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| jlvillal | Let's go! :) | 17:00 |
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| vgadiraj | o/ | 17:00 |
| mariojv | \o/ | 17:01 |
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| jroll | hey | 17:01 |
| * jlvillal waits... | 17:01 | |
| jroll | #startmeeting ironic | 17:01 |
| jlvillal | :) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 5 17:01:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jroll. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| aslezil | o/ | 17:01 |
| vdrok | o/ | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:01 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:01 |
| mariojv | o/ | 17:01 |
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| galyna_ | Hello to everyone! | 17:01 |
| sambetts | o/ | 17:01 |
| rpioso | o/ | 17:01 |
| rajinir | o/ | 17:01 |
| galyna_ | rloo and all, I'd like to ask about the priority of etags spec in api evolution. As for my status, the spec is updated and needs a review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381991/. And approapriate patches, POC are up, just need uninttests. Thanks for you review in advance | 17:01 |
| rloo | o/ | 17:01 |
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| bfournie | o/ | 17:01 |
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| galyna_ | o/ | 17:01 |
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| krtaylor | o/ | 17:01 |
| jroll | galyna_: please wait for open discussion for review requests :) | 17:02 |
| jroll | as always, the agenda: | 17:02 |
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| jroll | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 17:02 |
| jroll | #topic announcements and reminders | 17:02 |
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| jroll | I just have one thing, I'll be out next week, does someone mind running the meeting? | 17:02 |
| TheJulia | I could run it | 17:03 |
| jroll | awesome, thanks! | 17:03 |
| jroll | #info TheJulia to run next week's meeting | 17:03 |
| vdrok | jaypipes asked about reviews on resource providers stuff -- http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108393.html | 17:03 |
| jroll | vdrok: yeah, that's on my list for today, I encourage others to review it | 17:03 |
| jroll | anything else? | 17:04 |
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| mgould | o/ | 17:05 |
| xavierr | o/ | 17:05 |
| jroll | #topic subteam status reports | 17:05 |
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| jroll | as always | 17:05 |
| jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:05 |
| jroll | around line 79 this week | 17:05 |
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| mjturek | o/ | 17:05 |
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| milan | o/ | 17:06 |
| jroll | looks like dtantsur|brb didn't have time to update bug stats, but I know I saw JayF helping with some triage last week, thanks for that! | 17:06 |
| mariojv | my apologies for missing notification status update last week; i was on vacation | 17:06 |
| mariojv | it's updated this week | 17:06 |
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| JayF | I have been, there's a lot more left to go | 17:06 |
| JayF | but I'll keep trying to triage a couple dozen a day until I've worked through them all | 17:06 |
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| rloo | oh, is dtantsur|brb away today? | 17:07 |
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| rloo | i can update the bug stat i think... | 17:07 |
| rama_y | o/ | 17:07 |
| jroll | rloo: nice, thanks | 17:07 |
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| dtantsur|brb | rloo, I'm semi-away, sorry :( | 17:08 |
| xhku | o/ | 17:08 |
| lindycoder | o/ | 17:08 |
| jroll | luzC: nice job fixing the postgres job :) | 17:08 |
| jroll | er, lucas<tab> is not here :( | 17:08 |
| jroll | looks like rolling upgrades spec can land this week | 17:09 |
| jroll | BFV made good progress \o/ | 17:10 |
| xavierr | only cores can do bug triage? | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | xavierr: No | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | I don't think so | 17:10 |
| jroll | xavierr: no, anyone can help, just be sure to ask questions if you don't know things | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | xavierr: You just need to join the launchpad group | 17:11 |
| rloo | ok, bug stats updated. inspector has 2 critical! :-( | 17:11 |
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| xavierr | jroll jlvillal o/ | 17:11 |
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| jlvillal | xavierr: https://launchpad.net/~ironic-bugs | 17:11 |
| xavierr | jlvillal: thanks | 17:12 |
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| * dtantsur back | 17:12 | |
| dtantsur | thanks rloo for covering me with bug stats | 17:12 |
| rloo | dtantsur: yw, the hardest part was doing the math :) | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | xavierr, join that group and get acquainted with https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | that's all you need | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, re BFV nova part: I guess it's in pretty sad condition, right? | 17:14 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: wrt inspector. 'there might be some controversion w/r ...'. controversy? | 17:14 |
| dtantsur | rloo, it was not me who wrote that, but yes :) | 17:15 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I've not touched it because I pretty much considered that I was mainly pushing this stuff forward alone and the the only way I would be able to get stuff moving is one cycle at a time per project | 17:15 |
| * dtantsur would definitely confuse these words as well | 17:15 | |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: tl;dr help on that front would be awesome! | 17:15 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, ok, Lucas and I may will with it | 17:15 |
| dtantsur | s/may will/will help/ | 17:15 |
| TheJulia | \o/ | 17:15 |
| * TheJulia looks at the clock | 17:16 | |
| jroll | indeed | 17:16 |
| jroll | anything we should add/remove in terms of what to look at this week? | 17:16 |
| * jroll puts next driver comp patch in there | 17:16 | |
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| milan | rloo, ah, yeah | 17:17 |
| milan | thx | 17:17 |
| rloo | milan: :) | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | just a note: I'm out Dec 17 - Jan 2 | 17:17 |
| jroll | good to know | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | so we'd better land a few driver composition before that :) /me sees one on the priority list, good | 17:17 |
| JayF | Similarly; I'm out 12/17 - 12/26 | 17:17 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 17:17 |
| jroll | I actually put this on the agenda | 17:17 |
| jroll | so let's wait to all post our vacation :) | 17:18 |
| TheJulia | jroll: the review url for bfs stuff needs to be updated, but I can take care of that later. Ether pad is hung for me at the moment | 17:18 |
| rloo | 'so we better land everything before Dec 17' :D | 17:18 |
| TheJulia | err, bfv | 17:18 |
| jroll | TheJulia: link it here and I'll do it :) | 17:18 |
| TheJulia | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/ironic+branch:master+topic:bug/1559691 | 17:18 |
| jroll | thanks | 17:18 |
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| jroll | anything else on this topic? | 17:19 |
| TheJulia | I'm expecting to be semi-unavailable for a few days around the 26th, but I'm fine with a meeting on the 2nd. | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | does anybody has a link to nova bp handy? | 17:19 |
| jroll | dtantsur: for? | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | jroll, BFV | 17:19 |
| jroll | dtantsur: not sure we have one, we don't expect it to happen this cycle | 17:19 |
| jroll | afaik | 17:19 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I'll get it, give me a couple minutes | 17:19 |
| jroll | I may be remembering wrong | 17:19 |
| jroll | oh cool | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | we do, I saw it today | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | aha, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/ironic-boot-from-volume | 17:20 |
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| TheJulia | ahh, thank you dtantsur | 17:20 |
| jroll | ok, anything else? | 17:21 |
| jroll | #topic what are core's schedules like for december? What meetings should we cancel? (initial proposal, cancel Dec 26 and Jan 2) | 17:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "what are core's schedules like for december? What meetings should we cancel? (initial proposal, cancel Dec 26 and Jan 2) (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:22 | |
| jroll | so I'm out dec 9-14 and dec 22 - jan 2 | 17:22 |
| jroll | and propose we cancel meetings for dec 26 and jan 2 | 17:22 |
| vdrok | I'm out Jan 2 and Jan 7 :'( | 17:22 |
| rloo | i'm out dec 22 - jan 8 | 17:22 |
| jlvillal | I am out 24-Dec-2016 through 2-Jan-2016. Back on 3-Jan-2016. | 17:23 |
| TheJulia | I'm only really expecting to be out the 26th, maybe sporadically that week. | 17:23 |
| mariojv | not core but out 22nd-27th, probably 1 more day last week of december, and jan. 2nd | 17:24 |
| JayF | I'm out 12/17 - 12/26 | 17:24 |
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| JayF | jroll: I wonder why we should even try to have the 12/19 meeting | 17:24 |
| JayF | jroll: why not cancel 12/19, 12/26 and 1/2 | 17:24 |
| jlvillal | I will be here the 19th | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | I'll be here Jan 2 btw | 17:24 |
| jlvillal | But agree with cancelling 112/26 and 1/2 | 17:24 |
| jroll | JayF: seems like at least a few people will be here 12/19 | 17:24 |
| rloo | there are at least 4 cores that will be here the 19th. | 17:24 |
| rloo | i think cancelling 3 meetings in a row is too much | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | I'm out only on 19th and 26th | 17:25 |
| * JayF just trying to save others from meetnigs, he won't be at a 12/19 meeting either way | 17:25 | |
| TheJulia | Lets just cancel the 26th, if we have super short meetings on the 19th and 2nd, then \o/ | 17:25 |
| sambetts | I'm out 12th -> 3rd | 17:25 |
| JayF | TheJulia: you don't get 1/2 off? | 17:25 |
| mariojv | +1 to keeping the 19th meeting. it'll probably be short though | 17:25 |
| jroll | okay, we could leave jan 2 if people like, can't hurt | 17:25 |
| JayF | TheJulia: most people in US should get 1/2 off as observation of NYD | 17:25 |
| jroll | will need someone to run it though :) | 17:25 |
| TheJulia | JayF: I dunno :) | 17:25 |
| rloo | think TheJulia can run them :) | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | jroll, I can run Jan 2 if needed.. though I'm not sure it's going to be useful | 17:25 |
| TheJulia | JayF: Holidays are weird for me since my significant other works for a bank. | 17:26 |
| jroll | dtantsur: it might be nice for the people that are around to sync up | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | jroll, ok, I can run it if I'm not too wasted that day | 17:26 |
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| jroll | heh | 17:26 |
| TheJulia | jroll: I think syncing up would be a good idea so we don't loose all velocity until mid janurary | 17:26 |
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| jroll | okay, we'll leave it | 17:27 |
| jroll | thanks y'all | 17:27 |
| rloo | that reminds me, we have < 2 months before ocata release | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | so, only 12/26 is out for everyone, right? | 17:27 |
| jroll | sounds like it | 17:27 |
| jroll | #topic RFE review | 17:28 |
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| jroll | rloo: take it away :) | 17:28 |
| rloo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1638505 | 17:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1638505 in Ironic "[RFE] Allow to not cache images on conductor for iPXE nodes in standalone mode" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Pavlo Shchelokovskyy (pshchelo) | 17:28 |
| rloo | should we require a spec for that? | 17:28 |
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| dtantsur | I thought we do have a spec, but maybe I'm wrong | 17:29 |
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| TheJulia | I'd personally like a little more context on that RFE. | 17:29 |
| jroll | I seem to remember a spec too, pas-ha isn't here | 17:29 |
| jroll | I would as well | 17:30 |
| jroll | let's ask for one and maybe there already is one :) | 17:30 |
| rloo | ok, let's ask for one. | 17:30 |
| rloo | next ... | 17:30 |
| rloo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1639688 | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | hmm, I thought about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392290/ | 17:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1639688 in Ironic "[RFE] Add "reset bios settings to default" to iRMC drivers as cleaning step" [Wishlist,New] | 17:30 |
| rpioso | Not sure if the scope is sufficent. What does "default" mean? Seems to me that the BIOS settings depend on the role/flavor. | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | rloo, I'm fine with that | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | rpioso, I think to factory defaults, but I may be wrong | 17:31 |
| jroll | I'm fine with it too, but rpioso has a good question | 17:31 |
| jroll | oh yes, probably | 17:31 |
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| JayF | I'm generally fine with any cleaning step added to a driver | 17:31 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: I don't feel that would be sufficient. | 17:31 |
| mariojv | i think that RFE needs to be expanded, though | 17:31 |
| JayF | as they would be the experts | 17:31 |
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| JayF | but I would like the RFE to mention if it's going to be a priority =0 or >0 | 17:31 |
| TheJulia | rloo: I'm also fine with it just being an RFE for a cleaning step. | 17:31 |
| rpioso | I vote for an RFE. I'm interested in helping with it. | 17:31 |
| rloo | so clarification in the rfe itself, no spec required. | 17:32 |
| JayF | +1 | 17:32 |
| rloo | we good with that then? | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | as usual, I vote for more drivers to support the same thing, but I'm fine with RFE | 17:33 |
| rloo | moving on... | 17:33 |
| rloo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1640546 | 17:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640546 in Ironic "[RFE] Sub-endpoints of ironic resources should be considered subcontrollers, not fields of the resource" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Vladyslav Drok (vdrok) | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | sounds like a refactoring/bug, not RFE | 17:33 |
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| jroll | this feels like another pecan bug to me | 17:33 |
| vdrok | hm, I don't remember making it an rfe :) | 17:33 |
| vdrok | oh yes, I did, sorry | 17:34 |
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| rloo | vdrok: i added 'rfe' cuz you tagged it as an rfe. | 17:34 |
| rloo | it is going to require a microversion bump | 17:34 |
| vdrok | yup | 17:34 |
| mariojv | that seems straightforward enough not to require a spec, even though it changes api behavior | 17:34 |
| rloo | i am fine if it is a bug. i can't remember if an rfe is needed for a microversion bump | 17:34 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: I agree re: more drivers to support BIOS thing. | 17:34 |
| jroll | I almost wonder if we should just leave it if we're going to want a microversion bump | 17:35 |
| jroll | I would argue like crazy against this behavior if it was new | 17:35 |
| jroll | but now that it's there I'm not sure I see a benefit in removing it | 17:35 |
| mariojv | maybe a microversion bump is warranted even though it's just changing error-like behavior.... in case clients rely on the 400 | 17:35 |
| JayF | I only want a microversion bump because it's a significant-enough change in behavior to break some clients imo | 17:35 |
| mariojv | +1 JayF | 17:35 |
| JayF | mariojv exactly | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | yes, if we do it, we need a version bump | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | the question is: should we? | 17:36 |
| jroll | I don't think we should, but could be convinced otherwise | 17:36 |
| mariojv | i think we should | 17:36 |
| mariojv | 400 is for syntax errors generally, right? | 17:36 |
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| sambetts | I'm +1 to fixing our API endpoints | 17:36 |
| rloo | does it matter either way? it is a bug so seems like we should fix it. | 17:37 |
| mariojv | #link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes#4xx_Client_Error | 17:37 |
| vdrok | the only inconvenience it brings is - some subendpoints return 404, some 400 | 17:37 |
| jroll | oh wait | 17:37 |
| rloo | just not a high priority thing though | 17:37 |
| mariojv | +1 to not high priority | 17:37 |
| jroll | is this only fixing the status code? | 17:37 |
| jroll | sorry, I thought this was also about making /nodes/foo/driver_info not succeed | 17:37 |
| vdrok | jroll: about removing possibility too :) | 17:37 |
| jroll | if this is only s/400/404/ I'm good with it | 17:38 |
| jroll | not good with the other bits | 17:38 |
| mariojv | oh, i did not know that vdrok | 17:38 |
| jroll | I don't see a real benefit to that | 17:38 |
| mariojv | i agree with jroll in that case. i just think the status code should change | 17:38 |
| vdrok | OK, I'll remove the last paragraph theb | 17:38 |
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| vdrok | then | 17:38 |
| jroll | well, remove part of it :) | 17:39 |
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| jroll | idk, what do other people think? | 17:39 |
| sambetts | jroll: its about fixing our REST api to be more consistent, how do you tell the difference between a subresource and a field on the node? e.g. nodes/node-0/ports vs /nodes/node-0/driver_info | 17:39 |
| sambetts | I'm personally +1 to only allowing subcontrollers/resources in the URL | 17:39 |
| * JayF does not have strong opinions on api semantics | 17:39 | |
| jroll | yeah, consistency is good | 17:40 |
| sambetts | fields should be accessed using GET /nodes/node-0?field= | 17:40 |
| * jroll waffles some more | 17:40 | |
| jroll | is that also a thing? | 17:40 |
| sambetts | fields* | 17:40 |
| sambetts | yeah | 17:40 |
| jroll | ಠ_ಠ| 17:40 |
| vdrok | yes, a list can be specified there too | 17:40 |
| jroll | oh right, that | 17:40 |
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| jroll | maybe it's fine, why not | 17:41 |
| vdrok | sambetts: different links returned in response? | 17:41 |
| * jroll is not decisive today | 17:41 | |
| vdrok | this way we can distinguish subresource or just a field | 17:41 |
| mariojv | in either case, neither of those should require a spec, right? | 17:41 |
| TheJulia | This seems more than something that can just be masked with a micro version... and to qariojv's point, it needs a spec. | 17:42 |
| mariojv | i think we were originally trying to decide spec / no spec | 17:42 |
| * sambetts wonders if we should include this sort of thing in the API reworking that devananda was working on and talked about at the summit | 17:42 | |
| TheJulia | sambetts: I'm kind of wondering the same | 17:42 |
| jroll | yeah, let's have a short spec on this | 17:42 |
| mariojv | TheJulia: so you think the removal of /node-0/<field> should require a spec, but status code should not? | 17:42 |
| sambetts | we should cover all the endpoints for nodes/ports/portgroups | 17:42 |
| mariojv | sambetts: +1, then it could be done all at once | 17:43 |
| jroll | this would just be adding to the list of api things to do | 17:43 |
| jroll | I'd also be fine with a 'fix all the subresource junk' spec | 17:43 |
| galyna1 | sambetts, +1 about API. It may touch etags | 17:43 |
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| TheJulia | mariojv: if we're starting to change the overall behavior of the api, I worry we would have to maintain backwards compatibility, which means we will just end up with quite a headache. | 17:43 |
| mariojv | yeah, if there are more changes than this required for subresource fixing, then a spec would be good | 17:43 |
| rloo | i don't see that it matters if it falls under the 'api reworking'. it still needs to be described and it looks to me that folks want a spec. | 17:44 |
| mariojv | TheJulia: oh, true... gotta leave in some code to respect the lower versions | 17:44 |
| jroll | rloo: +1 | 17:44 |
| rloo | are we good with asking for a spec? any nays? | 17:44 |
| TheJulia | no nay here. | 17:44 |
| jroll | yay from me | 17:44 |
| vdrok | OK, will bring rfe things back | 17:44 |
| jlvillal | sambetts: Yeah on the API reworking. It would be good to eliminate the overloading of fields/node_names. | 17:44 |
| NobodyCam | sounds like we want one | 17:44 |
| mariojv | yay, given there's additional work and we've been discussing for quite a while - RFEs should be easier to discuss | 17:45 |
| vdrok | thanks for the feedback | 17:45 |
| rloo | ok, a spec it is. thx! | 17:45 |
| rloo | and last but not least | 17:45 |
| rloo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1641857 | 17:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1641857 in Ironic "[RFE] Allow IPA to perform disk erase using thirdparty storage controller" [Wishlist,New] | 17:45 |
| rloo | JayF: will like this one | 17:45 |
| jroll | oh yes | 17:45 |
| JayF | I am not only not in favor of approving the RFE | 17:45 |
| mariojv | how is this not just a different priority clean step? | 17:46 |
| jroll | I agree with JayF's last comment on this | 17:46 |
| JayF | I am -2 to the feature being in-tree | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | I remember what JayF said when discussion this feature the other day, and I'm with him on it | 17:46 |
| rloo | did any of you get any good reasons for that rfe? | 17:46 |
| jroll | no | 17:46 |
| rloo | jroll: ok. then not approved. | 17:47 |
| mariojv | the concern is mainly proprietary tooling, right? | 17:47 |
| mariojv | i agree, should not be in-tree | 17:47 |
| JayF | Well it's basically two in-treee options for this, both are unsavory: | 17:47 |
| JayF | 1) Add $proprietary_tool to methods we use to detect block devices, so we can see the storage controller disks and wipe them | 17:48 |
| JayF | 2) add a new *upstream* cleaning step of "erase_controller_disks" or similar which would noop in Generic (not sensible -- why would we ship a noop step?) | 17:48 |
| * dtantsur does not get why an out-of-tree hardware manager cannot Just Do It (tm) | 17:48 | |
| JayF | 3) Add a 3rd party HWM step that can detect+erase these devices | 17:48 |
| mariojv | yeah, 3 sounds much better | 17:49 |
| JayF | #3 is the sanest solution, and doesn't require any in-tree work for IPA | 17:49 |
| mariojv | yup | 17:49 |
| mariojv | so, perhaps just reject and link to the meeting notes here | 17:49 |
| jroll | +1 reject | 17:49 |
| JayF | Is there anyone here who wants to fight for that RFE? So far we have two core votes to reject the RFE | 17:49 |
| JayF | make that 3 | 17:49 |
| jlvillal | I also vote for #3. | 17:49 |
| jlvillal | And also for reject of RFE. | 17:50 |
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| rloo | let's reject. they can come back if they have a good reason but so far, there doesn't seem to be one. | 17:50 |
| rloo | i'm done. thanks all. over to you jroll. | 17:50 |
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| jroll | thanks | 17:50 |
| jroll | #topic open discussion | 17:51 |
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| jroll | anything? | 17:51 |
| JayF | I do wanna send kudos to those folks who have been adding third party managers in-tree to IPA | 17:51 |
| rloo | (and yeah, i'll update the rfe's with what we discussed in this meeting) | 17:51 |
| JayF | we have one in-tree now and another up for review | 17:51 |
| xhku | yes | 17:51 |
| xhku | For testing the SNMP driver in CI, lindycoder and I have a change in progress https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388154/. | 17:51 |
| xhku | Once we land that, we will move the experimental gate (gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic-ipa-partition-pxe_snmp-tinyipa-ubuntu-xenial-nv) to a non-voting gate to be sure it's stable before making it voting. | 17:51 |
| xhku | Does everyone agree with the way it's done ? We would like to land this this week, if nobody disagree, to begin the un-deprecation of snmp driver. | 17:51 |
| jroll | yeah, it seems fine to me | 17:52 |
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| JayF | Should we, at this point, go ahead and un-deprecate teh snmp drive? | 17:52 |
| JayF | *driver? | 17:52 |
| JayF | Given CI is in progress | 17:52 |
| srobert | +1 :-) | 17:52 |
| JayF | or should we wait the few weeks until the CI is running? | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | xhku, I agree with vsaienk0's comment, but I do realize it may require non-trivial refactoring of our devstack scripts, so I'd just let this in | 17:52 |
| galyna1 | Btw, I d ask to review the spec for Etags https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381991/ | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | JayF, ++ for wait, we do have time before we start removing drivers | 17:52 |
| NobodyCam | JayF: I would say wait for CI | 17:52 |
| vdrok | yeah, having it as out of tree plugin would be good | 17:52 |
| mariojv | i vote to wait, otherwise something could break it before CI is merged | 17:53 |
| JayF | dtantsur: NobodyCam: the only reason I say we should maybe go ahead and do it | 17:53 |
| JayF | is there are a number of very minor SNMP patches that people want | 17:53 |
| JayF | i.e. support for new PDUs | 17:53 |
| rloo | JayF: I htink we have to +A https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388154/ first. and wait -- how long? | 17:53 |
| JayF | that wouldn't be tested in the gate anyway, but are blocked right now for, honestly at this point, probably no reason | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | JayF, we should not land patches before they're covered by CI, right? | 17:53 |
| JayF | In case of the SNMP driver, we do have some "mappings" of SNMP mibs to actions | 17:53 |
| NobodyCam | dtantsur: + | 17:53 |
| mariojv | JayF: those could still break SNMP in general, theoretically | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | I mean, I dunno if an innocent change may actually break the whole driver | 17:53 |
| JayF | that are for individual pieces of hardware | 17:54 |
| xhku | dtantsur: For now we did it the same way vbmc does, I agree it could be moved to virtualpdu project. We could do both at the same time in a separate patchset ? | 17:54 |
| JayF | that I don't think the virtualpdu testing would expose breakage for, unless somehow it magically breaks the whole driver which doesn't make sense | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | xhku, I suggest we land the change as it is, and then we think how to split this code cleanly | 17:54 |
| JayF | I'm just mainly tired of -2'ing small, non-dangerous patches just because "SNMP is deprecated" | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | JayF, I get your point.. but I also don't want to guess each time if the change may break something or not | 17:54 |
| mariojv | +1 dtantsur | 17:55 |
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| NobodyCam | How far off is the CI | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | I feel much safer when I see a green CI run | 17:55 |
| jroll | let's get non-voting CI and go from there | 17:55 |
| mariojv | NobodyCam: a few weeks | 17:55 |
| jroll | nah, I think we can get it this week or next if we review the patches xhku mentioned | 17:55 |
| lindycoder | NobodyCam, the job is already ready in experimental | 17:55 |
| mariojv | why don't we add xhku's patches to the priority ones listed in the etherpad? | 17:56 |
| mariojv | then we can be more optimistic about when it will be merged | 17:56 |
| * dtantsur just reviews the patch in question ~ now | 17:56 | |
| jroll | mariojv: it isn't a high priority, though, really :) | 17:56 |
| jroll | too much to do this cycle | 17:56 |
| mariojv | fair enough. i'll just add it to my review list | 17:57 |
| galyna1 | For the Etags, by the way, the patches- POC are up and need unittests, for now I am blocked by spec review :( | 17:57 |
| jroll | 2.5 minute time check btw | 17:57 |
| jroll | galyna1: awesome, that should be a fairly simple review | 17:57 |
| galyna1 | jroll, thanks :) | 17:58 |
| jroll | if there's nothing else, let's get one minute back :) | 17:58 |
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| NobodyCam | thank you everyone.. Great meeting! | 17:58 |
| jroll | thanks everyone | 17:58 |
| jroll | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
| mariojv | thanks! | 17:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 5 17:58:58 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-12-05-17.01.html | 17:59 |
| jlvillal | Woot! One extra minute. :) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-12-05-17.01.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-12-05-17.01.log.html | 17:59 |
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