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jroll | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 23 17:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jroll. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
jlvillal | o/ | 17:00 |
xek | o/ | 17:00 |
vdrok | o/ | 17:00 |
zhenguo | o/ | 17:00 |
joanna | o/ | 17:00 |
rloo | o/ | 17:00 |
jroll | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 17:00 |
dtantsur | o/ | 17:00 |
jroll | agenda is there ^^ | 17:00 |
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stendulker | o/ | 17:00 |
soliosg | o/ | 17:00 |
jroll | alllllright let's do this | 17:00 |
jroll | #topic announcements and reminders | 17:01 |
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jroll | crunch time! | 17:01 |
mjturek | o/ | 17:01 |
jroll | #info client freeze this week | 17:01 |
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bfournie | o/ | 17:01 |
jroll | #info soft feature freeze next week | 17:01 |
krtaylor | o/ | 17:01 |
hshiina | o/ | 17:01 |
mgoddard | o/ | 17:01 |
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aslezil | o/ | 17:01 |
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jroll | #info goal for final release is in two weeks | 17:01 |
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jroll | #info don't forget to add in things you want to discuss at the pike ptg: | 17:02 |
jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-pike-ptg | 17:02 |
xavierr | o/ | 17:02 |
jroll | #info ptl nomination week, if you want to be PTL for pike please nominate yourself | 17:02 |
yuriyz|2 | o/ | 17:02 |
jroll | #info we got portgroups and attach/detach stuff landed in nova | 17:02 |
jroll | nice work everyone on that one, it's been a ride \o/ | 17:03 |
jroll | I think that's it, anything I missed? | 17:03 |
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rloo | yay, congrats on getting those features, nova patches landed! | 17:03 |
rpioso | o/ | 17:03 |
rloo | (and I think we worked well with nova folks) | 17:03 |
jroll | ++ | 17:03 |
rloo | jroll: wrt client freeze this week -- which day? | 17:04 |
jroll | rloo: thursday is the absolute deadline, I'd prefer to release wednesday | 17:04 |
jroll | that goes for most openstack-y release deadlines | 17:04 |
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rloo | inspector client & ironic client, right? ok, will aim for wed. | 17:04 |
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jroll | yep | 17:05 |
jlvillal | nice! :) | 17:05 |
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jroll | I need to clarify IPA with doug, too, but I think we did that as a service last time | 17:05 |
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rloo | jroll: one more question about client. i saw some mention of thinking about deprecating ironic cli in future. if so, we should make sure we have full osc support. | 17:05 |
jroll | rloo: yeah, that would be part of the plan | 17:06 |
jroll | anything else? | 17:06 |
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rloo | jroll: ok, dtantsur brought up last week that we're missing at least two things in osc. i'll try to go through this week. | 17:06 |
jroll | rloo: okay, I don't think we need to rush that though | 17:07 |
* jroll moves on | 17:07 | |
jroll | #topic subteam status reports | 17:07 |
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jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:08 |
jroll | starts at line 66 | 17:08 |
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* jroll updates a couple things quickly | 17:08 | |
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rloo | vdrok, sambetts: wrt portgroups. are patches waiting for reviews, or still need to be created? I don't see any doc patches. | 17:09 |
vdrok | rloo: yeah, no docs yet. I think they will not be that big. will get to that this week | 17:09 |
rloo | dtantsur, wrt CI refactoring, there is more to do wrt refactoring, right? not just those two patches that got merged? | 17:10 |
rloo | vdrok: thx | 17:10 |
dtantsur | rloo, much more, I think | 17:10 |
dtantsur | we still haven't consolidated our jobs | 17:10 |
rloo | dtantsur: ok | 17:10 |
jroll | yeah, we never got into the CI refactors this cycle :( | 17:10 |
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dtantsur | Lucas is pushing forward UEFI testing, which is extremely important IMO | 17:10 |
rloo | dtantsur: and there's still more to do wrt UEFI testing? | 17:11 |
dtantsur | rloo, we don't have a UEFI job yet | 17:11 |
rloo | dtantsur: ok. am going to note that down. | 17:11 |
* jroll made some notes on nova + resource classes in the cross-project section, fyi | 17:11 | |
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jroll | soft power/reboot is looking good, nice! | 17:12 |
rloo | jroll: wrt rolling upgrades, did we decide to punt it to Pike? i'll update whiteboard with that. | 17:12 |
jroll | rloo: don't think we made an official decision, but that's how I'm leaning | 17:12 |
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zhenguo | hi, wrt node tags, would you plan to land it before the final release? | 17:13 |
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jroll | zhenguo: that would be cool, if we have time, maybe punting rolling upgrades makes some room for that | 17:14 |
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rloo | zhenguo: node tags has an API / client component? | 17:14 |
jroll | if not, I would like to get it in very early in pike | 17:14 |
zhenguo | rloo: yes, API | 17:14 |
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zhenguo | jroll: ok, and I will be on vacation soon | 17:15 |
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zhenguo | so maybe early in pike is ok | 17:15 |
rloo | zhenguo: when will you be away? | 17:15 |
zhenguo | rloo: it's Spring Festival! | 17:16 |
jroll | zhenguo: lucky you! :) | 17:16 |
zhenguo | jroll: thanks | 17:16 |
rloo | zhenguo: enjoy :) | 17:16 |
jroll | zhenguo: I'll see if we can get a review this week, then, might be enough | 17:16 |
zhenguo | rloo: thanks, I will be out of office in 2 days | 17:16 |
zhenguo | jroll: thanks | 17:17 |
jroll | zhenguo: np, thanks for the update :) | 17:17 |
rloo | jroll: when's the nova deadline for features? do you remember? this week? | 17:17 |
jroll | rloo: yep | 17:17 |
rloo | jroll: ok, so we're shooting for soft power off & soft reboot? | 17:18 |
jroll | so I think our priorities look roughly the same as last week, though I removed rolling upgrades until we decide if we're punting or not | 17:18 |
jroll | rloo: yeah, one has a +A already' | 17:18 |
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rloo | jroll: ok, i was looking at status, nmi won't make it in until pike. | 17:18 |
rloo | jroll: wrt resource classes. besides doc + testing, shouldn't need any code changes in ironic/ocata? | 17:19 |
jroll | rloo: agree re: nmi | 17:19 |
jroll | rloo: correct | 17:19 |
jroll | it's just metadata in ironic | 17:19 |
rloo | jroll: thx for confirming (both) :) | 17:20 |
jroll | :) | 17:20 |
jroll | is there anythign we should change/add in the priorities? I'm curious how much more BFV we want to do this cycle | 17:20 |
dtantsur | "nmi won't make it in until pike" why? | 17:20 |
jroll | and if we should get node tags or rescue mode up there in case folks run out of things to review :) | 17:20 |
rloo | jroll: i was just going to mention bfv. i think it is good to review but not a priority. | 17:20 |
rloo | dtantsur: need client release and nova patch. i think. | 17:20 |
jroll | if client merged, I can release that today | 17:21 |
rloo | dtantsur: nova freeze is this week | 17:21 |
mat128 | o/ | 17:21 |
dtantsur | yeah, nova patch is probably impossible, but our part can be finished | 17:21 |
jroll | idk how the nova thing is looking, but I feel like matt wanted to punt it to pike | 17:21 |
jroll | oh, we landed the client patch, yeah | 17:21 |
jroll | so we're done then right? :) | 17:21 |
rloo | dtantsur: i have no opinion either way on nmi. you guys decide. | 17:21 |
vdrok | ironic side looks pretty close yeah | 17:22 |
jroll | ah, osc | 17:22 |
rloo | according to status, looks like one osc patch | 17:22 |
TheJulia | jroll: I have some time tonight to work on BFM, but my week is largely travel + meetings this week, so I won't get much done on it | 17:22 |
dtantsur | yep, osc patch and api-ref. | 17:22 |
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TheJulia | err, BFV | 17:22 |
jroll | TheJulia: okay, I'll deprioritize | 17:23 |
jroll | should we be focusing on node tags or rescue mode or both, then? | 17:23 |
dtantsur | node tags - maybe, yeah. it's been a while | 17:23 |
dtantsur | dunno how rescue looks now | 17:23 |
dtantsur | again, we need a nova part, right? | 17:23 |
jroll | yep | 17:23 |
rloo | jroll: node tags has 2 patches outstanding and i suspect they are simple (but i haven't looked at them). i don't know about rescue -- anyone know? | 17:23 |
jroll | rescue is mostly done other than IPA side | 17:24 |
jroll | "done" meaning code is up and has had many iterations | 17:24 |
rloo | i think if there haven't been much reviews on rescue, i would punt to pike | 17:24 |
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JayF | It's our goal to have it working in devstack this week | 17:24 |
JayF | rescue | 17:24 |
JayF | all the ironic side stuff is pretty straightforward and done | 17:24 |
jroll | keep in mind that driver comp / rescue / node tags all have API version bumps, so be concious of merge conflicts please :) | 17:24 |
JayF | it's not been getting reviewed because it constantly needs rebasing | 17:24 |
* rloo recalls past releases where we tried to get features in at the last minute, and shudders | 17:24 | |
rloo | i think if we get driver composition done, we're lucky. am worried about pushing for more stuff this late. | 17:25 |
dtantsur | JayF, is there a nova patch for it? | 17:25 |
jroll | dtantsur: there is | 17:25 |
jroll | this is all on the whiteboard btw | 17:25 |
JayF | it's not likely to land in nova in pike | 17:25 |
jroll | in pike? | 17:25 |
jroll | why? | 17:25 |
JayF | er I mean | 17:25 |
JayF | until pike | 17:25 |
mat128 | before pike? | 17:25 |
jroll | lol, yeah | 17:25 |
JayF | but if we punt it in ironic to pike, I'm concerned it'd miss nova in pike as well | 17:25 |
JayF | it seems to work best if we have a full ironic release of a feature before trying to get it into nova | 17:26 |
rloo | JayF: nah, not if it gets into ironic pike early. | 17:26 |
jroll | this is true | 17:26 |
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rloo | JayF: rescue has an API component. client release is this week. | 17:26 |
jroll | idk, let's say if people have time, take a look and see how it feels | 17:26 |
dtantsur | too many client changes to land before Wed... | 17:26 |
rloo | dtantsur: ++ | 17:26 |
JayF | rloo: that's a really good point, about client changes needing to land. dangit :( | 17:26 |
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rloo | JayF: we are landing soft reboot, power off in both nova & ironic in ocata. | 17:27 |
jroll | I'm skeptical we'd finish rescue in a ~week anyway | 17:27 |
rloo | JayF: it can be done :) | 17:27 |
JayF | Yeah, that's fair. Can we make it something we work to land first thing in pike cycle? | 17:27 |
jroll | JayF: ++ | 17:27 |
rloo | JayF: along with bfv... | 17:27 |
jroll | and rolling upgrades | 17:27 |
rloo | JayF: and rolling upgrades... | 17:27 |
* jroll gets scared | 17:27 | |
dtantsur | it's up to a new PTL to make sure the priorities are set early and get worked on ;) | 17:27 |
jroll | :D | 17:27 |
rloo | and that ^^. heh. | 17:27 |
jroll | :P | 17:28 |
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* jroll thinks we're all pretty much on the same page and expects no surprises with pike priorities | 17:28 | |
rloo | although jroll can attest to how easy it is as ptl to have folks focus on priorities... | 17:28 |
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jroll | haaaaaaa. | 17:28 |
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TheJulia | heh | 17:28 |
jroll | alright, anything else for this bit of the meeting? | 17:28 |
rloo | so yeah, set priorities early. the rest... ??!! | 17:28 |
dtantsur | wait, aren't we going to make Ironic a proper CMDB finally? | 17:29 |
TheJulia | rloo: somewhere there is Profit..... | 17:29 |
jroll | /ban dtantsur | 17:29 |
* dtantsur runs away very quickly | 17:29 | |
TheJulia | dtantsur: z cycle maybe? | 17:29 |
rloo | dtantsur: add to ptg etherpad :D | 17:29 |
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* jroll still has a git repo named 'alanis' - a collection of all things ironic | 17:29 | |
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mat128|afk | lmao | 17:29 |
TheJulia | On a serious note, it might actually be worth discussing at the ptg | 17:29 |
jroll | alright, let's move on if there's nothing else | 17:30 |
jroll | TheJulia: quite possible | 17:30 |
jroll | #topic RFE review | 17:30 |
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jroll | so, Nisha_Agarwal asks me about 3 times a week to look at this RFE | 17:30 |
jroll | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1656863 | 17:30 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1656863 in Ironic "RFE : Enhance pxe_ilo to do inband inspection also" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Nisha Agarwal (agarwalnisha1980) | 17:30 |
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jroll | so I'd like to see if we can approve it here, so that I'm done staring at it | 17:31 |
vdrok | :D | 17:31 |
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jroll | it seems fine to me, although I'm skeptical if we need that config | 17:31 |
jroll | what do folks think? | 17:31 |
JayF | I mean, ilo driver has a pattern of making everything configurable | 17:31 |
JayF | I don't think it's too bad to offer that config | 17:31 |
JayF | That rfe seems very straightforward though | 17:32 |
TheJulia | It seems logical to approve given the context | 17:32 |
jroll | yeah, that's why I wanted to talk about it, I'm just not sure at all if we should have the config | 17:32 |
jroll | e.g. is it normal to only do OOB, or is it normal to do both, or? | 17:32 |
dtantsur | there is a spec for it fwiw | 17:32 |
jroll | I think I'm fine with it as-is but objections welcome | 17:32 |
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jroll | dtantsur: this one breaks pxe_ilo out of that spec, since it doesn't depends on a boot driver | 17:33 |
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jroll | boot driver in inspector* | 17:33 |
jroll | I told nisha that would be fine | 17:33 |
dtantsur | aha | 17:33 |
dtantsur | well, we already have (I think) oneview doing it | 17:33 |
dtantsur | should be fine | 17:34 |
jroll | ok cool, sounds like 4 +1s including myself | 17:34 |
* jroll approves | 17:34 | |
jroll | thanks y'all | 17:34 |
jroll | #topic open discussion | 17:34 |
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jroll | anyone have a thing? | 17:34 |
joanna | I have :) | 17:34 |
rloo | why restrict to only doing OOB? (but i haven't been paying attention so ignore me) | 17:34 |
jroll | rloo: one reason would be to avoid waiting for the agent to boot if not needed | 17:35 |
JayF | rloo: That's not explained in the RFE, but I assumed it was so deployers could maintain existing behavior (OOB-only) as desired | 17:35 |
jroll | (inband just gives extra inspection details, that one might not need) | 17:35 |
jroll | also that | 17:35 |
stendulker | stendulker: that saves a agent boot | 17:35 |
jroll | joanna: go ahead | 17:35 |
joanna | remember the discussion before the Holidays about status codes and Retry-After? | 17:35 |
joanna | I created a spec for that: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414194/ | 17:35 |
TheJulia | I think the restriction is more a product detail than anything else | 17:35 |
stendulker | yes to maintain backward compatibility as well | 17:36 |
jroll | joanna: nice, dtantsur and lucas will be interested ^^ | 17:36 |
rloo | it just seems odd to have an oob_inspection_only config. vs a config that allows you to specify oob and/or inband. | 17:36 |
jroll | probably sambetts too | 17:36 |
joanna | and there are opinions that status codes shouldn't be changed not to introduce such a big incompatibility between API versions | 17:36 |
dtantsur | I will get to the specs when we finish landing Ocata features, I guess ;) | 17:36 |
jroll | dtantsur: +1000 | 17:36 |
* jroll thinks we should only prioritize specs and almost-done-features for the first few weeks of pike | 17:37 | |
joanna | and I would be really grateful if we could agree on how this change should look like :) | 17:37 |
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TheJulia | rloo: Thinking about it, once driver comp is in, it doesn't _really_ make sense to have that config because there could just be an interface that goes "why not both?" | 17:37 |
joanna | I understand it's not a priority now, I just don't want this topic to die :) | 17:37 |
rloo | TheJulia: yeah, i was wondering how it fit with driver comp too | 17:37 |
jroll | joanna: ++ | 17:37 |
stendulker | rloo: makes sense. Will work on that suggestion | 17:38 |
joanna | jroll: thanks! :) | 17:38 |
* rloo votes for a PTL that promises to go through all the specs. ha ha. | 17:38 | |
rloo | stendulker: thx for looking into it | 17:38 |
* jroll will never promise that, not enough brainpower in the world | 17:38 | |
TheJulia | rloo: All the specs! \o/ | 17:38 |
jroll | stendulker: should I wait to approve that yet, then? | 17:38 |
TheJulia | joanna: Adding it to my queue | 17:38 |
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jroll | ok | 17:39 |
joanna | TheJulia: awesome, thanks | 17:39 |
jroll | anything else? | 17:39 |
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vdrok | jroll: rloo not sure how driver compostion would affect that tho, you still have a single inspect_interface column. To be able to disable in-band, you need a config option, or a separate interface, which would duplicate most of the stuff? | 17:40 |
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TheJulia | vdrok: or a separate inspection interface that is aware of multiple options and that enumerates through them | 17:41 |
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jroll | vdrok: yeah, dunno | 17:41 |
JayF | vdrok: you'd have like, 3 interfaces supported in ilo hardware type: IB only, OOB only, IB+OOB | 17:41 |
rloo | vdrok: and/or general configs, not specific to ilo. | 17:41 |
JayF | vdrok: as opposed to yet another ilo config option | 17:41 |
rloo | oh, i like JayF's suggestion | 17:41 |
JayF | jroll: ^ in light of this discussion, I'm not as +1 on that ilo rfe again | 17:41 |
jroll | lol | 17:41 |
TheJulia | JayF: +1 to that suggestion | 17:42 |
jroll | yeah stendulker said he wanted to investigate more, too | 17:42 |
jroll | can y'all comment on the rfe then? | 17:42 |
* jroll moves back to unapproved | 17:42 | |
vdrok | JayF: IB is already there, just inspector, it seems to be the matter of doing IB+OOB and OOB separately or together | 17:43 |
JayF | vdrok: exactly | 17:43 |
jroll | yep | 17:43 |
jroll | let's take this conversation to the RFE | 17:43 |
jroll | and then everyone gets a free 15 minutes | 17:43 |
TheJulia | ++ | 17:43 |
vdrok | yup, thanks everyone! | 17:43 |
rloo | ah, the sound of crickets... | 17:43 |
TheJulia | \o/ | 17:43 |
jroll | thanks folks | 17:43 |
jroll | #endmeeting | 17:43 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 23 17:43:53 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:43 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-01-23-17.00.html | 17:43 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-01-23-17.00.txt | 17:43 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-01-23-17.00.log.html | 17:43 |
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stendulker | jroll: Got disconnected. Have updated RFE to have config variable as "hardware_inspection_type" with possible values as 'oob' and 'inband'. | 17:46 |
stendulker | jroll: RFE https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1656863 | 17:46 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1656863 in Ironic "RFE : Enhance pxe_ilo to do inband inspection also" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Nisha Agarwal (agarwalnisha1980) | 17:46 |
jroll | stendulker: okay, you missed some conversation, watch for discussion in that rfe | 17:46 |
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