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matjazp#startmeeting training-guides13:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 11 13:01:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:01
matjazphey all13:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'training_guides'13:01
diablo_rojo_phonHello :)13:01
matjazproll call13:01
matjazphi diablo_rojo_phon ildikov13:01
ianychoihi matjazp13:02
ianychoihi ildikov diablo_rojo_phon13:02
matjazphey ianychoi13:02
ildikovhi everyone :)13:02
matjazp#link Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-meeting-agenda13:02
matjazp#topic Review of action items from the previous meeting13:03
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matjazpsee meeting minutes at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-10-04-13.01.html13:03
ildikovwe decided to go with LP13:04
matjazp#info we will use LP at the Barcelona training13:04
ianychoi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375834/13:04
matjazpkmARC around?13:04
ildikovfor Barcelona for sure and then switch when we have more projects on Storyboard13:04
diablo_rojo_phonSounds good to me13:05
matjazpildikov: yes, I've read the infra responses13:05
ildikovwe should still introduce Storyboard on the training in a few words, but do the exercises with LP13:05
ildikovmatjazp: cool, tnx13:05
ianychoiIt merged but the problem is .. I created https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-dev-sandbox/+bug/1631584 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384071/ to test but openstack-infra did not write any comment on LP.13:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1631584 in openstack-dev-sandbox "Test with openstack-dev/sandbox integration is needed" [Undecided,New]13:05
ianychoiI tried to investivate the root case.. but have not found yet...13:05
ildikovwe contacted DreamHost with kmARC and now he has an account to test with13:05
ianychoiAnybody can investigate in it?13:05
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ianychoiamotoki, hi :)13:06
matjazpildikov: great, he can report his findings later to the ML13:06
ianychoiildikov, good :)13:06
ildikovI will ping him regarding where he is with these13:06
-amotoki- just becomes online and IRC client got connected13:07
ildikovI also plan to contact the students who signed up, and I would like to verfiy with him the laptop requirements to send out13:07
diablo_rojo_phonildikov: good idea13:07
matjazpthats great13:08
matjazpwe can see up front if anyone will have a laptop with too little RAM and plan cloud VM for him/her13:08
ildikovmatjazp: exactly13:09
matjazp#action ildikov contacts the trainees and gathers their laptop specs.13:09
matjazp#action kmARC tests cloud VM with Dreamhost13:10
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matjazp#topic Upstream training - review queue13:10
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ildikovmatjazp: I was thinking more to send them what we see needed regarding RAM and disk13:10
matjazpnice progress, everyone13:10
ildikovif I cannot reach kmARC I'll ask the students about what they have...13:10
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ildikovI made some updates to the etherpad also: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-university-improvements13:11
matjazpildikov: yes, but not all will be able to upgrade in time, so we better count those as the one that will use cloud VMs13:11
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matjazpopen reviews: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-guides+status:open,n,z13:12
ildikovI work on the Governance one currently13:12
ildikovI'll upload a patch today13:12
matjazpI'll reword patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383574/ in accordance with suggestions and comments13:12
diablo_rojo_phonI'm waiting for comments on my three.13:13
ildikovI think by the end we're kind of fine what is there13:13
ildikovmatjazp: ^^13:13
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matjazpdiablo_rojo_phon: three?13:14
matjazpildikov: yes, I'll change it minimally so everyone is happy ;)13:14
ildikovdiablo_rojo_phon: the metrics one is merged13:14
ianychoiwhat is three?13:14
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diablo_rojo_phonI thought I had three patches out the.13:14
diablo_rojo_phonTwo then I guess :)13:15
ildikovmatjazp: cool ;)13:15
matjazpdiablo_rojo_phon: you're too slow, 'cause you're on the phone ;)13:15
matjazpdiablo_rojo_phon : and both already have comments13:15
diablo_rojo_phonI just woke up and I'm at the gym. You'll have to give me a break :)13:15
diablo_rojo_phonNice. Will get those addressed today then.13:16
matjazpdiablo_rojo_phon: how can you exercise and type at the same time?13:16
matjazpdiablo_rojo_phon: ahhh, ok.. nice multitasking ;)13:16
diablo_rojo_phonYep :)13:17
matjazpok, so is there anything else to cover here?13:17
diablo_rojo_phonDon't think so. ildikov?13:17
ianychoiWow gym....!! :)13:17
ianychoiI don't think so now13:18
matjazpwe have less than 2 weeks till the training13:18
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ildikovmatjazp: not for the reviews13:18
matjazp#topic Upstream training13:18
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ildikovWe are getting close to have an updated content13:18
matjazpwhat about #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-university-improvements13:18
matjazpanything that is critical there?13:18
ildikovSome more thinking about exercises in general would be useful13:19
ildikovI have two critical items13:19
matjazpbut no blockers, right?13:19
matjazpwhich one?13:19
ildikovWe were discussing to have a Documentation deep dive part like how we have that for code13:19
ildikovAnd I also plan to contact the Working Group Chairs whether a few of them can be around Monday afternoon to chat with those students, who're interested in that area13:20
ildikovthe latter is less complicated13:20
matjazpsounds good, where is the problem? for Docs session deep dive?13:20
ildikovregarding the Docs part I thought to have an overview of the Docs team's work and the tooling around Docs13:20
matjazp#action ildikov contacts Working Group Chairs whether a few of them can be around Monday afternoon to chat with trainees13:21
diablo_rojo_phonNeither ildikov not I are docs  people :)13:21
ildikovI'm a bit behind with organising this, so I plan to send out a mail today to the Docs list13:21
matjazpdiablo_rojo_phon : yes you are, training guides is a part of Docs project ;)13:21
ildikovand get some content and ask whether anyone will be around Monday afternoon to help out13:21
ianychoidiablo_rojo_phon, ildikov you are great contributors on Docs :) training-guides !13:21
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ildikovianychoi: tnx :)13:22
ianychoiOriginally I had an idea to integrate between openstack-dev-sandbox LP and openstack-dev/sandbox repo.. as an exercise...13:23
ildikovmatjazp: ianychoi: so the point is, if we have people who happen to be interested in contributing more to Docs, with diablo_rojo_phon we are not the best people to share the principles of good OpenStack documentation :)13:23
ianychoiIf the integration does not work, I will think about another exercise..13:23
ildikovianychoi: you mean the hook between LP and Gerrit?13:23
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matjazpildikov: we can ask on the ML if anyone from the Docs team will be there on Moday13:23
ianychoiildikov, yes the hook :)13:24
ildikovmatjazp: cool, I will write up my idea and drop a mail with a few questions13:24
matjazpianychoi: did you ask Andreas?13:24
matjazpianychoi: he is super helpful with infra stuff13:24
ildikovmatjazp: if I saw correctly the Docs meeting is in a Europe friendly slot this week, so I can bring this up there too13:24
ianychoimatjazp, not yep.. I need to ask... yep he is so guru :)13:24
matjazpildikov: great, I'll add an Action item13:25
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matjazp#action ildikov asks on Docs ML if anyone from the Docs team will be at the training13:26
ianychoiildikov, yep tomorrow 19:00 UTC for Docs team meeting I think13:26
matjazpildikov: we keep assigning action items to you... if you don't have time to do it, just say and we can reschedule a bit13:26
ildikovmatjazp: I think I have only three yet for today13:27
matjazpildikov: ohh.. so we can assign more, right ;)13:27
ildikovmatjazp: and I delivered on the last meeting's ones so I think I'm good, but let you know if I need some help13:28
ildikovmatjazp: tnx!13:28
matjazpok, that covers the usptream etherpad13:28
ildikovmatjazp: well, we can assign the rest to diablo_rojo_phon as she's so good with multitasking ;)13:28
ianychoiYep... IRC meeting at gym !13:29
diablo_rojo_phonI should probably sleep at some time so I can get rid of this cold before next week.13:29
* matjazp can't type quickly on the phone13:29
diablo_rojo_phonBut I will continue to help wherever I can.13:29
* ildikov neither13:29
ildikovdiablo_rojo_phon: why are you at the gym if you have a cold?13:30
diablo_rojo_phonSweat it out hopefully?13:30
matjazpdiablo_rojo_phon: what phone size do you have? 10" ;)13:30
ildikovdiablo_rojo_phon: just take it easy and to make it worse!13:31
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ildikovdiablo_rojo_phon: if you want to sweat it out properly then stay in bed with lots of hot tea!!!13:31
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ildikovok Doctor Ildiko is off, ildikov is back13:31
matjazpwhen I try to type quickly on the phone, it looks like I'm having a stroke and dyslexia at the same time ;)13:32
ianychoioh welcome back ildikov :)13:32
matjazpok, next topic?13:32
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diablo_rojo_phonHaha yes doctor. And no matjazp its like 513:32
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ildikovmatjazp: autocorrect is your friend mostly13:32
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matjazpildikov : not when you're using Slovene13:32
ianychoiI have got a cold.. health is important to everyone :)13:32
ildikovmatjazp: I have my phone language set to English to make it work friendly...13:32
ildikovianychoi: :)13:33
matjazp#topic Team meeting at the Summit in Barcelona13:33
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matjazpas it turns out, I will be attending the Barcelona Summit13:34
ildikovdiablo_rojo_phon and myself we are around whole week13:34
ildikovmatjazp: great news!13:34
matjazpI didn't konw that in advance, so I dodn't plan any meetings before13:34
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matjazpbut I would love to talk with you guys13:34
ildikovmatjazp: when do you arrive to BCN?13:34
ianychoimatjazp, wow let's see on Friday!13:34
matjazpall the Docs slots are taken13:34
matjazpianychoi: yes13:35
ianychoiUnfortunately I will only stay on Friday afternoon..13:35
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matjazpildikov: Monday at midnight13:35
matjazpI have a flight at 22.00 at Venice ariport13:35
ildikovianychoi: you mean you will be there only on Friday?13:36
diablo_rojo_phonI fly in the 18th and leave the 29th.13:36
matjazpI still work on Monday13:36
ildikovmatjazp: business never stops... :( :)13:37
ianychoiildikov, yes I had not planned to go there because of my busy work.. but since I nominated as I18n Ocata PTL, I decided to attend just I18n contributors meetup.13:37
matjazpdiablo_rojo_phon: yes, but you Fondation gals&guys are supposed to be there all the time, right ;)13:37
ildikovianychoi: long trip for a half day :(13:37
matjazpianychoi ildikov: my thoughts exactly.. long trip for one day13:38
ildikovianychoi: I think by Friday we will be mostly available. when do you get in?13:38
ianychoiildikov, but fine. I will be look around Baecelona on Saturday morning!13:38
ildikovianychoi: fair enough :)13:38
ianychoiMy estimated flight arrival at Barcelona is 11am13:38
matjazpianychoi : oh, so you're literally attending JUST the meetup13:39
ildikovianychoi: so we might be able to have lunch together if your flight gets in in time?13:39
ianychoimatjazp, yep :) ildikov wow great idea!13:39
matjazpildikov : isn't there just a lunch packet on Friday?13:39
ianychoiI will ping ildikov and matjazp by mail after my arrival13:39
matjazpianychoi: do that13:40
ildikovmatjazp: I think we can find something close if the local options are not that great13:40
matjazpok, back to the training guides meeting in Barcelona... can we arrange smthng? Some ad hoc meeting?13:40
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ildikovmy schedule is a bit foggy still, but it would be great to sit together a bit after the training13:41
ildikovwe might wait until Friday and have a kind of lunch meeting13:42
matjazpwe can try to sync over the ML to inlude other that are interested13:42
ildikovor we can figure out smth for the week13:42
ildikovmatjazp: cool, that works too13:42
matjazpwe can see who's interested13:42
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ianychoicool :)13:43
ildikov+1 :)13:44
diablo_rojo_phonFriday lunch is the community contributor awards and feedback session so I couldn't make it.13:44
ildikovdiablo_rojo_phon: good point, I forgot that's on Friday :(13:44
csatariHi all.13:45
ianychoiI think on Austin, community contributor awards helo with lunch13:45
csatariSorry for being late.13:45
ianychoicsatari, hi!13:45
matjazp#action matjazp organises a training guides team meeting in Barcelona over a Docs ML13:45
ildikovdiablo_rojo_phon: we should all be there, as that's a litlle bit of a community joy13:45
matjazphey csatari13:45
csatariIs there still some material what needs to be reworked?13:45
ildikovcsatari: hi :)13:45
ildikovcsatari: we're mostly getting there now13:45
ildikovcsatari: you could look into exercises for the blocks13:46
ildikovcsatari: for the updated modules we tried to add new ones, but I think there are still a few that could use some more thoughts13:47
csatariildikov> Okay, I can check them and suggest changes if I have some beter idea that the existing.13:47
ildikovcsatari: you can check the main etherpad regarding ideas we had so far: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-university-improvements13:47
ildikovcsatari: and you can check the current content also, we have only three open reviews currently so it's not that messy13:48
ildikovcsatari: feel free to ping me or diablo_rojo_phon with ideas, suggestions or just upload a patch13:49
ildikovcsatari: tnx! :)13:49
matjazp#topic aob13:49
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matjazpanything left to discuss?13:49
csatariildikov>  Okay, thanks.13:50
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ianychoiI want to replace #upstream-university with #openstack-101 in training materials.13:50
ildikovmatjazp: one question13:50
ianychoiWould it be fine to all?13:50
matjazpianychoi : you mean IRC channel?13:50
ildikovianychoi: I was wondering to use an IRC channel during the training to even collect feedback on the fly13:51
matjazp channel #openstack-101 is logged in the eavesdrop right?13:51
ildikovianychoi: would #openstack-101 suitable for that too?13:51
ianychoiildikov, #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/upstream_training/2014/upstream_training.2014-11-01-12.43.html13:52
ianychoi#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/upstream_training/2014/upstream_training.2014-11-01-12.43.html13:52
ianychoiildikov, matjazp it is currently under review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367005/13:52
ianychoiBut after merging this patch, then I think we can have IRC meeting on #openstack-10113:52
matjazpso we should reach to the infra to merge it ASAP13:53
matjazpit is stuck in review queue13:53
ianychoiildikov, such IRC meeting during upstream training with students is so interactive and beneficial I think13:53
matjazpyou can all +1 it to get more eyeballs on it13:53
ildikovianychoi: coolio13:53
ildikovmatjazp: I did already13:54
ianychoiBringing just a simple topic: e.g., lunch menu, who looks beautiful in the room? ... :)13:54
matjazpdiablo_rojo_phon csatari ?13:54
ianychoiwould make upstream-training vital!13:54
ildikovianychoi: :)13:54
matjazpianychoi : ehhhhh... no beauty pageants please13:55
matjazpianychoi: sync over lunch is better ;)13:55
diablo_rojo_phonmatjazp: +113:55
matjazp5 min till the end13:56
ildikovmatjazp: I was wondering about +2 rights in the training-guides repo for diablo_rojo_phon or myself in case we find something that needs to be fixed last minue13:56
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ildikovmatjazp: I wouldn't want to "fork" the training material if possible :)13:56
csatarimatjazp> +1-ed.13:57
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matjazpildikov: for that we include in cores the upstream training lead... Marton I believe?13:57
ildikovmatjazp: could we do that for the training maybe?13:57
ianychoiildikov, are you currently upstream lead? or Marton?13:58
matjazpbut since you're been so involved, I guess you and diablo_rojo_phon are the next candidates for sure13:58
ildikovmatjazp: ok, I'll sync with Marton when he gets to BCN13:58
matjazpMarton already has +2 rights on the training repo by function13:58
ildikovianychoi: good question :)13:58
diablo_rojo_phonSounds good.13:59
ildikovianychoi: I'm the acting one currently for sure13:59
matjazpildikov: if you're the upsteram training lead, you get the +2 by function immediately13:59
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matjazpwe decided that in Paris Summit (+2 for current lead of the upstream training)14:00
matjazpok, bye all14:00
matjazptimes up14:00
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ildikovmatjazp: I will contact Marton and check where we are on this14:00
ianychoi#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2016-June/008762.html14:01
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tdurakov#startmeeting Nova Live Migration14:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 11 14:01:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tdurakov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration'14:01
tdurakovhi everyone14:01
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* kashyap waves14:02
tdurakovlet's start14:02
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tdurakovagenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration14:02
tdurakov#topic CI14:02
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tdurakovpkoniszewski, raj_singh, any updates on grenade job?14:03
pkoniszewskiwell, patches are waiting for review14:03
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raj_singhhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/364809/ is merged14:03
pkoniszewskinothing moved forward there14:04
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pkoniszewskiI mean, patches that do implement new config option to execute ping-pong live migrations14:04
tdurakovpkoniszewski: haven't seen tempest patch, we've discussed last time14:04
mriedemdo we have a d-g patch that tests the tempest change?14:05
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mriedemah https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382456/14:05
pkoniszewskinot sure whether it is enough to test it, is it?14:05
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mriedemwell, it should be14:06
mriedemset in tempest.conf in http://logs.openstack.org/56/382456/4/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode/b447a15/logs/new/tempest_conf.txt.gz14:06
mriedem[compute-feature-enabled] attach_encrypted_volume = True live_migrate_back_and_forth = True14:06
mriedemit is14:06
pkoniszewskiyeah, so it should be enough14:06
mriedemis it set on the old side?14:06
mriedemlooks like it's not http://logs.openstack.org/56/382456/4/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode/b447a15/logs/old/tempest_conf.txt.gz14:07
mriedemoh i know why14:07
pkoniszewskiif it needs to be set on both sides i need to improve it then14:07
mriedemb/c we don't hae the var in devstack in stable/newton14:07
mriedemwe don't want to run that in stable/newton i don't think14:07
pkoniszewskido we know on which node tempest is running? I mean, do we need to have the config option set on both sides?14:08
mriedemso basically, this means we'd only run the live migration back and forth in the grenade multinode job and only on master changes (ocata+)14:08
mriedemit's on both sides14:08
tdurakovpkoniszewski: it's master node in d-g terms14:09
mriedemgrenade multinode is a full newton, run smoke tests, upgrade everything to ocata except one compute node stays newton, then run ocata tempest smoke tests14:09
mriedemso on the 'new' side you have ocata on one host, and newton on an n-cpu14:09
pkoniszewskiso i'd need to backport this change14:10
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mriedemyou'd have to backport the devstack change if we wanted to run live migration back and forth on the old side14:10
mriedemwhich is newton14:10
mriedembut do we?14:10
tdurakovmriedem, tempest is installed on the master node, right?14:11
mriedemthat would also change grenade multinode jobs on stable/newton to run this14:11
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mriedemtempest is run from the controller...yes14:11
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tdurakovwell, there is no need to backport any14:12
mriedemtempest is branchless14:12
pkoniszewskiokay, so we can leave it as it is right now, it should be enough to have this flag set only on a 'new' node14:12
mriedemd-g is branchless14:12
mriedemso the only thing that keeps us from running lm back and forth on newton is devstack14:12
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mriedemand i don't think we need to expose newton to this right now14:13
mriedemsince it's in stable branch mode14:13
pkoniszewskidevstack change is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382451/14:13
pkoniszewskiso this is a chain of three patches ATM: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379638/ (tempest) -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382451/ (devstack) -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382456 (devstack-gate)14:14
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mriedemi'm +1 on the d-g change14:14
mriedemi'll work down the stack14:14
pkoniszewskithanks mriedem for your support there14:15
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tdurakovanything else on that?14:16
tdurakovare there plans to test this on different backends?14:16
pkoniszewskiwe can move forward14:16
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pkoniszewskithis gate uses the same hooks, so once we enable NFS and Ceph backend back again we will have both tested in greande job too14:17
pkoniszewskithe same hooks as a normal job14:17
tdurakovpkoniszewski: let's discuss it after meeting, have concerns on that14:18
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tdurakov#topic Bugs14:18
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tdurakovmarkus_z: are you around?14:18
markus_zyep, I'm here14:19
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markus_zI wanted to ask for reviews for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275801/14:19
markus_z^ solves a 1yr old issue when live-migrating and instance which has serial-console support.14:19
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pkoniszewskii will make sure to test this14:20
markus_zA backport to newton would be desirable too14:20
markus_zpkoniszewski: Awesome, thanks. You could use https://github.com/markuszoeller/openstack/tree/master/scripts/vagrant/live-migration-U1404-VB if you like.14:20
pkoniszewskiokay, if i don't manage to resurrect my env, thanks!14:21
tdurakov28 versions, ok, let's test and review it.14:23
tdurakovmarkus_z: thanks for bringing this14:23
pkoniszewskiwe have some outstanding high bugs with fixes up for review14:24
tdurakovpkoniszewski: share links on that14:24
pkoniszewskisearching for14:24
pkoniszewskihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/339588/ - LM currently does not honor affinity/anti-affinity policies14:25
pkoniszewskihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/356558/ - fixes LM on dedicated interface when tunnelling is OFF (by default in newton tunnelling is off)14:26
johnthetubaguyLooks like some of these are listed, but maybe a few more to add? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking14:26
tdurakovthere is 1 unassigned high bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/156662214:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1566622 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live migration fails with xenapi virt driver and SRs with old-style naming convention" [High,Confirmed]14:27
tdurakovjohnthetubaguy: you've reviewed fix on that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307541/14:28
tdurakovjohnthetubaguy: is it ok to restore and update it?14:28
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johnthetubaguytdurakov: possibly, I thought we merged something on that one though... I don't 100% remember now14:29
johnthetubaguytdurakov: it made we want to do lots of refactoring, but not sure14:30
tdurakovneed to figure out whether is still valid or not14:30
tdurakovjohnthetubaguy: could you help with it?14:30
tdurakov#topic specs14:32
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tdurakovdo we have any new specs except 2 in agenda?14:32
tdurakovpkoniszewski: do you still going to restore sr-iov one?14:33
pkoniszewskitdurakov: yes14:33
pkoniszewskitdurakov: haven't found time yet14:33
tdurakovcool, I'm going to wrap things in the etherpad today14:34
tdurakovto track ocata things14:34
johnthetubaguytdurakov: I can try help with that, although its on quite a big stack right now14:34
tdurakovjohnthetubaguy: refactoring?14:35
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johnthetubaguytdurakov: basically that bit of the xenapi driver is messy around its use of the objects, and dicts and other stuff, so I want to tidy that all up at some point14:36
tdurakovok, help is welcome on that14:36
tdurakovvery welcome:)14:36
tdurakov#topic open discussions14:37
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johnthetubaguyI do have some WIP patches / stuff in my head about how that should work, I will try get to that14:37
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tdurakovmarkus_z, there is a question in agenda, so?14:38
markus_zYeah, I thought I might ask here14:39
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markus_zMy question is, how do we handle live-migrations to target nodes with an older hypervisor version today?14:39
pkoniszewskiwe don't allow them14:39
markus_zLet's say we have qemu 2.7.0 on the source node and qemu 2.3.0 on the target node.14:39
johnthetubaguywe fail, in some cases, in pre-livemigration, I think14:40
pkoniszewskiin conductor14:40
davidgilukmarkus_z: With upstream qemu that's very unlikely to work14:40
markus_zOh, in conductor you say? I have checked only the libvirt driver.14:40
kashyapmarkus_z: I think he means having machine types compatilibity, etc14:41
johnthetubaguyyeah, thats it14:41
pkoniszewskiwe do check version of the hypervisor basing on what we have in DB14:41
kashyapdavidgiluk: Isn't it, when you're referring to fwd & backward migr14:41
pkoniszewskiso we only allow old -> new live migrations14:41
markus_zAh man, yeah, thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for14:41
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tdurakovI wonder, could it be blocker during upgrades?14:42
pkoniszewskiit can be14:42
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tdurakovif smth goes wrong it will be impossible to get back to old compute, right?14:42
pkoniszewskimarkus_z: it can be when you are moving VMs to newer operating system14:43
pkoniszewskie.g. from 14.04 to 16.0414:43
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pkoniszewskiyou might not be able to move back to 14.0414:43
pkoniszewskiunless you upgrade QEMU on 14.04 side14:43
markus_zI thought the VM of the source node gets killed *after* the l-m was successful?14:43
tdurakovif there will be no check, will it be technically  possible? on libvirt/qemu layers14:43
pkoniszewskidavidgiluk just said that it's very unlikely to work14:44
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tdurakovokay then14:45
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markus_zthanks a lot :)14:46
tdurakovI'd prefer to have some soft checks flags for that14:46
davidgilukpkoniszewski: backwards migration tends not to work unless you're either 1) very lucky or 2) Someone has done a lot of work to wire the machine types to be exactly the same (that we do downstream)14:46
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tdurakovthanks davidgiluk14:47
pkoniszewskihmm, can we base on configuration then? i mean, when someone explicitly sets machine type in nova.conf? but how would we know whether this machine type is supported by QEMU on both sides, maybe we need another precheck during check_can_live_migrate14:47
tdurakovpkoniszewski: worth to test, I thinh14:48
pkoniszewskiyeah, something we might want to check14:48
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tdurakovanything else to bring?14:49
davidgilukpkoniszewski: It's difficult to check, for example it might be one particular device that used some new field in a new qemu14:49
tdurakovdavidgiluk: i think it's not about upgrades14:50
tdurakovbut still14:51
tdurakovthanks everyone for participating14:51
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gothicmindfoodcourtesy ping courtesy reminder dhellmann, amrith, ttx, jroll, johnthetubaguy, sdague, mordred, carolbarrett, nikhil, mugsie, thingie, alexismonville, edleafe15:01
alexismonvilleI will try to multitask a bit :)15:01
gothicmindfood#startmeeting swg15:01
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gothicmindfood#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SWGMeeting15:02
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gothicmindfoodwe've got a pretty light agenda today15:02
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gothicmindfoodthere were no action items, looks like15:02
ttxSmall remark on action items15:02
ttxThe SWG dsicussion is now scheduled15:03
gothicmindfoodttx: oh yay!15:03
gothicmindfoodyes, I believe I saw it on the ML15:03
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ttxlet me check link15:03
gothicmindfood#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16923/cross-project-workshops-re-inventing-the-tc-the-stewardship-working-group-discussion15:03
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ttxThe others that happened before but wasn't really recorded is that version 0 of the principles was finally adopted15:04
* gothicmindfood added a little bit to our Barcelona vision to include it in our vision of the day, really, Wednesday, where both the cross project session andt he panel will happen15:04
gothicmindfoodttx: awesome!15:04
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gothicmindfoodttx: is there a final link for that?15:04
dhellmann#link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/principles.html15:05
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ttxwill a pipeline of proposed changes already, which is great15:05
gothicmindfoodyes, it's awesome to see engagement on that.15:06
gothicmindfoodttx: do we imagine we'll be discussing those changes, etc., at the cross project workshop?15:06
amrithsorry folks, am late15:06
gothicmindfoodamrith: np. :) we're just covering what's happened in the last couple weeks15:06
amriththx gothicmindfood; am reading scrollback15:07
amrithcourtesy ping for dhellmann, gothicmindfood, ttx, jroll, johnthetubaguy, sdague, mordred, carolbarrett, nikhil, mugsie, thingie, alexismonville, edleafe15:07
amrithso one thing I noticed is that the cp workshop is before the panel15:07
gothicmindfoodamrith: yeah, that's all we had, options-wise15:07
amrithoh, it's fine; it means that the cp discussions can inform the panel15:08
gothicmindfoodbut also - might not be the worst order - we will certainly understand more before the panel about what people want to talk about15:08
amriththough I expect that we may get different audiences to the two sessions15:09
mugsieyeah, I was going to say it might be useful to pull in some of the feedback from the workshop to the panel discussions15:09
gothicmindfoodthat's also possible15:09
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gothicmindfoodmugsie: ++15:09
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gothicmindfoodas far as TC member attendance goes, I figured we should probably reach out to everyone just to confirm with them what times we have meetups to see who from the TC can make it15:10
alexismonvilleis there's already a preparation document of the workshop?15:10
* johnthetubaguy is lurking, but has another meeting running over, sorry :(15:11
gothicmindfoodalexismonville: not yet, we just have our vision for the whole of the summit here:15:11
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gothicmindfood#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BarcelonaSWGMagic15:11
alexismonvillegothicmindfood: thank you15:11
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gothicmindfoodto that mind, we can push through to:15:12
gothicmindfood#topic Discuss any documents that are available for review15:12
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gothicmindfoodI added a little bit to that Barcelona vision etherpad15:12
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alexismonvilleok we will need to prepare a way for the workshop to deliver something that will feed the panel discussion, that could be something displayed on the wall of the room15:13
gothicmindfoodshould we start a cross project etherpad now, or later?15:13
ttxgothicmindfood: can start now15:13
gothicmindfoodalexismonville: can we make it an etherpad, or should we plan on having post-its/physical drawing-on things?15:13
amrithsince the topics are proximate, want to use the same one as the panel?15:13
ttxand reference it in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Ocata/Etherpads15:13
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alexismonvillegothicmindfood: I would say that physical drawing can be more effective15:14
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gothicmindfoodalexismonville: the only problem with that is making folks not physically in attendance able to participate/witness what's going on15:15
alexismonvillegothicmindfood: I agree that the drawing will target only the people in the room, we could duplicate the information on a pad?15:16
mugsie_for these discussions, is that a big deal? If it can be captured after, that should be good enough.15:16
gothicmindfoodany thoughts on whether we should rely on an etherpad only, or whether it would help to have post-its/physical drawing possibilities for attendees in the room?15:16
* gothicmindfood can certainly take pictures and mail it to the -dev list15:16
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dhellmannwill we have the tools to create a drawing? we don't always.15:17
dhellmannand what is it we're going to be drawing? that part is still not clear to me.15:17
mugsie_I am in favour of physical drawings, if we have the equipment15:17
gothicmindfood#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Barcelona-SWG-cp15:17
gothicmindfoodlet's use ^^ for the CP session -15:17
jrollI'd say we don't plan on drawing things, but if we happen to have a whiteboard or something, we can draw things if it helps15:18
gothicmindfood#action gothicmindfood to update wiki with SWG CP etherpad link15:18
gothicmindfoodjroll: I'm not sure we'll have whiteboards - it might make sense for me to buy a large drawing pad and bring some markers15:18
gothicmindfoodor maybe a couple of those?15:18
jrollthat's fine too, if you think it'll be useful15:18
* gothicmindfood also has a secret stash of post-its she can bring15:19
dhellmannmaybe we should start with a plan for what will be discussed first?15:19
gothicmindfooddhellmann: yeah, I think that would help15:19
gothicmindfoodI think there's this uncertainty right now about what we want to talk about/cover15:19
dhellmannright, and deciding that will help us understand what tools we may want15:20
gothicmindfooddhellmann: and I talked a bit about it last week/week before re: what subjects to cover and how15:20
gothicmindfood(in #openstack-swg)15:20
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gothicmindfooddo we think we'll be running down basic concepts, and explaining them a lot? do we think we'll just be taking questions from people and kind of forming discussion around that?15:20
dhellmannwell, the former sounds like a presentation, and we try not to do those in design sessions15:21
jrollright, we should go in with a thing we want to solve15:21
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gothicmindfoodthat sounds like a good direction15:22
gothicmindfoodwhat do we want to solve?15:22
jrolland spend the time figuring out how to solve that thing15:22
* dhellmann looks back at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swg-short-list-deliverables15:23
gothicmindfoodI think there was some sense that we were expecting feedback on what we've accomplished on that list, right?15:23
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gothicmindfood(thanks for the link dhellmann!)15:23
dhellmannI would like to solve the problem of people not getting important information because the -dev mailing list is so busy.15:24
mugsie_dhellmann: ++15:24
dhellmannsee line 14015:24
gothicmindfooddhellmann: that would be an incredibly huge accomplishment15:24
dhellmannthe pitch for the cp session also asks a lot of questions that might solicit interesting answers15:26
dhellmannhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BarcelonaSWGMagic line 4315:26
gothicmindfooddhellmann: yeah, and I think improving communication fits well with all of that15:28
dhellmannas a design session, we want to either come out with a decision or some sort of next-step action we can take. how do we frame these things to support one of those two outcomes?15:29
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ttxdhellmann: maybe help establish priorities in what we'll work on ?15:29
dhellmannttx: ++15:29
ttx(beyond recruitment)15:29
gothicmindfoodttx: ++15:29
gothicmindfoodwe can hone/create our next list of deliverables based on feedback from the community, for sure15:30
ttxI'd like to get out of there with a sense of what matters most15:30
alexismonvillewe could ask the one thing the people want15:30
ttxrather than my own idea of what matters most :)15:30
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johnthetubaguy+1 on the establish priorities goal, thats a great way to get buy in on the process15:32
gothicmindfoodso - I like that idea. Do we have anything else we expect to get out of the CP session?15:32
johnthetubaguya plan for the number 1 priority, and who does what?15:32
* gothicmindfood figures we'll learn about context-gaps to fill for our panel session, for sure15:32
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johnthetubaguydo we have a good crisp description of all the things we want, I guess that deliverables list is close15:33
dhellmannyeah, I expect asking "what would you like to see done differently?" will either spur more discussion than we'll have time for or will expose a lack of interest that will itself be useful information15:33
gothicmindfooddhellmann: right, I mean, I try to be careful with lack of context or talking around a thing to mean lack of interest, too - sometimes just not having a background or common words to use to frame a discussion can discourage it15:34
ttxIt's fine to discuss more operational stuff like "who does what" there as well15:34
gothicmindfoodnot necessarily a lack of interest15:34
ttxit's a workshop, not a panel15:34
ttxif it's only us present in the room, we can use some of the time to get some stuff prioritized and/or started15:35
gothicmindfoodis it an interesting place to start the discussion of visioning for the TC in particular?15:35
ttxmaybe. It's only 40min15:35
johnthetubaguyttx: I like the idea of doing that anyways15:35
johnthetubaguyin the presence of those that may want to help / have input15:36
ttxwe'll have different audiences at the panel and the CPW15:36
ttxthe panel, I see it as an opportunity to reach out beyond our usual constituency and give out signals that we are working on improving leadership in openstack15:37
dhellmannright, keep in mind that it's only 40 minutes. if we expect to have to provide a lot of context about what we're even talking about, we're going to want to focus on 1 desirable outcome rather than try to pack it full of a bunch of topics15:37
ttxthe workshop, as a way to reality-check with contributors and get work prioritized/started15:37
ttxthe former is a communications exercise, the latter a work session :)15:38
ttxif only because only the former is recorded15:38
persiaSo, avoid the context and focus on coordination for the workshop, and then use that to drive context explanation for the panel?15:38
gothicmindfoodpersia: I was wondering the same thing.15:39
dhellmannhow many people do we expect to attend both?15:39
gothicmindfoodI think we'll have to just find a balance for providing context where we need to, but punt to the panel discussion on issues that don't drive us forward to get us an outcome in the cp session15:39
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johnthetubaguyI would consider the workshop as an in person IRC meeting, where are are likely to be some new folks that turn up, but maybe thats just me15:40
gothicmindfooddhellmann: I would assume more people will attend the panel session than the workshop.15:40
gothicmindfood(but that's also because the other cpw I wanted to go to is at the exact same time as ours, so maybe I'm biased)15:40
dhellmanngothicmindfood : I will be surprised to see many contributors in the panel session. I expect mostly other types of community members there.15:41
gothicmindfooddhellmann: ah, okay.15:41
dhellmannmaybe I'm assuming there are too many interesting design sessions at that time, though15:41
ttxunpredictable but yes, a *lot* of upstream devs just skip conference and watch a few talks later on video15:42
* edleafe falls into that group15:43
gothicmindfoodwell - let me flip the question15:43
gothicmindfooddoes anyone want me to target folks for invites to either session?15:43
gothicmindfoodTC members? PTLs?15:43
johnthetubaguythats certainly my approach, as I generally have one or two design summit sessions I would like to be in, before you look at the conference stuff15:43
* gothicmindfood has a reputation for pestering people to go to things anyhow15:43
dhellmanngothicmindfood : I think the design summit session would be useful for tc members who can attend.15:45
ttx+1 for considerintg the CPW session a live SWG meetign15:45
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gothicmindfooddhellmann: okay, I'll make sure to just let each TC member know what we're hoping to get done there. Obvs not everyone will be able to go, but getting a personal ask always helps raise awareness15:46
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gothicmindfood#action gothicmindfood to give cpw session info to TC members individually15:47
gothicmindfooddhellmann: oh no, that's the future fundraiser for training for the whole community coming out in me! :)15:47
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gothicmindfoodwell, we've meandered into open discussion anyhow, but15:48
gothicmindfood#topic Open Discussion15:48
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gothicmindfoodlooks like we covered a lot of Barcelona already15:49
gothicmindfoodwhich was the only listed topic there on our agenda15:49
gothicmindfooddoes anyone have anything else they'd like to cover?15:49
* gothicmindfood is very psyched to see everyone who will be in Barcelona, btw15:49
ttxnothing from me15:50
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gothicmindfoodis there anyone that's *not* going to Barcelona in the group who wants us to take notes/make sure we cover anything?15:50
* gothicmindfood will also ask in the swg channel15:50
gothicmindfoodI'm going to end the meeting a few minutes early then15:52
gothicmindfoodthanks everyone!15:52
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jrollthanks :)15:52
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ttxgothicmindfood: thanks!15:53
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sambettsIts time for the Networking-cisco meeting16:00
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sambettsThe agenda for today can be found16:01
cabouchacarol here16:01
sambetts#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/networking-cisco16:01
tbachmansambetts: hi!16:01
sambettsthe first thing I'm going to do is a roll call so if everyone here can response with a "o/" then it'll give us a record of the attendees16:02
sambetts#topic Roll call16:02
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sambettsOk, I can see tbachman is here too, so lets move on16:04
sambetts#topic Announcements16:04
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sambettsThe biggest annouchment I think is that we are very close to cutting release 4.0.0, we had intended to release last week, but due to CI being down and wanting to get a couple of last patches in we've pushed back16:05
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sambettsI hope to push the last couple of patches in today if we can, I'll talk more about those in the review priorities topic16:06
* tbachman wonders what he missed (CVO decided to hiccup)16:06
sambettstbachman: http://paste.openstack.org/show/585353/16:07
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tbachmansambetts: thx!16:07
sambettsThe plan now is to release a 4.0.0 release ASAP and follow up with a 4.1.0 release with any further enhancments we want to get in, but releasing the 4.0.0 release  gives us something to fall back to and means the finished drivers are out there ready to be used16:08
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sambettsThe only other annouchment is that the Cisco CI is back up and posting results as of end of last week/beginning of this week16:10
sambettsbut I'll go into that further in the CI status topic16:10
* tbachman gives a cheer16:10
sambettsare there any other annoucements people have??16:10
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bradjonesnot from me16:11
sambettsOkie doke, moving onto the next topic16:11
sambetts#topic CI status16:11
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sambettsSo like I said Cisco CI is now back up and running \o/16:12
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tbachmansambetts: congrats, and thanks for all the hard work chasing that (and people) down!16:12
* pc_m yay16:12
sambettsafter the network and other testbed issues resolved we're seeing a good turn around on patches in around 30mins per patch :D16:12
cabouchaagreed Sam did an outstanding job16:12
shwetaapyea, Thanks Sam!16:13
sambettsthere seems to be only one hicup with the CI job for pnr-ncs, which I don't know if its a code issue or testbed issue, but I see seg faults which is weird for python code16:13
sambettsso I think that needs further investigation so please disregard failures caused by that in the pnr-ncs job16:14
bradjonessambetts: is that only for the stable newton tests?16:14
sambettsit seems like it16:15
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sambettspc_m: any updates regarding the coverage job? I see that it is failing in most if not all patches, is it still because of the timeout issue?16:16
sambettspc_m: or just poor coding ;)16:16
bradjonessambetts: you beat me to it ;)16:16
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pc_mWell, it seems to be running, but for some patches it is timing out.16:16
pc_mWe need to request a longer run time, not sure how much more time we need.16:17
sambettsok, so we still need to persude infra to bump the timeout on that test, and maybe move it to experimental16:17
pc_mWould be good with someone that has a good relationship with infra to get more time.16:17
pc_msambetts: yes16:17
pc_mthen, later can be put back to check queue.16:17
tbachmanpc_m: didn’t sdake offer to help with this?16:17
tbachmanor at least connect folks?16:18
pc_mtbachman: yes.16:18
pc_mI can ping him.16:18
sambettsI can push on that if not, I've had quite a bit of experience with them working on refactoring the Ironic CI jobs16:18
pc_mWe also need to (strongly) encourage people to run coverage locally, and ensure we don't make things worse.16:18
pc_mIt works locally, since the recent fixes.16:18
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* pc_m :)16:19
sambettsits something we all need to get better at heh16:19
pc_mYes, or we make the job voting, but that can be painful. Self policing would be better.16:19
sambettspc_m: is there a way with the coverage job to make it focus only on the files/tests changed by a patch so as to reduce the run time?16:20
tbachmanone thing — is a number instead of a percent the right way to qualify this?16:20
* tbachman isn’t even sure if a percent is doable…. just thinking out loud16:20
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pc_msambetts: Right now, it does a comparison based test. Runs on baseline, then on changeset and compares.16:20
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pc_mDifficulty is people can be adding/changing/deleting code.16:21
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SridarKHi all16:21
sambettso/ SridarK16:21
pc_mThere is a missing coverage count limit that determines if pass/fail. Set to 4 lines right now, but could be changed in project-config.16:22
pc_msorry, in cover.bash script in repo.16:22
pc_mSo, if a commit has more than 4 missing lines than previous run, it says the test fails.16:23
tbachmannot saying that 4 lines isn’t the right thing (or 0 lines for that matter). Just throwing something out there. There are also sometimes issues I’ve seen with what it says is covered16:23
tbachmanpc_m: I still have to try that idea on fixing testing of methods that use “pass"16:23
pc_mNot great, as one can game it.16:23
pc_mtbachman: Yes, would like to see if that pragma works. Should.16:24
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tbachmansometimes 100% also can be a bit cookoo. Testing a getter seems unnecessary, imho16:24
tbachmanpc_m: will try it16:24
sambettsmy personal stance on the functions that just have pass in them, is that they are probably there because they are disabling some code that is inherited from the parent class, if that is the case we should have a UT to make sure that the parent code is being disabled16:25
pc_mtbachman: Yeah, that's why I like the comparison. If we have 80% coverage (the 20% being getters), and we add code, it'll catch the missing coverage.16:25
tbachmanpc_m: cool16:26
pc_mIt won't complain that we haven't added coverage to the 20% of getters.16:26
pc_mSo it is a measure of if we are getting better or worse on a commit by commit basis.16:26
SridarKsambetts: with the methods with just pass - we have this pattern on mixins that we inherit from too16:26
pc_mNot my idea, was some script developed for another repo - I just ported it for networking-cisco.16:27
sambettsSridarK: as in mixins that are "abstract classes" ?16:27
SridarKpc_m: could the coverage - reflect a percentage rather than a pass or fail ?16:27
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SridarKsambetts: yes16:27
pc_mThe report will show percentage for baseline and changeset, but the test pass/fail indication is based on the # lines. To work with the job infrastructure.16:28
sambettsSridarK: ah, yes thats a harder case to test for16:29
sambettsSridarK: unless you raise a NotImplemented error or something16:29
sambettsSridarK: but there are still some edge cases16:29
tbachmanwhatever we do, it won’t be perfect16:29
tbachmanbut should cover the main use cases16:30
SridarKsambetts: with respect to coverage - we should get less anal on some of these16:30
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pc_mSridarK: I think the current system does that. It is only detecting if coverage is getting better or worse.16:30
SridarKtbachman: +1 yes and as u said earlier going for the 100% is not worth the effort16:30
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SridarKpc_m: ok got it - so if we stay the same level of coverage percentage or get better - we will pass the test ?16:31
pc_mIOW, if overall coverage is 80% with 2000 missing lines, and it goes to 2010 missing lines, then we know we didn't cover new/changed code.16:31
sambettsSridarK: correct16:32
pc_mSridarK: not based on percentage, which is tough to measure.16:32
sambettsso without bikeshedding to much here, I think we can improve the coverage testing itself over time, but for now we need to push to get the existing job passing and failing consitently16:32
pc_mBased on # lines missing coverage, specifically the delta.16:32
SridarKpc_m: ok makes sense16:32
sambetts#action Submit patch to project-config to increase timeout on coverage job16:33
SridarKsambetts: yes sorry lets move on16:33
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pc_msambetts: Yes. #1 to get time increase. #2 getting people to pay attention to results.16:33
sambettsok awesome :)16:33
sambetts#topic Sub/Driver team feedback16:33
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sambettsSo I added this topic as a chance for the individual driver/dev teams to give an update or feedback on whats going on with their plugin16:34
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sambettsso I'll pass the mic to you guys16:35
SridarKI dont see Bob M around16:35
* tbachman wonders if we have a list of all the driver/dev teams16:36
sambettsnot really, ideally we need to put together one16:36
SridarKi can do a quick update on the L3 stuff - Bob & Shweta have been working thru the UT issues and i believe they are done with them, there are some issues on scale that i just started looking into along with Bob & Shweta16:36
SridarKtbachman: i think u may have more updates on the L3 stuff from ur side as well16:36
cabouchaFor Nexus Driver, only changes recently is refactor unit tests.16:37
tbachmanI’ve got a few more patches in the queue16:37
tbachmanI still need to provide updates for them16:37
tbachmanthat said, I’ve been pulled onto a higher priority project for the week :(16:37
tbachmanhopefully I’ll be able to get back to the patches soon16:37
tbachmanbut likely not before the 4.0.0 release16:38
sdakepc_m what do you need?16:38
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pc_msdake: Will chat after meeting.16:39
sambettstbachman: ok, we'll push in what we can, your ok with us cutting a 4.0.0 release without all your patches in, we'll follow up with a 4.1.0 pretty soon16:39
sdakepc_m roger16:39
tbachmansambetts: sounds good. Do you have any thoughts on the time frame for 4.1.0?16:39
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SridarKThere has been a set of patches from the DFA folks to enable FWaaS with their fabric - these patches all just merged recently16:39
sambettstbachman: your deadline is still the 15th right? or has that changed?16:40
tbachmansambetts: ack. But we’re releasing from our fork for this one, since they aren’t all going to be in there16:40
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tbachmanwe have a maintenance release (usually about 2 weeks afterwards), which is when I was thinking of cutting over, if things work out that way16:41
SridarKsambetts: would it be 4.0.x for the maintenance release ?16:41
tbachmansambetts: keep in mind — as long as I can get this stuff in upstream, we can create our own release artifacts (for now)16:41
sambettsSridarK: 4.1.0, unless everything in it is bug fixes16:41
tbachman(i.e. tho it would be nice to be part of the networking-cisco release, it’s not a requirement for us)16:41
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SridarKsambetts: ok thx16:42
sambettstbachman: do you have any requirement on being included in the RedHat platform release for Newton?16:43
sambettstbachman: I believe the deadline for getting our networking-cisco RPMs built for that release the 21st, anything after than will need to wait for a OSP maintainence update16:44
tbachmansambetts: I’d have to check on that16:44
tbachmanand good question16:45
tbachmansambetts: will that be with the 4.0.0 release?16:45
sambettsif we can get enough merged in time I'd like it to be the 4.1.0 release16:46
tbachmansambetts: things should be better towards the end of this week16:46
sambettsbut I want to get the 4.0.0 release done ASAP as something to fall back to16:46
* tbachman has said things like that before, tho :P16:46
sambettsok, so on that note it brings us nicly onto16:47
sambetts#topic Review Priorities16:47
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sambettsOk, so I'd like to use this section to highlight reviews to focus on16:49
sambettsI have been working on a gerrit dashboard that'll allow us a nicer view of the patches and their statuses for networking-cisco16:50
sambettsright now this is what I've got so far:16:51
sambettsah... that didn't work very well16:51
pc_mshorten url...16:52
sambettsthere are some issues and I have some other sections I want to add like, top 10 most recently approved patches16:52
sambettsbut it should allow us a cleaner view of what is ready for review and want isn't16:53
sambettsFor me the reviews I'd like to focus on are tbachman's ASR + ACI patches as they are the thing we need to merge ASAP to get them into the 4.1.0 release16:54
* tbachman owes some updates to some of those patches16:55
sambettsas well as what you can see on that dashboard16:55
sambettsthere are a large number of WIP patches and older patches with a lot of negative feedback I'd like to clean up16:56
sambettsso just need a rebase or recheck, and to see if they are still relevent16:57
sambettsAs we have 3 minutes left I'll going to move on16:58
sambetts#topic Open Discussion16:58
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sambettsAny one got any thing they want to cover here? OR Any thing that they would like added to the agenda for the meeting in 2 weeks time?16:58
sambettsBtw feel free to update https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/networking-cisco yourself if you think of anything to add in the meantime16:59
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sambettsThanks everyone for coming17:00
tbachmansambetts: thanks!17:00
sambettssee you in 2 weeks, same time, same channel17:01
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