 08:07 | |
| *** tangchen has quit IRC | 08:08 | |
| *** tangchen_ has quit IRC | 08:08 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 08:09 | |
| *** hecliunyx has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:09 | |
| *** edleafe has quit IRC | 08:10 | |
| *** mlekkas has quit IRC | 08:10 | |
| *** iyamahat has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:16 | |
| *** lekha has quit IRC | 08:16 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 08:17 | |
| *** tenobreg has quit IRC | 08:17 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:17 | |
| *** tenobreg has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:18 | |
| *** yamahata has quit IRC | 08:18 | |
| *** lekha has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:19 | |
| *** DuncanT has quit IRC | 08:19 | |
| *** DuncanT has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:20 | |
| *** tangchen has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:20 | |
| *** tangchen_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:20 | |
| *** fungi has quit IRC | 08:22 | |
| *** neiljerram has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:22 | |
| *** fungi has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:24 | |
| *** neiljerram has quit IRC | 08:24 | |
| *** edleafe has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:26 | |
| *** iyamahat has quit IRC | 08:27 | |
| *** paul-carlton2 has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:31 | |
| *** paul-carlton has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:34 | |
| *** pgadiya has quit IRC | 08:34 | |
| *** pgadiya has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:36 | |
| *** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:40 | |
| *** isq_ has quit IRC | 08:40 | |
| *** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:41 | |
| *** isq_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:41 | |
| *** neiljerram has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:45 | |
| *** mbound has quit IRC | 08:47 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:54 | |
| *** stendulker has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:54 | |
| *** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:55 | |
| *** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 08:56 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 09:00 | |
| *** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 09:02 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 09:05 | |
| *** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck | 09:09 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 09:10 | |
| *** tovchinnikova has quit IRC | 09:11 | |
| *** vhoward has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 09:14 | |
| *** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck | 09:19 | |
| *** mrmartin has quit IRC | 09:22 | |
| *** ihrachys has quit IRC | 09:27 | |
| *** ccamacho|afk is now known as ccamacho | 09:27 | |
| *** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 09:32 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 09:49 | |
| *** ajmiller has quit IRC | 09:51 | |
| *** paul-carlton has quit IRC | 09:52 | |
| *** ajmiller has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 09:52 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 09:56 | |
| *** sdague has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:02 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:06 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 10:06 | |
| *** zhurong has quit IRC | 10:10 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 10:11 | |
| *** jlanoux has quit IRC | 10:26 | |
| *** jlanoux has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:27 | |
| *** asettle has quit IRC | 10:28 | |
| *** atuvenie_ has quit IRC | 10:38 | |
| *** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:40 | |
| *** tangchen_ has quit IRC | 10:42 | |
| *** tangchen has quit IRC | 10:42 | |
| *** asettle has quit IRC | 10:43 | |
| *** jlanoux has quit IRC | 10:43 | |
| *** jlanoux has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:44 | |
| *** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:44 | |
| *** tangchen_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:44 | |
| *** mrmartin has quit IRC | 10:44 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:45 | |
| *** tangchen has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:45 | |
| *** neiljerram has quit IRC | 10:51 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 10:51 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:52 | |
| *** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:54 | |
| *** tovchinnikova has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:54 | |
| *** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 10:58 | |
| *** mbound has quit IRC | 10:58 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:07 | |
| *** atuvenie_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:08 | |
| *** neiljerram has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:09 | |
| *** alexismonville has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:09 | |
| *** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck | 11:10 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 11:11 | |
| *** ihrachys has quit IRC | 11:13 | |
| *** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck | 11:20 | |
| *** stendulker has quit IRC | 11:24 | |
| *** zhenguo has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:25 | |
| *** VW has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:27 | |
| *** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:27 | |
| *** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:29 | |
| *** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:30 | |
| *** VW has quit IRC | 11:31 | |
| *** alexismonville has quit IRC | 11:31 | |
| *** sdake has quit IRC | 11:31 | |
| *** tangchen has quit IRC | 11:32 | |
| *** claudiub has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:32 | |
| *** rtheis has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:34 | |
| *** alexismonville has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:36 | |
| *** matrohon has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:39 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:39 | |
| *** ihrachys has quit IRC | 11:41 | |
| *** bklei has quit IRC | 11:41 | |
| *** markvoelker_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:44 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 11:44 | |
| *** tangchen has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:48 | |
| *** reedip has quit IRC | 11:51 | |
| *** sdake_ is now known as sdake | 11:51 | |
| *** reedip has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:59 | |
| *** rossella_s has quit IRC | 12:00 | |
| *** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:00 | |
| *** uxdanielle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:02 | |
| *** vladik-train has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:04 | |
| *** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:04 | |
| *** zhurong has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:07 | |
| *** neiljerram has quit IRC | 12:08 | |
| *** vladik-train has quit IRC | 12:10 | |
| *** zhurong has quit IRC | 12:11 | |
| *** numans has quit IRC | 12:12 | |
| *** matrohon has quit IRC | 12:12 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 12:15 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:15 | |
| *** iuliat has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:16 | |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:18 | |
| *** baoli_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:18 | |
| *** itoader has quit IRC | 12:19 | |
| *** zhurong has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:19 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 12:21 | |
| *** itoader has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:21 | |
| *** ihrachys has quit IRC | 12:22 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 12:22 | |
| *** uxdanielle has quit IRC | 12:23 | |
| *** iuliat has quit IRC | 12:23 | |
| *** iuliat has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:35 | |
| *** itoader has quit IRC | 12:39 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:41 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:41 | |
| *** numans has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:42 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 12:43 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:44 | |
| *** lblanchard has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:47 | |
| *** ddieterly has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 12:49 | |
| *** ddieterly has quit IRC | 12:51 | |
| *** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck | 12:56 | |
| *** mtanino has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:02 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 13:06 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:06 | |
| *** nicodemos has quit IRC | 13:08 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:09 | |
| *** xavierr has quit IRC | 13:09 | |
| *** iurygregory has quit IRC | 13:09 | |
| *** gabriel-bezerra has quit IRC | 13:09 | |
| *** nicodemos has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:10 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 13:10 | |
| *** xavierr has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:11 | |
| *** gabriel-bezerra has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:11 | |
| *** iurygregory has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:11 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 13:13 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:15 | |
| *** bklei has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:21 | |
| *** markvoelker_ has quit IRC | 13:23 | |
| *** cleong has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:24 | |
| *** julim has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:26 | |
| *** julim has quit IRC | 13:26 | |
| *** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck | 13:31 | |
| *** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck | 13:31 | |
| *** pgadiya has quit IRC | 13:32 | |
| *** julim has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:33 | |
| *** irenab has quit IRC | 13:34 | |
| *** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:35 | |
| *** ddieterly has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:36 | |
| *** itoader has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:38 | |
| *** pt_15 has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:40 | |
| *** iuliat has quit IRC | 13:40 | |
| *** mbound has quit IRC | 13:40 | |
| *** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck | 13:41 | |
| *** mtanino has quit IRC | 13:41 | |
| *** zhurong has quit IRC | 13:43 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:44 | |
| *** uxdanielle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:47 | |
| *** VW has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:49 | |
| *** zhipeng has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:50 | |
| *** zhurong has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:51 | |
| *** kashyap has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:52 | |
| *** davidgiluk has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:53 | |
| *** mriedem has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:53 | |
| *** tenobreg is now known as tellesnobrega | 13:55 | |
| *** stendulker has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:56 | |
| *** rbak has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:56 | |
| *** dasanind has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 13:57 | |
| *** janzian has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:00 | |
| *** atuvenie_ has quit IRC | 14:00 | |
| tdurakov | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
|---|---|---|
| *** janzian has left #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 2 14:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tdurakov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:00 |
| tdurakov | hi everyone | 14:00 |
| davidgiluk | o/ | 14:00 |
| lpetrut | hi | 14:00 |
| *** tovchinnikova has quit IRC | 14:01 | |
| tdurakov | agenda - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration | 14:01 |
| * kashyap waves | 14:01 | |
| mdbooth | o/ | 14:01 |
| tdurakov | let's wait a minute for others, and will start | 14:01 |
| paul-carlton2 | hi | 14:02 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:02 |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:02 | |
| tdurakov | so | 14:02 |
| tdurakov | #topic Libvirt image backend | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Libvirt image backend (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:02 | |
| *** andrearosa has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:03 | |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: any updates on that? | 14:03 |
| * andrearosa is late | 14:03 | |
| mdbooth | tdurakov: I sent a big email the week before last, and was on vacation last week | 14:03 |
| mdbooth | The changes are gradually merging | 14:04 |
| *** baoli_ has quit IRC | 14:04 | |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: anything to help with? | 14:04 |
| mdbooth | There's a specific change I'd like to call out, because it changes live migration quite a bit | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | or just revews? | 14:04 |
| * mdbooth finds the link | 14:04 | |
| mdbooth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342224/ | 14:05 |
| * tdurakov starred change | 14:05 | |
| mdbooth | Note that's in the middle of a very long series | 14:06 |
| *** claudiub has quit IRC | 14:06 | |
| *** zhurong has quit IRC | 14:06 | |
| tdurakov | #action review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342224/ | 14:06 |
| mdbooth | In general there are very few functional changes in the series, but that's a functional change. | 14:06 |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: could you share the very bottom patch to follow? | 14:07 |
| mdbooth | tdurakov: Hah | 14:07 |
| *** zhurong has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:07 | |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: very bottom that still requires review | 14:07 |
| mdbooth | It's currently https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344168/ | 14:07 |
| mdbooth | But that's about 20 patches prior to the above. | 14:07 |
| mdbooth | I need reviews on those, too, but if you only review 1 really closely, please look at the pre live migration one | 14:08 |
| tdurakov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344168/ - current bottom change for series | 14:08 |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: ok, anything to discuss on this? | 14:09 |
| *** itoader has quit IRC | 14:10 | |
| mdbooth | Pre live migration patch is the most relevant thing. | 14:10 |
| mdbooth | Apart from that, all reviews welcome. | 14:10 |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: acked will take a look | 14:10 |
| tdurakov | #action to review Libvirt image backend series | 14:11 |
| *** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck | 14:11 | |
| tdurakov | let's move on then | 14:11 |
| tdurakov | #topic Storage pools | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Storage pools (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:12 | |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2: anything to discuss on this topic? | 14:12 |
| mriedem | did danpb review the storage pools spec yet? | 14:13 |
| paul-carlton2 | Would like to get the specs approved in next few days if possible | 14:13 |
| paul-carlton2 | mriedem, nope | 14:13 |
| *** itoader has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:13 | |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2: this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310505/ right? | 14:14 |
| paul-carlton2 | but doesn't matter if not, will be working on implementation when I get back from holiday and resubmit specs for ocata anyway | 14:14 |
| paul-carlton2 | yep and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310538/ | 14:14 |
| paul-carlton2 | plan is to work on this and get some of the implementation done so it can be completed ain ocata | 14:15 |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2: acked | 14:15 |
| tdurakov | let's go to the next topic then | 14:16 |
| paul-carlton2 | some parts of the implementation depend on the work mdbooth is doing but there is some work that doesn't | 14:16 |
| paul-carlton2 | ta | 14:16 |
| *** banix has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:17 | |
| *** tonytan4ever has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:17 | |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: Are you likely to work on the local root BDM thing? | 14:17 |
| mdbooth | Also, BDMs for config disks | 14:17 |
| paul-carlton2 | mdbooth, nope, Paul Murray changed his mind and said I should focus on the libvirt storage pools stuff when I told him Diane was working on this | 14:19 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: Ok, np. | 14:19 |
| *** itoader has quit IRC | 14:19 | |
| tdurakov | so... | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | #topic CI | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:20 | |
| tdurakov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1524898 - still valid | 14:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524898 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Volume based live migration aborted unexpectedly" [High,Confirmed] | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | I've acked cinder folks to take a look | 14:20 |
| davidgiluk | the previous bet was it was iSCSI config wasn't it? | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | davidgiluk: yes, I think so | 14:21 |
| kashyap | tdurakov: I've checked a few times on -cinder IRC in the past few weeks, just radio silence | 14:21 |
| kashyap | Even with specific pointers to current state of analysis on the bug. | 14:21 |
| *** rockyg has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:21 | |
| kashyap | Seems like this one of those bugs that'd just rot away without any attention due to proper lack of coordination | 14:21 |
| tdurakov | #action tdurakov to start thread on ml for cinder-nova teams | 14:22 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: any ideas? | 14:22 |
| tdurakov | kashyap: yes( | 14:22 |
| * mriedem hasn't been following | 14:22 | |
| kashyap | tdurakov: Raising it on the mailing list is the best bet | 14:22 |
| kashyap | With a proper action item for Cinder folks with iSCSI / Kernel expertise. | 14:22 |
| tdurakov | kashyap: yes | 14:23 |
| mriedem | oh, | 14:23 |
| tdurakov | agree | 14:23 |
| kashyap | mriedem: No worries, you could catch up with the summary on the list | 14:23 |
| mriedem | i don't have anything if hemna or danpb aren't looking at it | 14:23 |
| *** zhipeng has quit IRC | 14:23 | |
| mriedem | my feeling is, | 14:23 |
| kashyap | mriedem: danpb, and davidgiluk narrowed down the issue to Kernel / iSCSI, if you see the bug's analysis | 14:23 |
| mriedem | if that test is keeping us from making the live migration job voting, we should skip it | 14:23 |
| mriedem | would in-qemu iscsi help? | 14:24 |
| davidgiluk | we really should fix the test | 14:24 |
| mriedem | is that available in xenial? | 14:24 |
| mriedem | davidgiluk: fix the test or fix the bug? | 14:24 |
| davidgiluk | mriedem: We should understand the problem before changing it | 14:24 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: in-qemu iscsi doesn't (didn't?) support multipath | 14:24 |
| mriedem | this is multipath? | 14:24 |
| tdurakov | davidgiluk: as I understood mriedem proposes to temporally skip this test, right? | 14:24 |
| mdbooth | Not afaik, but it means it's not a functional replacement yet | 14:24 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: ok, but we don't use multipath in the gate anywhere as far as i know, | 14:25 |
| kashyap | These are the iSCSI errors that Kernel is throwing: | 14:25 |
| kashyap | Jun 30 14:28:09 ubuntu-xenial-2-node-ovh-gra1-2121639 iscsid[525]: Kernel reported iSCSI connection 1:0 error (1020 - ISCSI_ERR_TCP_CONN_CLOSE: TCP connection closed) state (3) | 14:25 |
| mriedem | so i was thinking if in-qemu scsi fixes this for the live migration job, we should use that | 14:25 |
| mriedem | if available | 14:25 |
| *** zhipeng has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:25 | |
| mdbooth | Have we implemented in-qemu iscsi? | 14:25 |
| mriedem | is there any possible hack workaround we can do in the code? | 14:25 |
| davidgiluk | mriedem: I would say we should not do that - we should understand the problem | 14:25 |
| mriedem | davidgiluk: ideally yes, | 14:25 |
| mriedem | davidgiluk: but who's doing that? | 14:25 |
| davidgiluk | mriedem: Do we not have any friendly iscsi people we know? | 14:26 |
| mriedem | i don't want to keep the live migration job non-voting forever just because of this one test that no one is working on | 14:26 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: I think this is what you were looking for - https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/kilo/implemented/qemu-built-in-iscsi-initiator.html | 14:26 |
| mriedem | davidgiluk: hemna, but i'm sure he's preoccupied | 14:26 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: yeah that ^ | 14:26 |
| mriedem | but ubuntu kept the patch out of their qemu package | 14:26 |
| mriedem | at least <xenial, i'm not sure about xenial | 14:26 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: Was it implemented? | 14:27 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: yeah | 14:27 |
| kashyap | Ah, okay. Was trying to confirm that | 14:27 |
| mriedem | but a total "you have to patch qemu yourself to use this" | 14:27 |
| * mdbooth wonders if gets tested | 14:27 | |
| *** ajmiller has quit IRC | 14:27 | |
| mriedem | it does not | 14:27 |
| * mdbooth suspects it's broken :) | 14:27 | |
| *** ajmiller has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:27 | |
| mriedem | the patch has details, but ubuntu didn't carry the in-qemu scsi support | 14:27 |
| mriedem | in their package | 14:27 |
| mdbooth | It's would be a substantially different code path | 14:27 |
| davidgiluk | mriedem: We don't even know if in-qemu iscsi would fix the problem | 14:27 |
| mriedem | davidgiluk: i realize, | 14:27 |
| *** asettle has quit IRC | 14:28 | |
| mriedem | but it's a thread to pull on | 14:28 |
| mriedem | right? | 14:28 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: + | 14:28 |
| *** stendulker has quit IRC | 14:28 | |
| mdbooth | mriedem: I agree that it would be interesting diagnostically to know if in-qemu iscsi made it go away. | 14:28 |
| mriedem | well, i thought danpb's long-term vision would all things would be qemu native | 14:29 |
| tdurakov | any volunteers on that? | 14:29 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Right, it would be awesome. I understood the blocker was just multipath. I didn't even know it was implemented. | 14:29 |
| mriedem | the qemu blocker | 14:30 |
| mriedem | not the gate job blocker | 14:30 |
| mriedem | i'm starting to speak your language :) | 14:30 |
| mriedem | anyway, maybe we take a note that we should investigate in-qemu in the live migration job | 14:30 |
| mriedem | (9:29:50 AM) danpb: then again, it might give us a nicer error message in qemu that acutally shows us the real problem | 14:30 |
| mriedem | (9:30:33 AM) danpb: as the error reporting from the kernel iscsi client is awful (and that's being polite) | 14:30 |
| tdurakov | so... my proposal for this, temporally exclude this test from l-m job, and start investigation on that | 14:31 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: i'm fine with that | 14:31 |
| mriedem | we'd still have it in the multinode job | 14:31 |
| tdurakov | right | 14:31 |
| *** zhipeng has quit IRC | 14:31 | |
| mriedem | i would like to get more stable runs on the l-m job though | 14:31 |
| mriedem | so we can start digging out | 14:31 |
| tdurakov | btw, has anyone reproduced this locally? | 14:32 |
| *** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:32 | |
| *** zhipeng_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:32 | |
| tdurakov | that's kind of the problem^ | 14:33 |
| tdurakov | #action: tdurakov to skip test in live-migration job | 14:33 |
| tdurakov | #action find volunteer for underlying bug issue, will made a call in ml | 14:34 |
| tdurakov | let's move on | 14:34 |
| mdbooth | tdurakov: If anybody has a paying customer hitting this, getting cycles for a reproducer should be simple | 14:34 |
| tdurakov | just fyi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329466/ - updated patch, so if it's ok we could enable nfs again soon | 14:34 |
| mriedem | http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/qemu-block-extra has the package we need | 14:34 |
| tdurakov | #topic Migration object | 14:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Migration object (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:36 | |
| tdurakov | I want to discuss usage of migration object in nova | 14:36 |
| tdurakov | it turn's out for resize/evacuate it's being created implicitly during claim | 14:36 |
| tdurakov | so, it's kind of related for live-migration thing | 14:36 |
| tdurakov | that I'd like to change | 14:37 |
| tdurakov | I'd prefer to create it explicitly in conductor instead | 14:37 |
| tdurakov | thought?^ | 14:37 |
| mdbooth | Without looking at the code, explicit always wins for me. | 14:38 |
| tdurakov | ok, will send mail with details on that | 14:39 |
| tdurakov | #topic Plan for Ocata | 14:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Plan for Ocata (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:39 | |
| tdurakov | as I already understood it will be Storage pools | 14:40 |
| tdurakov | anything else that requires bp/spec? | 14:40 |
| tdurakov | from my sight it will be fsm for migrations, working on that now | 14:40 |
| tdurakov | anything else? | 14:40 |
| mdbooth | I would really like to take a hard look at how we negotiate shared storage | 14:41 |
| mdbooth | Right now, working out what's shared and what's not between 2 hosts is a mess | 14:41 |
| *** Marcellin_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:41 | |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: big + on that | 14:41 |
| tdurakov | I'd also expect this one post-copy interrupts networking | 14:42 |
| mdbooth | I had an idea to be explicit about it somehow. i.e. Have the target communicate what it already has to the source. | 14:42 |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: could work | 14:43 |
| *** raj_singh_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:43 | |
| davidgiluk | tdurakov: I think Luis said he was away this week for that post-copy/networking one - I'm assuming he's back next week but not sure | 14:44 |
| tdurakov | the way how migrate_data object contains 'dozen' of flags for shared/not shared make this thing tricky every time | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | tdurakov: Right, they're unfathomable, and they still don't cover the edge cases | 14:45 |
| *** mtanino has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:45 | |
| tdurakov | davidgiluk: ok | 14:45 |
| *** hichihara has quit IRC | 14:45 | |
| mdbooth | like 2 hosts which use separate ceph setups | 14:45 |
| mdbooth | currently marked as shared | 14:45 |
| tdurakov | yes, looks like a big work item for ocata | 14:46 |
| tdurakov | we have ~10 minutes, so let's go next | 14:46 |
| * mdbooth can't guarantee the cycles to work on it, but if anybody's interested... | 14:46 | |
| tdurakov | #topic Networking | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Networking (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:46 | |
| *** zhipeng_ has quit IRC | 14:46 | |
| tdurakov | any updates on this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275073? | 14:46 |
| *** ajmiller has quit IRC | 14:47 | |
| *** ddieterly is now known as ddieterly[away] | 14:47 | |
| *** ajmiller has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:47 | |
| tdurakov | #action to figure out status for setup_networks_on_host for Neutron | 14:48 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: hi, any updates on this item: Future port info spec to be worked on for Ocata | 14:49 |
| *** neiljerram has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:50 | |
| tdurakov | the same action then | 14:50 |
| *** raj_singh_ has quit IRC | 14:50 | |
| *** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:50 | |
| tdurakov | so next topic | 14:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, so yes, same action | 14:51 |
| *** neiljerram has quit IRC | 14:51 | |
| *** raj_singh has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:51 | |
| johnthetubaguy | been looking into that, but not yet at the bottom of things, mostly due to holiday end of last week and yesterday | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is a patch in review we want to get merged, which should help | 14:51 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: acked, thanks for update | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am booked to go to the neutron midycle to help talk about the plan for next cycle | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | so let me know if there are things folks want raised there | 14:52 |
| tdurakov | #action, reach johnthetubaguy with things for nova-neutron to be discussed during Neutron mid-cycle | 14:53 |
| *** ddieterly[away] is now known as ddieterly | 14:53 | |
| tdurakov | #topic Open discussion | 14:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:53 | |
| *** asettle has quit IRC | 14:53 | |
| *** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:54 | |
| mdbooth | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1597644 | 14:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597644 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Quobyte: Permission denied on console.log during instance startup" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Silvan Kaiser (2-silvan) | 14:54 |
| mdbooth | This bug came out of my series the other day | 14:54 |
| mdbooth | However, the thing I'd like to discuss here is | 14:54 |
| *** ddieterly has quit IRC | 14:55 | |
| *** neiljerram has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:55 | |
| mdbooth | The bug describes that Quobyte CI deliberately configures cinder and nova to be able to write to each others' instance files | 14:55 |
| mdbooth | Can anybody think of a reason that they would do that, or how it might not be broken? | 14:55 |
| *** qwebirc32357 has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:55 | |
| * tdurakov haven't seen Quobyte and it's CI yet | 14:56 | |
| *** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 14:56 | |
| * mdbooth hadn't heard of it until his patch got reverted ;) | 14:56 | |
| mdbooth | However, that was easily worked around | 14:56 |
| mdbooth | Shared access to storage between cinder and nova just sounds scary | 14:57 |
| pkoniszewski | i have one more thing | 14:58 |
| pkoniszewski | i just sent an e-mail to os-dev list about removing live_migration_flag and what to do with live_migration_tunnelled | 14:58 |
| pkoniszewski | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100657.html | 14:58 |
| pkoniszewski | if you can take a look on it, this VIR_MIGRATE_TUNNELLED flag is a pain for a really long time right now and maybe this is a good time to get rid of it | 14:59 |
| pkoniszewski | that's all :) | 14:59 |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: agree on that, need walk through code | 14:59 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: flags... right | 15:00 |
| *** ddieterly has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:00 | |
| * amrith coughs discreetly in the back of the room | 15:00 | |
| gothicmindfood | ohhai | 15:00 |
| *** shamail has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:00 | |
| *** andrearosa has left #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:00 | |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: I'd exepect we remove it | 15:00 |
| tdurakov | anyway | 15:00 |
| gothicmindfood | amrith: are we crashing the nova meeting rn? | 15:00 |
| tdurakov | it looks like we need to end | 15:00 |
| tdurakov | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 2 15:00:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-08-02-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-08-02-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-08-02-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
| amrith | #startmeeting openstack-swg | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 2 15:01:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-swg)" | 15:01 | |
| amrith | #chair dhellmann | 15:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_swg' | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amrith dhellmann | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | #chair gothicmindfood | 15:01 |
| *** iyamahat has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:01 | |
| amrith | #chair gothicmindfood | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amrith dhellmann gothicmindfood | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amrith dhellmann gothicmindfood | 15:01 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:01 |
| *** kebray has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:01 | |
| amrith | #chair ttx | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amrith dhellmann gothicmindfood ttx | 15:01 |
| shamail | hi everyone | 15:01 |
| gothicmindfood | o/ | 15:01 |
| amrith | #chair everyone | 15:01 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: everyone | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amrith dhellmann everyone gothicmindfood ttx | 15:01 |
| *** raj_singh has left #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:01 | |
| amrith | :) | 15:01 |
| shamail | lol amrith | 15:01 |
| gothicmindfood | :) | 15:01 |
| amrith | g'morning all | 15:01 |
| amrith | dhellmann, said he'd be 30m late | 15:01 |
| * gothicmindfood has to board a last minute flight today at 1530 | 15:01 | |
| amrith | I have to leave shortly | 15:02 |
| gothicmindfood | look at us busy folks | 15:02 |
| ttx | fun | 15:02 |
| amrith | let's get started and I'll hand off to someone | 15:02 |
| ttx | if anyone is left | 15:02 |
| amrith | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SWGMeeting | 15:02 |
| gothicmindfood | amrith: can I request we bump up my agenda item so I can do it before I board? | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | yes, let's start with gothicmindfood | 15:02 |
| amrith | gothicmindfood, you are up ... | 15:02 |
| amrith | #topic [gothicmindfood] Update on the potential for the next training session at ZingTrain | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "[gothicmindfood] Update on the potential for the next training session at ZingTrain (Meeting topic: openstack-swg)" | 15:02 | |
| gothicmindfood | sweet | 15:02 |
| ttx | dhelmwas just 2 min left after all | 15:02 |
| *** anilvenkata has quit IRC | 15:03 | |
| gothicmindfood | so - some not-great news - the foundation has declined to fund the next round of leadership training at zingtrain until their next fiscal year | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | my overlapping meeting was rescheduled at the last minute, so I'm here | 15:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | when is the next fiscal year? | 15:03 |
| gothicmindfood | so unless we can find some alternative funding, I believe we won't be able to do another training until next year | 15:03 |
| ttx | I think it's aligned on the regular year | 15:03 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: it's the regular year, right? | 15:03 |
| gothicmindfood | yup | 15:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats refreshingly simple | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | ok. we're always going to have folks who haven't gone through the training, so I think we're going to have to figure out how to make this work anyway | 15:04 |
| gothicmindfood | we *could* attempt to find alternate sources of funding | 15:04 |
| shamail | Do we know what the cost is per attendee? (this would allow us to ask around) | 15:04 |
| gothicmindfood | for 10 people it's $12,500, and it's $500 per person after that | 15:04 |
| shamail | Thanks gothicmindfood | 15:04 |
| ttx | could we popose one where the cost is fully supported by attendees ? A bit unfair I realize... | 15:04 |
| *** claudiub has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:05 | |
| *** davidgiluk has left #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:05 | |
| ttx | but some companies have training budget where they wouldn't have sponsoring budget or travel budget | 15:05 |
| * jroll shows up late | 15:05 | |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: it might make sense - it also helps when we have folks directly advocating with their companies for it | 15:05 |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:06 | |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: I'm more concerned that the timeline there is so tight too, though, that we might want to plan on this happening later no matter what | 15:06 |
| ttx | but then maybe it's just simpler to target early 2017 and start negociating for 2 in 2017 | 15:06 |
| * gothicmindfood has to let zingtrain know soon if we want to keep those sept 14-16 dates | 15:06 | |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: exactly. I was also wondering if I could get pledges from foundation member companies for $$ dedicated to training | 15:06 |
| gothicmindfood | kind of like a match for what the foundation is giving | 15:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, if we did this every year, that seems a good way to keep caching new interested folks, and having a little of overlap if wanted, etc | 15:07 |
| amrith | gothicmindfood, I think it is going to be unlikely unless you can get something done in the next week or so, right? | 15:07 |
| *** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:07 | |
| dhellmann | not to devalue the experience, but as I said, we're going to have to figure out how to deal with communicating about the training with folks who haven't been through it at some point, so maybe we need to bump up the priority on that | 15:07 |
| gothicmindfood | amrith: yeah, unless there are enough people who want to go who wan to go to bat for their companies footing their own cost in the immediate, I'm not sure we're going to make it for September. | 15:07 |
| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: that's very true. I also think a lot of this is about meeting folks in person to talk through the themes here | 15:08 |
| amrith | to dhellmann's point, we're going to customize the things we learned a fair amount. So we should be in a position before long to look towards having our own spin on this whole thing, where the training is something we do internally, our own passport, etc., | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | gothicmindfood: sure. and we have other in-person meetings where we can "self train" or whatever you want to call it | 15:08 |
| amrith | before long ~ famous last words | 15:08 |
| gothicmindfood | :) | 15:08 |
| *** mriedem has left #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:09 | |
| gothicmindfood | ok, so it sounds like there's an understanding here that we won't be able to do more training til next fiscal year. I can work on some money-making schemes for the budget until then, and will ask for help here if/when I need it | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:09 |
| gothicmindfood | but we'll postpone, and I'll start to hunt for jan/feb/march dates that are open for the zingtrain folks | 15:09 |
| amrith | thx gothicmindfood | 15:09 |
| gothicmindfood | cool. Thanks for understanding everyone, and I'm sorry we couldn't make it happen before Barcelona! | 15:10 |
| *** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:10 | |
| dhellmann | and in the mean time we can continue to work on how to share what we learned | 15:10 |
| shamail | Thanks gothicmindfood! I look forward to it next year. | 15:10 |
| gothicmindfood | I should say - ZingTrain offers seats in public courses that cover a lot of the themes in our trainings, so if you're interested in those, you can buy into them | 15:10 |
| gothicmindfood | pm me privately and I can send you links/do intros | 15:10 |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 15:10 | |
| johnthetubaguy | dhellmann: I think quickly describing why we want to do each thing, is good practice anyways, so it might not be too bad | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | johnthetubaguy : right | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | I mean, the vast majority of the community affected by any change will not have been through the course | 15:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, +1 | 15:11 |
| amrith | are we good to move on? | 15:11 |
| gothicmindfood | any other questions about this before we change topics? we have a lot to cover today | 15:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | agreed more folks who are advocates for change, the better, but I think this works | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | let's keep going | 15:12 |
| gothicmindfood | #topic What is our meeting schedule, again? | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "What is our meeting schedule, again? (Meeting topic: openstack-swg)" | 15:12 | |
| amrith | gothicmindfood, I'll check the log later and see if there's anything else that people want | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | someone please tell me the ics file is correct now. :-) | 15:12 |
| gothicmindfood | :) | 15:12 |
| amrith | So, dhellmann I'd like to announce that the ICS file is now good | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | \o/ | 15:12 |
| amrith | ttx has the action item to find us a second meeting date | 15:12 |
| gothicmindfood | I'm cool with holding the belief with you all that this is an odd week | 15:12 |
| amrith | the etherpad has all the details about what went wrong (I'm a big fan of post-mortems) | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | gothicmindfood : this is openstack. all weeks are "odd" | 15:13 |
| amrith | after all, if we don't learn, we make the same mistakes again and again. | 15:13 |
| * johnthetubaguy giggles | 15:13 | |
| gothicmindfood | but yeah - ttx can you not make this time? should we try to move this to Fridays? | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/iRMqOBSHQj | 15:13 |
| * gothicmindfood throws grenades on our happy meeting time | 15:13 | |
| amrith | friday's don't work for a lot of people (sabbath) | 15:13 |
| *** kashyap has left #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:13 | |
| gothicmindfood | ah, yeah, I remember that now | 15:13 |
| amrith | fine with me, flavio already made that point | 15:13 |
| gothicmindfood | also, it's saturdays for aussies | 15:13 |
| ttx | I have another meeting concurrently to this one | 15:13 |
| ttx | (staff call) | 15:13 |
| ttx | which is difficult to move around | 15:14 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: ah okay. | 15:14 |
| ttx | so I multiplkex right now | 15:14 |
| amrith | ah, anyway. dhellmann I'd like to switch to #2 so I can go catch a plane | 15:14 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:14 |
| amrith | #topic Should we recommend to the TC that they adopt the consensus model | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Should we recommend to the TC that they adopt the consensus model (Meeting topic: openstack-swg)" | 15:14 | |
| ttx | gothicmindfood: so, doable but clearly suboptimal | 15:14 |
| amrith | I posted an etherpad | 15:14 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 15:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | did we agree a time for even weeks? | 15:14 |
| amrith | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/JQeiUOtnlV | 15:14 |
| ttx | in most cases the call ends early though | 15:14 |
| * flaper87 sorry he is late | 15:14 | |
| amrith | johnthetubaguy, there was a doodle in #0's etherpad | 15:14 |
| gothicmindfood | johnthetubaguy: our meeting sounds like it's in flux | 15:14 |
| amrith | anyway, back to #2 | 15:15 |
| amrith | I'd like to see if we can get enough progress to propose a consensus model to the TC | 15:15 |
| *** claudiub has quit IRC | 15:15 | |
| amrith | for its consideration | 15:15 |
| amrith | someone posted great comments in that etherpad (can't identify, no name). | 15:15 |
| amrith | whoever it was, thanks | 15:15 |
| ttx | we have a number of things on the oven already, maybe not optimal timing | 15:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats me | 15:15 |
| amrith | thx johnthetubaguy | 15:16 |
| amrith | so, if others could review and post comments/updates | 15:16 |
| amrith | I'll review later and propose a review for TC | 15:16 |
| amrith | at the appropriate time | 15:16 |
| shamail | The current model is lazy consensus right? Is the delta identified in the proposal? | 15:16 |
| ttx | oh nice, I'll review that etherpad | 15:16 |
| ttx | shamail: no | 15:16 |
| amrith | I'm going to be meeting mordred tomorrow so I will make sure to make him aware of this | 15:16 |
| gothicmindfood | johnthetubaguy: those are great comments | 15:16 |
| ttx | shamail: current default model is majority vote | 15:16 |
| ttx | we use lazuy consensus for things that are not deemed as requiring a formal vote, following house rules | 15:17 |
| amrith | with that, if there are no questions for me; I'd like to mosey on to the airport. I did my action items. | 15:17 |
| shamail | thanks ttx, I was under the incorrect impression that not voting implied consensus | 15:17 |
| amrith | I see that dhellmann did his (extra-atc's) | 15:17 |
| gothicmindfood | thanks amrith! safe flight! | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | yes, I think we're covered on all of the actions from last week | 15:17 |
| amrith | we need to get a meeting time for the next week (odd, even, whatever ...) | 15:17 |
| ttx | http://governance.openstack.org/reference/house-rules.html | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | thanks, amrith | 15:17 |
| flaper87 | amrith: safe flights | 15:17 |
| amrith | thanks all ... I'll read scrollback later | 15:18 |
| amrith | #unchair everyone | 15:18 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amrith dhellmann gothicmindfood ttx | 15:18 |
| amrith | #unchair amrith | 15:18 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amrith dhellmann gothicmindfood ttx | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | ok, do we want to talk more about the proposal here or do folks want time to read it before we discuss it? | 15:18 |
| gothicmindfood | I thought we were cool having meetings every other week? | 15:18 |
| * amrith exits stage right | 15:18 | |
| dhellmann | yeah, that's what I thought, too | 15:18 |
| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: I'm planning on reading that later and commenting on etherpad | 15:18 |
| ttx | every other week is fine by me at this stage | 15:19 |
| ttx | aligned wit hthe time investment I can make | 15:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | works as a starting point | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | ok, so let's move on to the next topic then | 15:19 |
| ttx | dhellmann: yes, I need to read and comment on that etherpad | 15:19 |
| flaper87 | every other week works for me too | 15:19 |
| * flaper87 hasn't read the etherpad either | 15:19 | |
| gothicmindfood | #topic Continue review items short list from last meeting | 15:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | my main comments for the etherpad were about making the more async rather than purely meeting based process | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Continue review items short list from last meeting (Meeting topic: openstack-swg)" | 15:19 | |
| dhellmann | I'm going to reorder again because I think 4 will be quicker | 15:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | otherwise, I largely like the idea | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | #topic Discuss any documents that are available for review | 15:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss any documents that are available for review (Meeting topic: openstack-swg)" | 15:20 | |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/349068 describe a process for managing community-wide goals [dhellmann, et al] | 15:20 |
| gothicmindfood | There are 4 reviews(?) I think | 15:20 |
| *** abalutoiu has quit IRC | 15:20 | |
| gothicmindfood | oh, we're gonna do docs | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | there has been a lot of discussion of that one on the ML. I'd like some folks from this group to chime in. | 15:20 |
| *** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:20 | |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/349069 add ocata goal "support python 3.5" [dhellmann] | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/349070 add ocata goal "switch to oslo libraries" [dhellmann] | 15:20 |
| ttx | So I was a bit surprised by the initial reaction, a lot of people read "top-down design" when dhellmann meant "release themes taht would be awesome to reach cross-project" | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | those two are specific goal proposals based on the list we came up with during our discussion in Ann Arbor | 15:21 |
| *** belmoreira has quit IRC | 15:21 | |
| ttx | s/themes/goals/ | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | yes. I would appreciate help clarifying that. | 15:21 |
| ttx | "small release goals that would be awesome to collectively complete" | 15:21 |
| * flaper87 is catching up with that thread too (was off yday and friday) | 15:21 | |
| jroll | so I think part of the reaction is because we haven't defined what happens to a project that doesn't get these things done | 15:22 |
| * gothicmindfood only briefly saw that thread and didn't realize it was going that way | 15:22 | |
| *** ihrachys has quit IRC | 15:22 | |
| jroll | and people could be concerned the answer is "kick them out" | 15:22 |
| ttx | I'll reply to the thread | 15:22 |
| jroll | which is scary, understandably | 15:22 |
| gothicmindfood | jroll: good point. | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | jroll : sure. I thought our conclusion to that was basically that choosing not to work on community goals was choosing to not be part of the community. | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | I had been planning to wait for mordred's list of principles before posting the goals stuff, but I started worrying about us having enough time to agree on the actual goals, much less the process. | 15:23 |
| jroll | dhellmann: sure, but it isn't direct in that resolution, so maybe fear of the unknown? | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | maybe if I'd waited that part would be more clear | 15:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | thing is, that feels like top down enforcement, rather than building consensus as a community around the goals, which I think is the intent here (apart from my miss-use of the word consensus) | 15:24 |
| shamail | dhellmann: that was how I intrepreted as well… but uncertain on whether the goals would be strict or could someone justify why they couldn’t make it happen. Resources fluctuate, etc. | 15:24 |
| jroll | dhellmann: or, projects are concerned they legitimately won't get it done and will get kicked out because they're not good at being organized or whatever, not because they were opposed to the goal | 15:24 |
| *** Sukhdev has quit IRC | 15:25 | |
| johnthetubaguy | so not to confuse, but that discussion about new projects could play into this here | 15:25 |
| *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:25 | |
| johnthetubaguy | everyone gets a bit of time to get their house in order, if it takes too long, you get kicked out? | 15:25 |
| *** zhipeng has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:26 | |
| *** armax has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:26 | |
| dhellmann | this isn't about kicking people out though. it's about building a culture of establishing common goals and working toward them. | 15:26 |
| ttx | I agree that it would have been better to not have those two discussions in parallel, which is why I kicked that can down the road, but Doug was feeling optimistic and picked up the can :) | 15:26 |
| gothicmindfood | johnthetubaguy: one of the tensions we identified in training was the idea that the expectations of what it means to be an openstack project haven't really ever been made explicitly clear | 15:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | gothicmindfood: yeah, agreed with that | 15:27 |
| *** marst has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:28 | |
| gothicmindfood | and I think pretty much everyone understands that as those discussions are had they'll be difficult, and people will get pissed. | 15:28 |
| shamail | Agreed dhellmann, would it be an option to emphasize that this is a pilot with goals that are already in-flight and to start change in the culture… We could also highlight that in the future, we will have ways to discuss goals as well before publishing? | 15:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we can separate them, but maybe we just need to be clearer about they why we are doing this stuff? and get people bought into that vision | 15:28 |
| * jroll is sad the goals already proposed haven't helped steer the discussion away from "but what if the TC forces me to do X that I disagree with?!" | 15:28 | |
| gothicmindfood | johnthetubaguy: right, I think right now we're starting with 'here are the goals/work' and we don't have the vision yet | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | shamail : I really thought I covered all of that in the proposal, but if it's not clear I'll take suggestions for expanding on it. | 15:29 |
| shamail | The objective is to set some goals to establish the pattern of being goal-oriented… the process can be refined and noone is being penalized for now | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | jroll : right, that's why I put all 3 patches up together | 15:29 |
| gothicmindfood | and that might make it hard to be more inspiring, and it sounds more... dictatorial | 15:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think everyone wants to pull together better as a cohesive platform, and this is a great idea to help get there | 15:29 |
| ttx | posted a comment on that thread | 15:29 |
| shamail | dhellmann: I understood it based on reading your responses in the review and ML.. I am not sure if everyone has gone through it yet so an updated summary might be beneficial to some | 15:29 |
| *** zhurong has quit IRC | 15:30 | |
| *** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:30 | |
| dhellmann | shamail : there are no penalties. Projects that are part of the community will prioritize community goals. Projects that choose not to do that are expressing that they do not want to be part of the community. That's a choice, not something being forced on them. | 15:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, re-reading the why is there, its somehow not jumping out at me though, curious | 15:30 |
| shamail | +1, incorrect phrasing on my part. | 15:30 |
| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: ++ | 15:31 |
| jroll | dhellmann: right, so I think we need to be explicit about the 'no penalties' thing, people are worried TC wants to remove projects | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | jroll: ok. Is my phrasing from above good? I can add that to a new draft where I fix some of the typos, too. | 15:31 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I still think it's too negative. See my phrasing on the ML thread answer | 15:32 |
| jroll | dhellmann: I think you'll get some "what does not being part of the community mean?", which will start another conversation about what level of non-cooperation is required to start considering moving a project out of the tent | 15:33 |
| ttx | Not participating in common goals is not something that automatically gets you out, it's a sign you're not playing by the community rules, which adds up to other signs imho | 15:33 |
| gothicmindfood | isn't that a conversation that has to happen, though? | 15:33 |
| ttx | so I'm not even sure we need to mention project removal or anything | 15:33 |
| flaper87 | ttx: I agree that we shouldn't mention it | 15:34 |
| dhellmann | ttx: ack, I'll incorporate that | 15:34 |
| * flaper87 kinda caught up | 15:34 | |
| jroll | gothicmindfood: totally - do we want to block this goals thing on it? | 15:34 |
| jroll | ttx: completely agree with that | 15:34 |
| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: is it fair to say that this is about driving cross project cooperation and openstack cohesiveness, and that it's not the mandate of goal-setting to decide which projects stay and go in the community - that's the job of the TC on a larger level? | 15:34 |
| dhellmann | gothicmindfood: that's also a good way to put it | 15:35 |
| ttx | There are a lot of things in the naughty/nice list | 15:36 |
| gothicmindfood | that participating in cross-project goals is an indicator of commitment to the community, but isn't meant as some kind of trojan horse to oust projects simply based on meeting or participating? | 15:36 |
| ttx | and there is already a mechanism to expell projects that have too much in the naughty column | 15:36 |
| ttx | I don't think we need anything specific there | 15:36 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx is openstack santa, clearly | 15:36 |
| gothicmindfood | :) | 15:36 |
| *** kebray has quit IRC | 15:36 | |
| ttx | just call them community-wide goals and let them infer the price for being gratuitously resisting | 15:37 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: I think, if people are bringing it up in those reviews, that clarifying might help | 15:37 |
| gothicmindfood | because it seems like they already think that | 15:37 |
| dhellmann | gothicmindfood : do you want to post your comments to the ML or review? | 15:37 |
| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: I will do both :) | 15:37 |
| dhellmann | good, thanks | 15:38 |
| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: are you planning on covering the review in today's TC meeting? | 15:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | maybe removing the comment in here for now, helps remove this debate? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349068/1/reference/new-projects-requirements.rst | 15:38 |
| jroll | ttx: I'm just concerned letting people hypothesize is what leads us to the current situation with people panicking | 15:38 |
| ttx | well, we can mention that "while being a sign that you don't align with the rest of openstack on common goals, refusal to prioritize common goals will not in itself trigger removal of the tent" | 15:38 |
| jroll | or letting people infer, rather | 15:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: I have a similar worry | 15:38 |
| dhellmann | it's not on the agenda, but ttx mentioned that we might cover it in open discussion as a preview | 15:38 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: I think that's a good way to put it | 15:38 |
| ttx | if we have free time | 15:38 |
| dhellmann | right, "might" | 15:38 |
| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: okay, I may not have time to comment til later this evening, then, just wanted to know if it was expected by today's meeting | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | gothicmindfood : understood, no rush | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | folks, please also look at the specific goals and the template and give some feedback on whether those have the right level of detail | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | we'll adjust them over time, but if there's anything obviously missing it would be good to add it now | 15:39 |
| *** kebray has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:39 | |
| dhellmann | is there anything else to say on this topic, or should we move on to our short-list reorg? | 15:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | did we discuss having a tag to track completion of some of these goals? | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | the goal documents themselves have the completion tracking info built in | 15:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | true, I guess that could be per goal | 15:40 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: that's a pretty bad idea. Tags have to be useful downstream, not a tool for tracking community alignment | 15:41 |
| ttx | They are meant to help people using openstack | 15:41 |
| *** paul-carlton2 has quit IRC | 15:41 | |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: true, I was thinking about py3.x support too much | 15:41 |
| ttx | Not sure if users care that we remove oslo copypasta, it's just payinng down tech debt | 15:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, agreed with that one | 15:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | its also a your done if its not present thing, which is an odd one | 15:42 |
| * gothicmindfood has to get going soon, to board the plane | 15:43 | |
| gothicmindfood | do we want to move onto our fun list? | 15:43 |
| dhellmann | ok, let's switch while we have time to make some progress on the organizational work | 15:43 |
| dhellmann | #topic Continue review items short list from last meeting | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Continue review items short list from last meeting (Meeting topic: openstack-swg)" | 15:43 | |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swg-short-list-deliverables | 15:43 |
| *** jlanoux has quit IRC | 15:43 | |
| dhellmann | after the meeting last week I did a little more reorg to split out some things from the massive outline format | 15:43 |
| shamail | could there just be a generic ‘implements community goals’ tag? This would show consumers that a project is a good community citizen (which also reflects its health similar to diverse-affiliation) | 15:43 |
| *** itoader has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:43 | |
| dhellmann | we left off on what is now line 89 | 15:44 |
| dhellmann | shamail : we would need some objective measurement for that | 15:44 |
| dhellmann | I think the item about consensus can move up under "open questions". agreed? | 15:44 |
| *** dasanind has quit IRC | 15:45 | |
| ttx | yes | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | I think line 96 is a duplicate of mordred's principles document, isn't it? | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | if not a 1:1 dupe, at least part of it | 15:46 |
| jroll | ++ | 15:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | does anyone have the link to that doc handy, I lost it | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | I can't find the relevant section in this doc either | 15:46 |
| jroll | it wasn't ready for public when it was posted here | 15:47 |
| *** iuliat has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:47 | |
| dhellmann | oh, nm, I see it | 15:47 |
| *** bpokorny has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:47 | |
| * jroll digs for it | 15:47 | |
| dhellmann | line 101 is part of the consensus discussion | 15:47 |
| jroll | johnthetubaguy: PM'd | 15:47 |
| dhellmann | line 103 seems like another group discussion topic? | 15:48 |
| jroll | hm | 15:48 |
| jroll | I thought when we discussed it, we said that's ok | 15:49 |
| gothicmindfood | yeah, I thought that was part of the next effort: consensus stuff | 15:49 |
| jroll | if people vote for folks that say "the vision is wrong, I want to be TC so I can fix it", so be it? | 15:49 |
| *** itoader has quit IRC | 15:49 | |
| * gothicmindfood would like to move that "consensus stuff" be the official review title for amrith 's governance patch :) | 15:49 | |
| *** dasanind has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:49 | |
| dhellmann | so that's an answered question? | 15:49 |
| jroll | that's how I understood it, but someone added it here, so idk? | 15:50 |
| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: it feels like a cross between consensus and principles that mordred is working on | 15:50 |
| ttx | jroll: tricky if we want shared vision and consensus decision making | 15:50 |
| jroll | ttx: indeed, it makes it difficult | 15:50 |
| * gothicmindfood added a little passport comment below this one | 15:50 | |
| dhellmann | someone write something on line 107 about how that's resolved :-)( | 15:50 |
| * gothicmindfood has to board her flight now | 15:50 | |
| dhellmann | :-) | 15:50 |
| jroll | ttx: so maybe needs some thought | 15:50 |
| gothicmindfood | (will read backscroll) | 15:50 |
| dhellmann | gothicmindfood : safe travels | 15:50 |
| gothicmindfood | :) | 15:50 |
| flaper87 | gothicmindfood: safe flights | 15:50 |
| jroll | gothicmindfood: enjoy \o | 15:51 |
| ttx | Zingerman's solves it by coopting new members and have them agree on the vision before they even consider joining, so they can apply consensus decision making after that | 15:51 |
| ttx | Wouldn't work if their business line leaders were elected | 15:51 |
| ttx | or worse, if their overall leadership was directly elected | 15:51 |
| *** bklei_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:51 | |
| dhellmann | that's right | 15:51 |
| dhellmann | so move it back to open questions | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | ? | 15:52 |
| *** bklei has quit IRC | 15:52 | |
| *** itoader has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:52 | |
| ttx | so this is why we might not be able to replicate that | 15:52 |
| jroll | I think I captured this discussion there | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | yes, at this point I think it's safe to say it needs more discussion, even if that's just to clarify that we anticipate issues if we have a huge turnover in the tc or something | 15:52 |
| ttx | so I think this needs to remain open question at this stage | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | let's focus on organizing and not answering each question for now | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | lines 118 and 128 look related | 15:53 |
| jroll | +1 | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | and like an open question | 15:53 |
| *** banix has quit IRC | 15:53 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:54 | |
| dhellmann | line 131 is related to the blc proposal above, and I don't think it adds anything so how about we just delete it? | 15:54 |
| *** iuliat has quit IRC | 15:54 | |
| *** claudiub has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:54 | |
| *** shamail has left #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:55 | |
| dhellmann | lin 132 seems like an expanded version of the blc question | 15:55 |
| ttx | yeah | 15:55 |
| dhellmann | did we talk about anything other than blc when this came up? | 15:55 |
| dhellmann | blogging or email or anyting? | 15:55 |
| ttx | I think it was general | 15:56 |
| ttx | like 'too many people ignore how the TC works and what it's supposed to do and what it does' | 15:56 |
| dhellmann | ok, I have no idea what line 135 refers to. Was that about goals? | 15:56 |
| ttx | I think it was for change in general | 15:56 |
| ttx | but happy to remove those lines | 15:57 |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 15:57 | |
| *** iuliat has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:57 | |
| dhellmann | lin 137 looks like it could go under line 79 | 15:57 |
| ttx | yes | 15:57 |
| dhellmann | or vice versa | 15:57 |
| dhellmann | line 141 is done | 15:58 |
| dhellmann | line 146 is the same as goals, right? | 15:59 |
| dhellmann | almost out of time | 15:59 |
| *** yamamoto_ has quit IRC | 15:59 | |
| *** rossella_s has quit IRC | 16:00 | |
| jroll | 147 == 47 | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | the rest of these all seem to be open discussion items | 16:00 |
| *** itoader has quit IRC | 16:00 | |
| dhellmann | ah, yes | 16:00 |
| jroll | yeah, the rest do look like open items | 16:00 |
| *** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:00 | |
| dhellmann | the new 147 is a thing we were going to propose but need to think about more | 16:00 |
| jroll | is 151 the same as 120? | 16:00 |
| *** s3wong has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:00 | |
| dhellmann | uyes, I think so | 16:01 |
| jroll | cool | 16:01 |
| *** qwebirc32357 has quit IRC | 16:01 | |
| jroll | woo, made it with only one extra minute \o/ | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | leading! | 16:01 |
| ttx | thnaks dhellmann | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | ok, let's clear the room | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | thank you everyone! | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 2 16:01:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_swg/2016/openstack_swg.2016-08-02-15.01.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_swg/2016/openstack_swg.2016-08-02-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_swg/2016/openstack_swg.2016-08-02-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
| jroll | thanks dhellmann | 16:01 |
| *** tangchen_ has quit IRC | 16:02 | |
| *** tangchen has quit IRC | 16:03 | |
| *** s3wong has quit IRC | 16:03 | |
| *** Sukhdev has quit IRC | 16:05 | |
| *** ddieterly has quit IRC | 16:08 | |
| *** numans has quit IRC | 16:09 | |
| *** itoader has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:10 | |
| *** iuliat has quit IRC | 16:12 | |
| *** asettle has quit IRC | 16:16 | |
| *** tangchen_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:16 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 16:17 | |
| *** mbound has quit IRC | 16:21 | |
| *** piet has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:22 | |
| *** tangchen has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:23 | |
| *** krotscheck is now known as krot_sickleave | 16:27 | |
| *** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:27 | |
| *** amotoki has quit IRC | 16:28 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:30 | |
| *** rhagarty has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:31 | |
| *** neiljerram has quit IRC | 16:33 | |
| *** neiljerram has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:34 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 16:34 | |
| *** neiljerram has quit IRC | 16:35 | |
| *** bpokorny has quit IRC | 16:42 | |
| *** banix has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:46 | |
| *** bklei_ has quit IRC | 16:50 | |
| *** bpokorny has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:51 | |
| *** bklei has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:52 | |
| *** iyamahat has quit IRC | 16:53 | |
| *** toddjohn_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:53 | |
| *** ajmiller has quit IRC | 16:54 | |
| *** ajmiller has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:54 | |
| *** yamahata has quit IRC | 16:55 | |
| *** lpetrut has quit IRC | 16:55 | |
| *** atuvenie_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:56 | |
| *** iuliat has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:57 | |
| *** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:58 | |
| *** rockyg has quit IRC | 17:00 | |
| *** rbak_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:00 | |
| *** itoader has quit IRC | 17:01 | |
| *** kebray has quit IRC | 17:01 | |
| *** rbak has quit IRC | 17:02 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:02 | |
| *** itoader has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:02 | |
| *** julim has quit IRC | 17:02 | |
| *** iuliat has quit IRC | 17:03 | |
| *** piet has quit IRC | 17:04 | |
| *** julim has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:06 | |
| *** ihrachys has quit IRC | 17:06 | |
| *** iuliat has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:07 | |
| *** claudiub has quit IRC | 17:08 | |
| *** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:09 | |
| *** itoader has quit IRC | 17:11 | |
| *** atuvenie_ has quit IRC | 17:11 | |
| *** itoader has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:12 | |
| *** iyamahat has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:12 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 17:12 | |
| *** iuliat has quit IRC | 17:13 | |
| *** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:16 | |
| *** rbak_ has quit IRC | 17:17 | |
| *** crinkle has quit IRC | 17:17 | |
| *** piet has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:18 | |
| *** rbak has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:19 | |
| *** itoader has quit IRC | 17:24 | |
| *** reedip has quit IRC | 17:26 | |
| *** ihrachys has quit IRC | 17:26 | |
| *** itoader has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:26 | |
| *** iuliat has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:29 | |
| *** claudiub has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:32 | |
| *** itoader has quit IRC | 17:32 | |
| *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:33 | |
| *** ajmiller_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:34 | |
| *** sambetts is now known as sambetts|afk | 17:35 | |
| *** ajmiller_ has quit IRC | 17:35 | |
| *** tangchen has quit IRC | 17:35 | |
| *** ajmiller has quit IRC | 17:37 | |
| *** reedip has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:38 | |
| *** numans has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:38 | |
| *** tangchen has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:39 | |
| *** andymaier has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:39 | |
| *** iuliat has quit IRC | 17:39 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:40 | |
| *** Sukhdev has quit IRC | 17:46 | |
| *** dasanind has quit IRC | 17:49 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:50 | |
| *** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:51 | |
| *** _sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:51 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 17:52 | |
| *** andymaier has quit IRC | 17:52 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 17:55 | |
| *** s3wong has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:55 | |
| *** numans has quit IRC | 17:56 | |
| *** _sarob has quit IRC | 17:57 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:57 | |
| *** VW has quit IRC | 17:59 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 17:59 | |
| *** VW has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:59 | |
| *** MeganR has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:00 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:00 | |
| jroll | #startmeeting ironic-v2-api | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 2 18:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jroll. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic-v2-api)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_v2_api' | 18:00 |
| jroll | who's around? | 18:00 |
| *** crinkle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:00 | |
| *** tangchen has quit IRC | 18:02 | |
| *** rpioso has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:02 | |
| rpioso | o/ | 18:02 |
| *** mbound has quit IRC | 18:02 | |
| jroll | hey rpioso | 18:03 |
| rpioso | hi jroll | 18:04 |
| *** tangchen has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:04 | |
| jroll | looks like it's just you and me so far | 18:04 |
| rpioso | :-) | 18:04 |
| jroll | ok I guess we'll start | 18:05 |
| jroll | #topic announcements and reminders | 18:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements and reminders (Meeting topic: ironic-v2-api)" | 18:05 | |
| rpioso | jroll: Perhaps folks don't know it's being held. Today's date is not on the wiki page -- https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic_v2_API | 18:05 |
| jroll | yeah, I noticed that :( | 18:06 |
| jroll | was too late by then | 18:06 |
| jroll | I'll update it next time | 18:06 |
| rpioso | no worries | 18:06 |
| jroll | so, just one thing I wanted to point out, devananda and I wrote up long-form version of the API issues | 18:06 |
| jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-v2-api | 18:06 |
| jroll | line 114 ish | 18:06 |
| jroll | I'd like some folks to review that | 18:07 |
| * jroll is banking on people reading meeting logs | 18:07 | |
| * devananda perks up | 18:07 | |
| jroll | oh, welcome | 18:07 |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 18:07 | |
| jroll | rpioso: devananda: other than asking people to chime in on the pad, anything y'all want to talk about? | 18:08 |
| rpioso | jroll: No. Thx for asking. | 18:09 |
| devananda | speaking of awareness of this - it wasn't on the openstack meetings calendar last I checked | 18:10 |
| devananda | which is how I get all my insight into when meetings are | 18:10 |
| devananda | jroll: until we get feedback on that 'pads contents, I don't think I have a lot to talk about. nothing specific came to mind last week | 18:10 |
| jroll | it should be... | 18:10 |
| devananda | and I hesitate to go ahead writing things up without any input yet | 18:11 |
| jroll | devananda: agree | 18:11 |
| jroll | this should have put it on the meetings calendar https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339211/ | 18:11 |
| devananda | maybe we add it to monday's main meeting? | 18:11 |
| jroll | maybe you have an old ref to the ics? | 18:11 |
| jroll | sure, I can do that | 18:11 |
| devananda | huh | 18:11 |
| *** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:11 | |
| jroll | or we could email about it | 18:12 |
| devananda | ++ | 18:12 |
| jroll | mind sending that? | 18:12 |
| devananda | nope | 18:12 |
| jroll | awesome, ty | 18:12 |
| *** toddjohn_ has quit IRC | 18:12 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:13 | |
| jroll | so, shall we bail? :) | 18:13 |
| jroll | #action devananda to send an email asking for feedback on the api issues writeup | 18:14 |
| jroll | #endmeeting | 18:14 |
| devananda | I guess so! | 18:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 18:14 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 2 18:14:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_v2_api/2016/ironic_v2_api.2016-08-02-18.00.html | 18:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_v2_api/2016/ironic_v2_api.2016-08-02-18.00.txt | 18:14 |
| devananda | yay short meetings | 18:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_v2_api/2016/ironic_v2_api.2016-08-02-18.00.log.html | 18:14 |
| jroll | indeed! | 18:14 |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:14 | |
| rpioso | I'll take a look at the pad. May not have much to offer since I'm new to the API. Haven't experienced any pain from it, yet :-) | 18:15 |
| *** pt_15 has quit IRC | 18:16 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 18:16 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:18 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:20 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 18:22 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:23 | |
| *** rockyg has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:25 | |
| *** jrist has quit IRC | 18:27 | |
| *** flwang1 has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:28 | |
| *** jrist has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:28 | |
| *** julim has quit IRC | 18:29 | |
| *** tenobreg has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:30 | |
| *** jrist has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** tellesnobrega has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** julim has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:31 | |
| *** pvaneck has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:31 | |
| *** rpioso has left #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:34 | |
| *** devananda has quit IRC | 18:38 | |
| *** lpetrut has quit IRC | 18:41 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 18:42 | |
| *** devananda has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:46 | |
| *** devananda has quit IRC | 18:46 | |
| *** devananda has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:47 | |
| *** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:50 | |
| *** mickeys has quit IRC | 18:51 | |
| *** claudiub has quit IRC | 18:53 | |
| *** devananda has quit IRC | 18:55 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:58 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 18:58 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:58 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:58 | |
| *** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:03 | |
| *** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:03 | |
| *** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:03 | |
| *** julim has quit IRC | 19:04 | |
| *** julim has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:06 | |
| *** fifieldt has quit IRC | 19:07 | |
| *** mbound has quit IRC | 19:08 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 19:09 | |
| *** dasanind has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:11 | |
| *** devananda has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:14 | |
| *** MeganR has quit IRC | 19:16 | |
| *** fifieldt has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:18 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 19:19 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:19 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 19:19 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:20 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 19:20 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:20 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 19:24 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:28 | |
| *** atuvenie_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:33 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:37 | |
| *** vhoward has quit IRC | 19:40 | |
| *** coolsvap has quit IRC | 19:41 | |
| *** Benj_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:48 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 19:48 | |
| *** jbryce has left #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:49 | |
| *** cleong has quit IRC | 19:50 | |
| *** jrist has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:58 | |
| *** docaedo has quit IRC | 19:58 | |
| *** rossella_s has quit IRC | 20:00 | |
| *** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 20:00 | |
| *** dasanind has quit IRC | 20:02 | |
| *** alexismonville has quit IRC | 20:03 | |
| *** julim has quit IRC | 20:04 | |
| *** dasanind has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 20:09 | |
| *** docaedo has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 20:10 | |
| *** docaedo has quit IRC | 20:15 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 20:17 | |
| *** flwang1 has quit IRC | 20:18 | |
| *** lpetrut has quit IRC | 20:21 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 20:25 | |
| *** docaedo has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 20:25 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 20:27 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 20:28 | |
| *** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck | 20:29 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 20:31 | |
| *** pt_15 has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 20:31 | |
| *** docaedo has quit IRC | 20:35 | |
| *** rhagarty has quit IRC | 20:38 | |
| *** tonytan4ever has quit IRC | 20:46 | |
| *** bklei has quit IRC | 20:48 | |
| *** bklei has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 20:48 | |
| *** docaedo has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 20:50 | |
| *** notmyname has quit IRC | 20:55 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 20:57 | |
| *** kbyrne has quit IRC | 20:58 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:00 | |
| *** dasanind has quit IRC | 21:00 | |
| *** alexismonville has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:00 | |
| *** ihrachys has quit IRC | 21:02 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 21:03 | |
| *** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:03 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 21:04 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:05 | |
| *** dasanind has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:05 | |
| *** banix has quit IRC | 21:06 | |
| *** toddjohn has quit IRC | 21:09 | |
| *** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:10 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 21:10 | |
| *** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:11 | |
| *** dasanind has quit IRC | 21:14 | |
| *** bklei_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:15 | |
| *** bklei has quit IRC | 21:18 | |
| *** kbyrne has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:19 | |
| *** bklei_ has quit IRC | 21:24 | |
| *** kebray has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:24 | |
| *** rockyg has quit IRC | 21:25 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 21:25 | |
| *** kebray has quit IRC | 21:25 | |
| *** bklei has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:25 | |
| *** _sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:26 | |
| *** pvaneck has quit IRC | 21:26 | |
| *** pvaneck has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:27 | |
| *** Marcellin_ has quit IRC | 21:27 | |
| *** sdague has quit IRC | 21:30 | |
| *** lblanchard has quit IRC | 21:31 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 21:31 | |
| *** flwang1 has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:34 | |
| *** bklei has quit IRC | 21:35 | |
| *** bklei has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:36 | |
| *** rockyg has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:43 | |
| *** tonytan4ever has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:47 | |
| *** alexismonville has quit IRC | 21:47 | |
| *** alexismonville has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 21:51 | |
| *** tonytan4ever has quit IRC | 21:52 | |
| *** VW has quit IRC | 21:53 | |
| *** rockyg has quit IRC | 21:53 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 21:54 | |
| *** alexismonville has quit IRC | 21:58 | |
| *** VW has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:05 | |
| *** rbak has quit IRC | 22:05 | |
| *** bklei has quit IRC | 22:06 | |
| *** rbak has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:09 | |
| *** VW has quit IRC | 22:09 | |
| *** VW has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:10 | |
| *** asettle has quit IRC | 22:10 | |
| *** VW_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:13 | |
| *** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck | 22:16 | |
| *** VW has quit IRC | 22:17 | |
| *** VW_ has quit IRC | 22:17 | |
| *** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:22 | |
| *** _sarob has quit IRC | 22:24 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:24 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 22:28 | |
| *** lpetrut has quit IRC | 22:31 | |
| *** sdake has quit IRC | 22:40 | |
| *** mbound has quit IRC | 22:41 | |
| *** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:49 | |
| *** zhipeng has quit IRC | 22:49 | |
| *** david-lyle has quit IRC | 22:50 | |
| *** david-lyle has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:51 | |
| *** yamahata has quit IRC | 22:52 | |
| *** mbound has quit IRC | 22:54 | |
| *** uxdanielle has quit IRC | 22:55 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 22:56 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:57 | |
| *** banix has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:59 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 23:01 | |
| *** rbak has quit IRC | 23:01 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 23:02 | |
| *** julim has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 23:03 | |
| *** mickeys has quit IRC | 23:09 | |
| *** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 23:10 | |
| *** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 23:11 | |
| *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 23:13 | |
| *** mickeys has quit IRC | 23:14 | |
| *** marst has quit IRC | 23:14 | |
| *** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 23:15 | |
| *** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 23:17 | |
| *** sdake has quit IRC | 23:20 | |
| *** sdake_ is now known as sdake | 23:21 | |
| *** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 23:22 | |
| *** VW has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 23:30 | |
| *** mrmartin has quit IRC | 23:33 | |
| *** VW has quit IRC | 23:34 | |
| *** RuiChen has quit IRC | 23:38 | |
| *** Benj_ has quit IRC | 23:38 | |
| *** sigmavirus is now known as sigmavirus_away | 23:41 | |
| *** bklei has joined #openstack-meeting-3 | 23:55 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.14.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!